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New York - San Francisco on a proa

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That's always good to see new event. I'm pretty sure it will be great. B)

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I'd never consider a Proa for crossing the equator.

 

I strongly doubt anyone else who has crossed the equator under sail would do it on a Proa.

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^^^ You're not serious, right??? :blink:

 

I am a bit worried for this project because the website talks about the winter 2016-2017... It seems late for this year now...

 

Y'all know that the guy leading this project posts here once in a while; right?

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Carcrash, how do you think people got to Waikiki in the first place?

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This is Ryan Finn's project that he has been working on for quite some time. Anything he puts his mind to can be accomplished. Can't wait to follow this incredible journey.

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Proa's? This discussion should me moved to the argument thread over in CA from the get go...

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I believe Russel Brown has crossed the equator multiple times in a Proa, nothing unusual about that, Cape Horn is a whole other kettle of fish.

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On 2/15/2017 at 9:37 AM, carcrash said:

I'd never consider a Proa for crossing the equator.

 

I strongly doubt anyone else who has crossed the equator under sail would do it on a Proa.

Seventeen years ago, Russell Brown and Steven Callahan sailed JZERRO (the same proa Ryan will use in his NY-->SF effort) from San Francisco to the Marquesas and on to New Zealand and Australia.  Made the cover of Cruising World.

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4 hours ago, sailronin said:

I believe Russel Brown has crossed the equator multiple times in a Proa, nothing unusual about that, Cape Horn is a whole other kettle of fish.

Just that once crossing the equator, as far as I know.

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The boat came back to the Northern Hemisphere, thus two crossings at least.

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8 hours ago, sailronin said:

The boat came back to the Northern Hemisphere, thus two crossings at least.

It was shipped back, not sailed.

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My mistake!

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As I said ... :D

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1 hour ago, carcrash said:

As I said ... :D

I never cease to wonder at those who so gleefully display their ignorance.  You were wrong regarding "anyone else".  Sailing conservatively, Brown and Callahan made it from Half Moon Bay (just south of San Francisco) to the Marquesas - a great circle distance of 3000 nautical miles - in 19 days.

From Steve Callahan's Cruising World article Starship to Oceania

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By day we drive. At night, we flip on the autobuddy and drop the main. At a slow six-to eight knots, Jzerro calms enough for us to snag some sleep. We dream of warmer, smoother trade winds 300 to 500 miles south. For five days, at first across westerly and then down northerly eight-to-twelve-foot seas, we drive her at, perhaps, 60 percent of her capacity. We run mostly under jib alone until the wind veers north, then under double jibs with one tacked out to the bow of the ama. We can carry this asymmetrical, proa-style wing-and-wing setup almost up to a beam reach. Even under much reduced sail, we average 180 to 200 miles a day. 

 

Not that I think it's the best choice for Cape Horn...  And all proas are not alike by any means.  I've seen more than a few that I would never sail offshore, anywhere.

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