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Hopefully the wind and from the new direction will settle in.

Is this the last possible day for the Finals?

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9 minutes ago, ~Stingray~ said:

Hopefully the wind and from the new direction will settle in.

Is this the last possible day for the Finals?

That's what I was wondering... If so, then the 1sec delta yesterday decided who goes on for the AC... Crazy!

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1 hour ago, zillafreak said:

Or being at the wrong end of the biggest sports comeback in history...

 

Sweetheart didn't want to rub our noses in it again. Thanks dear!

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3 minutes ago, rustylaru said:

Anyone got a livestream link?

My usual info (getting longer and longer):

First of all: Make sure your antivir is up to date, and you have an adblocker running!

Choose one of the streams here: http://live.robinwidget.org/
A selection:
   http://live.robinwidget.org/static/freeplayer/47507908913020.html
   http://live.robinwidget.org/static/freeplayer/47507908913010.html
   http://live.robinwidget.org/static/freeplayer/47507908913210.html
   http://live.robinwidget.org/streamvideo8/sailing-vs-35th-americas-cup-2017-live-stream-1845137.html
   http://live.robinwidget.org/streamvideo8/sailing-vs-35th-americas-cup-2017-live-stream-2477928.html

If this doesn't work, you can try here:
   https://www.vipbox.nu/sports/water-sports.html
here
   http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-television/united-kingdom/bt-1-live-stream-2017
or here: 
    Look for BT1/scroll down: http://cricfree.sc/bt-sport-1-live-stream-1


The press conferences are streamed here: https://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup/videos

Replays of both round robins, although with German/Austrian common-tree (you may need to get a German IP address): http://www.servustv.com/de/Videos/America-s-Cup
Here the replays of the more recent races: http://www.servustv.com/de/Sendungen/America-s-Cup-2017

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17 minutes ago, ~Stingray~ said:

Hopefully the wind and from the new direction will settle in.

Is this the last possible day for the Finals?

Stingers,

I've heard the Challenger Final has to be decided 2 Days before the AC Match begins that would be Thursday.

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1 minute ago, Rennmaus said:

My usual info (getting longer and longer):

First of all: Make sure your antivir is up to date, and you have an adblocker running!

Choose one of the streams here: http://live.robinwidget.org/
A selection:
   http://live.robinwidget.org/static/freeplayer/47507908913020.html
   http://live.robinwidget.org/static/freeplayer/47507908913010.html
   http://live.robinwidget.org/static/freeplayer/47507908913210.html
   http://live.robinwidget.org/streamvideo8/sailing-vs-35th-americas-cup-2017-live-stream-1845137.html
   http://live.robinwidget.org/streamvideo8/sailing-vs-35th-americas-cup-2017-live-stream-2477928.html

If this doesn't work, you can try here:
   https://www.vipbox.nu/sports/water-sports.html
here
   http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-television/united-kingdom/bt-1-live-stream-2017
or here: 
    Look for BT1/scroll down: http://cricfree.sc/bt-sport-1-live-stream-1


The press conferences are streamed here: https://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup/videos

Replays of both round robins, although with German/Austrian common-tree (you may need to get a German IP address): http://www.servustv.com/de/Videos/America-s-Cup
Here the replays of the more recent races: http://www.servustv.com/de/Sendungen/America-s-Cup-2017

Ok all set.

Thank you again

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1 minute ago, Xlot said:

 

Superyacht regattas: how low can you get?

 

Completely separate event, and in a completely different location. But today may still be the final date for any Finals racing.

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3 minutes ago, Alinghi4ever said:

Stingers,

I've heard the Challenger Final has to be decided 2 Days before the AC Match begins that would be Thursday.

Got a link?

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Just now, ~Stingray~ said:

Got a link?

No Link yet. Trying to verify.

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Wind has picked up again,.. if it holds, they shouldn't have any trouble getting 3 races done today if needed

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2 minutes ago, ~Stingray~ said:

Got a link?

The sailing instructions are here:

https://docs.google.com/a/acracemgt.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=YWNyYWNlbWd0LmNvbXxub3RpY2Vib2FyZHxneDo3MWQ1ZjgxYThhNjY2NDRh

Relevant section is right at the top:

Quote

As agreed with the Commercial Commissioner:

(a) any day where no racing is scheduled may be used for racing if the event is behind

schedule;

(b) that:

(i) the Qualifiers shall be terminated at the end of June 3.

(ii) the Semi Finals shall be terminated at the end of June 9;

(iii) the Challenger Playoffs shall be terminated at the end of June 15.

(iv) The 35th America’s Cup Match shall continue until the winner is determined in

accordance with Protocol Article 20.1(c); and

(c) if behind schedule, the Regatta Director may schedule races missed to be run in the

time after the broadcast window.

 

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Actually it really doesn't matter for Artemis if there is light wind or no wind, does it? They would be crushed anyways. They just made too many mistakes to advance. TNZ didn't sail spectacularly. They just waited for ART to make a mistakes and pounced.

Memo to Burling & ETNZ: If your Strategy is waiting for Oracle Team USA to make mistakes like they did in AC 34 at the beginning you're really in a bad spot.

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1 minute ago, ~Stingray~ said:

Thanks jawjaw

At the end of June 15. That means as I stated above they'll have until Thursday to complete it IF NEEDED.

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1 minute ago, Alinghi4ever said:

At the end of June 15. That means as I stated above they'll have until Thursday to complete it IF NEEDED.

Yep. But hopefully we get (up to) 3 competitive races run today.

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Just now, ~Stingray~ said:

Yep. But hopefully we get (up to) 3 competitive races run today.

Competitive? ART is done in light air IMO.

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challengers have to be good across the whole wind range to get to the finals, which requires design compromises - did AR not plan for the lighter wind forecast years ago in the latter part of the event??

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1 minute ago, Alinghi4ever said:

Competitive? ART is done in light air IMO.

I wish it was best of 11 or something. If Art gets knocked out today I will be sad even as a TNZ fan. There's just not enough racing in this cup. Race course to small etc.

I wish the format could be mixed up for a percentage of the races, like no boundries for 25% of the races or something to mix it up a bit.

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1 minute ago, rustylaru said:

I wish it was best of 11 or something. If Art gets knocked out today I will be sad even as a TNZ fan. There's just not enough racing in this cup. Race course to small etc.

I wish the format could be mixed up for a percentage of the races, like no boundries for 25% of the races or something to mix it up a bit.

Anything below 10 knots average Artemis is in deep trouble, beyond that they can compete but even then a win isn't certain. Yes, in some ways I'll be sad too BUT Nathan & Iain have only themselves to blame. If you're rounding Mark 1 in first place 6 for 6 and can only hold it together 2 Times to win you're not going to deserve being in the Match IMO.

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4 minutes ago, Alinghi4ever said:

Anything below 10 knots average Artemis is in deep trouble, beyond that they can compete but even then a win isn't certain. Yes, in some ways I'll be sad too BUT Nathan & Iain have only themselves to blame. If you're rounding Mark 1 in first place 6 for 6 and can only hold it together 2 Times to win you're not going to deserve being in the Match IMO.

I don't think blame is constructive evaluation in complex organizations in technical challenges.  

Big decisions were made many months ago that are playing out now. I think Artemis should be proud of there efforts. They have really raised their game in this cycle.

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1 minute ago, rustylaru said:

I don't think blame is constructive evaluation in complex organizations in technical challenges.  

Big decisions were made many months ago that are playing out now. I think Artemis should be proud of there efforts. They have really raised their game in this cycle.

I'm speaking about this Challenger Final. If they hadn't made too many mistakes during racing they could be sitting at a 4-2 lead instead of ETNZ.

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Whats the wind forecast?  

WetHog  :ph34r:

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New to this corner of SA.  Are folks usually posting comments and status updates live during racing?  Stuck in an office/meeting working but could glance at this once in a while... or is there a better source?

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Someone over board on Artemis during practice?
This looked almost deliberately

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Here we go.

I think this race will end it.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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Earth to SA AC...

Anybody got a good source for following written comments live during racing?  Help a desk bound meeting slammed fool out plz...

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What happened to KR and the Rugby guy?

WetHog  :ph34r:

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Burling will never beat Outerridge in the start. ;)

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AR over early in unforced error (will repear Annie Gerdners facebook posts)

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Man, another unforced error on ART.

Would have to think its over in these conditions, no?

WetHog  :ph34r:

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1 minute ago, MR.CLEAN said:

Burling will never beat Outerridge in the start. ;)

think again

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Well ART got to do a ETNZ come from behind, hope for a mistake, it's all over rover

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3 minutes ago, WetHog said:

What happened to KR and the Rugby guy?

WetHog  :ph34r:

+1000.  WTF?

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Dang we just gaining big time 

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NZ put in an extra gybe to pick up more breeze. V. patchy apparenty

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uh mistake from nz

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Just now, ~Stingray~ said:

Game over!

Nope, ART catching up, 5 kn wind

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looks like a huge lefty now

never mind - just light pressure and fat angles on both tacks

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Wow, ETNZ-AUS stuck to the water.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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now art is off their foils

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Just now, redract said:

no Ken Read today on NBC, wonder why

Day off...

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A stand still right now

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I have to go out and investigate a workers comp claim.  I am going to miss the rest of this, and other races if they happen.  :angry:

I am recording this at home.  Guess I will have to avoid this thread until I watch the rest of this race.

Enjoy to those continuing watching live.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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Who is madder if they abandon due to the wind dropping under the limits?

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Are they going to get through another upwind within the time limit? Will they shorten it to a 4 leg race?

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Just now, ~HHN92~ said:

Who is madder if they abandon due to the wind dropping under the limits?

They can't. The wind limits only apply in that 5 min window before the start.

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OK this is boring pathetic really

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Just now, ~HHN92~ said:

Who is madder if they abandon due to the wind dropping under the limits?

They can't abandon.  Only shorten the course.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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bump

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Just now, Rennmaus said:

Penalty for ART, room at mark

 

probably windward/leeward, not room

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Lots of Ashby talking today!

NZ doing 0 VMG for penalty purposes?

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they talking time limit running out.  Saying it will be cancelled, Christ I was off the belief that once the race started that was it.

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