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Have they even tested these boats at the upper wind limit to ensure they could handle it?

Today suggests they haven't and that is unacceptable.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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Just now, TheDragon said:

Read noting they don't need the jibs, so why not dump them?

if wind drops 5kts and you didn't bring your jib... oops

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Just now, jaysper said:

Seems bullshit to me. I can understand why Percy is so fucked off.

Dunno, they did go so far out that they were saying they'd over stood the gate. The bit I didn't like was Slater saying, "It probably got to 100's of meters.". Shouldn't he know exactly how many meters it was?

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Just now, LoopyGirdleSniffer said:

How are they trimming those jibs?  Is that done with the hydrolics too?

yep, with self-tacking track too. 

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With all the drama on ART we've forgotten to note that Dean is doing another great job!

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1 minute ago, ezyb said:

I really, really, really hope NO pulls a sickie and sends IP to the press conference today :D

Now THAT would be fun!

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I wish KR would shut up and listen to the on board audio

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2 minutes ago, WetHog said:

I guess the spectator boats are part of ART's penalty?

What a shit show.

WetHog  :ph34r:

Agree

1 minute ago, WetHog said:

Have they even tested these boats at the upper wind limit to ensure they could handle it?

Today suggests they haven't and that is unacceptable.

WetHog  :ph34r:

According to the Austrian commentary on Servus they haven't out of fear to break the boats

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japan have dumped the hulls so many times

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2 minutes ago, ezyb said:

I really, really, really hope NO pulls a sickie and sends IP to the press conference today :D

Percy is the Skipper for ART.  He should be doing the pressers anyway.  Same with Ashby.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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'Design for the expected conditions during the Match, anything else would be stupid' /SF

right?

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1 minute ago, rh2600 said:

With all the drama on ART we've forgotten to note that Dean is doing another great job!

Softbank taking it very easy.

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Just now, WetHog said:

Percy is the Skipper for ART.  He should be doing the pressers anyway.  Same with Ashby.

WetHog  :ph34r:

I agree.  We should all email russell@acea.com

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2 minutes ago, rh2600 said:

With all the drama on ART we've forgotten to note that Dean is doing another great job!

Right. Don't jinx it

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1 minute ago, Rennmaus said:

According to the Austrian commentary on Servus they haven't out of fear to break the boats

Thats what I thought.  What a joke.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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Can't see them racing tomorrow with winds above 25 knots. Great for kitesurfing though! Some of them must be kitesurfers and would enjoy a day off.

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2 minutes ago, Foyle said:

Softbank taking it very easy.

Wouldn't you? :D

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Just now, WetHog said:

Thats what I thought.  What a joke.

WetHog  :ph34r:

GD was right about something? It wasn't just him being a lone-wolf? Whodathunk ;-)

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5 minutes ago, WetHog said:

Have they even tested these boats at the upper wind limit to ensure they could handle it?

Today suggests they haven't and that is unacceptable.

WetHog  :ph34r:

+1

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Just now, WetHog said:

Thats what I thought.  What a joke.

WetHog  :ph34r:

I don't remember having these thoughts watching the '87 races in Freo, up to 30 knots + wind speed....

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Coffee grinders look fucked...

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8 minutes ago, jaysper said:

Seems bullshit to me. I can understand why Percy is so fucked off.

Dunno, they did go so far out that they were saying they'd over stood the gate. The bit I didn't like was Slater saying, "It probably got to 100's of meters.". Shouldn't he know exactly how many meters it was?

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Are art back in it?

No

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1 minute ago, ~HHN92~ said:

I don't remember having these thoughts watching the '87 races in Freo, up to 30 knots + wind speed....

those were real boats and have no place here

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4 minutes ago, DSYHS said:

+1

im betting the kiwis have seen some wind in auckland

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1 minute ago, ~HHN92~ said:

I don't remember having these thoughts watching the '87 races in Freo, up to 30 knots + wind speed....

I did watching the Cup final for AC31.  ;)

ART shore team every time the TV shows something coming off the ART boat:

mueh3c.jpg

WetHog  :ph34r:

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Just now, Sailabout said:

Are art back in it?

Maybe...

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Just now, Sailabout said:

Are art back in it?

No, softbank just being conservative, and managing their boat around the course as safely as  possible.

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Just now, ozchrisb said:

Maybe...

51 seconds behind in these boats is a lot.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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Artis were dead slow while they couldn't gybe (outside the boundary). Surely they lost way more than the penalty(s).

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Seems like hydraulic capacity will be critical, with SBTJ dogging it to a mark without sufficient hydro. BAR's going to have more fun, even if they win their next race

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DB "awesome day!" 

hah!

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Just now, Alpinefolk said:

Artis were dead slow while they couldn't gybe (outside the boundary). Surely they lost way more than the penalty(s).

They never sailed perpendicular to the opp So didnt wipe penalty

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Methinks it will be interesting behind closed doors......... ouch!

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Hey, they do trash bag ponchos in BDA too.  Who would of thunk it.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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1 minute ago, Alpinefolk said:

Artis were dead slow while they couldn't gybe (outside the boundary). Surely they lost way more than the penalty(s)

I'd have thought the penalties could only be paid while in bounds.

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Yeah - Walmart is everywhere......

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1 minute ago, rh2600 said:

DB "awesome day!" 

hah!

Shore team might think otherwise. Lots of sheets of prepreg getting pulling out of the fridge right now.

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At this point (excluding gear failures) we are going to have a ETNZ/Softbank final.

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Gonna be some tired grinders tonight. I wonder if the cyclors will feel better.

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Barker, if the pressures there ill use it, if not il just yell more. 

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Just now, DayTripper said:

I'd have thought the penalties could only be paid while in bounds.

Yes, otherwise you'd go outside the boundary and skip a lot of gybes but still pay off the penalty.

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Given the wind limits, and most of the racing so far, yes there has been some passing, but its almost just watching the pole sitting in F1 like Mercedes, just racing themselves. I really don't find the racing too great, other than the spectacle of the boats going fast. Seems luck of the draw on tactics, and if you don't start well, end of game. I am pretty bored today watching them survive rather than actually race. Hydro pressure issues, is quite bull if you ask me.

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1 minute ago, Alcatraz5768 said:

Barker, if the pressures there ill use it, if not il just yell more. 

hahahahaha

 

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Just now, trimfast said:

Given the wind limits, and most of the racing so far, yes there has been some passing, but its almost just watching the pole sitting in F1 like Mercedes, just racing themselves. I really don't find the racing too great, other than the spectacle of the boats going fast. Seems luck of the draw on tactics, and if you don't start well, end of game. I am pretty bored today watching them survive rather than actually race. Hydro pressure issues, is quite bull if you ask me.

Yeah, its like Monaco out there.  Grab the pole and win.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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? Boundary touched during pre-start results in a penalty?

 

EDIT: And now, it's already gone?

 

Got it, both have touched the B, no advantage for either one

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1 minute ago, trimfast said:

Given the wind limits, and most of the racing so far, yes there has been some passing, but its almost just watching the pole sitting in F1 like Mercedes, just racing themselves. I really don't find the racing too great, other than the spectacle of the boats going fast. Seems luck of the draw on tactics, and if you don't start well, end of game. I am pretty bored today watching them survive rather than actually race. Hydro pressure issues, is quite bull if you ask me.

Same, I would rather see the crews struggling to gybe a masthead kite in this wind. 

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we'll help em a bit this time, ETNZ penalty start entry

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2 minutes ago, DayTripper said:

I'd have thought the penalties could only be paid while in bounds.

Yeah I think you're right but I've never seen anything about it in the rules.

 

4 minutes ago, Sailabout said:

They never sailed perpendicular to the opp So didnt wipe penalty

But it's a VMG penalty. They don't have to sail any direction just lose two lengths.

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1 minute ago, WetHog said:

Yeah, its like Monaco out there.  Grab the pole and win.

WetHog  :ph34r:

hit the boundary when the computer tells you, hit the lay line when the computer tells you.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

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Noth early - offset penalties

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Just now, 167149 said:

we'll help em a bit this time, ETNZ penalty start entry

BAR sais nah we don't need it.....heres one back

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FUDGE!!!

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Both early so they offset, BAR. FUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKCKKKKKK

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PB 'here is a gift Ben.'

BA 'thank  you here is yours.'

WTF

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Fuuuck

 

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tramp borken?

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I wondered how you wipe off a penalty in the pre Start

Now i know

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Well, I guess the BAR grinders won't have it so hard after all.

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"cyclists" glued in like limpets

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Love reading that ETNZ-AUS capsized before I see it on NBCSN.

And holy fuck.  Wow.  Hope everyone is ok.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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so the top piece of teh wing is made from styrofoam cooler material?  good to know...

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Wow - look at that damage.  Glad everyone is ok.

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All my talk about how ETNZ-AUS's stability will get them into the finals and they are the 1st to pitch pole.  Crazy.

I guess Kiwi's can't bust OR fans balls about OR-BDA capsizing their boat in SF anymore.  ;)

Is all that damage across the front beam the fairing?  Cosmetic?

Also got some good shots of the controls inside the Kiwi's boat.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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Sorry for the timing of my last post. My feed must be delayed and then it broke. Thank god everyone seems OK.

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