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Polish Sailor

SY Sassy, Palmer Johnson Maxi 78 ft by Ron Holland for Dutch Schmidt

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So, today I have got some question about sails and rigging.

EVERYBODY HOW KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT MAST, RIGGING AND SAILS... Check it and please send to me some tips.

1. Did you use the sensor of tension on the back stay and stay. Do you have got any information about it. (nowa days on boat is no panels and electrical cable, and I'm thinking that those sensors could be important to sailing. Should I refit that sensors? Are they important?

2. How big (sq m) was your super flanker  (twin head sail)  and spinnaker and is it here someone how use it after 2002? (after changing mast)

3. How high was original mast (from deck to top), I'm not sure that "new" mast (from 2002) is enough good, high and strong for those sails. 

4. On board we have got few extra booms. One of them is in two pieces and it is made from aluminium, this length is about 30 ft. When did you used it? Did you used it only to super flanker?
4.1 which booms did you used to super flanker.

5.  and another extra boom is made from carbon fiber, did you used to spinnaker? this one is little bit shorter than that one with two pieces.

6. and last one, the smallest one also made from aluminium. the smallest one is about 6 ft 

7. If you have got any tips about mast, rigging and sails, please just write, maybe it will be very necessary tips for me and for new Sassy

 

best for you, woj "polish sailor"

 

I put some pics which are agreeable with my question. 

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czujniki pytanie.jpg

zagle pytanie.jpg

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Sail labeled "Runner" is most likely a spinnaker, indeed.  For sailing deep angles, as opposed to a "Reacher", for higher angles.  Reacher is flatter.

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Pretty sure your twin "booms" are dual spinnaker poles.  I suspect gybing chutes was done by connecting pole to the soon to be new windward, luff and disconnecting pole from the new leeward side.  There may also have been a reaching strut.

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The two piece boom is the spare spinnaker pole. It is in two pieces so that it can be stowed below deck.

No two pole jibs Bay Racer, that shit is for cruisers not racers.

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21 minutes ago, ropetrick said:

The two piece boom is the spare spinnaker pole. It is in two pieces so that it can be stowed below deck.

No two pole jibs Bay Racer, that shit is for cruisers not racers.

Haha. Exactly.

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The 6' smaller pole is probably the whisker pole/reaching strut, keeping the guy off the lifelines.  

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The posts above are correct. The long tubular "booms" are spinnaker poles. The carbon pole is the full race pole, it's a lot lighter than the original aluminum tubes for the same strength. They are slightly different lengths to change the handicap rating that the yacht used to race under. The 'tension sensor' is correct - that is a strain gauge to measure how much load is on the runner. Very expensive & easily broken - remove them.

    ALL of your spinnakers are flown (normally) off the end of the spinnaker pole. The 'super flanker' is a heavy nylon cloth (the 2.5 on the label) and is a very flat shape for tight reaching. The 'runner' is also a heavy cloth spinnaker with a "rounder" shape for running deep in heavy air. You can see from the angle of the head patch that the sail is quite a bit smaller than a full sized spinnaker which would have a head patch with almost 170 degrees of angle.

For cruising the super flanker could be flown with the tack attached to the bow. make sure it does not touch the bow pulpit.

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On 5/21/2017 at 5:53 AM, @last said:

Thanks for posting the pic, she was/is a pretty boat.  I believe she is a Pedrick design (not Holland) also built by PJ though (from memory).  Looks like getting ready for paint, wonder which yard would not

take rig down and paint boat inside properly (away from wind, dust, rain, etc).

They probably will. You don't need a pristine environment to grind out the shit and slap on some filler and primer ya know.

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On 6/5/2017 at 0:20 PM, Polish Sailor said:

So, today I have got some question about sails and rigging.

EVERYBODY HOW KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT MAST, RIGGING AND SAILS... Check it and please send to me some tips.

1. Did you use the sensor of tension on the back stay and stay. Do you have got any information about it. (nowa days on boat is no panels and electrical cable, and I'm thinking that those sensors could be important to sailing. Should I refit that sensors? Are they important?

2. How big (sq m) was your super flanker  (twin head sail)  and spinnaker and is it here someone how use it after 2002? (after changing mast)

3. How high was original mast (from deck to top), I'm not sure that "new" mast (from 2002) is enough good, high and strong for those sails. 

4. On board we have got few extra booms. One of them is in two pieces and it is made from aluminium, this length is about 30 ft. When did you used it? Did you used it only to super flanker?
4.1 which booms did you used to super flanker.

5.  and another extra boom is made from carbon fiber, did you used to spinnaker? this one is little bit shorter than that one with two pieces.

6. and last one, the smallest one also made from aluminium. the smallest one is about 6 ft 

7. If you have got any tips about mast, rigging and sails, please just write, maybe it will be very necessary tips for me and for new Sassy

 

best for you, woj "polish sailor"

 

I put some pics which are agreeable with my question. 

bomy.jpg

czujniki pytanie.jpg

zagle pytanie.jpg

The Super Flanker is a very tight cut reaching spinnaker, flown from a spinnaker pole very low.  

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Polish,

 I envy your determination and drive to get up to speed w your new boat, but w all due respect, you should be asking these questions to pro riggers and sailmakers, not interweb trolls like us.

  your boat is extremely powerful and in certain conditions dangerous to the people on board.  Based on the questions you are asking, you need some pro help!

 you should be interviewing experienced captains and BN's to get you up to speed and assure you're running a safe program.

  Btw,  yes, a runner is a spinnaker!

 

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10 hours ago, Raked Aft\\ said:

Polish,

 I envy your determination and drive to get up to speed w your new boat, but w all due respect, you should be asking these questions to pro riggers and sailmakers, not interweb trolls like us.

  your boat is extremely powerful and in certain conditions dangerous to the people on board.  Based on the questions you are asking, you need some pro help!

 you should be interviewing experienced captains and BN's to get you up to speed and assure you're running a safe program.

  Btw,  yes, a runner is a spinnaker!

 

Pretty sure the SA trolls are the pro riggers and sailmakers.

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16 hours ago, MauiPunter said:

Pretty sure the SA trolls are the pro riggers and sailmakers.

  I've been on these boards long enough to know there are some of the best riggers and sail makers in the biz chiming in.

That being said, there is a big difference between replying to some questions and photos from an apparent novice owner, to actual on hand sound advise from said pro's.

 Sassy is a powerful handful even to experienced sailors, and given she is going back in service with relatively unknown systems and rigging, proper supervision of the commissioning and sea trials should be undertaken.  Online advise by the pro's lurking in this joint is no substitute.

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Good advice - that boat is a lot more than "a powerful handful even to experienced sailors" - it is chock full of deadly forces. Boats that size can kill or maim people in a heartbeat.

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Here's a pic of Sassy's deck after they lost the mast on the Chi-Mac in 2002. I think I remember hearing that a runner block came out of the deck, took off a guy's finger.

That was one wild race!

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9 hours ago, teamrecess said:

Here's another pic, hard to see the deck. In the background is Dolphin. You can see the PFD hanging on the boom where it broke in half.

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I was on AirWaves NM 43 that year. That's us rafted 4 boats out on the coal dock...

Alice is outside of us with PainKiller 4

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15 hours ago, teamrecess said:

Here's another pic, hard to see the deck. In the background is Dolphin. You can see the PFD hanging on the boom where it broke in half.

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I was there, thats me sitting on Dolphins pushpit. It was wild to see the broken boom flying around in that wind.

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Hi, I need to buy special sea valve which are available only in USA and NZ (also I have to put new shaft seal but I found it France).

so my question is: is it here someone which is coming to Europe in next week and could help me? I'm asking because normal shipment is coming to Europe more than 3 weeks and I don't want make so long break. (It will be great if someone could pick it up to Europe. after that I could send driver which deliver this part from somewhere in Europe to Poland, but as I wrote above, I can't wait more than 3 weeks for normal shipment from USA to Europe, it is to long) 

best for you.

On board I order few new sails. I will try to put some profiles of new sails. in next week cos I haven't it now.

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Polish,

  again w all due respect, this is starting to sound concerning.

 Do you know what your getting into?  The questions you are asking should be coming from people three levels down from the owner of a 60 footer.

 Please pull off the gas and step back for a macro view of your project.  Spend your money wisely on people who know what they're doing on boats like the one you just bought.

  Your concerns should be which champagne to buy and how many checks are left in your wallet.

   Get some help!

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If he's ordered "few new sails" he probably has a bit of an idea of what he's dealing with. :D 

How much are those things? A years pay each for one of us?

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When Sassy first came to town (first year of launching), they wouldn't give tours of the boat, they wouldn't let anyone raft outside of them.  They seemed not to understand the sharing in the sport.  Never touched the boat but saw it all of the time.

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2 hours ago, Raked Aft\\ said:

Polish,

  again w all due respect, this is starting to sound concerning.

 Do you know what your getting into?  The questions you are asking should be coming from people three levels down from the owner of a 60 footer.

 Please pull off the gas and step back for a macro view of your project.  Spend your money wisely on people who know what they're doing on boats like the one you just bought.

  Your concerns should be which champagne to buy and how many checks are left in your wallet.

   Get some help!

Lighten up on the guy... these things are easily de-powered. They don't have to be, and aren't dangerous if you dial back a tad. Powerful doesn't have to mean dangerous. It's not like he'll be cruising around short handed using a bolt roped mainsail or a Gemini foil with a #1 heavy or full size kites. Plus I doubt he'd be using wire sheets & guy's - who'd ever use that in this day & age? They way these things are set up is very different to their heyday.

There's plenty of old maxi's running around the Whitsundays for 20+ years now, run by very young piss-heads with fuck all (zero!) maxi racing experience in charge, with hot Scandi back packers for crew. Sure, there's the odd rope burn, cut or bruise, but compared to how many miles and frequency they charter, they're pretty safe actually.

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it's done, sea valves are coming to europe.

In this moment I order gennaker, main, genoa and inside (small) gib.

I made refit of super flanker and spinnaker and few others sails which was on board.

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1 minute ago, DavidBuoy said:

Those are draft stripes

I was commenting on the lack of, looks like two full length battens plus four short ones.

What is the current trend?  Are lazy jacks and boom bags the way to go now?

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On 6/21/2017 at 8:00 AM, Rushman said:

I was commenting on the lack of, looks like two full length battens plus four short ones.

What is the current trend?  Are lazy jacks and boom bags the way to go now?

I may be completely off, but I think full length battens in a main of that size may be too heavy.

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A full IOR wardrobe was about 15 sails and for a boat that size it would cost hundreds of thousands of $

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

A full IOR wardrobe was about 15 sails and for a boat that size it would cost hundreds of thousands of $

15 sails?

Let me take a shot at getting to that number of sails and assigning a dollar estimate....

1 Main Sail....$60K

1 100% Heavy Jib.....$20K

1 155%? Light Gen....$25K

1 130%? Med Gen....$25K

1 Storm Trisail....$10K

1 Storm Jib....$10K

1 Jib Top....$10K

2 0.5 oz Spin (Old Spin Technology I know...)  ....$15K x 2 = $30K

2 0.75 oz Spin....$15K x 2 = $30K

2 1.5 oz Spin....$15K x 2 = $30K

 

Ok... I've got 13 sails @ ~ $250K. What am I missing?

 

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5 minutes ago, stayoutofthemiddle said:

15 sails?

Let me take a shot at getting to that number of sails and assigning a dollar estimate....

1 Main Sail....$60K

1 100% Heavy Jib.....$20K

1 155%? Light Gen....$25K

1 130%? Med Gen....$25K

1 Storm Trisail....$10K

1 Storm Jib....$10K

1 Jib Top....$10K

2 0.5 oz Spin (Old Spin Technology I know...)  ....$15K x 2 = $30K

2 0.75 oz Spin....$15K x 2 = $30K

2 1.5 oz Spin....$15K x 2 = $30K

 

Ok... I've got 13 sails @ ~ $250K. What am I missing?

 

At least a heavy #1, a couple of staysails, for this boat a blooper. And I'll guess you are thinking Dacron, because carbon will be substantially more, and these numbers are probably light for Dacron.

 

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1 minute ago, sunseeker said:

At least a heavy #1, a couple of staysails, for this boat a blooper. And I'll guess you are thinking Dacron, because carbon will be substantially more, and these numbers are probably light for Dacron.

 

The originals would have all been Dacron back in the day correct?

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Just now, stayoutofthemiddle said:

The originals would have all been Dacron back in the day correct?

1984, I'm thinking some kevlar may have been involved.  

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An "IOR" inventory would have looked like:

Main

Hvy #1

Med #1

Lt #1

#2

#3

#4

#5

Storm Jib

Storm trysail

Reacher/Jib top

Genoa Staysail

Dazy Staysail

.5 runner

.75 runner

spare .5 runner

spare .75 runner

1.5 runner

2.2 runner

2.2 flanker

.75 blooper

1.5 blooper

22 sails, about 750K$ in today's $$.

 

Edited by JoeO
added storm sails

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1 minute ago, stayoutofthemiddle said:

Def some Kevlar. Is that main Kevlar / Dacron combo?

sassy.jpg

Yep. Back in the early/mid 80's you either had Kevlar panels or Dacron panels, no "membrane" technology, etc. Kevlar used in the "high load" areas, to keep costs down and to not exceed limits of % Kevlar allowed. A couple years later the "tape" sails started to come ot (Sobstadt "Airframe" and UK (nee Horizon) Tape Drive). Note the "rockign" of the panels in the #1, to try to line up the fill-oriented Kevlar to the load path along the leech.

Back the Kevlar did not withstand UV or flogging very well (still doesn't) so typically smaller heavier sails (#2, #2, #4) were still all Dacron.

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21 hours ago, JoeO said:

An "IOR" inventory would have looked like:

Main

Hvy #1

Med #1

Lt #1

#2

#3

#4

#5

Storm Jib

Storm trysail

Reacher/Jib top

Genoa Staysail

Dazy Staysail

.5 runner

.75 runner

spare .5 runner

spare .75 runner

1.5 runner

2.2 runner

2.2 flanker

.75 blooper

1.5 blooper

22 sails, about 750K$ in today's $$.

 

Nice smorgasbord, thank God that in most of my experience I only had to wrestle with about 15 of those.

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it's to hard to have all of that sails, but as you said it's a bit expensive :)

we will have:
new main 133 sqm (dacron or aramid)
new genoa 160 sqm (dacron or aramid)
new gennaker (will be rolled, and we have to put some changes in top of mast) 290 sqm
new inside jib 45 sqm (dacron or aramid)

and we made refit of old sails:
main (dacron)
genoa
superflanker (twin head sails)
runner (spinnaker)
storm trysail
storm jib

and we have got also
old main (yellow one, that which you can see on pics from 1984)
and 5 more sails.

so we will see how fast will be!
In our working schedule we've got sailing test in October. for sure I let you know how is going. and also in next week I will put some actual pics.
 

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We will be sailing on the world. but not only race. We will be sailing in smaller crew (maximal 15 persons and minimal.... minimal crew will be very small crew (after our sailing test I will give you that response) 

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5 hours ago, Polish Sailor said:

We will be sailing on the world. but not only race. We will be sailing in smaller crew (maximal 15 persons and minimal.... minimal crew will be very small crew (after our sailing test I will give you that response) 

We used to deliver maxi's all over the world with 6-7 crew... 3 watches of 2... the cook didn't do a watch normally, but all on deck for a sail change or reefing.

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On 23 June 2017 at 3:47 AM, JoeO said:

An "IOR" inventory would have looked like:

Main

Hvy #1

Med #1

Lt #1

#2

#3

#4

#5

Storm Jib

Storm trysail

Reacher/Jib top

Genoa Staysail

Dazy Staysail

.5 runner

.75 runner

spare .5 runner

spare .75 runner

1.5 runner

2.2 runner

2.2 flanker

.75 blooper

1.5 blooper

22 sails, about 750K$ in today's $$.

 

Normally there would have been a little wind seeker or drifter for when it went really light & a couple of reaching kites at least a .75 but probably a .5 as well.

And some boats heading for Hobart had a #6 because storm jibs were a lot smaller back then.

At the end of the 88 Hobart we did 11 changes in the Derwent (11 miles).  Had the light, the medium,  the .5 reacher & .75 reacher all on the halyards & swapped backwards & forwards between them on each change.  Not a lot of fun at 3 in the morning on an 80' masthead.

 

TUBBY 

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8 minutes ago, Polish Sailor said:

yes, we was delivering it from Sardegna to Gdańsk (Poland) and on our last part we had 4 person in our crew.

I think it will be possible even for 1 person!

You will need at least one other person to handle lines when docking in the mildest of conditions.  2 or 3 more in challenging ones.

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I would like use that pics (which I put below) I would like to show how Sassy/Julianna/Cheeky/Wild was looking in that days. so, probably I need a permission and now the question to you... could you connect me with the owners of that pics? 

you can write to me on my mail:
wojciechmadej.wm@gmail.com

 

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It was when Sassy had been Wild. and belong to somebody from New Zeland. They Was Sailing on Southern Ocean from New Zeland around (or almost around South Pole) and  after that from Ushuaia to Antarctic and to Spain. ( I think so) 

I prepare pretty nice story of this boat but I have to translate it for you.

So, how know, how is the owners of that pics, cos probably I need permission from them, need I?
 

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8 hours ago, Polish Sailor said:

I would like use that pics (which I put below) I would like to show how Sassy/Julianna/Cheeky/Wild was looking in that days. so, probably I need a permission and now the question to you... could you connect me with the owners of that pics? 

 

 

Pic #7 was by Larry Moran, who posts here under the username "Larry". However, has has not posted for a very long time,

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10 hours ago, Polish Sailor said:

It was when Sassy had been Wild. and belong to somebody from New Zeland. They Was Sailing on Southern Ocean from New Zeland around (or almost around South Pole) and  after that from Ushuaia to Antarctic and to Spain. ( I think so) 

I prepare pretty nice story of this boat but I have to translate it for you.

So, how know, how is the owners of that pics, cos probably I need permission from them, need I?
 

just use them !

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On 23/06/2017 at 5:36 AM, stayoutofthemiddle said:

The originals would have all been Dacron back in the day correct?

Lion had kevlar in racing sailz and Dacron in delivery.

Dacron main wade 250kg, so did boom.

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20 hours ago, Polish Sailor said:

It was when Sassy had been Wild. and belong to somebody from New Zeland.
 

Alex Kafka?

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On 30.06.2017 at 0:41 PM, snaerk said:

Alex Kafka?

yes, Alex Kafka was the owner of Sassy (WILD) probably between 2011-2013 (but I'm not sure). I was talking with him and now I'm waiting for final response. 

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Hey Archytec- Do you remember if the guy standing in front of the wheel is an Aussie called Chris Oswald? 

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On 5/20/2017 at 5:07 PM, madohe said:

I enjoyed that view on a couple of Chicago-Mackinac races as they "powered" past us.....

+100...  Wasn't her demise directly linked to the ULDB boats coming into town.  I seem to recall that she started to tank once Piper started cleaning up...

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On 6/22/2017 at 10:28 AM, stayoutofthemiddle said:

15 sails?

Let me take a shot at getting to that number of sails and assigning a dollar estimate....

1 Main Sail....$60K

1 100% Heavy Jib.....$20K

1 155%? Light Gen....$25K

1 130%? Med Gen....$25K

1 Storm Trisail....$10K

1 Storm Jib....$10K

1 Jib Top....$10K

2 0.5 oz Spin (Old Spin Technology I know...)  ....$15K x 2 = $30K

2 0.75 oz Spin....$15K x 2 = $30K

2 1.5 oz Spin....$15K x 2 = $30K

 

Ok... I've got 13 sails @ ~ $250K. What am I missing?

 

Blooper?

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Good god...  Did we actually wear shorts like that back then and (Gasp) smoke off the transom regularly???  

 

Oh the shame.....

Thank god bikinis have not changed much.....

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Hi, few weeks ago I promised to do history of this yacht.

so I found that information. I'm not sure for 100% about everything (which I put below) so If someone knows more please write in post or on my mail: wojciechmadej.wm@gmail.com

 

THE HISTORY OF „SASSY”, MAXI 78 FT PALMER JOHNSON 1984 BY RON HOLLAND FOR DUTCH SCHMIDT.

SASSY: 1984 – 2002
owner: Dutch Schmidt

The legend of Great Lakes.
The regatta sailing yacht which was many times the biggest race boat in regatta on Great Lakes.
Regularly had started in regatta since 1984 until 2002 such as:
- Port Huron to Mackinac Race (Bayview Mackinac Race)
- Chicago to Mackinac Race
- Bermuda Race

Bet results for Sassy:
Bayview Mackinac Race

1984 - 1st place and NEW RECORD OF REGATTA
1988 - 2nd place
1989 - 2nd place
1992 - 3rd place
2001 - 4th place

Chicago to Mackinac Race
1984 - Royono Trophy (1st on finish line)

1985 - Royono Trophy (1st on finish line)
1990 - Royono Trophy (1st on finish line)

 

JULIANNA: 2002 – 2008
owner: Izydor Ryzak

2002 - putting new mast in Sassy Marine LLC
2003 - crossing Atlantic, cruising to Poland

2003 - start in The Tall Ship Race with Polish crew
2004 - crossing Atlantic

 

CHEEKY: 2008 – 2011
owner: Jim and Judith Lidgus

2008 – cruising from Great Lakes throw Panama Channel to Bremerton

 

WILD: 2011 – 2015
owner: Alex Kafka

2011 – cruising from USA to NZ
2011 – general refit and preparing boat for Antarctic expeditions

2012 – cruising around South Pole (throw Southern Ocean)
2012 – cruising Ushuaia (Argentina) – Antarctic – Punta del Este (Uruguay) – Natal (Brazil)
2013 – crossing Atlantic to Spain
2013 – 2015 stay in Spain (in Cartagena and after that in Alcaidesa almost as abandoned ship, no-one on-board)

(The black hole in history of Sassy in 2015 and 2016. Not to much information about yacht.)

SOFI: 2015 - 2015
owner: Ilko Hristov Pavlov

2015 - using as a weekend cruiser in Gibraltar for short time

SOFI: 2015 (november) – 2016 (november)
owner: Greg Fisher

sailing to Sardegna

 

CHIEF ONE: 2017
owner: Ireneusz Chwołka (with business associate Wojciech Madej, it's me "Polish Sailor")

2017 – cruising from Sardegna to Poland
from 04.2017 – we start magnificent general renovation

 

THAT INFORMATION which you can see above I found.

 Also I found few information on few different brokers website which aren't truth for sure so we have to be careful what we can find in internet about this yacht.

 

and again: I'm not sure for 100% about everything (which I put above) so If someone knows more please write in post or on my mail: wojciechmadej.wm@gmail.com

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On 7/6/2017 at 10:31 PM, LB 15 said:

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Hey Archytec- Do you remember if the guy standing in front of the wheel is an Aussie called Chris Oswald? 

There is something off about the light or focus or something in this picture, it's giving me a weird vibe

 

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36 minutes ago, DarthSailor said:

There is something off about the light or focus or something in this picture, it's giving me a weird vibe

 

Where was this taken? Lake Michigan? Does anyone know the crew?!

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Probably a Fuji film pic.

It always had shitty colour - I never understood why people kept buying it.

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On 5/19/2017 at 1:32 AM, Polish Sailor said:

EASY and VERY IMPORTANT!!!

Who of you saw the hull identification number (HIN) and where exactly is it?
Where (on the boat/hull) I can find HIN, I've got problem with customs search of a ship because they don't believe me that this is this yacht :) and they have to see this number on the hull.

WM

Ron is an aproachable guy 

He might have sum input

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3 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Probably a Fuji film pic.

It always had shitty colour - I never understood why people kept buying it.

yeah maybe but mammel toe and the guy in the red hat look shopped into the pic, the flag is much more in focus than red hat guy. who knows just weird

 

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1 hour ago, DarthSailor said:

yeah maybe but mammel toe and the guy in the red hat look shopped into the pic, the flag is much more in focus than red hat guy. who knows just weird

 

Oh yeah - there are people behind shark tooth girl.

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