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Doug Lord

Voilavion 16' Foiler

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Beautiful boat, looks well executed, but not sure that tilting mast+simple belong in one sentence? They also specify A-class/F18 Cirrus R, which is rather confusing, along with the "standard Cirrus spares"...nothing on that boat looks like a standard Cirrus anything, except maybe the main sheet? Regardless, some videos would be great to show the stability and overall sailability of the platform, the width certainly makes it attractive for those who may not want to trapeze! One sail is also pretty simple!

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200 kg isn't light either.

 

Some photos show 2 wands per hull and others only show 1. Any idea what the final setup will be?

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Impressive width at 14' too. The F18 beam is normally 8'6". It definitely looks like F18 hulls which would explain the 200kg. The F18 is 180kg. Good for cost control and if they can get it to foil in a stable way in light-ish airs, why not?

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Is it just me or is this thing quickly going to get nicknamed "violation"?

 

Mex

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Wow (and not in a good way!)

 

How many places are there where a 14 foot wide cat can be comfortably launched and sailed? I am also not a great fan of big bits sticking out from the side of boats, like the extended front beam. I can see the appeal as a single hander, but as a boat for 2 or 3, after the initial buzz of being a passenger, what's in it for the "crew"? As a single hander, 200 kgs with a 36 foot mast to manage on your own is going to be "interesting". I cannot see how his becomes a mass market boat.

 

It is interesting for a few reasons. The position of the foils and main beam is way ahead of anything we have seen recently and that will be watched with interest by many, while the canting rig is also something that will spark interest. So a cool project, but it seems to me to be flawed.

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Is it just me or is this thing quickly going to get nicknamed "violation"?

 

Mex

I thought it was just you :-)... until even google search got it like that. Yes I think they fucked up with that name

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