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Alibi Catamarans - Anyone know about them?

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We are in the process of deciding on a pre-owned 2105 or newer performance cat to be purchased mid-2018. 55 to 66' to race a "few" regattas and be a fast and safe cruiser for friends and family. Seemed like a simple task. Primary question is - Does anyone know about Alibi Cats and more specifically are they still building? Our narrowed list is the usual suspects - Gunboat, Outremer, HH or North West cats. Alibi info is the most important for this post. Thanks.

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The last that I heard (I think about 1 year ago) was that Alibi Catamarans (the company) was teaming up with navel architect Renaud Banuls (Banulsdesign) and investor Raphael Blot to build Banuls catamarans. Although I seem to recall that the talk at the time was that Alibi catamarans (the boats) could still be built; they apparently weren't seen as direct competitors.

I suspect that you already know, but I'll relay the following in case you don't: the founder of Alibi is Loic Goepfert. I understand that he is a navel architect, too.  He is French, but the boats are (were?) built in Thailand.

Do treat my information with a grain of salt (an ocean of salt? ;-) ); I'm just a layperson, who happens to have a passing familiarity of the sector. 

Best wishes.

P.s., I have an old specifications sheet (16 pages) for the Alibi 54. Ditto a 2010 article (7 pages, with cover) from a multihull magazine.  Unfortunately, they are both too large to post here. If you want a copy of these, then just send me a PM with your email address, and I'll send you a copy. Sorry, but I don't have the equivalent for the Alibi 65. I've also gathered up about 150 pictures of the two models; also, about 11 videos ... yeah, I'm a hopeless.dreamer.

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Truly appreciate you taking the time for the information - I will PM you for the images etc... very useful. There is a 2015 54 for sale in France. I am going over to look at a couple available boats to include the Alibi. Again thank you.

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I have little knowledge but there it is:

Alibi were present at a boat show in may and ready to sell some boats. Also, the hulls and structures of Alibi cats are made in Thailand then the boats are furnished in France. 

(Sry for my English)

good luck for the following

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I know nothing about Alibi cats but carefully analysing what you really want is important. Many production catamarans boast fantastic performance that in real life may be disappointing.  One of the great things about a high performance catamaran is the  satisfaction of sailing fast in low wind speeds. Many production cats do not achieve this.

Many boats can do 20kn in a gale but that is not always enjoyable stress free sailing. Doing 20 kn in 15 kn of wind is very enjoyable.

I would recommend sailing on many varied boats such as schionning G force 15 (MOJO FOR SALE IN AUS). A turboed gunboat, fuijin (beaker design) etc.

Get any boat weighed before it is purchased. Claimed weights are not always correct.

There are very few production catamarans that are raced successfully.

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Your advise is well taken and our plan involves this process. We will be hiring a Captain as well as I cannot be with the boat at all times - He/She will be involved in our process as well. There are many stunning performance boats being crafted today. Thank you for all your input it is greatly appreciated.

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HI Pura

Check out the Balance 526 ...... made by Nexus catamarans in Cape St Francis, South Africa. Not in the same league as a Gunboat (very little is !! - the more performance you want the more you will have to pay ..... carbon = $$$ :D)....... but this boat does go fast!

Beautifully made by an excellent team.  Waiting list until late 2018 ........ so unlikely that any on the secondary market just yet.

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Thanks for your thoughts. I am speaking with Phil at Balanced this week and without too much of a pun the boat looks to be a good balance in speed and comfort. Again thank you.

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On 7/10/2017 at 9:33 AM, Lambretta said:

HI Pura

Check out the Balance 526 ...... made by Nexus catamarans in Cape St Francis, South Africa. Not in the same league as a Gunboat (very little is !! - the more performance you want the more you will have to pay ..... carbon = $$$ :D)....... but this boat does go fast!

Beautifully made by an excellent team.  Waiting list until late 2018 ........ so unlikely that any on the secondary market just yet.

http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2015/Balance-526-XP-3086498/United-States#.WWzvY1srJQI

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Thanks I spoke with Phil at Balance a few days ago... Very professional and a Balance would be a great option.

 

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Outremer 5X. Cleaned house in the Caribbean and is well priced compared to some others. The balance certainly looks like a nice alternative as well, how does she go in lighter air?

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Very true, I asked about the Alibi as part of a overall look at what performance Cats are out there. I do not want / cannot wait for a build of my own. I will be purchasing a boat in mid 2018. Gunboat, HH, Balance, Alibi or Outremer "seem" to be the options that fit. Thanks for your input as an "old" in every sense of the word monohull sailor much of this is new to me.

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Give the Folks at Harvey Yachts a call.   Phil Harvey is a sailor and master builder who built the first two Gunboats 62's for Peter Johnstone and then was hired by Gunboat to head all production when Gunboat moved the manufacturing to China and NC.  Phil re-opened his yard in S. Africa and is building all-carbon 58'-60' performance cats that look like they will fit your needs.  

http://harveyachts.com/

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I will call him to see if he has anything available mid 2018. Would prefer a boat that has gone through the tweaks after launch.

 

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I did look at your link for ITA - looks like a great boat but we are not interested in a build - Just can't wait that long for a myriad of reasons. We are looking for boats in the 55 to 65' range that are less than 5 years old and performance class Catamarans. Appreciate your information. Thanks

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On 7/17/2017 at 11:27 PM, PURA said:

Very true, I asked about the Alibi as part of a overall look at what performance Cats are out there. I do not want / cannot wait for a build of my own. I will be purchasing a boat in mid 2018. Gunboat, HH, Balance, Alibi or Outremer "seem" to be the options that fit. Thanks for your input as an "old" in every sense of the word monohull sailor much of this is new to me.

I believe there is Balance 526 on Yachtworld ....... for $1.4 with full carbon rig etc. Not sure if Phil mentioned this to you?

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2015/Balance-526-XP-3086498/Fort-Lauderdale/FL/United-States#.WXiOZoSGOM8

 

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I did see the info and spoke with Phil on the Balance 526 - Beautiful Cat and IF the timing is right and it is still available end of the year certainly one to consider.

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It's a great time to buy a Gunboat! We have a new listing (Gunboat 60 "Jade"), a few price drops (Gunboat 57, Gunboat 66), and a few quiet listings (Gunboat 60, Gunboat 66) in addition to what's visible on our website. I'm happy to chat anytime. PM me for details. 

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Excellent video --- I have a few videos on the Alibis' but not that one. Thanks for the info. Very clean lines and interior is excellent.

All the best

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