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Grand Canard

J/27, newbie questions

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This is my my first sailboat, aside from ASA 101-104 courses, I'm a rookie sailer and could use some advice. 

I just purchased a J/27 from Coconut Grove Yacht Club in Miami, hauled it home to Louisiana and already have a new bottom and sides, now about to tackle the deck. 

My boat is missing all of the T track that according to attached J Boat photo runs from stern to ~3' shy of the bow. Where can I purchase, what is the size and specs?

Regarding other J 27 boat specific replacement parts such as hatches, Windows, companion ways, etc, where can I purchase parts? I found Waterline Systems, but the J/27 isn't listed. 

Any advice will be appreciated.

Rick

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Rick...

I assume that you bought Ranger...Hull #111...the Blue Hulled boat; I ask because I saw your membership update on the Wiki and your Hull # was missing a digit...and Hull #111 was the only boat I knew of in Coconut Grove for sale recently.

As for your question...drop a message to J Boats at http://jboats.com/contact-us/contact-j-boats and one of the Johnstones will probably get back to you in a day or two.

...  Andrew

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Andrew, 

i did purchase Ranger, hull 111, though I didn't know that was its name. The boat hull was absolutely coated with sea life, roughly 5" thick! The bottom was fine, no blistering at all, just some tiny pin holes in the gel coat which were easily repaired. I wonder if all of the oysters attached to the hull protected it, sealed it?

I'll give J Boats a shout, see what they have to say.

Thanks for your advice

Rick

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GC

We have eight J27s here at Southern in New Orleans. If you want measurements or other help, just ask or visit. 

MRW  

 

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22 hours ago, Grand Canard said:

This is my my first sailboat, aside from ASA 101-104 courses, I'm a rookie sailer and could use some advice. 

I just purchased a J/27 from Coconut Grove Yacht Club in Miami, hauled it home to Louisiana and already have a new bottom and sides, now about to tackle the deck. 

My boat is missing all of the T track that according to attached J Boat photo runs from stern to ~3' shy of the bow. Where can I purchase, what is the size and specs?

Regarding other J 27 boat specific replacement parts such as hatches, Windows, companion ways, etc, where can I purchase parts? I found Waterline Systems, but the J/27 isn't listed. 

Any advice will be appreciated.

Rick

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All the T track on the boat is one inch black anodized aluminum track by Schaefer marine.  The original foredeck hatch was made by Bomar.  The later boats had lewmar hatches.  I replaced my crappy old Bomar hatch with a lewmar offshore style hatch.  I think I've seen pictures of the inside of your boat, it was completely gutted correct? I doubt if you can buy much in the way of parts that are specific to the J/27 anymore.  Windows would be easy enough to fabricate using the old ones as patterns.  Same applies for hatchboard.  You can replace the white plastic sliding hatch runners with anodized aluminum u channel from McMaster Carr.  

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Thanks for the info, I found Schaefer T Track can be had in 10' lengths; did the J27 T tracks come in sections or one continuous length?

the inside of my boat is gutted, it's fine though as I only plan to sail on Lake Arthur which is in my backyard, compete in the yacht club races, go sailing with my wife and my Labrador, just have some fun and enjoy life. 

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20 hours ago, Grand Canard said:

Thanks for the info, I found Schaefer T Track can be had in 10' lengths; did the J27 T tracks come in sections or one continuous length?

the inside of my boat is gutted, it's fine though as I only plan to sail on Lake Arthur which is in my backyard, compete in the yacht club races, go sailing with my wife and my Labrador, just have some fun and enjoy life. 

Your boat is missing BOTH tracks that run along the outboard edge of the deck? That part is Taco Marine I believe. I might have the part number somewhere on my shop PC. Be aware that  track secures the deck/hull joint.

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11 minutes ago, F_L said:

Your boat is missing BOTH tracks that run along the outboard edge of the deck? That part is Taco Marine I believe. I might have the part number somewhere on my shop PC. Be aware that  track secures the deck/hull joint.

Yes, both tracks are missing, nothing remains but silicone inside the dozens mounting holes where both T tracks once were. 

Is each T track one solid piece, 20'+ long?

 

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44 minutes ago, Grand Canard said:

Yes, both tracks are missing, nothing remains but silicone inside the dozens mounting holes where both T tracks once were. 

Is each T track one solid piece, 20'+ long?

 

Yes, they are ~20" each. I have 1. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that part number is no longer available. All those empty holes with silicone are supposed to be bolting the deck to hull. That joint was made with 5200 so probably not coming apart but ?????

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HI ! 

I'm a new owner of a J/27 here in California, and have some questions about rigging. I believe we bought Hull #120, previously named Cassandra . I just applied to the wiki pages and yahoo...

I have a continuous traveler line, and while locked into two newly replaced cam cleats on either side, is there a way that I can lock the traveler in place such that it is stationary? is the car that moves along the track supposed to have a pin that keeps it in place? 

thanks so much in advance.....trying to figure her out.

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Jane...

Checked the Wiki...infact you have Hull #20.  Would have to see photos of your traverler setup but no, there is no pin to lock the traveller in place.  Sounds as if you have a Windward Sheeting Traveller Car so it's only designed to cleat on one side at a time.

...  Andrew

 

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ok. thank you so much. 

2 other questions: 

what is the original topping lift design? now I have it as a line from the top of the mast, to the end of the boom, with a bight for at the slip, and a separate, looser one for sailing. 

the specs from J boats say the line should be 34 feet, and then 6 ft of cable, totaling 40 feet, which is 2 feet shorter than the length of the hypotenuse of the triangle at a right angle. when I bought the boat, the line ran from the top of the mast, to the end of the boom, thru one of the blocks, and thru the boom, and was cleated underneath. What is it supposed to be? 

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45 minutes ago, J27HelloJane said:

ok. thank you so much. 

2 other questions: 

what is the original topping lift design? now I have it as a line from the top of the mast, to the end of the boom, with a bight for at the slip, and a separate, looser one for sailing. 

the specs from J boats say the line should be 34 feet, and then 6 ft of cable, totaling 40 feet, which is 2 feet shorter than the length of the hypotenuse of the triangle at a right angle. when I bought the boat, the line ran from the top of the mast, to the end of the boom, thru one of the blocks, and thru the boom, and was cleated underneath. What is it supposed to be? 

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Looks like a standard car, the lock in the middle is the traveler line cleated on both sides,, no pin. I have not seen a 27 with a topping lift as it something to get in the way of the backstay, most boats either clip the boom to the lifeline or use the main halyard when not in use. Extra weight and drag coming off the top of the mast, old school when boats and booms were heavy.

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awesome. thank you so much. I really appreciate the info. 

can the original fuses be replaced on the electrical panel? or do we have to replace the entire panel with the new rocker plastic type? has anyone had success repairing the O.G. set up?

 

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19 hours ago, J27HelloJane said:

awesome. thank you so much. I really appreciate the info. 

can the original fuses be replaced on the electrical panel? or do we have to replace the entire panel with the new rocker plastic type? has anyone had success repairing the O.G. set up?

 

The fuses are standard and easily sourced.  Although a new panel might not be a terrible idea if yours is corroded or cobbled together by previous owners.  

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we replaced the toggle switches and it seems to be set up, traveler problem solved, topping lift set up, we are ready to go. thanks for all the advice. much appreciated.

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