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Francisco Laguna

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Looks like Black Jack upgraded to the 100ft club. Purchased Esmit Europa

Have you heard...

 

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Looks like Black Jack upgraded to the 100ft club. Purchased Esmit Europa

Have you heard...

 

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Liar, prove it!

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Looks like Black Jack upgraded to the 100ft club. Purchased Esmit Europa

Have you heard...

 

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Liar, prove it!

 

Last seen doing the graveyard shift at Maccas in Nairobi. Still sounds the same too...

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As slow as SailingAnarchy forums are now a days, I should have read down a little further. I will say I did not care to read through some obscure thread about about a race on another continent to find that fragment of info. At least I know now who is not working.

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Looks like Black Jack upgraded to the 100ft club. Purchased Esmit Europa

Have you heard...

 

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Liar, prove it!
Last seen doing the graveyard shift at Maccas in Nairobi. Still sounds the same too...

He's in DFG, everybody knows that.

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Looks like Black Jack upgraded to the 100ft club. Purchased Esmit Europa

Have you heard...

 

3d585a74706d6447c4d34dcd1607649f.jpg

Liar, prove it!
Last seen doing the graveyard shift at Maccas in Nairobi. Still sounds the same too...

He's in DFG, everybody knows that.

 

 

Is Elvis going to helm Black Jack?

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I predict another retirement from wild oats this year. Comanche and Esimit showing up? If it's light, the original version of the R/P100 will sneak right through. If it's heavy the fat bottomed girl will go cruising right on by.

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Looks like Black Jack upgraded to the 100ft club. Purchased Esmit Europa

Have you heard...

 

3d585a74706d6447c4d34dcd1607649f.jpg

Liar, prove it!
Last seen doing the graveyard shift at Maccas in Nairobi. Still sounds the same too...

He's in DFG, everybody knows that.

 

 

Is Elvis going to helm Black Jack?

 

Navigator / Tactician from what I've heard

I predict another retirement from wild oats this year. Comanche and Esimit showing up? If it's light, the original version of the R/P100 will sneak right through. If it's heavy the fat bottomed girl will go cruising right on by.

 

Forecast is looking inauspicious

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Just pm Dougy, he is project manager!!!!

 

Maxi peoples foiler!!!!!!!

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Mods done by Southport? Given that the boat hasn't hit Sydney yet the scope will have to be pretty limited I'd have thought. They'd be looking at a 2 month layover in the shed at most.

 

Deeper keel, lighter bulb, junk the CBTF setup for daggers and maybe shift the rudder aft and use a smaller blade - unless future plans also envisage a WOXI style cut and shut to move the rig and keel aft relative to the waterline.

 

Adding DSS and its systems as well unlikely in that timeframe I'd imagine - unless McConaghy is shipping in large numbers of boat builders from elsewhere.

 

No mention of any rig changes but expect a big square top if it doesn't currently have one. Maybe a sprit extension too?

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Mods done by Southport? Given that the boat hasn't hit Sydney yet the scope will have to be pretty limited I'd have thought. They'd be looking at a 2 month layover in the shed at most.

 

Deeper keel, lighter bulb, junk the CBTF setup for daggers and maybe shift the rudder aft and use a smaller blade - unless future plans also envisage a WOXI style cut and shut to move the rig and keel aft relative to the waterline.

 

Adding DSS and its systems as well unlikely in that timeframe I'd imagine - unless McConaghy is shipping in large numbers of boat builders from elsewhere.

 

No mention of any rig changes but expect a big square top if it doesn't currently have one. Maybe a sprit extension too?

 

 

Boat is in Sydney already since beginning April!

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Mods done by Southport? Given that the boat hasn't hit Sydney yet the scope will have to be pretty limited I'd have thought. They'd be looking at a 2 month layover in the shed at most.

 

Deeper keel, lighter bulb, junk the CBTF setup for daggers and maybe shift the rudder aft and use a smaller blade - unless future plans also envisage a WOXI style cut and shut to move the rig and keel aft relative to the waterline.

 

Adding DSS and its systems as well unlikely in that timeframe I'd imagine - unless McConaghy is shipping in large numbers of boat builders from elsewhere.

 

No mention of any rig changes but expect a big square top if it doesn't currently have one. Maybe a sprit extension too?

Boat is in Sydney already since beginning April!

Good to hear. They'll need a bit of time.

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Love the cone of silence programme. Imagine getting that sucker from Botany to Mona Vale without SOMEONE taking a snap shot. Dead of night motored up the coast? Or 3AM semi trailer job? Either way, exciting the beast is back!

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I did hear a very loud helicopter down that way the other night. Sounded like it was carrying something heavy! :D

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Wonder if the Alive (RP66 & 1st BJ) guy is now pondering buying the V70? Would be ironic if he did and then the perfect V70 S2H weather finally materialised this year.

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You mean like last year when a vo70 won?

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No not last year...a weather year where average big boat BS is over 20k not under 20k and LH, not handicap.

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Wonder if the Alive (RP66 & 1st BJ) guy is now pondering buying the V70? Would be ironic if he did and then the perfect V70 S2H weather finally materialised this year.

No he isn't at the moment

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Wonder if the Alive (RP66 & 1st BJ) guy is now pondering buying the V70? Would be ironic if he did and then the perfect V70 S2H weather finally materialised this year.

No he isn't at the moment

Mono interesting your words "at the moment". I hope someone stumps up and she stays in Australia...a very very nice race boat for someone.

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Will be interesting to see what RP specify for the mods? How much different will they be to Wild Oats? My other question is were RP involved in all the mods for Wild Oats or were some done locally? We may end up with 2 slightly different boats and I'm not convinced that all of Oat's mods went to plan?

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Will be interesting to see what RP specify for the mods? How much different will they be to Wild Oats? My other question is were RP involved in all the mods for Wild Oats or were some done locally? We may end up with 2 slightly different boats and I'm not convinced that all of Oat's mods went to plan?

As I understand it R/P wasn't involved in all the WOXI Mods, though not sure which ones in particular.

 

I doubt there's any way the Black Jack program could achieve the cut and shut in the three months allocated

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WOXI's frankenstein job took 3 1/2 months I recall and with more of a head start than these guys have had.

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Exactly. New parts could be ready to be glued on. Didn't Cookson build a new bow for a Z86 then flew it over & fitted it.

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WOXI's frankenstein job took 3 1/2 months I recall and with more of a head start than these guys have had.

Plus I'd assume they're junking the CBTF setup and fitting daggerboards as well...

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Isn't Sydney Southport their first planned race? If it hit the deck here early this month and Mona Vale had already started shit, then they may just make it with a major franky job. Fuckin tight program though as Dick says.

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I'm not sure why anyone thinks doing the WO11 cut and shut is a good move. WO11 hadn't won anything since that mod, it's quite possible it has made a dog of that boat.

The low risk approach is to do minor changes to modernise the hull, and see how it goes. The boat has lasted many years without becoming obsolete, it's not going to happen in the next 10 months.

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JB WOXI's has had plenty of chops & BJ didn't ship a 100' yacht across the globe for 2nd. I'd say most mods will be appear on BJ100. Bow & stern chop, daggerboards, keel & bulb etc. It will be interesting to see if the stern is the same. At the end of the day the Australian yachting scene is just not big enough for WO to keep any secrets, im sure the BJ team have all the real info.

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I'm not sure why anyone thinks doing the WO11 cut and shut is a good move. WO11 hadn't won anything since that mod, it's quite possible it has made a dog of that boat.

 

Get a grip. No one knows anything as it has shit itself in two S2H since, the only major races it has been in post it's franky job. Unlike you dickhead these guys are spending serious money..not waffling into almond coated goats milk chemical free lattes.

 

PS.I need to give myself an uppercut..I'm sounding like I'm joining Scana's WOXI fanboy club..God forbid.

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Scoreboards pretty hard to argue against JS!

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Scoreboards pretty hard to argue against JS!

With no opposition...and as a one pony one race outfit that couldn't finish the last two outings...sure they shine and let's park 2014 as weather weirdness favouring them.

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C'mon JS stop stirring.

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^^^ I'm allowed to stir...let you off the betting hook in 2015 I recall as I elegantly refused to take your money for a WOXI DNF young man.

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What we do know for certain is that it shit itself in two S2H since those mods.

Before those mods it was as reliable as a Corolla. It isn't now.

 

And It lost to two boats it hadn't lost to before the mods. We know that for certain too.

 

 

 

I'm not sure why anyone thinks doing the WO11 cut and shut is a good move. WO11 hadn't won anything since that mod, it's quite possible it has made a dog of that boat.

 

Get a grip. No one knows anything as it has shit itself in two S2H since, the only major races it has been in post it's franky job. Unlike you dickhead these guys are spending serious money..not waffling into almond coated goats milk chemical free lattes.

 

PS.I need to give myself an uppercut..I'm sounding like I'm joining Scana's WOXI fanboy club..God forbid.

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I was always happy to pay out on that bottle of Sailors JS.

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I was always happy to pay out on that bottle of Sailors JS.

Yes you did Scanas and you are clearly an honest, reliable and intelligent soul..but you have family to look after..hence my folding the tent on that bet..unlike JayBjesus whose thoughts travelling across his mind will only be a slow and lonely journey bereft of oxygen.

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But, thoughts nonetheless, and let's be honest, you haven't had an original one since the invention of electricity.

 

 

 

I was always happy to pay out on that bottle of Sailors JS.

Yes you did Scanas and you are clearly an honest, reliable and intelligent soul..but you have family to look after..hence my folding the tent on that bet..unlike JayBjesus whose thoughts travelling across his mind will only be a slow and lonely journey bereft of oxygen.

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JayBjesus ..electricity humour..you really should be a comedian..though you will end up on a park bench in 5 minutes ..but hey, you tried.

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expect twin dagger boards to replace forward canard.... relatively quick to achieve in the scheme of things.... and not much else apart from a paint job this time round. Plus new suit of sails.

 

Don't forget the North Sails Connection between Mark Bradford and Michael Coxon.... especially now that Cocko has sold out to the 'Mother ship'... so information is freely available... Also, McConaghy's will have provided 'engineering feedback'.... so areas will be targeted.

 

By design this boat is wider than "WOXI" so that could lead to the dagger boards having more 'cant' or slightly different placement... this is where RP come into play...

 

I will keep an eye on Basset St.... :ph34r::ph34r:

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I'm not sure why anyone thinks doing the WO11 cut and shut is a good move. WO11 hadn't won anything since that mod, it's quite possible it has made a dog of that boat.

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They took about 6 hours off the B2K record last year.

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.... oh, and don't forget the increase in Bowsprit for MEGA sail area up front.

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With the big Indian heading south again (is that confirmed). Smart money might to mode it for light or head winds, leaving oats and scallywag to battle over the crumbs in the middle.

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expect twin dagger boards to replace forward canard.... relatively quick to achieve in the scheme of things.... and not much else apart from a paint job this time round. Plus new suit of sails.

 

Don't forget the North Sails Connection between Mark Bradford and Michael Coxon.... especially now that Cocko has sold out to the 'Mother ship'... so information is freely available... Also, McConaghy's will have provided 'engineering feedback'.... so areas will be targeted.

 

By design this boat is wider than "WOXI" so that could lead to the dagger boards having more 'cant' or slightly different placement... this is where RP come into play...

 

I will keep an eye on Basset St.... :ph34r::ph34r:

 

Very possible that daggers would carry negative cant to act as lifting boards like the Indian's rather than being purely for lateral resistance, unless of course DSS is part of the package, in which case a single centreboard may suffice - less weight. I recall Huw Welbourne has been subtly telegraphing involvement in a 100 foot project in recent times.

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Hey Dick, wasn't that project Lludde 's ? Bigboatracing.com

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Hey Dick, wasn't that project Lludde 's ? Bigboatracing.com

 

Very possibly, certainly Huw's involvement in that isn't news but IIRC the last time I saw him obliquely reference 100 footer involvement CQS was already public knowledge. Perhaps I'm mistaken, I'm certainly skeptical that the BJ campaign would have time to consider and implement DSS if they are really committed to being in action for Southport. Maybe that's a future thing.

 

Given IMOCA and other recent foiling developments I'd be very surprised if BJ and other big boat programs weren't actively considering assorted foiling options. Given the size, speed and momentum of a 100 foot monohull relative to the waves it sails in, plus it already having a range of existing powered control systems and related infrastructure, I'd imagine a big boat could be relatively stable on foils compared to smaller boats and hence would benefit proportionally more.

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Which is great, but it had no direct competition, so I don't think it tells us anything.

Both BlackJack and Alive were inside the old record too, so that points to excellent conditions rather than dominance by WO11.

 

I am just making the point that in its current incarnation, there is no evidence it is quicker over a course than its previous form.

 

 

 

I'm not sure why anyone thinks doing the WO11 cut and shut is a good move. WO11 hadn't won anything since that mod, it's quite possible it has made a dog of that boat.

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They took about 6 hours off the B2K record last year.

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The only numbers you could try to use are off the ORCi certificate. If you compare it shows that she is faster in most conditions except in VMG running and fresh reaching

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WOXI 2014.pdf

WOXI 2016.pdf

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No foils

No DSS

Remove CBTF

Single dagger board

 

Racing to Southport

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Spend the big bucks in 2018 then? Makes sense ..Rome wasn't conquered in a day.

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why is anything on this thread even relevant to anyone!

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^^^ Why do you keep picking up the phone then? Sounds like an emotional deprivation disorder thing. Go hug someone you hate other than yourself..that might cure it.

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It's SA, nothing has to be relevant. Especially when posting from an armchair. 😊

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No foils

No DSS

Remove CBTF

Single dagger board

Racing to Southport

You forgot "back to manual pumps", or was that intentional?

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I just hope the keep the interior intact. Amazing.

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I got all excited when I drove into the hardware store next door to Macca's, and there was a large crane lifting a black hull.

 

Alas, as I got closer, it wasn't Blackjack.

 

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Pretty sure it was at SCM earlier this month, when I collected our boat from there on the 12th it was no longer there.

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Hey Jethrow... how about you earn to spell...... John McConaghy has been around Mona Vale as long as you have..... in fact you probably once sailed a McConaghy built moth.

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oops ...so should I ... :wacko::wacko::wacko: that should be 'LEARN'... more good stuff to come from Bassett St

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I got all excited when I drove into the hardware store next door to Macca's, and there was a large crane lifting a black hull.

 

Alas, as I got closer, it wasn't Blackjack.

 

Prolly Guido Belgirono-Nettis's new toy, got a write up in Seahorse last month

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Quote RP Website: The R/P team has been commissioned to update the new 100’ Black Jack and is currently conducting a comprehensive CFD study to develop new foils for the 2003 design. Modifications will be completed by McConaghy Boats, Sydney and the boat will compete in Cruising Yacht Club of Australia’s July, 384nm Sydney-Southport race in full Black Jack livery as a tune for the December’s showdown to Hobart against Wild Oats X1 and other contesting Maxis’.


Originally commissioned by Neville Crichton, Reichel/Pugh’s first 100’, the canting ballast Alfa Romeo was designed in 2003 and launched for the 2005 Rolex Sydney-Hobart Race. Alfa Romeo 100 took 2nd place in that Hobart to Bob Oatley’s R/P-designed line honors winner Wild Oats X1. Alfa Romeo then headed to Europe to relentlessly set records before heading back to Australia in 2009, but not before setting a new Transpac Race record along the way. Once back in Australia, Crichton’s impeccably prepared Alfa Romeo again faced a rematch with her near sister-ship Wild Oats X1—this time soundly trouncing the Wild Oats for Hobart line honors in 2009.


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How far behind Oates design upgrade wise is this boat?

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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Extra far behind.

 

Shorter/weaker Bowsprit, no light air daggerboard up forward, CBTF versus the twin daggers back aft, original mast, no structural work done around the DSS both putting it in and taking it out, wider, probably a generation old on keel fin and bulb design, obviously all of the cut and shuts done to the boat to move the mast back,

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Extra far behind.

 

Shorter/weaker Bowsprit, no light air daggerboard up forward, CBTF versus the twin daggers back aft, original mast, no structural work done around the DSS both putting it in and taking it out, wider, probably a generation old on keel fin and bulb design, obviously all of the cut and shuts done to the boat to move the mast back,

Does it have a grandfathered tungsten bulb?

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.... oh, and don't forget the increase in Bowsprit LOA for MEGA sail area up front.

 

fixored for correctness :ph34r:

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Black Jack have a bit of catching up to do if you go off the ORCi certificate, The table below is the % speed differential

 

 

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Extra far behind.

 

Shorter/weaker Bowsprit, no light air daggerboard up forward, CBTF versus the twin daggers back aft, original mast, no structural work done around the DSS both putting it in and taking it out, wider, probably a generation old on keel fin and bulb design, obviously all of the cut and shuts done to the boat to move the mast back,

 

AFAIK the light air daggerboard up front on WOXI was fitted because they screwed up the main daggers - too small and/or too far aft apparently. And with the bow extension the underlying problem would have become even worse as the daggerboards moved aft 2 metres relative to the boat's overall waterplane with the cut and shut exercise.

 

Extra far behind.

 

Shorter/weaker Bowsprit, no light air daggerboard up forward, CBTF versus the twin daggers back aft, original mast, no structural work done around the DSS both putting it in and taking it out, wider, probably a generation old on keel fin and bulb design, obviously all of the cut and shuts done to the boat to move the mast back,

Does it have a grandfathered tungsten bulb?

 

Yes. It's listed on the 2015 vintage ORCi certificate

 

http://data.orc.org/public/WPub.dll/CC/64934.pdf

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It may be worth BJ sticking with the old keel foil and grandfathered bulb. Not sure they can change the foil and keep the bulb under the rules. The foil on a canter is largely a strut to hold the bulb up, it doesn't need to provide hydrodynamic lift so I doubt there's anything terribly wrong with the foil section itself.

 

A ton of tungsten is 58% the volume of a ton of lead, though IIRC the boat's bulb is made of tungsten ingots in a lead substrate (the melting point of tungsten is over 3400 degrees C vs 330 for lead so it's not practical to cast a bulb directly from tungsten) so will be a bit bigger than 58% in comparative volume, say 70%. With that plus 843 mm less draft, BJ's keel drag will be a lot less than WOXI, increasingly with speed as drag goes up with the square of velocity. Eliminate the drag of the forward rudder through installing daggerboards and given that BJ is a couple of tonnes lighter than WOXI it ought to be a much better downwind proposition.

 

WOXI righting moment is 2.5% higher than Esimit (according to the ORCi certificates) so it ought to be a bit better upwind. Install DSS on the new BJ and reaching and downwind it ought to kill WOXI through more righting moment and less drag. I'd be surprised if DSS isn't on the agenda at some point.

 

I doubt DSS is all that useful upwind so I guess it depends whether the BJ program wants to mode for upwind or downwind superiority vs WOXI.

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It may be worth BJ sticking with the old keel foil and grandfathered bulb. Not sure they can change the foil and keep the bulb under the rules. The foil on a canter is largely a strut to hold the bulb up, it doesn't need to provide hydrodynamic lift so I doubt there's anything terribly wrong with the foil section itself.

 

A ton of tungsten is 58% the volume of a ton of lead, though IIRC the boat's bulb is made of tungsten ingots in a lead substrate (the melting point of tungsten is over 3400 degrees C vs 330 for lead so it's not practical to cast a bulb directly from tungsten) so will be a bit bigger than 58% in comparative volume, say 70%. With that plus 843 mm less draft, BJ's keel drag will be a lot less than WOXI, increasingly with speed as drag goes up with the square of velocity. Eliminate the drag of the forward rudder through installing daggerboards and given that BJ is a couple of tonnes lighter than WOXI it ought to be a much better downwind proposition.

 

WOXI righting moment is 2.5% higher than Esimit (according to the ORCi certificates) so it ought to be a bit better upwind. Install DSS on the new BJ and reaching and downwind it ought to kill WOXI through more righting moment and less drag. I'd be surprised if DSS isn't on the agenda at some point.

 

I doubt DSS is all that useful upwind so I guess it depends whether the BJ program wants to mode for upwind or downwind superiority vs WOXI.

 

I'm sure RP will have a handle on all of this and will be presenting the team with the various options, pros and cons

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..I doubt DSS is all that useful upwind so I guess it depends whether the BJ program wants to mode for upwind or downwind superiority vs WOXI.

To go the former would mean an admission that a lot of time, effort and money has been wasted these last few years chasing the latter. Can't see that happening...particularly if the view is WOXI achilles heel now is lighter stuff uphill. A race that tends to have a bit of everything makes it all very interesting.

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I just hope the keep the interior intact. Amazing.

They are. And they are keeping the old boat for the time being as well.

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Does anyone know (as against have an unfounded guess) how much involvement RP have had with the last few rounds of Oats upgrades?

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Does anyone know (as against have an unfounded guess) how much involvement RP have had with the last few rounds of Oats upgrades?

I recall Richo describing how some other Naval Architect was heavily involved in some of the mods, can't recall who.

 

R/P claim to have done the new bow section: http://reichel-pugh.com/tag/wild-oats-xi/

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Hey Jethrow... how about you earn to spell...... John McConaghy has been around Mona Vale as long as you have..... in fact you probably once sailed a McConaghy built moth.

:P Yeah, being as technologically advanced as I am I typed a heading for the pic, meaning to fix it and then just posted.

 

In other sad news I hear that the Mona Vale factory is moving :(

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Does anyone know (as against have an unfounded guess) how much involvement RP have had with the last few rounds of Oats upgrades?

I recall Richo describing how some other Naval Architect was heavily involved in some of the mods, can't recall who.

 

R/P claim to have done the new bow section: http://reichel-pugh.com/tag/wild-oats-xi/

 

Steve Quigley is a local NA and sails on the boat

http://www.theleader...-a-power-boost/

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Does anyone know (as against have an unfounded guess) how much involvement RP have had with the last few rounds of Oats upgrades?

I recall Richo describing how some other Naval Architect was heavily involved in some of the mods, can't recall who.

 

R/P claim to have done the new bow section: http://reichel-pugh.com/tag/wild-oats-xi/

Steve Quigley is a local NA and sails on the boat

http://www.theleader...-a-power-boost/

Well spotted, that's who I was thinking of. Not sure what bevel of involvement Huw W had in the plank - don't recall hearing "DSS" mentioned at the time though latterly Huw has referenced WOXI IIRC.

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Hey Jethrow... how about you earn to spell...... John McConaghy has been around Mona Vale as long as you have..... in fact you probably once sailed a McConaghy built moth.

:P Yeah, being as technologically advanced as I am I typed a heading for the pic, meaning to fix it and then just posted.

 

In other sad news I hear that the Mona Vale factory is moving :(

 

 

Yep, McConaghy has already moved out of Mona Vale - the place is deserted.

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Where have they moved to?

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Hey Jethrow... how about you earn to spell...... John McConaghy has been around Mona Vale as long as you have..... in fact you probably once sailed a McConaghy built moth.

:P Yeah, being as technologically advanced as I am I typed a heading for the pic, meaning to fix it and then just posted.

 

In other sad news I hear that the Mona Vale factory is moving :(

 

 

Yep, McConaghy has already moved out of Mona Vale - the place is deserted.

 

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9-11 Tatura Avenue

2250 Gosford, New South Wales

is that the old boatspeed yard?

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Well that's going to make it harder for 'exclusive "breaking news" spying' in the future !!

 

I bet the loyal local staff (and the real geniuses) are not too impressed...

 

or they didn't move ...... that could hurt in the future. :ph34r::ph34r:

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Hey Jethrow... how about you earn to spell...... John McConaghy has been around Mona Vale as long as you have..... in fact you probably once sailed a McConaghy built moth.

:P Yeah, being as technologically advanced as I am I typed a heading for the pic, meaning to fix it and then just posted.

 

In other sad news I hear that the Mona Vale factory is moving :(

Yep, McConaghy has already moved out of Mona Vale - the place is deserted.

 

whW7aDudf5R.png

 

 

9-11 Tatura Avenue

2250 Gosford, New South Wales is that the old boatspeed yard?

Boatspeed were further west at Somersby

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I just hope the keep the interior intact. Amazing.

They are. And they are keeping the old boat for the time being as well.

LB doesn't he already have 2 and so this is #3 Jack?

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