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Did you guys catch the Criterium du Dauphine? It was a heartbreaker for Richie but he looked mighty strong. Jakob Fugelsong is a beast.

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My NBC Gold app came up for renewal and they want $40 instead of the $10 I paid last TDF.   WTF?  

Looks like I miss Richie winning his first Tour.   That TT he put in at Dauphine I would think has Froome wondering about his own level.

Richie, Pinot and Froome on the podium - prolly in that order.

Quintana?  Major wildcard here.   Can he pull two GT podiums?

 

 

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You mean like what happened on the last stage of Dauphine ?

Apparently they were all back at the hotel watching Oprah and eating Ho-Ho's on the sofa

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Yea, Fuglsang might make the jump this year.  

Note his form in the interview:  maintains eye contact/yaks it up while he disengages ear bud, doffs helmet, brushes mop back, hat on & shades perfectly arranged.   Pro Moves.

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1 hour ago, dorado said:

You mean like what happened on the last stage of Dauphine ?

Apparently they were all back at the hotel watching Oprah and eating Ho-Ho's on the sofa

I didn't see any of the dauphine, more a comment on previous difficulties aussies have had to overcome.

 

 

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Never was a lad more alone than Richie on the last hour of the last day of the Dauphine

He made a heroic effort only to come up 10 seconds short and losing the yellow in the end to Fuglsang. He chewed up and spit out Froomy, Valverde, Alberto and others along the way. With no help from anybody

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Froome looked a bit underdone in the Dauphine. Richie looked great, as did Falsgang. Not much between them in the end. In fact if Fulsgang hadn't won stage 5 by the width of his tyre ahead of Richie the overall difference would've been 2 seconds after 29 hours racing. Amazing race.

i think Fulsgang and Aru are Richie's biggest threat coz they're on the same team. As such Richie will need good support in the mountains and that's the biggest question mark

looking forward to it. Also looking forward to hearing Matt Keenan & Robbie McEwen's commentary on SBS for the whole stage every stage rather than Phil Liggert & Paul Sherwin.

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On 6/18/2017 at 6:04 AM, albanyguy said:

Froome looked a bit underdone in the Dauphine. Richie looked great, as did Falsgang. Not much between them in the end. In fact if Fulsgang hadn't won stage 5 by the width of his tyre ahead of Richie the overall difference would've been 2 seconds after 29 hours racing. Amazing race.

i think Fulsgang and Aru are Richie's biggest threat coz they're on the same team. As such Richie will need good support in the mountains and that's the biggest question mark

looking forward to it. Also looking forward to hearing Matt Keenan & Robbie McEwen's commentary on SBS for the whole stage every stage rather than Phil Liggert & Paul Sherwin.

Sky bringing the Big Goats again.   BMC better have their climbing legs ready.

Fortress Froome” also looks firmly intact coming into July. While Sky’s final Tour selection remains undecided, riders such as Michal Kwiatkowski, Geraint Thomas, Sergio Henao, and likely Mikel Landa and Wout Poels give Froome a depth of support that other teams cannot match. Regardless if Froome was still a touch short of his top form, the team looked to be firing as planned."
Read more at http://www.velonews.com/2017/06/news/froome-vulnerable-slow-simmer_440541#QYPbcFODeCICh8qL.99

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Kinda like waiting for the AC to start - we know fuck all about who's got the legs, is Froome a doper?, does Quintana ever get tired?....yadda, yadda.

Almost gone but getting another crack at the BigTime:  Taylor Phinney gets a TDF spot with Cannondale.   Good kid, battling from a ways back to get here.

 

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46 minutes ago, blunderfull said:

, is Froome a doper?, 

Yup. Just like what's his name before him. 

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BUT  THEN THERE’S THIS….
British Cycling is still to provide proof a package delivered to Bradley Wiggins in 2011 contained only a legal decongestant, a British MP investigating doping in cycling said on Thursday.

Former British Cycling performance director Dave Brailsford told Britain’s
Culture, Media and Sport committee last week the package, sent to Wiggins
during the 2011 Criterium du Dauphine, contained Fluimucil.

 But Conservative party politician Damian Collins, who chairs the committee,
said British Cycling had not been able to provide a paper trail backing up
Brailsford’s claims.

 

“It seems to be difficult to get precise records of exactly what was in
this package, why it was ordered and the detail that you would want to know,”
Collins told BBC Radio 4.

“Dave Brailsford told the committee he’d been told by the team doctor it
was this drug called Fluimucil, which is readily available in France, can
easily be obtained and there are no restrictions on its usage. So if it’s as simple as that, why get a British Cycling coach to courier it from Manchester via London to Geneva when you could have just gone to a pharmacy in France and bought it over the counter? That’s why a lot of people looking at this say it looks odd, it doesn’t look quite right.”

The delivery has come under the spotlight after it emerged Wiggins, who
retired on Wednesday, was granted therapeutic use exemptions for the banned
substance triamcinolone prior to three major races.

Wiggins, British Cycling and Team Sky, Wiggins’s former team, have denied
wrongdoing and there is no suggestion they broke any rules.

Brailsford, boss of Team Sky, told the committee British Cycling coach Simon Cope had brought the package with him to France while he made a scheduled trip. The Times on Thursday published a receipt showing Cope’s return trip had
cost £597.65 ($732.39, 699.28 euros).

After travelling to Manchester from southern England to collect the package, he flew to Geneva on June 12, drove to La Toussuire in France and returned to England the same day.

The newspaper said British Cycling president Bob Howden has written to the
committee to explain it has been unable to access documents because they are
“locked down” by UK Anti-Doping investigators.

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does Quintana ever get tired?...

Has he ever beaten the doper? Oh wait, did Froome ever Giro? 

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5 hours ago, dorado said:

If they don't get rid of those grinders / cyclors, we're gonna hear this same crap every America's Cup too.

Some Kiwi posted that one of their guys hit "1200 watts" during a race.   WTF!   Is that Sir Chris Hoy out there?

That the Kiwis would share the power data files is surprising.  I'm too lazy to track that post down but, really, if that # is correct then, yea, someone needs to get some testing going.

 We got a grinding machine in the gym that would prolly be impossible to hit 1200 with your arms.  Don't know what some gym gorillas are doing on the stationaries - gotta ck that out tonite.   Seem to remember that 900 watts was a pretty heavy load for a track cyclist.

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Ok, I take that back about 1200 watts:

"When pedalling at these cadences, world-class sprint track cyclists can produce incredible levels of power: more than 2,200 watts for men and more than 1,400 watts for women. Healthy men and women in most other walks of life would struggle to produce more than 800 watts and 600 watts on a bike, respectively."

Simon van Velthoven is prolly the guy they pulled that number off.   He is a Olympic track guy I'm told.

Shane Perkins putting 2500 down:

 

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Sky Team: Chris Froome, Sergio Henao, Vasil Kiryienka, Christian Knees, Michal Kwiatkowski, Mikel Landa, Mikel Nieve, Luke Rowe, Geraint Thomas.

GT fresh off a hard crash at the Giro

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36 minutes ago, Dorado said:

Sky Team: Chris Froome, Sergio Henao, Vasil Kiryienka, Christian Knees, Michal Kwiatkowski, Mikel Landa, Mikel Nieve, Luke Rowe, Geraint Thomas.

GT fresh off a hard crash at the Giro

Freakin' bunch of moneybags.   Beast mode for three weeks.  W/O the climbing of last year how ya gonna beat these guys?

Kwiatkowski vs Sagan and GVA = real deal

 

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Two time trials this year. If Richie can put some seconds into Froome on these TT's I think he can take the whole thing. All he has to do is ride Froome's wheel until the end. It won't matter if BMC isn't all that strong. And who knows Sky better than Richie ?

Sky is going to have to burn a lot of matches keeping Fleeglestang, Arugula, and the rest of Team Astana in check. They could spoil the whole thing for everybody.

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WFD GT !

Froomie sure took a big bite out of everybody's GC ass.

Superb ride by Marcus Kittel. That's going to pay off big pretty soon. 

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http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-hansen-cycling-grand-tour-record-2016-5/#hansen-is-a-solid-time-trial-rider-too-he-was-australias-national-tt-champ-in-2008-6

!7 is hard to fathom but, the current streak Quintana is on just boggles:

2016 TdF:  3rd

2016 Vuelta:  1st

2017 Giro:  2nd

2017 TdF:  ?

 

Does this guy Ever get tired?

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12 hours ago, scottyMO said:

Sooooo, does anybody got a link for the free stream? For us, the americans?

Yea, I'm looking for deals.  HokuTV has a 7 day free trial offer but after that it's $39.99/month.   

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The Sky boys are off to a great start. They deserve a toast..

 

 

Lance-Armstrong.jpg

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3 hours ago, blunderfull said:

Yea, I'm looking for deals.  HokuTV has a 7 day free trial offer but after that it's $39.99/month.   

Thanks mate, it seems that hulu is likely the best site to sign up for the seven day free trial, but for which seven days will be the ultimate question. My op was from this morning at about 8:30am PST, and by 11:30am I was already watching it (stage 2) for free on youtube without signing up on hulu. So when I sign up for the free seven days, it'll be so I can watch it live starting at 6am

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I've had "issues" before with a company that offered a free trial, cancel before the seventh day, podcast special thing. On the sixth day I was diving through old emails trying to find the one from the company that said, "After you sign up, you can click here to unsubscribe and Not be charged....," but it didn't exist, grumble

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3 hours ago, LB 15 said:

The Sky boys are off to a great start. They deserve a toast..

 

 

Lance-Armstrong.jpg

Except for the fall quite a few of them had last night.

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3 hours ago, LB 15 said:

The Sky boys are off to a great start. They deserve a toast..

 

 

Lance-Armstrong.jpg

LB 15, I love the subtlety  in that picture, I tend to agree

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Data overlays for Phil the Vegan Dork.    Fun climb for most, Phil crushing it.   What a freak....putting out 7W/kg by only training on hill reps.

Hitting 900+W at the end on the 10+percenters.   Wild ride there Mr. G.

 

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http://lancearmstrong.com/stages

 

Confessing I'm close to listening to one of LAdouche's shows.

Outside Online taking no comments on this circus sideshow and with puff fluff like this I do really wanna gag:

"Followers can watch this year’s race unfold through the lens of someone who knows the suffering and splendor like no one else."

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Sagan is a great racer and his win yesterday was impressive as usual, but today the tour should ban him from the rest of the TDF for elbowing Mark Cavendish into the barrier at the end of the sprint, ending Mark's day, almost certainly his TDF, and maybe his career. If they don't throw the book at Sagan for that, all bets are off for bad behavior. If you don't penalize your top and most famous riders, then lesser riders will think that sort of behavior is acceptable. 

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20 minutes ago, TheDragon said:

Sagan is a great racer and his win yesterday was impressive as usual, but today the tour should ban him from the rest of the TDF for elbowing Mark Cavendish into the barrier at the end of the sprint, ending Mark's day, almost certainly his TDF, and maybe his career. If they don't throw the book at Sagan for that, all bets are off for bad behavior. If you don't penalize your top and most famous riders, then lesser riders will think that sort of behavior is acceptable. 

That was a bummer.   Looked like Sagan had him lined up before he threw the elbow.  

Cameras got it clean too, Sagan looks wrong there but, how often will they call that with a big star being the aggressor?

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3 hours ago, TheDragon said:

Just announced that TDF tossed Sagan. Right thing to do. Original 30s penalty was a wrist slap.

Sagan's words at the finish interview was another bad look for him.   Got caught throwing and mashing Cav but begging off on intent.   Yeah, maybe Peter.   

 

America's top GC hopefull moves into 21st in Giro Rosa -   Coryn Rivera in her breakout year.  SoCal local!

(Andrew Talansky in there around 28th or so in TdF but w/o the big climbs I think his chances look slim for a top ten.)

 

Coryn finishing off today's ITT that featured a 30% section.    If you rode around here back in the day you'd see this little girl on a cool little bike following her dad and friends up into the San Gabriels.   Come a long way baby!

Giro Rosa Coryn Rivera

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That's a bullshit move, tossing Sagan out of the tour.

I don't see malicious intent there. It looked to me that upper body / shoulder /elbow movement  is to counter balance the leftward shove at the hip from the collision with Cav to keep the bike upright .

It looked to me that the initial contact was Cav leaning into PS trying to make some room. Cav is doomed to hitting that wall before the elbow comes out

I don't recall much thuggery from Sagan in the past. 

 

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Looking at the footage a few times and hearing Robbie McEwen's take on it I don't think Sagan should've been tossed from the TV our. The elbow came out after the contact from Cav from behind. I don't think the elbow even touched Cav. Front on looks bad but from above it's clear Sagan was slightly ahead of Cav. The elbow did not cause Cav's crash.

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4 hours ago, albanyguy said:

Looking at the footage a few times and hearing Robbie McEwen's take on it I don't think Sagan should've been tossed from the TV our. The elbow came out after the contact from Cav from behind. I don't think the elbow even touched Cav. Front on looks bad but from above it's clear Sagan was slightly ahead of Cav. The elbow did not cause Cav's crash.

Looks plenty harmless from diff angles.   I stand corrected.  

Those guys are so amped at that point in a sprint it's all instinct.   Julian Dean mentions that the elbow flick is a Sagan trademark.   Not intentional.  Cav doesn't sound too bent about it anyways.  That's the way they roll in a tight finish.

 

Julian Dean @ 6.55 on the Sagan/Cav action:

 

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I looked at it many times. Whn cav comitted to sagans right there was plenty of room. Sagan moved right and pinched cav into the fence and threw an elbow. he overdid it and it looked bad and overt. They had to toss him. He does not ride for gc finish and a time penalty means nothing to him.

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The elbow went out AFTER Cav was on the way down. One shot I've seen shows Sagan's lower arm being pushed upwards by Cav's handlebar when Cav started to fall over, which arguably then caused Sagan to raise the elbow by instinct to get away from Cav's handlebar. Once again the elbow did not connect with Cav's body.

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Cav had no business going where he went.  By his own admission he's still feeling rusty tactically in the sprints and sticking his bike into a non-existant gap is more evidence of that. Sagan had Demare's wheel and followed him to that side of the course and then stayed right as Demare swung back to the middle to mess with Bouhanni (who as much as I can't stand him probably had a legitimate complaint about Demare). There's plenty of blame to go around but to pin the entire crash on Sagan is just nuts. 

Then again the officials at the TdF love nonsensical decisions so I guess throwing the most charismatic man in the sport out of the race and completely overshadowning a Frenchman winning the stage is probably par for the course.

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Geez, what a kick from Arugula . ( My phone turns Aru  into Arugula by itself and I think it's funny so I'm leaving it)

Froomie/Sky is looking strong and smart too. Totally in control.

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9 hours ago, CrushDigital said:

Cav had no business going where he went.  By his own admission he's still feeling rusty tactically in the sprints and sticking his bike into a non-existant gap is more evidence of that. Sagan had Demare's wheel and followed him to that side of the course and then stayed right as Demare swung back to the middle to mess with Bouhanni (who as much as I can't stand him probably had a legitimate complaint about Demare). There's plenty of blame to go around but to pin the entire crash on Sagan is just nuts. 

Then again the officials at the TdF love nonsensical decisions so I guess throwing the most charismatic man in the sport out of the race and completely overshadowning a Frenchman winning the stage is probably par for the course.

Claims of Cav's director sportif texting TDF officials and badgering them to disqualify Sagen are about.

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Well if Sky tries to defend the yellow for 15 more days straight AND the other powerhouse teams gang up and attack them one team at a time, day after day, they might be able to wear them down towards the end. It wouldn't surprise me if Sky gave the yellow up for a while to conserve energy.

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4 hours ago, Dorado said:

Well if Sky tries to defend the yellow for 15 more days straight AND the other powerhouse teams gang up and attack them one team at a time, day after day, they might be able to wear them down towards the end. It wouldn't surprise me if Sky gave the yellow up for a while to conserve energy.

Well that was certainly US Postals tactic and it appears that is not the only one of Lance's tactics they have adopted. Having a summit finish so early in the race is stupid and must be very disheartening for the sprinters to be robbed of the chance to spend a day in yellow.

 

Sky and British cycling in general has a bad smell about it. For Froome to win again would be the worst possible outcome for the sport. 

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6 hours ago, Chris in Santa Cruz, CA said:

Unless froome spontaneously combusts or crashes the gc race does not seem to be a race at all. Wow. 

Or his dealer misses a connection...

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there is too much sprinting in the TDF anyway 

there should be fewer sprint finishes, and more chances for the GC guys to fight it out.

 

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Well that was certainly US Postals tactic and it appears that is not the only one of Lance's tactics they have adopted. Having a summit finish so early in the race is stupid and must be very disheartening for the sprinters to be robbed of the chance to spend a day in yellow.

 

Sky and British cycling in general has a bad smell about it. For Froome to win again would be the worst possible outcome for the sport. 

I think the early summit finish was done specifically to make it harder for Sky to do what Sky does, take the lead then lock everything down.  They'd be very smart to use their team of super-domestiques to make sure a breakaway stays away and alleviate them from needing to defend. 

If it comes to it though, they are probably the only team in the peloton who can put their guy in yellow in the first week and get away with it.

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On 7/6/2017 at 11:10 AM, Dorado said:

Well if Sky tries to defend the yellow for 15 more days straight AND the other powerhouse teams gang up and attack them one team at a time, day after day, they might be able to wear them down towards the end. It wouldn't surprise me if Sky gave the yellow up for a while to conserve energy.

I was wondering why Froome wanted to be in Yellow so early on, but watching him over the last several years - I think he prefers leading from the front rather than having to chase to make up time.  

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Sky is built around the strategy of taking the lead and then locking down the race.  Sure we'd all prefer if it came down to the last few stages, but that's not how the team is built.

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I've been trying to figure out who wants the polka dots.  Notice Pinot and Rolland have been losing time in the last few stages.  I think that's on purpose, so that they'll be allowed to go in breakaways in stages like 8, 9, 13, and 15.  I think KOM is their goal.  Maybe also Roglic.  There are 85 pts available on Stage 9, to whoever the best climber in the breakaway is.  Stages 17 and 18 have 65 and 62 points, respectively, but the GC contenders will be wanting some of those because some of the pts are at the end, whereas Stage 9 is mostly for the breakaway.

Majka is an interesting case.  He won it in 2014 and 2016, but my understanding is that he considers himself a GC guy, not a KOM guy.  He'll go for KOM if it happens to work out that way, or if he falls from GC contention, but I don't think it's his goal.  So he's only 1:01 from yellow right now...  which means the peloton presumably won't allow him to go with the breakaway in Stage 9, unless he drops a pile of time in Stage 8.

Of course, it could wind up being that a GC contender like Aru takes it as a consolation prize if they rack up some points trying to contend and find themselves running 7th.

Anyway...  the key moment for KOM will be when the Stage 9 breakaway gets established.  Looking forward to seeing who's in it.

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On 7/6/2017 at 4:45 PM, us7070 said:

 

there is too much sprinting in the TDF anyway 

there should be fewer sprint finishes, and more chances for the GC guys to fight it out.

 

I totally agree with this.  The sprint stages are BOOOOORING!  Its the same formula every time.  A break away jumps out at the beginning, they build a lead of 2-3 min, the peloton does nothing and cruises until the last 60km or less, they reel in the breakaway and catch them in the last few km and then there is a bunch sprint.  On sprint stages, I literally FF to the last 10 km of the race every time because there is never anything else to bother with.  Meh.

I want to see more real tactics among the GC guys.  I want to see them have to defend and attack on most of the legs.  As it is, there are only a handful of stages where the GC is actually contested.  The rest of the time they are cruising along in the pack just staying out of trouble.  Double meh.

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On 7/6/2017 at 3:29 PM, LB 15 said:

Well that was certainly US Postals tactic and it appears that is not the only one of Lance's tactics they have adopted. Having a summit finish so early in the race is stupid and must be very disheartening for the sprinters to be robbed of the chance to spend a day in yellow.

 

Sky and British cycling in general has a bad smell about it. For Froome to win again would be the worst possible outcome for the sport. 

LB - did someone piss in your Wheaties (or whatever the fuck you kangaroo fuckers eat for breakfast)?  :P  Personally I think Froome is the best thing for cycling at this point assuming he's clean, and there has been no indication that he's not.  The guy is just a beast and I love his heart for just taking no prisoners and being able to attack on his own rather than just sit back and defend.  When he attacked downhill last year to get into Yellow last year in Luchon, he showed me that he really has balls of steel.

You must still have butthurt from the LA dayz.  Its sad when every great performance is immediately attributed to cheating.  Don't worry and get yourself in a lather, Ritchie Port will be lucky to even make the podium this year......  

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16 hours ago, Sportboat Jeff said:

LB - did someone piss in your Wheaties (or whatever the fuck you kangaroo fuckers eat for breakfast)?  :P  Personally I think Froome is the best thing for cycling at this point assuming he's clean, and there has been no indication that he's not.  The guy is just a beast and I love his heart for just taking no prisoners and being able to attack on his own rather than just sit back and defend.  When he attacked downhill last year to get into Yellow last year in Luchon, he showed me that he really has balls of steel.

You must still have butthurt from the LA dayz.  Its sad when every great performance is immediately attributed to cheating.  Don't worry and get yourself in a lather, Ritchie Port will be lucky to even make the podium this year......  

Extraordinary performances in cycling demarnd scepticism. The 'assuming he is clean' bit is where I struggle. In 2010 he was an OK TTer who could climb a bit.  He was disqualified in his first Grand Tour (the Giro) for cheating then he joins Sky and suddenly becomes the worlds greatest climber and grand tour rider? Sky had just 'converted' Bradly Wiggens from a track sprinter into a Tour winner. The only 'super champions'  in Tour history that never had a bad day before were LA and Eddie Merkes - both admitted drug cheats. There are many question hanging over Sky. Wiggens was almost certianly a cheat (as well as being a complete fuckwit). The vultures are circling his carrer right now. Who knows if Porte will make the podium? He does struggle at times and had a bad day in the opening TT. 

I guess that happens when you don't dope. 

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Anyway fuck Porte. Tiffany Cromwell is my fav Aussie pro cyclist.

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20 hours ago, Sportboat Jeff said:

I totally agree with this.  The sprint stages are BOOOOORING!  Its the same formula every time.  A break away jumps out at the beginning, they build a lead of 2-3 min, the peloton does nothing and cruises until the last 60km or less, they reel in the breakaway and catch them in the last few km and then there is a bunch sprint.  On sprint stages, I literally FF to the last 10 km of the race every time because there is never anything else to bother with.  Meh.

I want to see more real tactics among the GC guys.  I want to see them have to defend and attack on most of the legs.  As it is, there are only a handful of stages where the GC is actually contested.  The rest of the time they are cruising along in the pack just staying out of trouble.  Double meh.

it's pretty likely the more conservative tactics are indicative of a cleaner peloton, going full beast mode like in the EPO era would most likely just fry riders out of contention.

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Robert Millar.....crazy.

Gotta laugh when I see a guy (Callmejane) cramping on a hot climb.  Tomm he's out back carrying bottles all day.

Some GC pretenders prolly get found out tomm.   Good looking stage.

Kwiatkowski....beast.    Sky just friggin stacked again.     Froome has four/ five guys pulling all day, every day.   The rest of GC guys?  Meh, Sky grinding those guys down.

Contador soon to make his typical pronouncement:  "...the final selection will be .....blah, blah blah"  Get cracking Alberto, you're not on camera most of this race now.

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Fark that was ugly! What a shocker. Fuck it he was going great too.

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Bloody awful crash. Hate to see that. I think Froome has this wrapped up now unless Aru does something out of the box...not like attacking when Froome gets a puncture though!!!

THAT was bad form bigly

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Ouch ! 

It seems like the old days of chivalry are coming to an end. Even Bobke said that it should have been time to attack for Aru . Jens sez no.

I can see both sides of the argument

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Hopefully the French squads will work together to attack Froome and isolate him from his fellow Sky highs. If they don't then this tour is over in the GC before stage 10. Just like in the good old US Postal days...

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Aru wants to win, w/o paying respect to Froome.   Who knows what he knows?   Froome may be a doper and Aru knows that.  Why bother being nice to Sky then?

Chivalry and bike racing?   When?  Who?   Never happened.  

Surprised they haven't rolled out Hinault to explain this "honorable" stuff to us.   LOL.....then flash to Lemond who could really tell you what it's like to get screwed in the TdF by......ummm

....Hinault.

 

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It happened today. They sat up and waited. The respect is for the yellow jersey, not the schlub that's in it.

Contador took a ration of shit for years after attacking Andy Schleck's chain slip several years ago . Still a lot of strong feelings about this in the bike world

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Definitely funny, though much like the HBO mockumentary about Wimbledon, it was starting to grow a bit stale by the end of its 40 minutes.

I felt really terrible for Dan Martin yesterday, that's just shit luck.  You could even see him turn to say WTF to Richie Porte before seeing how banged up Porte was.

All the GC contenders had the same problem though, they knew how much better Froome has gotten on descents and knew how sketchy this one was, so they're only chance was to drop him on the climb, but nobody could make an attack stick.

As for the finish, I was a bit surprised that the other guys in the lead group didn't try anything to isolate Froome on the drag in, they were only racing each other so they could have at least tried to force him to the front.  In the end though Uran put in a super hero performance.  His rear derailleur was stuck on his biggest gear for the entirety of the last 14kms, and he just powered his way through.

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One other interesting story, four of nine riders from FDJ finished outside the time limit, including Demare who won the Sagan DQ sprint, and so they're done for this year.

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Uran's prob with his deraileur - did he wack it in that scrum with Richie or, as some are saying , his batt wasn't fully charged?

That's a Classics rider - climb/sprint with 53/11 or 39/11? -- no big deal.  Ouch.

Froome such a freak now on descents.  

 

Dan Martin one tough hombre.  Have mercy!!

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