bgytr 329 #1 Posted April 25, 2017 How's the 105 class been holding up? Was doing a quick scan of 105s on yachtworld and prices seem lower by quite a bit compared to 5 or so years ago. Just curious, still a great boat for decent local one design if the class is still good.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodshot 79 #2 Posted April 25, 2017 currently 13 boats for BIRW and their East Coast Championships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skaf 11 #3 Posted April 25, 2017 Going great out here in SF Bay, 20+ boats on the line at any given regatta. Couple new owners in the fleet, and a couple more show up out of hiding for less competitive regattas like midwinters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proOC 49 #4 Posted April 28, 2017 We will get 10+ for our NOOD regatta in June. Plenty more on the Great Lakes but many do not race. Has to be upwards of 20+ 105's on Lake MI. Race to Mackinac 2017 20 boats and counting. Black Diamond out of MI City? Why ORR section vs 1 design start? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wet Spreaders 142 #5 Posted April 28, 2017 21 registered for this weekend's event at the SFYC. We see 3 or 4 boats turn over each year - which is healthy. I've been racing Fleet One since 2005. Of the 21 boats registered, 3 have been with the fleet longer than me. 13 of the boats have been regulars for longer than me. So, we have about 80% owner and 40% boat turn-over in 15 years. There were 64 known J105s in and around the SF Bay in 2012 when we counted them, about 40% race in Fleet One at some point during the season. A few more like to do only PHRF or short-handed SSS races and about half are AWOL. Where else can you participate in a +20 OD keelboat boat fleet 10 times a year? The fleet is very healthy and the biggest on the bay. Other smaller boats have excellent fleets with good racing: Knarr, Folkboat, Express27, I race SSS under PHRF from time to time and the Express drivers are really hard to beat. The Knarrs have a reputation for being spectacularly good tactical sailors, and the Folkboat fleet is really friendly. I still like my J105, though - it's been a great platform for fun with a crew and also with my kids when they were little - it's big enough not to be scary and has light enough loads that they could drive it when they were quite small. Contrary to what most people do, I bought mine when I found out that my wife was pregnant (most people sell up when they get their kids). My happiest times with my boys have been on the boat teaching them thinking skills, being responsible for an important task and having patience, building confidence and working with them to a shared goal. Priceless. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J24Soup 0 #6 Posted May 18, 2017 Doing great in the Pacific NW. 3 just had a Division in the Oregon Offshore (with some good finishes in another downwind run), 7 are doing the Swiftsure Race, ~15 expected at Whidbey Island Race Week, and lots of events up in Seattle with 8-10+. Four now in Stumptown (Portland) which is fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Dawn 20 #7 Posted May 18, 2017 Very healthy j105 fleet in Naptown and the Chesapeake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surf nazi 91 #8 Posted May 19, 2017 Had 22 for the naptown noods with teams from canada and bermuda. Looked pretty healthy to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SF20kts+ 1 #9 Posted June 2, 2017 I just brought a great 105 up from Long Beach and am now busy bringing up the rear in SF Bay Fleet 1 races, a newb to OD racing. 20 boats on the Cityfront coming off the line? Love it and will be doing this for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadlock 18 #10 Posted November 23, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 9:59 PM, SF20kts+ said: I just brought a great 105 up from Long Beach and am now busy bringing up the rear in SF Bay Fleet 1 races, a newb to OD racing. 20 boats on the Cityfront coming off the line? Love it and will be doing this for a long time. I'll be racing you for not last place this spring! The prices are coming down and that means young blood can begin thinking about buying in. That includes me. With my budget I don't expect to crack the top two thirds of the fleet but we're doing our part to drink the beer after the sailing is done for the day. We had 16 in November for midwinters in SF two weeks ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 2,905 #11 Posted November 23, 2017 Sondes heathey to me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footlong 53 #12 Posted November 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, Snaggletooth said: Sondes heathey to me! I'm pretty healthy except my back hurts a bit. Happy Thanksgiving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 2,905 #13 Posted November 24, 2017 2 hours ago, footlong said: Happy Thanksgiving Saime to you an youres buddey! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CA Distress 1 #14 Posted December 28, 2017 In addition to the West Coast, Gulf Coast, Chicago / Midwest, and New England, the Western LIS could have 10 boats for Thurs nights this year. Huntington has 4-5 on Wed nights. NY Harbor has a full fleet, Raritan Bay has a fleet. The J105 as a one design class is relatively healthy. Great boat, the only problem is the pre-scrimp boats are fast because they are light. Yes, most have corrector weights, but the weight is placed mid-ship, giving them an unfair advantage. If all the boats were level, it would strengthen the class. The Class brass should step up and level all the boats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centurion 2 #15 Posted December 30, 2017 J 105 Fleet 4 has 21 boats for the 2018 season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 2,905 #16 Posted December 30, 2017 Thast verrey goode! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proOC 49 #17 Posted January 4, 2018 Would like to see over 25+ boats this year for the Race to Mackinac 2018. Timing seems good for out of towners' based on the event itself and the North Americans are to follow in a beautiful venue, Harbor Springs, MI. Lets top fleet 4 and get everyone out this summer. We also need to compile a list of possible charters'. We have out of town boats and crew that have expressed interest in racing here mid summer but would like the option of chartering vs bringing their own boat. I see so many 105's swinging on cans in Monroe and docked in slips that never get used so spread the good word about our upcoming events and let's see some new faces and racers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt DI 13 #18 Posted January 17, 2018 We're gonna have at least 6 at Charleston Race Week this year. So any of you from up north want to come down for a little early spring racing it's worth the trip. "Ruckus" USA 239 pm me if you have any questions Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footlong 53 #19 Posted January 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Matt DI said: We're gonna have at least 6 at Charleston Race Week this year. So any of you from up north want to come down for a little early spring racing it's worth the trip. "Ruckus" USA 239 pm me if you have any questions Matt Where are the 105's racing? Inside or out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt DI 13 #20 Posted January 17, 2018 Racing for the 105's is outside. we had a blast last year big breeze for the first 2 days then it eased off on Sunday. It's a bit of a hike but I think it's worth it. I am a homer though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Svanen 348 #21 Posted January 20, 2018 The country club is home to Fleet #4, which as Centurian said has a good number of boats. It's an active racing scene, as demonstrated by this report of a recent regatta. My sense is that over the J/105s are still healthy. See generally the Fall 2017 Newsletter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tannerri 1 #22 Posted October 3, 2018 Seen one for sale in Nova Scotia this morning, seems like a good price . https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/annapolis-valley/j-105-sailboat/1375283079?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wet Spreaders 142 #23 Posted October 4, 2018 28 J105s in this year's BBS. Check out the video - J105 start at 2:00 mins. As a racer, you'd have to be dead not to want to have been there.... Not sure why SA likes to download the top half of the video when I paste the link and then refuse to actually provide a link. Here's another way that might work Click here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footlong 53 #24 Posted October 5, 2018 21 entered at American Fall Series Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadlock 18 #25 Posted January 26, 2019 I was checking entries for Three Bridge Fiasco, a popular ~25 mile single/doublehanded race (mostly doublehanded) held in January; we have eighteen 105s registered for 2019's race, and fifteen started in the 2018 edition. Not nearly as strong as the Moore 24 and Express 27 fleets, but close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackolantern 449 #26 Posted January 27, 2019 They're economical, easy to sail, relatively fast boats. The places where the class has dwindled and died was because of cheating and deliberate unsportsmanlike conduct by certain class executives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footlong 53 #27 Posted March 19, 2019 15 entered for BIRW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wet Spreaders 142 #28 Posted April 20, 2019 27 for JFEST 2019 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biglebroski 11 #29 Posted April 22, 2019 frequently get ~10 for wed night buoy race Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadlock 18 #30 Posted December 17, 2019 By my count 22 J/105 on the line this last Saturday for regatta pro December edition. Not bad for 50F day in the winter season in San Francisco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcus brutus 20 #31 Posted December 19, 2019 Interested in purchasing a J/105, but none of the listed in SA Classifieds or with brokers. If anyone knows a private party selling a J/105 please PM me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cristoforo 345 #32 Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, marcus brutus said: Interested in purchasing a J/105, but none of the listed in SA Classifieds or with brokers. If anyone knows a private party selling a J/105 please PM me. why no broker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcus brutus 20 #33 Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Cristoforo said: why no broker? Because : I am more than sufficiently experienced in purchasing and selling boats, most of the J/105 listings are available on the internet, and I do not want to pay a higher price due to broker's commission. Having said that, I would consider paying broker a finders fee if and when I purchased a boat that he/she found for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trimfast 71 #34 Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 4:49 PM, marcus brutus said: Because : I am more than sufficiently experienced in purchasing and selling boats, most of the J/105 listings are available on the internet, and I do not want to pay a higher price due to broker's commission. Having said that, I would consider paying broker a finders fee if and when I purchased a boat that he/she found for me. so tell us your feelings about real estate agents 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcus brutus 20 #35 Posted December 24, 2019 4 hours ago, trimfast said: so tell us your feelings about real estate agents How often does a listing agents advise their clients, the sellers, to reject buyer's offer in order to get a higher one compared to the "first offer is usually the best offer; take the money and run" advice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Set 200 #36 Posted December 26, 2019 i got a pitch for Silicon Valley: Redfin, but for yachts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myouri 7 #37 Posted January 23, 2020 We are starting to get a fleet in Buffalo NY. 2018 1 boat 2019 2 boats 2020 5 boats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Champlain Sailor 275 #38 Posted January 27, 2020 We are seeing similar growth on Lake Champlain at LCYC: 2018 2 Boats 2019 3 Boats 2020 4 Boats And there is another 105 sailed further South on the Lake that joins us for many of our weekend races. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadlock 18 #39 Posted February 7, 2020 How does one adjust forestay tension on the J/105? All the tuning guides say to do it, but not how. Do we need to remove the roller furler to adjust a turnbuckle near the deck? Should forestay be tensioned when the shrouds are loose, or after shrouds are tensioned?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wet Spreaders 142 #40 Posted February 7, 2020 Forestay is a little bit "set and forget" once you decide on what the general weather is going to be like. If it's going to be really light air, then generally shorter. If it's going to be usually heavy air, then generally longer (old "class max" or perhaps a little more). We change ours twice a year - winter and summer settings. Once you have the forestay and rake "right" for the conditions, you do all the other tuning using the mains. You set the lowers and mids to manage overbend and sag under backstay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadlock 18 #41 Posted February 7, 2020 Agree, there are several threads here on why/when to adjust. Ours appears to be saggy/floppy to the point that it's impacting our ability to point effectively, and probably needs to be tightened slightly. HOW do I adjust it? Remove furler drum and then attack the (assumed) turnbucket? Or can it be adjusted without climbing the mast and/or disassembling the drum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proOC 49 #42 Posted February 12, 2020 Step One: Check Mast Butt Position The measurement from the front of the forward bulkhead to the aft face of the mast should be 24.46cm (9 5/8”). This is very close to the center of the step. For the HA sails, the mast butt should be 26.00cm (10 1/4”) from the bulkhead. We check it and leave it all summer. We do check all the numbers after the boat is launched, measuring all the dim's and then working it from there. Yes, you need to be below the drum where the stem meets the sheerline. Can't miss the big nut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadlock 18 #43 Posted February 26, 2020 There are five double handed boats for SF SSS Corinthian this weekend, possibly 6 or 7. That means we should qualify for a one design class start in a double handed regatta, the first I've seen on the bay: https://www.jibeset.net/entrylist.php?A00=JACKY_T005756949&A01=748d3a7e72efb82de2c7e761f71d8c33&T=1582752057&SORT=df 2020 3BF only had 15 entries this year but it was foretasted (also: was) to be a foggy drifter, which may have had a significant impact on turnout. On 2/12/2020 at 10:58 AM, proOC said: Yes, you need to be below the drum where the stem meets the sheerline. Can't miss the big nut. Thanks, we found it. Removed the pin at the bottom, four bolts at the top/front and it slid right up and adjusted easily. Stay sag has been reduced to about what the tuning guides recommend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surf nazi 91 #44 Posted March 3, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 4:25 PM, Wet Spreaders said: Forestay is a little bit "set and forget" once you decide on what the general weather is going to be like. If it's going to be really light air, then generally shorter. If it's going to be usually heavy air, then generally longer (old "class max" or perhaps a little more). We change ours twice a year - winter and summer settings. Once you have the forestay and rake "right" for the conditions, you do all the other tuning using the mains. You set the lowers and mids to manage overbend and sag under backstay You're backwards. Light air you go with longer forestay ( more sag, more helm ), heavy air shorter and therefore tighter headstay ( less sag, less helm ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
some dude 162 #45 Posted March 4, 2020 22 hours ago, surf nazi said: You're backwards. Light air you go with longer forestay ( more sag, more helm ), heavy air shorter and therefore tighter headstay ( less sag, less helm ). Yeah but that adjustment is a PITA and not possible to do away from the dock, so you better feel real good about your forecast. Like shorten it for San Francisco in the summer (and put the short backstay on), and put it back to base for everywhere else. You really really dont want to be caught with the rig overcooked in that boat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surf nazi 91 #46 Posted March 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, some dude said: Yeah but that adjustment is a PITA and not possible to do away from the dock, so you better feel real good about your forecast. Like shorten it for San Francisco in the summer (and put the short backstay on), and put it back to base for everywhere else. You really really dont want to be caught with the rig overcooked in that boat The adjustment is not difficult at all. I just tell the foredeck to do it and hurry it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadlock 18 #47 Posted March 4, 2020 Once we took everything apart and adjusted it 2-3 times, knocking off all the accumulated sea crud, everything came apart and went back together easy the third time. You probably want some spare bolts for when one goes over the side, but it's probably doable on the water in calm seas. I wouldn't super recommend doing it away from the dock. We had some pretty unusually gusty conditions, 30+ last weekend, very glad we took the time to tighten up the forestay, was flopping 6-8", now it's closer to 3-4", jib functions as expected now without any oscillation in the forestay headed upwind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
some dude 162 #48 Posted March 5, 2020 10 hours ago, surf nazi said: The adjustment is not difficult at all. I just tell the foredeck to do it and hurry it up. Lol now you tell me! Bring extra wrenches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skaf 11 #49 Posted April 23, 2020 Box end wrenches are handy as you can string them all together and snap shackle them to the stay to keep them onboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites