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1 minute ago, Bus Driver said:

That bar is set pretty damn low.  Like, on the floor.

So low that he trips over the foul line.

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35 minutes ago, Nice! said:
44 minutes ago, hermetic said:

a repub majority senate would not allow that to happen unless pence's hand was really deep in the cookie jar.  which we've heard nothing of

Pence was head of the transition team. I would find it difficult to believe he was not aware of any of this.

keep in mind who flynn originally lied to, and that the other indictments that have been handed down are during the campaign phase

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39 minutes ago, Nice! said:

Pence was head of the transition team. I would find it difficult to believe he was not aware of any of this.

As long as he hasn’t testified under oath he should be alright. That seems to be the stumbling block for most of this crew. They just can’t remember talking to Rooskies (via emails that the feds have).

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2 hours ago, phillysailor said:

I take it, then, that we can all agree.

The 2016 Campaign to Elect Donald Trump for President of the United States stands accused by the United States of conspiring with Americans to enable a foreign entity to influence our national election.

A senior campaign staff member, according to charging documents, did request Roger Stone seek out information from Wikileaks, was aware of the source of such information, and stood to gain material benefit from the transaction.

Furthermore, there were additional communications with Russia over this period culminating with at least one meeting directly between senior Trump campaign staff and Kremlin emissaries regarding items of value to both parties about which the president and his staff repeatedly lied and obfuscated until the truth was discovered by reporters. 

Not unrelated, within days of this meeting, Trump publicly called on Russia to release Hillary’s emails.

The FBI began investigating all this, and when he refused to swear allegiance to the president, then Director Comey was fired, and the next day the President told the Russian Ambassador that had relieved the pressure from that “Russian thing.”

So therefore, we have conspiracy with a foreign entity, secret negotiations with a foreign government, material benefits to both the Trump Campaign and the Russian government (Trumps team altering the GOP party’s stance on Ukraine & sanctions at the convention), and obstruction of investigations with implications to our National Security.

Trump is vulnerable, having just lost a pissing match with Pelosi and accepting a deal he could have had before he substantially harmed the national economy and jeopardized the lives of air travelers and put in financial distress hundreds of thousands (if not millions, given secondary effects) of Americans. 

And Trump is threatening to declare a state of emergency in, oh, three weeks or so, in order to secure funding for a project even Republicans didn’t think was necessary when they had the chance to vote for it.

Does that about sum up the State of the Union? Let’s skip the pomp & circumstance & have him fucking submit it in the form of a deposition taken by the Special Counsel.

But but but. Russians aren’t the enemy! 

Or something

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35 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

But but but. Russians aren’t the enemy! 

Or something

We sold defensive weapons to Ukraine after the Russians took Crimea. That proves that there was no collusion. 

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Here’s a link to that timeline (114 tweets) all in one place, rather than having to find the amongst all the replies

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/jentaub/status/1089193853230505984?s=12

Nope.  Sorry.  To see all of them, tap at the end of a string of Taub’s tweets to see more, for example after #31, tap on 83 more replies etc.

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At least we don’t have to suffer @Dogwriting “no collusion!” anymore. 

Of course it may just morph to some other weasel statement, but where is this going?

The president is politically vulnerable, and the Turtle has gotten everything he wants out of DJT, in the 83 Federal judges and 2 SCOTUS nominees (one stolen from Obama, hee hee)... I’m guessing he still does nothing, just lets Trump wither on the vine providing a buffer until Pence’s fate is known.

No sense sharpening the long knives until you know that killing the beast won’t unleash the third in the line of succession.

Better to pull an Agnew: replace Pence if he’s going down as well BEFORE you chop off the head of the snake that is this administration.

Im guessing Pence’s role is going to be the subject of a LOT of articles in the coming weeks.

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1 hour ago, hermetic said:

keep in mind who flynn originally lied to, and that the other indictments that have been handed down are during the campaign phase

I can't understand why any of the statements about "There Are None" (all indignant-like) haven't stuck to Jeff Sessions. Maybe because he's last week's fish? Maybe because he's already secretly flipped and walked (speculated about over a year ago)?

-DSK

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46 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

We sold defensive weapons to Ukraine after the Russians took Crimea. That proves that there was no collusion. 

Timelines never lie?  

Lawyers.  :)

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1 hour ago, Amati said:

Here’s a link to that timeline (114 tweets) all in one place, rather than having to find the amongst all the replies

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/jentaub/status/1089193853230505984?s=12

Nope.  Sorry.  To see all of them, tap at the end of a string of Taub’s tweets to see more, for example after #31, tap on 83 more replies etc.

Reminding people of what has already been discovered is not fair. How are they supposed to forget those things, so that the bullshit squad can cook nothingburgers?  Knock that honesty stuff off, will ya?

 

53 minutes ago, phillysailor said:

At least we don’t have to suffer @Dogwriting “no collusion!” anymore. 

Of course it may just morph to some other weasel statement, but where is this going?

The president is politically vulnerable, and the Turtle has gotten everything he wants out of DJT, in the 83 Federal judges and 2 SCOTUS nominees (one stolen from Obama, hee hee)... I’m guessing he still does nothing, just lets Trump wither on the vine providing a buffer until Pence’s fate is known.

No sense sharpening the long knives until you know that killing the beast won’t unleash the third in the line of succession.

Better to pull an Agnew: replace Pence if he’s going down as well BEFORE you chop off the head of the snake that is this administration.

Im guessing Pence’s role is going to be the subject of a LOT of articles in the coming weeks.

I think you ascribe way too much integrity to Dog. 

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Just now, Sol Rosenberg said:

Reminding people of what has already been discovered is not fair. How are they supposed to forget those things, so that the bullshit squad can cook nothingburgers?  Knock that honesty stuff off, will ya?

 

 

Me so sorry.....:mellow:

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58 minutes ago, Amati said:

Timelines never lie?  

Lawyers.  :)

is the timeline presented somewhere other than twitter?

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:
3 hours ago, hermetic said:

keep in mind who flynn originally lied to, and that the other indictments that have been handed down are during the campaign phase

I can't understand why any of the statements about "There Are None" (all indignant-like) haven't stuck to Jeff Sessions. Maybe because he's last week's fish? Maybe because he's already secretly flipped and walked (speculated about over a year ago)?

he well could have - he was in it from the beginning.

I think he gets a pass from the media because he stepped out of the mueller investigation and never killed it

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Only the best people, lets not forget 

Hillary Clinton Benghazi Investigation:
4 years
0 indictments
0 convictions

Hillary Clinton Email Investigation:
2 years
0 indictments
0 convictions

Trump-Russia Investigation:
15 months
34 Indictments/Charges (Individuals) (and counting)
3 Indictments/Charges (Companies)
6 GUILTY pleas (and counting)
4 CONVICTIONS (and counting)
Indicted: Roger Stone
Indicted: Paul Manafort
Indicted: Rick Gates
Indicted: George Papadopoulos
Indicted: Michael Flynn
Indicted: Michael Cohen
Indicted: Richard Pinedo
Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan
Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik
Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers
Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin
Indicted: Mikhail Burchik
Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova
Indicted: Anna Bogacheva
Indicted: Sergey Polozov
Indicted: Maria Bovda
Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov
Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev
Indicted: Irina Kaverzina
Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko
Indicted: Internet Research Agency
Indicted: Concord Management
Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn
Guilty Plea: Michael Cohen
Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous
Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo
Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan
Guilty Plea: Rick Gates
Over 191 Criminal Charges (and counting):
Conspiracy against the USA (2 counts)
Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)
Bank fraud (8 counts)
Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Making false statements (6 counts)
Failure to file reports of foreign bank accounts (14 counts)
Unregistered agent of a foreign principal (2 counts)
False FARA statements (2 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Assisting in preparation of false tax documents (5 counts)
Conspiracy to defraud the United States (13 counts)
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (2 counts)
Aggravated identity theft (24 counts)

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23 minutes ago, hermetic said:

is the timeline presented somewhere other than twitter?

In case you wanted a complete timeline of the Trump's, umm, presidency, here you go. Pretty much a log of every day of this debacle.

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/archive/

Their Homepage : https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com

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The indictments and other court filings make a pretty good timeline. Very detailed. Mueller’s people obviously know how to get their report to the public without modification by Team Bullshit. 

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41 minutes ago, toad said:

Only the best people, lets not forget 

Hillary Clinton Benghazi Investigation:
4 years
0 indictments
0 convictions

Hillary Clinton Email Investigation:
2 years
0 indictments
0 convictions

Trump-Russia Investigation:
15 months
34 Indictments/Charges (Individuals) (and counting)
3 Indictments/Charges (Companies)
6 GUILTY pleas (and counting)
4 CONVICTIONS (and counting)
Indicted: Roger Stone
Indicted: Paul Manafort
Indicted: Rick Gates
Indicted: George Papadopoulos
Indicted: Michael Flynn
Indicted: Michael Cohen
Indicted: Richard Pinedo
Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan
Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik
Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers
Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin
Indicted: Mikhail Burchik
Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova
Indicted: Anna Bogacheva
Indicted: Sergey Polozov
Indicted: Maria Bovda
Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov
Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev
Indicted: Irina Kaverzina
Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko
Indicted: Internet Research Agency
Indicted: Concord Management
Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn
Guilty Plea: Michael Cohen
Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous
Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo
Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan
Guilty Plea: Rick Gates
Over 191 Criminal Charges (and counting):
Conspiracy against the USA (2 counts)
Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)
Bank fraud (8 counts)
Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Making false statements (6 counts)
Failure to file reports of foreign bank accounts (14 counts)
Unregistered agent of a foreign principal (2 counts)
False FARA statements (2 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Assisting in preparation of false tax documents (5 counts)
Conspiracy to defraud the United States (13 counts)
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (2 counts)
Aggravated identity theft (24 counts)

........... you got nothing......... (Here Boy!!)

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The new Hillary evidence is about to drop and it will be a humdinger. Trey Gowdy is spending his free time working on it. He’s hoping to get to the bottom of it before OJ finds Nicole’s real killer. 

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I hear Elvis was spotted leaving Treys top secret headquarters 

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Hillary’s emails raise thought provoking questions. 

These charges and indictments and pleas by Team Pootie Poot?  Boooooorrrrrriiiiiinnnnnggggg. 

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1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

The indictments and other court filings make a pretty good timeline. Very detailed. Mueller’s people obviously know how to get their report to the public without modification by Team Bullshit. 

when is the senate going to vote on barr anyway?  he seems to have fallen off the face of the earth

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Expecting Jared and Jr to be indicted soon - of course this means nothing since they are innocent until proven guilty. 

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1 minute ago, d'ranger said:

Expecting Jared and Jr to be indicted soon - of course this means nothing since they are innocent until proven guilty. 

Depends on the Party. In this case, absolutely!

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1 minute ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

FTFY

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59 minutes ago, Sean said:

 

John Kerry at Alfalfa Club dinner -

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/27/politics/john-kerry-alfalfa-club/

  • "Donald Trump could be the first President to go to the inaugural of his successor in a limo with license plates made by his campaign manager."

That's a funny enough line to deserve a better delivery man than Lurch.

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Beware of pending Twitter outrage.

Source: Newsweek

Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff has said that the House Intelligence Committee, which he chairs, will send transcripts of its previous questioning of Donald Trump Jr. to special counsel Robert Mueller so he can consider whether to pursue perjury charges against the president’s son. 

The representative from California made the comments during an interview Sunday on ABC’s This Week. Host George Stephanopoulos asked the congressman about allegations from Schiff’s fellow committee member Jackie Speier, accusing Trump Jr. of lying to the intelligence body. “Do you agree?” Stephanopoulos asked. 

“Well, I’d like the special counsel to have access to Don Jr.’s testimony and determine whether it is evidence of—of false statements,” Schiff responded. “I greatly appreciate the seriousness with which the special counsel takes lying to Congress,” he added, “so I’ll let Bob Mueller be the judge of that.” 

“One of the first acts, if not the first act, of our committee will be to send all of these transcripts of all the witnesses to Bob Mueller so that he can consider whether additional perjury charges are warranted,” the congressman explained. Although he said Mueller already had access to the documents, he pointed out that the committee wants the investigation to be able to “use them for whatever purpose including perjury prosecution or witness intimidation or obstruction of justice.”

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/mueller-perjury-charges-donald-trump-jr-1306845

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Although he said Mueller already had access to the documents, he pointed out that the committee wants the investigation to be able to “use them for whatever purpose including perjury prosecution or witness intimidation or obstruction of justice.”

I don't understand.  He already has them, but for  some reason couldn't use them for that stuff? 

Or Schiff's just showboating?

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34 minutes ago, frenchie said:

Although he said Mueller already had access to the documents, he pointed out that the committee wants the investigation to be able to “use them for whatever purpose including perjury prosecution or witness intimidation or obstruction of justice.”

I don't understand.  He already has them, but for  some reason couldn't use them for that stuff? 

Or Schiff's just showboating?

Maybe telling Mueller that he thinks trump jr is guilty as fuck?

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On 3/3/2018 at 1:54 AM, Sean said:

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. This might be one of those times. 

The Steele dossier salacious bits are looking stronger all the time  

NY Times opinion - https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/02/opinion/trump-russia-prostitute-instagram.html

The Trump-Russia Story Gets Even Weirder

Excerpt -

Nothing exemplifies this more than the strange saga of Anastasia Vashukevich. She is a Belarusian woman, a self-described “sex expert,” who is now in a Thai jail and who claims, in a desperate Instagram video, to be the “the missing link in the connection between Russia and the U.S. elections.”

<snip>

They were arrested there last Sunday, while teaching a “sex training” seminar for Russian tourists in the resort city of Pattaya. (The charges were working without a permit.) From what was apparently the back of an open-air police vehicle, Vashukevich made an Instagram video begging Americans for help. “I’m ready to give you all the missing puzzle pieces, support them with videos and audios, regarding the connections of our respected lawmakers with Trump, Manafort and the rest,” she said, according to CNN’s translation.

<snip>

 

But Vashukevich and Kirillov really are being detained, and, speaking from a police van, Kirillov told The Associated Press that he believes Russia is behind their arrests. He has reportedly sent a handwritten letter to the American Embassy in Thailand pleading for asylum in exchange for information.

Navalny told The A.P. he didn’t know what to think. “Shows like ‘Homeland’ begin to look entirely realistic when you look at what is happening in Russia now,” he said. “We thought the scriptwriters made the most impossible things up, but in Russia the most absurd things are possible.”

They are in America, too. Could a social-media-obsessed escort help explain the degrading nightmare of the Trump presidency? It seems like the preposterously lazy plot of a sub-B movie. But these days, so does everything else in our politics.

 

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I’m sure our Fearless Leader will be demanding her release any day now. 

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purple , not necessary but it's all I've got ......................

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1 minute ago, Mid said:

purple , not necessary but it's all I've got ......................

Sorry, no purple on my iPhone. 

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22 hours ago, phillysailor said:

I take it, then, that we can all agree.

The 2016 Campaign to Elect Donald Trump for President of the United States stands accused by the United States of conspiring with Americans to enable a foreign entity to influence our national election.

A senior campaign staff member, according to charging documents, did request Roger Stone seek out information from Wikileaks, was aware of the source of such information, and stood to gain material benefit from the transaction. Odd that Stone would be on such a mission if the campaign was collaborating with the Russians. BTW...Wikileaks source remains unknown.

Furthermore, there were additional communications with Russia over this period culminating with at least one meeting directly between senior Trump campaign staff and Kremlin emissaries False, there is no record of such a meeting between Trump officials and Kremlin emissaries. regarding items of value to both parties about which the president and his staff repeatedly lied and obfuscated until the truth was discovered by reporters. 

Not unrelated, within days of this meeting, Trump publicly called on Russia to release Hillary’s emails. Please, that was a dig at Hillary for destroying emails under subpoena.

The FBI began investigating all this, and when he refused to swear allegiance to the president, then Director Comey was fired, and the next day the President told the Russian Ambassador that had relieved the pressure from that “Russian thing.” According to unnamed sources

So therefore, we have conspiracy with a foreign entity, secret negotiations with a foreign government, material benefits to both the Trump Campaign and the Russian government (Trumps team altering the GOP party’s stance on Ukraine & sanctions at the convention), and obstruction of investigations with implications to our National Security.

Trump is vulnerable, having just lost a pissing match with Pelosi and accepting a deal he could have had before he substantially harmed the national economy and jeopardized the lives of air travelers and put in financial distress hundreds of thousands (if not millions, given secondary effects) of Americans. 

And Trump is threatening to declare a state of emergency in, oh, three weeks or so, in order to secure funding for a project even Republicans didn’t think was necessary when they had the chance to vote for it. And Democrats did support in the past

Does that about sum up the State of the Union? Let’s skip the pomp & circumstance & have him fucking submit it in the form of a deposition taken by the Special Counsel. No, let's do it the way we did it last year and the year before that....

 

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18 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

I think you ascribe way too much integrity to Dog. 

That didn’t take long to bear out. 

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3 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

That didn’t take long to bear out. 

I was frankly surprised it took that long. The GOP haven't disowned Trump yet, so the Canine Bullshit Squad is still working double-shifts without pay. Shutdown or no shutdown. 

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56 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

That didn’t take long to bear out. 

RUSSIA!!!

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7 minutes ago, Dog said:

RUSSIA!!!

Get used to it. Your nose is going to be rubbed in it for a very long time. 

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32 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Get used to it. Your nose is going to be rubbed in it for a very long time. 

RUSSIA!

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3 hours ago, Sean said:

I’m sure our Fearless Leader will be demanding her release any day now. 

Easing some sanctions is a strong way to make that happen strongly. 

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On 1/21/2019 at 6:13 AM, Dog said:

You said you're not sure collusion is a crime. The question  ask you was whether showing polling data to a foreign national is a crime. You know, the thing that is alleged, is that a crime.

Is conspiracy a crime?

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4 hours ago, SailBlueH2O said:

dripdrip.jpg

They sure are a smart people - decades of extreme criminal activity including probably dozens of murders and not a shred of evidence against any of them.

People that smart should be running the country.

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26 minutes ago, amphib44 said:

Is conspiracy a crime?

I think conspiracy with a foreign government to influence an election is a crime.

Is showing polling data to a foreign national is a crime?

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10 minutes ago, Dog said:

I think conspiracy with a foreign government to influence an election is a crime.

Is showing polling data to a foreign national is a crime?

 

If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that someone has already answered that in the affirmative.....

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7 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

 

If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that someone has already answered that in the affirmative.....

Missed that. Whoever said it was wrong.

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2 minutes ago, Dog said:

Missed that. Whoever said it was wrong.

Mueller charged him with lying about it, that is a crime.

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Chris Christie is now promoting his new book which includes his opinion is the campaign wasn't competent enough to collude with the Russians. He goes on and on, no experience, too amateurish, etc. 

I dunno, the phrase "ignorance of the law is no excuse' comes to mind.  Here is a YouTube interview titled "Chris Christie Weighs In"

Weighs in.  somebody somewhere is pretty proud of that. 

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As they should be. :D

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42 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Chris Christie is now promoting his new book which includes his opinion is the campaign wasn't competent enough to collude with the Russians. He goes on and on, no experience, too amateurish, etc. 

I dunno, the phrase "ignorance of the law is no excuse' comes to mind.  Here is a YouTube interview titled "Chris Christie Weighs In"

Weighs in.  somebody somewhere is pretty proud of that. 

I remember hearing someplace that there has to be an "intent" somewhere in this sort of thing for it to be a crime, so they could just plead really stupid (useful idiot?).  I, or what I heard, could be very wrong though.

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23 minutes ago, bridhb said:

I remember hearing someplace that there has to be an "intent" somewhere in this sort of thing for it to be a crime, so they could just plead really stupid (useful idiot?).  I, or what I heard, could be very wrong though.

Not a lawyer but still pretty sure if you commit a crime and state you didn't know you were doing anything wrong it won't end well.  I think Christie is just doing his best to promote his book against the plethora of other tell all Trump books. 

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8 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Not a lawyer but still pretty sure if you commit a crime and state you didn't know you were doing anything wrong it won't end well.  I think Christie is just doing his best to promote his book against the plethora of other tell all Trump books. 

Obstruction of justice does require a corrupt intent.  That's why there is such a focus on what he said to Comey about backing off of Flynn.  We now hear that he and Donzo Jr. thought that by firing Flynn the Russia thing would go away.  And there are the comments about "fighting back".  Well, one moron's "fighting back" could well be the law's corrupt intent to obstruct justice.  

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It must be tough for the Special Counsel's team to make these charging decisions, because in terms of determining intent it leads directly to asking "what were these fucking idiots thinking?"  Good luck figuring that out.  

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21 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

It must be tough for the Special Counsel's team to make these charging decisions, because in terms of determining intent it leads directly to asking "what were these fucking idiots thinking?"  Good luck figuring that out.  

They were thinking "What a great marketing strategy for our brand if would be to get the Russkies to help us win.  They'e got tons of money and we're going to be richer!" 

Unfortunately, they were such fucking idiots that they didn't actually know what they were trying to win, and that a victory would have lots and lots of rules attached to it.  

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35 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:
46 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Not a lawyer but still pretty sure if you commit a crime and state you didn't know you were doing anything wrong it won't end well.  I think Christie is just doing his best to promote his book against the plethora of other tell all Trump books. 

Obstruction of justice does require a corrupt intent.  That's why there is such a focus on what he said to Comey about backing off of Flynn.  We now hear that he and Donzo Jr. thought that by firing Flynn the Russia thing would go away.  And there are the comments about "fighting back".  Well, one moron's "fighting back" could well be the law's corrupt intent to obstruct justice. 

Right.

I was really surprised at President Trump (as President he is of course the head of federal law enforcement) talking about "fighting back" against the various agencies and Mueller.

Who "fights back" against cops? Criminals. Pretty much by definition

-DSK

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3 hours ago, badlatitude said:

Mueller charged him with lying about it, that is a crime.

You might also consider what Mueller did not charge him with.... anything having to do with RUSSIANS!

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10 minutes ago, Dog said:

You might also consider what Mueller did not charge him with.... anything having to do with RUSSIANS!

Yet.

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I’m looking at the Mueller investigation as a RICO type situation, where the variety and breadth of the criminal enterprise is the target. Mueller has charged many Russians in his investigation, many Americans with lying and now Stone is charged with obstruction and aiding a foreign non-state agency with influencing our national election.

Even @Dog has to admit that Mueller is proceeding exactly in accordance with his mandate as described by Rosenstein.

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6 minutes ago, phillysailor said:

I’m looking at the Mueller investigation as a RICO type situation, where the variety and breadth of the criminal enterprise is the target. Mueller has charged many Russians in his investigation, many Americans with lying and now Stone is charged with obstruction and aiding a foreign non-state agency with influencing our national election. BULLSHIT

Even @Dog has to admit that Mueller is proceeding exactly in accordance with his mandate as described by Rosenstein.

 

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1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Obstruction of justice does require a corrupt intent.  That's why there is such a focus on what he said to Comey about backing off of Flynn.  We now hear that he and Donzo Jr. thought that by firing Flynn the Russia thing would go away.  And there are the comments about "fighting back".  Well, one moron's "fighting back" could well be the law's corrupt intent to obstruct justice.  

Also, a number of charges relate to lying. That suggests intent.

 

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3 minutes ago, Dog said:

BS

Why is it BS? From politico:

“In one paragraph, Mueller alleges that an unnamed individual gave instructions to a senior unnamed Trump campaign official to get in touch with Stone “about any additional releases and what other damaging information” WikiLeaks was holding about Clinton’s campaign.

After getting those orders, Stone allegedly told the Trump campaign “about potential future releases of damaging material” that WikiLeaks was holding.

Democratic lawmakers and legal experts tracking the Russia probe singled out those details — which suggest the Trump campaign willingly engaged with a foreign entity seeking to meddle in the presidential election — as the most alluring revelation yet in the Mueller investigation.”

To me, that’s evidence that the Trump Campaign worked through Stone to get access to Wikileaks information in order to gain assistance in the election.

Im just curious how you’d like to split this hair?

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10 hours ago, Dog said:

RUSSIA!!!

9 hours ago, Dog said:

RUSSIA!

And Dog's Tourettes is back. Funny how you can predict, almost to the hour, when he'll go from Doggy-styling talking points to shit-posting. :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, Dog said:

You might also consider what Mueller did not charge him with.... anything having to do with RUSSIANS!

You can up your dosage of anxiety medicine, the time is getting close.

Look where they put the White House logo.

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Mueller investigation near completion, acting AG Whitaker says

Special counsel Robert Mueller has nearly wrapped up his almost two-year investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, the acting attorney general said Monday. 

"The investigation is, I think, close to being completed, and I hope that we can get the report from [Special Counsel] Mueller as soon we — as possible," acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker said during a news conference after announcing criminal charges against one of China's largest telecommunications companies. 

"I have been fully briefed on the investigation, and I look forward to director Mueller delivering the report, and I really am not going to talk about an open and ongoing investigation otherwise," he added.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mueller-investigation-near-completion-acting-ag-whitaker-says-n963726 

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7 hours ago, SloopJonB said:
11 hours ago, SailBlueH2O said:

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They sure are a smart people - decades of extreme criminal activity including probably dozens of murders and not a shred of evidence against any of them.

People that smart should be running the country.

Whoever made up this meme certainly believed that Democrats are smarter than Republicans.

It also makes the case the Republicans insist on their candidates being hypocrits. If they just insisted on their candidates being crooks, then then they'd clearly vote Democrat...... or at least, for these Democrats.....

-DSK

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6 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Whoever made up this meme certainly believed that Democrats are smarter than Republicans.

It also makes the case the Republicans insist on their candidates being hypocrits. If they just insisted on their candidates being crooks, then then they'd clearly vote Democrat...... or at least, for these Democrats.....

-DSK

Im guessing that not only do democrats make better presidents, but that democratic members of the house make better investigators.

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IF.......................... IF..................... Lying to Congress is an impeachable offense.......... Then we have our answer.

IF.................... IF................. Failing to uphold the laws of the United States of America, as commander in chief, is an impeachable offense............. Then we have an answer.

 

IF............... IF..................... Being an asshole of the first order was an impeachable offense, we'd have an ex-president.

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39 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Im guessing that not only do democrats make better presidents, but that democratic members of the house make better investigators.

The current Republican investigator is doing pretty well.

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F.......................... IF..................... Lying to Congress is an impeachable offense.......... Then we have our answer. Clinton (ok, not to Congress but under oath)

IF.................... IF................. Failing to uphold the laws of the United States of America, as commander in chief, is an impeachable offense............. Then we have an answer. Nixon

 

IF............... IF..................... Being an asshole of the first order was an impeachable offense, we'd have an ex-president. Johnson

Is that the trifecta?

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14 hours ago, phillysailor said:

Why is it BS? From politico:

“In one paragraph, Mueller alleges that an unnamed individual gave instructions to a senior unnamed Trump campaign official to get in touch with Stone “about any additional releases and what other damaging information” WikiLeaks was holding about Clinton’s campaign.

After getting those orders, Stone allegedly told the Trump campaign “about potential future releases of damaging material” that WikiLeaks was holding.

Democratic lawmakers and legal experts tracking the Russia probe singled out those details — which suggest the Trump campaign willingly engaged with a foreign entity seeking to meddle in the presidential election — as the most alluring revelation yet in the Mueller investigation.”

To me, that’s evidence that the Trump Campaign worked through Stone to get access to Wikileaks information in order to gain assistance in the election.

Im just curious how you’d like to split this hair?

You claim that Stone was charged with "aiding a foreign non-state agency with influencing our national election".  He was not, your claim is false, it's bullshit....That's how I split that hair.

And BTW, if you think seeking information from foreign sources including RUSSIANS to gain assistance in an election is illegal you might want to have a look at your own party and the Clinton campaign.

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7 minutes ago, learningJ24 said:

"CIA Director Mike Pompeo on Thursday hammered WikiLeaks, ...'

"It's time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is: A non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia,” he said.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/328730-cia-director-wikileaks-a-non-state-hostile-intelligence-service

 

He was jus funnin. 

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7 hours ago, Dog said:

You claim that Stone was charged with "aiding a foreign non-state agency with influencing our national election".  He was not, your claim is false, it's bullshit....That's how I split that hair.

And BTW, if you think seeking information from foreign sources including RUSSIANS to gain assistance in an election is illegal you might want to have a look at your own party and the Clinton campaign.

I sure wish I could drink what you've been mainlining,

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7 hours ago, Dog said:

You claim that Stone was charged with "aiding a foreign non-state agency with influencing our national election".  He was not, your claim is false, it's bullshit....That's how I split that hair.

And BTW, if you think seeking information from foreign sources including RUSSIANS to gain assistance in an election is illegal you might want to have a look at your own party and the Clinton campaign.

The only problem with your opinion is that Mueller disagrees with it, and he tends to have facts on his side.

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56 minutes ago, phillysailor said:

The only problem with your opinion is that Mueller disagrees with it, and he tends to have facts on his side.

Bullshit.

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8 hours ago, Dog said:

You claim that Stone was charged with "aiding a foreign non-state agency with influencing our national election".  He was not, your claim is false, it's bullshit....That's how I split that hair.

And BTW, if you think seeking information from foreign sources including RUSSIANS to gain assistance in an election is illegal you might want to have a look at your own party and the Clinton campaign.

Just because the Clinton campaign may have done it, don't make it legal..... They just never got charged with the alleged crime.... You know, no conviction, no crime. Right?

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23 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Just because the Clinton campaign may have done it, don't make it legal..... They just never got charged with the alleged crime.... You know, no conviction, no crime. Right?

Duh!!! ...No one has been charged with it.

Oh, and good lemming. 

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1 hour ago, Ease the sheet. said:

The courts seem to disagree with you dog.

Why is that?

Because the courts made it all the way to Oz and got a brain, Dog stopped at a peep show along the way and picked up a mop. 

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12 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

The courts seem to disagree with you dog.

Why is that?

The courts disagree with me on what. That Stone has not been charged with "aiding a foreign non-state agency with influencing our national election"? Or that no one has been charged with seeking information from foreign sources? Or something you imagine?

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46 minutes ago, Dog said:

The courts disagree with me on what. That Stone has not been charged with "aiding a foreign non-state agency with influencing our national election"? Or that no one has been charged with seeking information from foreign sources? Or something you imagine?

 

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Hard to argue with that.

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