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This is Lively Lady, Mull 30 - a strip planked 30' speedster sailing under the Golden Gate. She was designed and built in 1967 as a special Mull prototype that changed boat design.

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Sorry, but I'm going to carpet-bomb this thread:

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The January Three-Bridge Fiasco race. When I pulled the spinnaker out of the bag I discovered that a mouse had turned parts of the sail into a nest. So, we switched over to the telescoping whisker pole and went wing-and-wing.

 

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At the start of the 2008 Pacific Cup

 

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During the Crewed Farallones Race. We were pushing a lot of water! Notice our secret weapon on the stern rail -- fire up that outboard and the propeller turns us into an airplane!

 

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On the way home from Hawaii in heavy tradewinds. Photo taken by a friend in a big grey Orion P3.

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J35. Two left pictures Winter Vashon Race. North end of Vashon Island. Dec 2013. Air temp mid 20's.

Right picture, Winter Vashon Race 2016, run up Colvos Pass, 25 knots of wind.

 

 

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Depue Memorial race. Port Madison. 25 knots northerly. Feb 2015.

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Last night, after removing half a foot of snow - the mighty Cal 20 (and classic sea foam-coloured Sportyak)is ready to go!

 

If all goes according to plan, she'll be the smallest boat ever to winter over in the Northwest Passage. :-)

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Great idea. I will have to get to work.

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1981 Sonoma 30 - by Carl Schumacher, the crew aboard on the way to winning one of the last Pearl Harbor return races held, back in '99 or so - you can't sail past the Arizona Memorial anymore because of the new bridge and security, but we kicked ass that weekend.

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We're on the right, this is start of Round the County on Sunday (photo by Dennis Pearce)

 

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Upwind, Sunday, Round the County 2016 (photo by Dennis Pearce)

 

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First photo of our boat sailing with us on it, near Lopez Head, San Juan Islands (photo by Tom A)

 

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Coming back from Cow Bay 2016, photo by me

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Light air..Fusion in the Big Lap charity race heading for the finish. July 2016. This is our eternal crew shot, could be anybody!

 

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Medium air..Hamilton Island, August 2016. Props to Andrea Francolini for the photo. Coming up to the windward mark.

 

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Those are gorgeous photos of a dream boat, Shaggy.

 

I'm going to wait until Dylan posts his. :(

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The mother ship:

 

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And SWMBO's ride. Sails had just been raised, and she was still sorting the topping lift and clearing the O/B. Nobody ever seems to capture a photo of us being elegant, carefree sailors with perfect trim and all gear squared away. :

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What a light touch on the tiller! I love boats that allow that. Sweet.

FRANCIS loves Bob.

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winning the race with a blown up main (tacking at the finish line)

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the pics from non rip, to small tear to a wee bit bigger to full blown destruction were epic. The whole time we held the lead and all I hoped was we kept it until the finish

 

here's a good close up

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me in cruising mode (roller furler , dodger) heading out for my annual 3 week sojourn to somewhere

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In Maine before launch.

 

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HEY! I'm not the only hinckley owner here. cool beans. what model are you guys sailing?

 

anyhow here's my 1973 hinckley 38 sirocco.

in the midst of her refit last year.

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me repainting her talaria emblems.

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hell of a lot better than how she looked when I first bought her.

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Great thread! Here are some pics of my Tanzer 26 Dark Star from our cruise to Les Cheneaux islands over the summer

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Lioness is a 1962 "Bermuda 40 Classic Yawl". Hull 24/203

3 of us, very cool. I'd actually love to get my boat on the line with a bermuda 40, I'm curious which is quicker

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Overtrimmed, and forcing some heel, as we cross the finish... RC loves us :) super light air that day. Yep my ancient S2 7.9... which is mine no longer... I made my mark with the boat, but it was time for something else.

 

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A friends boat, not mine and not sailing sorry, but I like Laurie Davidson designs. :)

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A friends boat, not mine and not sailing sorry, but I like Laurie Davidson designs. :)

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I like Laurie, he is a very nice guy! (Especially when he says nice things about my boat! Which is what he was doing in this photo of him in Bob's office.)

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G'day JJ, Yep that's the one! It's a steal at that price, almost shameful.

 

 

A friends boat, not mine and not sailing sorry, but I like Laurie Davidson designs. :)

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I like Laurie, he is a very nice guy! (Especially when he says nice things about my boat! Which is what he was doing in this photo of him in Bob's office.)

 

 

Swoon...star struck. He said that because your boat is beautiful Kimbottles.

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Ok, I'll play. It is always hard to get pictures of your boat sailing. That's why I'm getting a drone. A couple of these aren't bad, taken by others.

 

On the Bras d'Or, Nova Scotia 2010:

 

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On the Connecticut river 2011, trying to keep the spinnaker full for the picture in about 3 knots true:

 

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On Puget Sound (I think Alex took this one? or maybe Steve?) 2015:

 

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Lake Ontario drifting conditions, 2009 "as if it were a painted ship, upon a painted ocean":

 

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Found this on Facebook this evening, I don't know the guy who took/posted it, but sure is a nice shot!

 

Thanks Dan Tedrow whoever you are!

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My friend Don, of Cowmaran fame, sailing my Adventure Island yesterday in the creek behind our house.

 

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I've owned, or been owned by, a few boats but can only find one shot of actual sailing.

 

A Hunter I owned several years ago on Dillon headed toward Frisco Colorado.

 

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I've owned, or been owned by, a few boats but can only find one shot of actual sailing.

 

A Hunter I owned several years ago on Dillon headed toward Frisco Colorado.

 

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Nice, I will always hold that as of the most beautiful places I've ever sailed, and craziest.

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In Maine before launch.

 

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HEY! I'm not the only hinckley owner here. cool beans. what model are you guys sailing?

 

2005 Sou'wester 42.

 

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crappy shot of me sailing our boat:

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better shot of our boat c.1950 - original owner at tiller

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with new dress on

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The mighty Bandaloop sailing across FL Bay this spring.

Lovely boat. Is she a Goat Island Skiff?

 

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This is all I have,... I just happened to be in the right place at the right time that a pro was shooting.

 

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My sailing shots are from onboard.

 

These days with new sails. Our boat is Alden's first fiberglass hull and deck. With it's wooden cabin, it's a nice photo prop for the lens.

 

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In Maine before launch.

 

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HEY! I'm not the only hinckley owner here. cool beans. what model are you guys sailing?

 

2005 Sou'wester 42.

 

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beautiful, it's interesting, the cabin trunks of your boat and mine look very much the same, is this also an S&S design?

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Unfortunately I no longer own this boat, but had a quite a nice decade with it up until last spring. Santana 23 (the version with the daggerboard and most of the ballast molded into the hull) #130 has now retired to a calm lake. This pic was coming in from a race where the wind built to 30+ then fortunately started dropping.

 

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Proof that I have no dignity: sailing an AMF Puffer. Actually it's quite a nice little boat if you invest some time (and a small amount of epoxy & new-ish gear) in it. It's good for singlehanding, roomy enough for two, plus a couple of beers, and if you're not going more than a mile from the dock anyway, it's easy to paddle home.

 

Nice thread, thanks everyone

 

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Panope is such a cool vessel, comfortable too!! I always like it when Steve invites me to an anchor testing session.

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Thanks Kim. With a little luck, we can resume testing this coming spring. Maybe even raise a sail.

 

Steve

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I wasn't going to post this, but Kris Kringle started it -- blame him!

 

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Yes, right place, right time, pro photographer looking for shots happened to see us. We were heading offshore for an overnight shakedown prior to the 2008 Pacific Cup. That's me up towards the bow, messing with a sheet or something.

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Port Townsend.

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I love gaff rigs

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I don't have any pro helicopter shots but here's a view of the isthmus on Catalina Island, taken from the helm of my Cal 29 Happy Hour.

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Thanks Kim. With a little luck, we can resume testing this coming spring. Maybe even raise a sail.

Steve

Or just use my Shamrock with her new engine.......

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I wasn't going to post this, but Kris Kringle started it -- blame him!

 

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Yes, right place, right time, pro photographer looking for shots happened to see us. We were heading offshore for an overnight shakedown prior to the 2008 Pacific Cup. That's me up towards the bow, messing with a sheet or something.

Great picture!!

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We have three Rangers, a 23, 28 and 33. Single handing our Ranger 23 in the Foulweather Bluff Race - Cliff Estes photo

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Single handing our Ranger 28 in a CYC Edmonds Frostbite Series on a warm day. - Photo credit - Sucia from here on SA photo

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Our Ranger 33 the day she was gifted to us. Still haven't taken a pic of her under sail. Someday I will.

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Breezy downwinder in the 33.

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I wasn't going to post this, but Kris Kringle started it -- blame him!

 

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Yes, right place, right time, pro photographer looking for shots happened to see us. We were heading offshore for an overnight shakedown prior to the 2008 Pacific Cup. That's me up towards the bow, messing with a sheet or something.

Nice shot! Did you get a free magazine? I had to buy the calendar,...

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This was taken before I owned Fred Again - believe it is a Leutwiler photo taken during one of the Swiftsure short courses.

 

Custom Kirby Quarter Pounder.

 

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My old boat when it was my dad's, complete with 1970's reacher. That's me in the yellow PFD,

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The same boat when I owned it with my wife and I out on a winter day,

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The new boat, a brokerage photo since I do not have an image of it under sail since we purchased it,

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In Maine before launch.

 

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HEY! I'm not the only hinckley owner here. cool beans. what model are you guys sailing?

 

2005 Sou'wester 42.

 

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beautiful, it's interesting, the cabin trunks of your boat and mine look very much the same, is this also an S&S design?

 

 

This is a very cool thread. The Hinckley SW 42 was the first boat I dreamed about as a kid. It's still one of my favorite designs.

 

I'm pretty sure my boat is a bit smaller than average.

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a few years ago now..

 

 

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Too slow to edit/ add anything. We're all so used to drone pics now we forget how hard it was to get a good aerial photo.That's our new old boat ( for the last 8 years or so). Riada, Laurie Davidson design 1974. Photo taken from the police helicopter in about 08 or so , Coastal Classic.

 

Paul Gilbert took this one with all the cool light... Looks like the CC in 12.

 

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This is our old old boat ( first 25 years) Waione , 1907 Bailey.The photo was taken by Terry Fong AFA photography in 2000. It was a 40 knot day and they were up in a small Robinson, pilot a Vietnam vet. I know it because I asked the question ' what the heck were you doing up in that on a day like that?'

 

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We got a cover once too.

 

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So on a smaller scale, I bought a Victoria class RC yacht at Goodwill a few years ago. I finally got it tricked out and sailing a couple weeks ago.

 

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Victoria's are platic 31 inch yachts. There is a fairly active association and lots of go fast ideas online.

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So a friend came forward and said that she had two more Victorias and a Northwind 36 also still in the box. So now the kitchen shipyard is working overtime.

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Nice shot! Did you get a free magazine? I had to buy the calendar,...

No, I ended up buying about a dozen of the magazines. I was going to frame that cover, but never got around to it. I think I still have some of the magazines somewhere...

 

This is a great thread, especially now that it's cold and raining (or snowing). There are a lot of beautiful boats here!

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That Ranger 33 has a really nice look to her.

 

She's a keeper. The boat saw very little use through all three previous owners and hardly sailed at all. Step below and she's like a brand new boat. Only two small gelcoat crazing cracks on the deck, one in the cockpit(where the prevoius 300 lb owner always first stepped aboard) the other next to the port lowers chainplate. The previous owner to the last, had the Atomic 4 longblocked at 800 hrs (I have the receipts), for no reason other then he thought an engine that old should need rebuilding. The engine had 100 hrs since the rebuild for a total of 900 hrs on it when we got it and now has 987 hrs.

 

The owner we acquired it from had a new heat exchanger and reservoir installed, however they forgot to fill the exchanger with anti-freeze. The owner started her up, she started to overheat and shut her down. He checked the reservoir and heat exchanger and found neither had anti-freeze, and thought the head had cracked. First thing I did was pull the dip stick, it had clean oil with no sign of water. We filled the heat exchanger and the reservoir 1/4 full, charged the batteries, but wouldn't start. So took the carb off, disassembled it, cleaned it thoroughly and reassembled it. My son and I then installed new plugs and plug wires, coil wire, a new coil, new points, condensor, rotor and cap, new fuel filter, new choke cable, new impellers in the water pump and the secondary pump - crossed our fingers and she started right up. Ran it for a while, inspecting everything and has run like a top since.

 

I could show pics of all our previos boats, including two more Rangers, a Columbia 38, a CT 41 and others. However there was only one boat, I bought in '77, I regretted selling to a friend in the 80s. It was the last and 35th Gig Harbor T-Bird built by Ed Hoppen's boatbuilding crew, Herb Schuey and Phil Manley, for his son at Eddon Boat Company.

 

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Right after I machine sewed reef points in the mainsail, and hand sewed the rings in.

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My two eldest children Kristy, Jason and I waiting for the flood after a bottom scrub the fall of '77. The next summer I built a new high aspect class legal rudder, and installed it. Earlier the summer of '77, I had repainted the topside white, from international orange, but had yet to paint the name and homeport.

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Nice shot! Did you get a free magazine? I had to buy the calendar,...

No, I ended up buying about a dozen of the magazines. I was going to frame that cover, but never got around to it. I think I still have some of the magazines somewhere...

 

This is a great thread, especially now that it's cold and raining (or snowing). There are a lot of beautiful boats here!

 

Wanna see my picture on the cover...

Wanna buy five copies for my mother....

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The T-bird is a great looking boat. It kind of bridges the aesthetic between power and sail and would good in either form.

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Nice shot! Did you get a free magazine? I had to buy the calendar,...

No, I ended up buying about a dozen of the magazines. I was going to frame that cover, but never got around to it. I think I still have some of the magazines somewhere...

 

This is a great thread, especially now that it's cold and raining (or snowing). There are a lot of beautiful boats here!

 

Wanna see my picture on the cover...

Wanna buy five copies for my mother....

 

Yep.

 

I saw those guys at Winterland way back when. Dr. Hook, Doobies, and headlining: The Steve Miller Band. Not a bad show at all! [March 16/17, 1973 -- searched, and found a list of shows: http://www.chickenonaunicycle.com/Winterland%20Shows.htm ]

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This is a very cool thread. The Hinckley SW 42 was the first boat I dreamed about as a kid. It's still one of my favorite designs.

 

I'm pretty sure my boat is a bit smaller than average.

 

 

Hey I've seen you sail that boat!

 

Me too, Will, though it was the Bermuda 40 for me. Sou'wester 42 is kind of the "new" version. Only boat I've ever owned, wanted, probably I'll ever have.

 

 

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Nice shot! Did you get a free magazine? I had to buy the calendar,...

No, I ended up buying about a dozen of the magazines. I was going to frame that cover, but never got around to it. I think I still have some of the magazines somewhere...

 

This is a great thread, especially now that it's cold and raining (or snowing). There are a lot of beautiful boats here!

 

 

Snowing here.

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More of VALIS at sea:

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Taken halfway to Hawaii, from SWAZIK (Swan 45), using an iPhone and binoculars.

 

 

Here's a video (I hope) taken from Brainwaves (J-35), as we were drifting about for a couple of days just beyond the Farallones:

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Our first boat in the family was my dad'sT-Bird. His had a small pate in the cockpit that that said made in japan. I assume that tidal grid was at Shilshole, the same place my dad would scrape the bottom and try to get it painted before the water came in back when nobody cared about all the crap and old paint you scraped into the sound. Thanks for sharing that photo.

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This was my previous boat, someone abandoned some big live-aboard thing out in the basin:

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Current tub (with old sails):

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Our first boat in the family was my dad'sT-Bird. His had a small pate in the cockpit that that said made in japan. I assume that tidal grid was at Shilshole, the same place my dad would scrape the bottom and try to get it painted before the water came in back when nobody cared about all the crap and old paint you scraped into the sound. Thanks for sharing that photo.

 

 

Your welcome! There were a few Japanese built T-Birds in the NW back in the day. They had a build plaque either in the cockpit or in the cabin. There was a professional built Japanese built T-Bird in the Port of Poulsbo, that sailed over from Japan on her own bottom. I checked it out when looking at T-Birds to buy in '76, it was very well built, but the owner wanted twice what 60s woodies were going for in the NW at the time.

 

That's the grid at the Port of Kingston. You were allowed could scrub your bottom, before painting, but no scrapping or sanding off paint was allowed. Those rules were strictly enforced by Dick Hill the harbor master. The boat had to be hauled out for any scrapping and sanding. It's possible some may have scrapped and sanded after hours, but I never witnessed such activities, nor ever saw telltale signs of scrapped off paint. The Port changed the rules when ablative paints became common, which banned scrubbing or painting on the grid. Then the grid was only used for inspection and changing zincs.

 

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A winter sail with close friend who I regularly sailed with since my childhood at the helm. - while I roll a fattie.

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My old boat, Oday 240. Taken from bridge over Adams Creek, near Beaufort, NC, after 2 month trip up ICW from Florida Keys.

 

...Yes, that is a mainsail from a Lightning LOL. I had just finished university and had 6 months between graduating and starting my real job... so I had pretty much NO money. :)

 

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My one of my many currently owned 'boats'. Funny, this one seems to be so much cheaper and easier to maintain and store... :D It's also light years faster than the Oday:

 

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So on a smaller scale, I bought a Victoria class RC yacht at Goodwill a few years ago. I finally got it tricked out and sailing a couple weeks ago.

 

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Victoria's are platic 31 inch yachts. There is a fairly active association and lots of go fast ideas online.

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So a friend came forward and said that she had two more Victorias and a Northwind 36 also still in the box. So now the kitchen shipyard is working overtime.

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I wandered into a hobby shop about 20 years ago and bought a Kyosho Fairwind. The old electronics died and a couple of years ago I replaced them.

 

No one else sails one around here. Apparently, I have to get a Soling if I want to race with the cool kids.

 

So I use mine for things like harassing otters.

 

 

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The T-bird is a great looking boat. It kind of bridges the aesthetic between power and sail and would good in either form.

 

 

I'vr never heard that before. It's a great sailboat in all of it's forms.

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Circa 1975 old wooden cat

GBE....Timeless :), and still plenty quick enough.

 

To keep with the multihull theme:

 

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Tell us more! She's not the ancient Aeolus is she?

 

How do you get on with that big staysail? Do you have permanently rigged outside sheets for when you crack off?

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Tell us more! She's not the ancient Aeolus is she?

How do you get on with that big staysail? Do you have permanently rigged outside sheets for when you crack off?

 

Hi she is a Heard28 built to my spec launched in 2002. Glass hull, the rest teak. Same as the working boats on the Fal in Cornwall...they dredge for oysters under sail, no motors allowed.

The big staysail needs lazy sheets for use outside of the shrouds. I now use a smaller staysail and the boat sails just as well as before.

The photos were taken by Classic Boat Magazine in 2004, it was blowing hard but we kept full sail for the photos.

Here she is in calmer times but still with the larger staysail.

https://youtu.be/wH237vYgBw4

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Gaffer, the bowsprit is way too short. :D

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Want a shorter bowsprit? ;-)

 

Here is us in the 1000 Islands a couple of years ago.

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...and a few days later in lake Ontario

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The T-bird is a great looking boat. It kind of bridges the aesthetic between power and sail and would good in either form.

 

Say what! :huh:

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Sorry, not enough sleep. That should've said "look good".

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