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I was curious if anyone can recommend a small Opti sized sailboat that can hold an adult but sail with and Opti. The goal would be to find a small sailboat that I could sail next to my kids when they are in their Opti. Ideally something bathtub like (non-self bailing) that look like an Opti for adults.

 

-H

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A Laser. Luff the sail to match speed. When junior is ready, put a 4.7 on it and buy yourself a new one.

when the kid has a kid you can both sail with the kid.

Then when the grandkid is ready, buy yourself a new Laser and pass the boats down

Then when the grandkid has a kid.....

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Big difference between "coaching" and "sailing with".your kids. For coaching, U are going to need much more speed than an opti on steroids. U need to be able to move fore and aft and port and starboard of the coached boat. Its easy to slow down a much faster boat to sail along side but to trail and then move along side (either P or S) and move ahead etc at will in another opti type tub.....not so much.

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Sunfish works great for me and my 8 year old. Stable enough for me to help him right the Opti when he flipped (he did not believe an Opti could flip...). Easy for me to luff when sailing to his leeward so I can get him to stay on the wind. Fast enough to make it to the next mark early and coach him toward it. Works well and the price is right!

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I know a guy who has been collecting old Bytes to teach his daughters and their friends to sail. I think they have about 4 of them. Dad uses the megabyte rig and leads the pack of around. Its a funny sight.

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Came in expecting a helicopter parent looking for a Zodiac to spoon feed their kid from. Faith in humanity restored. Byte, while not looking or sailing like an Opti, is an excellent option because the kid can try it out in the lighter stuff and gives them a transitional boat to moving into something less stable. It's also the ideal boat for a child moving on to the 29er later on.

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How about a mirror? They are slow and box shaped just like optis but big enough for an adult (and child if you want). Probably some going cheap just north of you

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Love my Trinka 12 and looking forward to using it for the same application.

Good choice, we use our Trinka 12's (have 5) for adult sailing classes and opti training. Work well with 1.5 HP outboard motor too

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How about a mirror? They are slow and box shaped just like optis but big enough for an adult (and child if you want). Probably some going cheap just north of you

+1 on the Mirror.

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I was thinking an inflatable hull catamaran. Significantly faster is useful, low freeboard is useful, ability to raft up for repairs/tweaks, lunch/change of clothing etc is very useful, and if necessary should be able to fold up Oppy rig and tow it home.

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On 1/8/2017 at 4:06 PM, Infinite said:

I was curious if anyone can recommend a small Opti sized sailboat that can hold an adult but sail with and Opti. The goal would be to find a small sailboat that I could sail next to my kids when they are in their Opti. Ideally something bathtub like (non-self bailing) that look like an Opti for adults.

 

-H

Could you build yourself a Mirror Dinghy?

most parents around here use a Laser. 

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I use a Topaz Taz, which is kid-size, so can be double handed kid+adult for learning. A plain Topaz is probably good as well. Any rotomolded boat of similar size/class as a Topaz will do.

Similar boats include Laser Pico, and something in the RS line. Whichever you can get reasonably priced 2nd hand locally :-) -- bonus points for being sailable kid+adult, and adding some challenge (asym spinnaker?).

Most boats will be a bit faster than the opti, and that gives you the edge to catch up and help out, if needed. In very light winds, however, my son sails away laughing at me...

 

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I can totally kick ass on the opti kids in my 10' Gig Harbor Navigator.  I beat em by at least a few % in anything over 5 knots but it's tough holding them off to leeward. ;-) Any 10 foot open dinghy/rowboat style should be slow enough.

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Here's a playlist showing my son sailing, and me coaching and playing/racing from (a) a Taz, (b) a Weta, and (c) onboard the same Taz as he is. 

 

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You want an Optimus Maximus, you say?

No seriously, you can buy the plans here.

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Designed to be a club trainer among a fleet of real Optimists, with a hull shape and rig the 'kids' could relate to and able to carry an adult instructor with a couple of students, the boat has turned out to be a lot more that just a trainer and is both a very capable little cruiser and a speedy and agile daysailer.

 

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