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Military Base Loses Funding for New School to Trump’s Border Wall

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For almost two decades, families at Fort Campbell, the sprawling Army base along the Kentucky-Tennessee border, have borne the brunt of the country’s war efforts as a steady clip of troops with the 101st Airborne Division and from Special Operations units deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq.

This week, the families discovered that they would not get the new middle school they were expecting so that President Trump could build his border wall. The school is on the list of 127 projects, touching nearly every facet of American military life, that will be suspended to shift $3.6 billion to the wall.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/us/trump-border-wall-military-families.html

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3 hours ago, Mid said:

Military Base Loses Funding for New School to Trump’s Border Wall

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/us/trump-border-wall-military-families.html

So the children of Service men and women will pay for the wall.

The Pentagon’s decision to divert $62.6 million from the construction of Fort Campbell’s middle school means that 552 students in sixth, seventh and eighth grades will continue to cram themselves in, 30 to a classroom in some cases, at the base’s aging Mahaffey Middle School. Teachers at Mahaffey will continue to use mobile carts to store their books, lesson plans and homework assignments because there is not enough classroom space. Students stuffed into makeshift classrooms-within-classrooms will continue to strain to figure out which lesson to listen to and which one to filter out.

Asked on the CBS program “Face the Nation” in February about the prospect that the Fort Campbell middle school could be sacrificed for the border wall, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said the border came before education. “It’s better for the middle school kids in Kentucky to have a secure border,” Mr. Graham said. “We’ll get them the school they need, but right now we’ve got a national emergency on our hands.”

Gotta love a Republican.

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"It's really virtually impenetrable," "20 mountain climbers could not climb this wall" This is the one that was hardest to climb" This wall cannot be climbed" Donald Trump

 

Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump's border wall

 
Source: WaPo

SAN DIEGO — Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage.

The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in a matter of minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques.

After cutting through the base of a single bollard, smugglers can push the steel out of the way, allowing an adult to fit through the gap. Because the bollards are so tall — and are attached only to a panel at the very top — their length makes them easier to push aside once they have been cut and are left dangling, according to engineers consulted by The Washington Post.

The taxpayer-funded barrier — so far coming with a $10 billion price tag — was a central theme of Trump’s 2016 campaign, and he has made the project a physical symbol of his presidency, touting its construction progress in speeches, ads and tweets. Trump has increasingly boasted to crowds in recent weeks about the superlative properties of the barrier, calling it “virtually impenetrable” and likening the structure to a “Rolls-Royce” that border-crossers cannot get over, under or through.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html

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34 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

"It's really virtually impenetrable," "20 mountain climbers could not climb this wall" This is the one that was hardest to climb" This wall cannot be climbed" Donald Trump

 

Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump's border wall

 
Source: WaPo

SAN DIEGO — Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage.

The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in a matter of minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques.

After cutting through the base of a single bollard, smugglers can push the steel out of the way, allowing an adult to fit through the gap. Because the bollards are so tall — and are attached only to a panel at the very top — their length makes them easier to push aside once they have been cut and are left dangling, according to engineers consulted by The Washington Post.

The taxpayer-funded barrier — so far coming with a $10 billion price tag — was a central theme of Trump’s 2016 campaign, and he has made the project a physical symbol of his presidency, touting its construction progress in speeches, ads and tweets. Trump has increasingly boasted to crowds in recent weeks about the superlative properties of the barrier, calling it “virtually impenetrable” and likening the structure to a “Rolls-Royce” that border-crossers cannot get over, under or through.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html

I’m shocked!

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The wall has been breached in just about every way that Trump said was impossible.  This would be pretty funny if it wasn't such a waste of tax dollars and if the people supporting Trump didn't still believe every word that comes out of his Putin cock holster.

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4 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

I’m shocked!

Not me, this must be in the art of the deal. Trump gets someone to build an impenetrable wall, then when it is compromised, Trump sues, receives the cost of building it back, and the company becomes a pariah forever. Trump wins, the American people only care that he got the money back.

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39 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

I’m shocked!

I’m shocked that Trump is so dumb as to use Rolls Royce and an example of something “virtually impenetrable.”  But on further reflection I guess I’m not shocked or even surprised.

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^Doing a little Xmas shopping for my Latin friends...

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On 3/20/2019 at 12:05 PM, MR.CLEAN said:
On 3/20/2019 at 11:56 AM, Dog said:

The ones I looked at said most drugs come through points of entry.

which ones

Well, not the Points of Exit ones.

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Texas judge orders border wall fundraiser not to build

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State District Judge Keno Vasquez on Tuesday issued a temporary restraining order against We Build the Wall, which raised $25 million after promising to build its own private barrier. Vasquez set a Dec. 17 hearing for We Build the Wall and its founder, Brian Kolfage, to appear in court in the South Texas city of Edinburg.

https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/texas-judge-orders-border-wall-fundraiser-not-to-build?fbclid=IwAR3sWIZKr3fROqfJpmsQSmmXHJ6Na99FC9vFERAeTPIhLiVcqMlM1EhJO7o

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4 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

So much winning.  Anyone else getting tired of it?

Federal Court Rules Trump Border Wall Illegal

I'm not illegal!  You're illegal!

Though I'm supportive as usual when corporations like the Sierra Club and ACLU exercise their first amendment right to expre$$ themselves by filing lawsuits, the headline is Fake News, as their first paragraph shows.

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A federal court today ruled that President Trump’s use of emergency powers to divert $3.6 billion in military construction funds for the border wall is unlawful. The ruling came in a lawsuit, Sierra Club v. Trump, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of the Sierra Club and Southern Border Communities Coalition.

The wall isn't illegal, it's the Power of PANIC that is illegal, which is why I posted about it in the relevant thread.

In that thread, readers might also learn that

On 12/13/2019 at 5:52 AM, Plenipotentiary Tom said:
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the judge's order doesn't prohibit the administration from using up to $2.5 billion in Department of Defense funding originally earmarked to support counter-drug activities.

 

It looks like the Power of Drug War PANIC remains unrestrained.

So it was only sorta good news, since only some of the Power of PANIC was restrained. Also, guns.

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27 minutes ago, BravoBravo said:

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Yes, that's called "projection". Also called "demonstrably bullshit".

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4 hours ago, Ishmael said:
4 hours ago, BravoBravo said:

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Yes, that's called "projection". Also called "demonstrably bullshit".

You do realize you are engaging with a guy who doesn't know the definition of "Satire", right?

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2 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

You do realize you are engaging with a guy who doesn't know the definition of "Satire", right?

Sure he knows what a satire is.

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A wall won't help.   Chinese illegals arrive in style.  

MIAMI — Dozens of Chinese nationals without proper papers have been smuggled from the Bahamas to South Florida by operators of luxury yachts who are charging them thousands of dollars each for the short Atlantic journey, according to federal criminal cases.

 

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22 hours ago, Lark said:

A wall won't help.   Chinese illegals arrive in style.  

MIAMI — Dozens of Chinese nationals without proper papers have been smuggled from the Bahamas to South Florida by operators of luxury yachts who are charging them thousands of dollars each for the short Atlantic journey, according to federal criminal cases.

 

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Those are "luxury yachts"?.... They look like Clorox bottles with sunglasses on.

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25 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Those are "luxury yachts"?.... They look like Clorox bottles with sunglasses on.

As is often the case, the article's author is ignorant.   He clearly doesn't know the thrill of watching a large rapidly approaching bow wave to make sure there is no danger of collision, followed by the brief thrill of bouncing around trying to keep the boom to leeward while watching one's sails repeatedly collapse.   I have a second amendment right to a acoustic homing torpedoes.    

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24 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Blow me down. 
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/480608-portion-of-newly-built-wall-on-mexico-border-collapses

 

That’s good work their boys. Trump Builders at it again. 

When you hire the best......

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53 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Blow me down. 
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/480608-portion-of-newly-built-wall-on-mexico-border-collapses

 

That’s good work their boys. Trump Builders at it again. 

Record numbers of people are reported crossing the border—-from Texas to Mexico.  :lol:

Mexican building contractor says he could have built the wall in less time for less money and it would not have fallen over.

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1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Blow me down. 
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/480608-portion-of-newly-built-wall-on-mexico-border-collapses

 

That’s good work their boys. Trump Builders at it again. 

37 miles per hour?  Are you fucking kidding me?  

We’d be arguing over whether to set the 1.5 or 2.2. 

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9 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

37 miles per hour?  Are you fucking kidding me?  

We’d be arguing over whether to set the 1.5 or 2.2. 

They should have at least reefed..

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2 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Blow me down. 
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/480608-portion-of-newly-built-wall-on-mexico-border-collapses

 

That’s good work their boys. Trump Builders at it again. 

Good to see the illegals were smart enough to use a tunnel ,  so the PERFECT wall wouldn't fall on them:                                                                                                                      4,309-foot-long tunnel in San Diego is longest ever discovered along Southwest border

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/4309-foot-long-tunnel-in-san-diego-is-longest-ever-discovered-along-southwest-border/ar-BBZsDoE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

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3 minutes ago, garuda3 said:

Good to see the illegals were smart enough to use a tunnel ,  so the PERFECT wall wouldn't fall on them:                                                                                                                      4,309-foot-long tunnel in San Diego is longest ever discovered along Southwest border

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/4309-foot-long-tunnel-in-san-diego-is-longest-ever-discovered-along-southwest-border/ar-BBZsDoE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

That’s a lot of work.  Better to just fly over. 

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So in the first interview after this the reporter asked Trump what happened R-reporter T- uh, you know

R - This wall that was involved in this incident in California this week

T - The one that fell down? I'd like to point out that is not very typical

R - It's not?

T - No, there are a lot of these walls all over the world and very seldom does something like this happen and I don't want people thinking that these walls aren't safe

R - Was this wall safe?

T - Well I was thinking about the other ones

R - the ones that are safe?

T - yeah, the ones that don't fall over

(skipping a bunch of really good stuff as I am tired of typing....)

R - so why did this wall fall down?

T - well a wind hit it.

R - a wind hit it?

T - A wind hit the wall

R - a wind hit the wall? Is that unusual?

T - oh yeah, in the desert? A chance in a million.

The good news is it fell out of the environment.  Thank you and good night.

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“CBP [Customs and Border Protection] will work with the construction contractor to mitigate the impact of high winds as construction continues,” Pitones said.:dono:

What are they going to do> Shoot the wind?

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I keep coming back to "37 MPH" and how that was too much for this structure.  My guess is they did not even factor in wind load, as that is actually a ridiculously low windspeed for something to fail.

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17 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

I keep coming back to "37 MPH" and how that was too much for this structure.  My guess is they did not even factor in wind load, as that is actually a ridiculously low windspeed for something to fail.

 

Rock Ridge Wall Company. 

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11 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Blow me down. 
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/480608-portion-of-newly-built-wall-on-mexico-border-collapses

 

That’s good work their boys. Trump Builders at it again. 

The article says it fell because concrete was not yet cured. If true, it means temporary bracing meant to hold it still while the concrete cured was not up to holding it in that much wind.

16 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

I keep coming back to "37 MPH" and how that was too much for this structure.  My guess is they did not even factor in wind load, as that is actually a ridiculously low windspeed for something to fail. 

Low for a permanent structure but maybe the temporary forms/braces/whatever were not wind rated or were rated to 30 or something.

 

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1 minute ago, Plenipotentiary Tom said:

The article says it fell because concrete was not yet cured. If true, it means temporary bracing meant to hold it still while the concrete cured was not up to holding it in that much wind.

Low for a permanent structure but maybe the temporary forms/braces/whatever were not wind rated or were rated to 30 or something.

 

Does Mexico do warranty work?

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16 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Does Mexico do warranty work?

Yes, except during siesta time.

Removing and replacing concrete wall foundations that are fucked up is probably and expensive and dirty process.

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42 minutes ago, Plenipotentiary Tom said:

The article says it fell because concrete was not yet cured. If true, it means temporary bracing meant to hold it still while the concrete cured was not up to holding it in that much wind.

Low for a permanent structure but maybe the temporary forms/braces/whatever were not wind rated or were rated to 30 or something.

 

I am not an engineer, nor have I recently stayed in a Holiday Inn Express.  That said, doesn't it seem odd to throw up an enormous windbreak atop a foundation not ready to receive the wind load such a structure would be expected to bear?

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At least the movie prop structure  in Rick Ridge stayed up until the Waco Kid squeezed off that shot. 

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11 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

37 miles per hour?  Are you fucking kidding me?  

We’d be arguing over whether to set the 1.5 or 2.2. 

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ROFLMAO

 

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1 hour ago, Bus Driver said:

I am not an engineer, nor have I recently stayed in a Holiday Inn Express.  That said, doesn't it seem odd to throw up an enormous windbreak atop a foundation not ready to receive the wind load such a structure would be expected to bear?

Depends what "expected to bear" means and over what time frame we're talking about. Here in FL, the powers that be are very stuck on making things resist 150 mph winds. So would that mean that temporary forms/braces should be able to withstand such a blast?

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1 hour ago, Plenipotentiary Tom said:

Depends what "expected to bear" means and over what time frame we're talking about. Here in FL, the powers that be are very stuck on making things resist 150 mph winds. So would that mean that temporary forms/braces should be able to withstand such a blast?

As a concrete inspector ( past life) what I can remember , properly mixed concrete can cure to 80% design strenght any where from 2 to 8 days and 100% ( design ) at 28 days, So it sounds like it was a bad mix, probably added too much water after the mix was started, too make it easier to work with

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1 hour ago, Plenipotentiary Tom said:

Depends what "expected to bear" means and over what time frame we're talking about. Here in FL, the powers that be are very stuck on making things resist 150 mph winds. So would that mean that temporary forms/braces should be able to withstand such a blast?

Not debating what wind load they expected it to bear.  They poured the foundation, then threw up the wall (with bracing, we both assume), before the concrete foundation cured.  Does that sound like a reasonable way to build a security structure?

I would think there would be guidelines on how long before erecting the windbreak (I mean, wall) after the concrete pour.  You know.  To let the concrete cure, properly.

Shirley someone can figure out how long to wait, right?

(edit) Just saw garuda's response.  My comments are to be taken with the expectation the mix was done according to spec.  Maybe it wasn't?

 

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1 minute ago, Bus Driver said:

Not debating what wind load they expected it to bear.  They poured the foundation, then threw up the wall (with bracing, we both assume), before the concrete foundation cured.  Does that sound like a reasonable way to build a security structure?

I would think there would be guidelines on how long before erecting the windbreak (I mean, wall) after the concrete pour.  You know.  To let the concrete cure, properly.

Shirley someone can figure out how long to wait, right?

 

See my last post, working at nuclear power plants , forms/ braces would be removed in 8 days,  or earlier if we a 2day  strength break , was within design,

wonder if they used any concrete inspectors ? probably not

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Undermined by the hundreds of tunnels underneath the foundation. That and lowest-bid contractors supervised by Trump campaign managers whose only goal is miles built before November.

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10 minutes ago, garuda3 said:

See my last post, working at nuclear power plants , forms/ braces would be removed in 8 days,  or earlier if we a 2day  strength break , was within design,

wonder if they used any concrete inspectors ? probably not

As soon as my post loaded, I saw yours.  I then edited my post to include a disclaimer about the specs you mentioned.

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15 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

37 miles per hour?  Are you fucking kidding me?  

We’d be arguing over whether to set the 1.5 or 2.2. 

Reef the main, get the chicken chute up, and get me a beer.

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Every pour I was ever part of that was structural - roads, foundations, footers etc required samples sent to a lab for testing. Get a fail? Bust it out and do it over again. 

But Trump knows walls better than anybody.

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I just think it is funny.  Unlike when you hear those words from your spouse, I really do think it is funny, and my disposition is not about to turn in a far less agreeable direction in the next moment. 

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4 hours ago, jerseyguy said:

Reef the main, get the chicken chute up, and get me a beer.

Shit.  Fuck the reef.  Hoist the 1.5 and get everyone stacked up on the stern pulpit.

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No sense in not setting the anchors while the mud is wet, but you don't set the structure up until the mud is set. That's a pretty simple concept.

Haste makes waste....

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7 hours ago, d'ranger said:

Every pour I was ever part of that was structural - roads, foundations, footers etc required samples sent to a lab for testing. Get a fail? Bust it out and do it over again. 

But Trump knows walls better than anybody.

Wish I had a $$$ for all these I broke, oh I did:

 

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20 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

That said, doesn't it seem odd to throw up an enormous windbreak atop a foundation not ready to receive the wind load such a structure would be expected to bear?

 

17 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Not debating what wind load they expected it to bear. 

Sorry, I thought I saw something in your question about that subject.

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1 hour ago, Plenipotentiary Tom said:
22 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

That said, doesn't it seem odd to throw up an enormous windbreak atop a foundation not ready to receive the wind load such a structure would be expected to bear?

 

19 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Not debating what wind load they expected it to bear. 

Sorry, I thought I saw something in your question about that subject.

If you don't edit my comment, I believe it is clear (at least to those not being an insufferable twat) that I was addressing the pour, not whether they designed it to withstand a 35 MPH wind or a 38 MPH wind.

 

19 hours ago, Bus Driver said:
21 hours ago, Plenipotentiary Tom said:

Depends what "expected to bear" means and over what time frame we're talking about. Here in FL, the powers that be are very stuck on making things resist 150 mph winds. So would that mean that temporary forms/braces should be able to withstand such a blast?

Not debating what wind load they expected it to bear.  They poured the foundation, then threw up the wall (with bracing, we both assume), before the concrete foundation cured.  Does that sound like a reasonable way to build a security structure?

I would think there would be guidelines on how long before erecting the windbreak (I mean, wall) after the concrete pour.  You know.  To let the concrete cure, properly.

Shirley someone can figure out how long to wait, right?

(edit) Just saw garuda's response.  My comments are to be taken with the expectation the mix was done according to spec.  Maybe it wasn't?

 

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On 1/30/2020 at 10:09 AM, jerseyguy said:

Reef the main, get the chicken chute up, and get me a beer.

Pit needs to play the vang aggressively if you want to stay upright.

Actually I’ve never hoisted a chicken chute. But I have chicken gybed offshore. It was blowing 40+ and the skipper wanted options and I remembered my dinghy lessons. Not exactly racerly but it did kinda save the day.

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On 1/30/2020 at 10:47 AM, d'ranger said:

Every pour I was ever part of that was structural - roads, foundations, footers etc required samples sent to a lab for testing. Get a fail? Bust it out and do it over again. 

But Trump knows walls better than anybody.

You have never had a foundation poured by a southern Queens contractor.  Or if you have, you were wise enough to not complain about the quality of the work.  Besides tests are more expensive than buying off the inspector.  You didn't even have to see the outline of the 45 in the pocket of the concrete guys pants to know it was there, did you?

You just buttoned up the LLC you used for that project and moved on to the next one.  

tRump certainly doesn't know walls better than anyone, but he does know kickbacks and bribes better than anyone.  

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On 1/30/2020 at 9:12 AM, garuda3 said:

See my last post, working at nuclear power plants , forms/ braces would be removed in 8 days,  or earlier if we a 2day  strength break , was within design,

wonder if they used any concrete inspectors ? probably not

Exactly.

Standard structural concrete has 7 day and 28 day strength targets that are published for every variation of mix and admixture and cylinders are taken from every pour by an independent testing agent and sent to a testing lab and tested (broken) before forms are removed.  The embeds for the structural steel are also tested.  And a geotechnical engineer tests and reports the compaction of the soil below the footings and the fill placed around the footings.  All these reports go to the local building inspector.  

Except.....That is unless you are building in mafia-controlled southern Long Island or throwing money at political contributors from Montana to throw up a couple of hundred miles of photo opportunity in Texas and Arizona before this September.   

On property that has been taken by condemnation from the local government, tribe or private owner with no permits and no environmental review and a Federal oversight team from the GSA that is terrified of the Oval Office.  

We are dealing with the biggest scam artist this country has seen since P.T. Barnum.

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A modern version of Teapot Dome or do we resuscitate the word “gate”? “Wallgate” just doesn’t have the proper ring or tone to it.

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Wall dome...  

 

Falling dome??  

 

Missing teeth dome?

How bout just the sieve......  or the strainer??  

 

Strainer gate??  

 

 

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As I understand it, they kind of forgot they were building across several arroyos that frequently flash flood in rainy season so they have to install wide gates across the arroyos that have to stand open for months at a time or whole sections could get washed away. 

So...while I was leaning (no pun intended) toward "Puff-gate",

There's only one name for me at this point:  Gate-gate.

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5 minutes ago, Left Shift said:

As I understand it, they kind of forgot they were building across several arroyos that frequently flash flood in rainy season so they have to install wide gates across the arroyos that have to stand open for months at a time or whole sections could get washed away. 

So...while I was leaning (no pun intended) toward "Puff-gate",

There's only one name for me at this point:  Gate-gate.

YCMTSU gate

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You need any more than "Trumpgate"? Because, eventually, everything he touches dies. We're going to need a lot of "sub-gates" to keep all the crimes kinda sorted.

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11 hours ago, Left Shift said:

We are dealing with the biggest scam artist this country has seen since P.T. Barnum.

Your giving PT Barnum a bad name ,LOL

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It's a really long and detailed read Border patrol recent history

From ProPublica one of my better news sources.  Typical story for an agency tasked way above it's abilities and just when it seems about to get a handle on the issues, corruption etc. Trump arrives and well, not hard to guess what happens.  Well worth the time to read if you care about issues at the southern border, human rights (both employees and immigrants) and what happens when too much is attempted with little to no oversight. 

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Puff-Gate, definitely

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15 hours ago, d'ranger said:

It's a really long and detailed read Border patrol recent history

From ProPublica one of my better news sources.  Typical story for an agency tasked way above it's abilities and just when it seems about to get a handle on the issues, corruption etc. Trump arrives and well, not hard to guess what happens.  Well worth the time to read if you care about issues at the southern border, human rights (both employees and immigrants) and what happens when too much is attempted with little to no oversight. 

 

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Fisher’s first encounter with Provost came late one night while he and a tactical team, clad in black and with their faces covered in black grease paint, were tracking a group of migrants in the desert east of Douglas. “We heard a sound, and all of a sudden I saw this person go by on a bicycle,” Fisher said. “We thought it was a scout or something, so we started running and got into position and flashed our lights and announced that we were Border Patrol agents.”

The bicyclist, Fisher said, doubled back, and he was surprised to see a woman in a Border Patrol uniform on a mountain bike. He said he asked what she was doing in the desert alone in the middle of the night.

“Well, what are you doing here?” the agent shot back, Fisher remembered.

“I told her we were tracking the group,” Fisher said. “And she said: ‘Like hell you are. That’s my group.’ And then she rode off into the desert. And I was like, ‘Wow, who was that?’”

Later, he would find out it was Provost, a supervisor on the Border Patrol’s recently created bike unit. “I was impressed,” he said. “She stood her ground.”

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Unwilling to work with her fellow employees because the most important thing was that she get credit for the bust. Not really someone I'd like on a team, let alone leading it.

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In testimony before Congress, Provost said that she’d joined the secret group in 2017 to keep tabs on her workforce, but that she was on Facebook “very, very rarely” and was unaware of the offensive nature of the posts until they came out in the media last summer.

So she joined to keep tabs on her employees, then didn't actually keep tabs on them. Or maybe did keep tabs on them but saw nothing that could be exploited for personal advancement.

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Well,  just to prove that the bar can always be lowered, Homeland Security has just announced that they have removed all the requirements for competitive bidding for the construction of the wall.  They are just going to sole source contracts for segments to preferred contractors and prohibiting challenges.  

No permits

No environmental review

No protection of traditional grave sites

No due process for land owners

No competitive bidding

and an incompetent design of an idiotic concept.

So much winning.

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Concrete barricades are placed behind exterior fencing outside of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building at the White House, following a night of protests against the death in Minneapolis police custody of George Floyd, near the White House in Washington, U.S., June 4, 2020. REUTERS/Tom Brenner - RC2J2H9L6N6P

Concrete barricades are placed behind fencing outside of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building at the White House, following a night of protests near the White House in Washington, D.C., June 4, 2020.

Photo: Tom Brenner/Reuters

https://theintercept.com/2020/06/05/white-house-wall-trump-protests/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=theintercept

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U.S. Customs and Border Protection has asked contractors for help making President Trump’s border wall more difficult to climb over and cut through, an acknowledgment that the design currently being installed across hundreds of miles of the U.S.-Mexico boundary remains vulnerable…

CBP has not said publicly how often smuggling crews have breached or attempted to breach the structure. Records obtained by The Post via the Freedom of Information Act indicate there were 18 breaches in the San Diego area during a single one-month period last fall. The San Diego area has some of the most formidable barriers along the entire border, and construction of new double-layered fencing there is largely complete.

Smuggling crews have nonetheless managed to saw through the steel bollards using commercially available demolition tools such as reciprocating saws with inexpensive metal-cutting blades. Others have fashioned long, improvised ladders out of cheap metal rebar. More athletic border-jumpers have been seen using rope ladders to climb up the wall, sliding down the other side by gripping the bollards like a fireman’s pole.

The CBP request for information says the agency is looking for new ways to stop them.

 

washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-border-wall-vulnerable/2020/06/04/ccd40e5e-a66e-11ea-8681-7d471bf20207_story.html

 

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13 hours ago, Mid said:

Concrete barricades are placed behind exterior fencing outside of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building at the White House, following a night of protests against the death in Minneapolis police custody of George Floyd, near the White House in Washington, U.S., June 4, 2020. REUTERS/Tom Brenner - RC2J2H9L6N6P

Concrete barricades are placed behind fencing outside of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building at the White House, following a night of protests near the White House in Washington, D.C., June 4, 2020.

Photo: Tom Brenner/Reuters

https://theintercept.com/2020/06/05/white-house-wall-trump-protests/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=theintercept

The hashtag #babygate is trending on Twitter.

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17 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Trump says the border wall "stopped COVID"

Gonna need @Dog or one of the other loyal defenders of President Trump to explain this bit of logic.

Thankfully, very little of Trump's stupid vision of a wall from sea to shining sea has been built, so he's actually mostly praising a wall built by Obama with funding voted for by Hillary. Makes me wish he would go back to undoing stuff they did.

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15 minutes ago, Cacoethesic Tom said:

Thankfully, very little of Trump's stupid vision of a wall from sea to shining sea has been built, so he's actually mostly praising a wall built by Obama with funding voted for by Hillary. Makes me wish he would go back to undoing stuff they did.

Although the Ninth Circuit ruled Trump's movement of funds from the Pentagon was illegal, it doesn't seem to be slowing down Donnie. He still has $14 billion in testing funds he never spent. Stay tuned.

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Privately Funded Border Wall. It’s Already at Risk of Falling Down if Not Fixed.

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Tommy Fisher billed his new privately funded border wall as the future of deterrence, a quick-to-build steel fortress that spans 3 miles in one of the busiest Border Patrol sectors.

Unlike a generation of wall builders before him, he said he figured out how to build a structure directly on the banks of the Rio Grande, a risky but potentially game-changing step when it came to the nation’s border wall system.

Fisher has leveraged his self-described “Lamborghini” of walls to win more than $1.7 billion worth of federal contracts in Arizona.

But his showcase piece is showing signs of runoff erosion and, if it’s not fixed, could be in danger of falling into the Rio Grande, according to engineers and hydrologists who reviewed photos of the wall for ProPublica and The Texas Tribune. It never should have been built so close to the river, they say.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/he-built-a-privately-funded-border-wall-its-already-at-risk-of-falling-down-if-not-fixed?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social#972506

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New news on the WALL.  Last year a large swath of WALL blew over in a stiff breeze and now we find out that it’s in danger of falling into the Rio Grande river.

Troubling.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/border-wall-built-by-trumps-hand-picked-contractor-is-in-danger-of-falling-into-the-rio-grande/

Edit oops posted without looking at the prior post.

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1 minute ago, Fakenews said:

New news on the WALL.  Last year of swath of WALL blew over in a stiff breeze and now we find out that it’s in danger of falling into the Rio Grande river.

Troubling.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/border-wall-built-by-trumps-hand-picked-contractor-is-in-danger-of-falling-into-the-rio-grande/

who knows.... It might even make a bridge?

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Well, I stand corrected.  President Trump has erected a mighty fine wall.  It just isn't what we thought it would be -

wall.jpg

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