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20 minutes ago, Mike G said:

RICO them all.

 

20 minutes ago, Mike G said:

RICO them all.

I think the SDNY is working on that.

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2 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

“Mr. Hyde”

Classic. 

I saw that show. Mr. Ghouliani played Dr. Jekyll. He was very convincing.

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2 hours ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

The judge doesn’t seem real impressed by Flynn’s desire to change his plea. its almost like bullshitting doesn’t work in Court.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bradheath/status/1220743543200845829/photo/1

And that bullshitting is just something that works on @Dogs

Whoops. Bullshitters struggle in the place where they take the oath. 

He really needs real world representation. 

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12 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Whoops. Bullshitters struggle in the place where they take the oath. 

He really needs real world representation. 

Integrity matters and Flynn seems to lack it.

If you have read about the precious life our top military officials live, you should be appalled.

I have worked with excellent officials who put their lives on the line.

Flynn deserves no sympathy.  He ought to go to prison.

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1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Whoops. Bullshitters struggle in the place where they take the oath. 

He really needs real world representation. 

Permit me to disagree. Flynn's only chance to avoid prison is most definitely not with real world representation. It's by pandering first to Shitstain's elk and moreover to Shitstain himself. In the real world Flynn goes to jail. In a Shitty world, he walks and campaigns again for Shitstain. I expect to see a lot of shots of Army Lieutenant General Michael Flynn in full dress uniform 24/7 on Fox News.

In re Arpaio.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/politics/sheriff-joe-arpaio-donald-trump-pardon/index.html

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1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

He really needs real world representation. 

He doesn’t exist in the real world. Exactly like Trump the people he needs are the people who won’t have a fucking thing to do with him. Not because of politics but because it’s a shit sandwich with a client that won’t shut the fuck up.

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On 1/15/2020 at 2:40 PM, Fakenews said:

He can pardon him before sentencing.

Might be an extradition request from Oz.. that will make things interesting

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-10/inside-story-behind-chris-collins-downfall/11929048

 

There are calls for Australian authorities to prosecute a disgraced former US congressman for insider trading while a director of an Australian drug company, amid concerns he may be pardoned by President Donald Trump.

Key points

  • Trump ally Chris Collins has been sentenced to prison for insider trading involving an Australian drug company
  • Australian shareholders and ethics experts want Collins prosecuted in Australia and question whether ASIC dismissed warning signs
  • There are concerns Mr Trump will pardon Collins

 

Once a member of Mr Trump's inner circle, former Republican congressman Chris Collins has recently been sentenced to prison in the US for insider trading and lying to the FBI.

A Four Corners investigation reveals investors and ethics experts are now questioning whether Australian regulators dismissed warning signs about Collins, long before he was convicted of insider trading on the lawn of the White House.

Sydney barrister and Innate investor James Wheeldon was "absolutely staggered" by Collins's behaviour.

"I was most staggered by … I guess the sociopathic level of brazenness in procuring insider trading from the White House, and thinking that you would get away with it," he said.

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The best...... when they are looking after their bank balances............ most of the time.

Stealing from the poor will get you a pardon.

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On 1/24/2020 at 2:53 PM, hasher said:

Integrity matters and Flynn seems to lack it.

If you have read about the precious life our top military officials live, you should be appalled.

I have worked with excellent officials who put their lives on the line.

Flynn deserves no sympathy.  He ought to go to prison.

Flynn ought to be dragged thru the streets, then hamstrung and left to be eaten by a wild dog pack

- DSK

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

Flynn ought to be dragged thru the streets, then hamstrung and left to be eaten by a wild dog pack

- DSK

33 years in the Army.  Think of the potential harm he's likely done. 

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Judge Sullivan seemed less than amused by The former NSA at his first sentencing, indicating his inclination to send him to prison if he didn’t cooperate more. 
 

He chose to hire Foxy News lawyers and sling bullshit. I’m guessing the Judge will be impressed by Q Anon theories and let him off Scott free. 

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Oops,  the juicy bit is bolded, the bullshitters gotta bullshit..........

 

As noted earlier, the Court has reviewed the redacted version of the Mueller Report,
Attorney General Barr’s representations made during his April 18, 2019 press conference, and
Attorney General Barr’s April 18, 2019 letter. And, the Court cannot reconcile certain public
representations made by Attorney General Barr with the findings in the Mueller Report. The
inconsistencies between Attorney General Barr’s statements, made at a time when the public did
not have access to the redacted version of the Mueller Report to assess the veracity of his
statements, and portions of the redacted version of the Mueller Report that conflict with those
statements cause the Court to seriously question whether Attorney General Barr made a
calculated attempt to influence public discourse about the Mueller Report in favor of President
Trump despite certain findings in the redacted version of the Mueller Report to the contrary.

These circumstances generally, and Attorney General Barr’s lack of candor specifically,
call into question Attorney General Barr’s credibility and in turn, the Department’s
representation that “all of the information redacted from the version of the [Mueller] Report
released by [ ] Attorney General [Barr]” is protected from disclosure by its claimed FOIA
exemptions. Brinkmann Decl. ¶ 11 (emphasis added). In the Court’s view, Attorney

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The Judge apparently doesn’t think too highly of our esteemed Attorney General. That right there is a pretty good beat down.

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Won’t move the meter. The Faithful will only hold him in higher esteem for his dedication to the cause. It’s not like he changed parties or anything treasonous. 

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On 3/5/2020 at 4:10 PM, Navig8tor said:

Appointed by George the Dumber......appears to be fair to DemoRats and Publicans alike.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Walton

Too bad that's now all out the window, this Benedict Arnold will learn there's no mercy for treasonous traitorous un-Americans too.  

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31 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Agree, the optics look mighty incestuous.

Why do I get the feeling Barr might have some explaining to do when his term is up or is the pardon already signed and sealed just not delivered.

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The verbiage in there seems to suggest that the Russian troll farm was trolling the US AG. Allowing a defendant whose location and benefactors (Putin's chef) to use American laws about discovery to embarrass our justice system and expose legal and quasi-legal methods used to figure out what Russian shmucks are doing isn't anything anyone who pays taxes wants to subsidize.

I ain't bothering to SNOPES this one, but it seems like the AG might be doing the right thing. Gonna trust them on this one, rather than knee-jerk believe another anti-Barr story.

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About that “more than circumstantial evidence” of collusion with the Russians Adam Schiff claims he has, it does not exist. The transcripts of Intelligence Committee interviews are public thanks to Richard Grenell. Now we know why Adam Schiff has been sitting on them long after they were declassified.

“They show exactly what you'd expect them to show: None of the former Obama administration officials who took to the airwaves immediately after Trump's election to claim collusion had any evidence of it”. ...Lee Smith

And this...

“Information released in the Justice Department’s motion to dismiss the case it brought against Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn confirms the significance of a January 5, 2017, meeting at the Obama White House. It was at this meeting that Obama gave guidance to key officials who would be tasked with protecting his administration’s utilization of secretly funded Clinton campaign research, which alleged Trump was involved in a treasonous plot to collude with Russia, from being discovered or stopped by the incoming administration”.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/08/obama-biden-oval-office-meeting-on-january-5-was-key-to-entire-anti-trump-operation/

Drip drip drip...indeed

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12 minutes ago, Dog said:

About that “more than circumstantial evidence” of collusion with the Russians Adam Schiff claims he has, it does not exist. The transcripts of Intelligence Committee interviews are public thanks to Richard Grenell. Now we know why Adam Schiff has been sitting on them long after they were declassified.

“They show exactly what you'd expect them to show: None of the former Obama administration officials who took to the airwaves immediately after Trump's election to claim collusion had any evidence of it”. ...Lee Smith

And this...

“Information released in the Justice Department’s motion to dismiss the case it brought against Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn confirms the significance of a January 5, 2017, meeting at the Obama White House. It was at this meeting that Obama gave guidance to key officials who would be tasked with protecting his administration’s utilization of secretly funded Clinton campaign research, which alleged Trump was involved in a treasonous plot to collude with Russia, from being discovered or stopped by the incoming administration”.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/08/obama-biden-oval-office-meeting-on-january-5-was-key-to-entire-anti-trump-operation/

Drip drip drip...indeed

 

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Dog quotes the Federalist??   Sure....

 

"During the coronavirus pandemic, The Federalist published numerous pieces that contained false information or information that was contrary to the recommendations of public health experts and authorities.[24][25] The Federalist published articles denouncing social distancing, as well as articles claiming that fears over the coronavirus pandemic had been overhyped by the Democratic Party and the media. The Federalist co-founder Sean Davis said that Democrats were intentionally trying to "destroy the economy" as a “last-ditch 2020 play”, and that "All they care about is power. And if they have to destroy your life and business to get power back, they will." The Federalist published articles calling on the government to quickly end social distancing directions, and to open businesses again.[25] The Federalist co-founder Ben Domenech attacked a prominent Imperial College analysis which estimated the loss of life due to the coronavirus pandemic; Domenech attacked the analysis for revising its figures downward, but the only reason that the analysis did so was that the analysis incorporated the social distancing and shutdown strategies that had increasingly been implemented.[26]

It published a piece by someone identified as a physician in Oregon who recommended that people hold "chickenpox"-style parties for the coronavirus to build herd immunity, but the recommendations were contrary to those of public health experts, and the author in question did not have a medical license and had worked as a businessman for decades.[25][27][28] At the time, experts warned that the number of new infections should be kept down so as to not overburden the health care system.[29] The Federalist was subsequently temporarily suspended from Twitter because the website used the Twitter platform to promote fringe ideas that contradicted public health experts and were harmful to public health.[28] Reddit also removed links to The Federalist article on its platform.[30]"

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5 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

 

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Indeed

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4 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

Dog quotes the Federalist??   Sure....

 

"During the coronavirus pandemic, The Federalist published numerous pieces that contained false information or information that was contrary to the recommendations of public health experts and authorities.[24][25] The Federalist published articles denouncing social distancing, as well as articles claiming that fears over the coronavirus pandemic had been overhyped by the Democratic Party and the media. The Federalist co-founder Sean Davis said that Democrats were intentionally trying to "destroy the economy" as a “last-ditch 2020 play”, and that "All they care about is power. And if they have to destroy your life and business to get power back, they will." The Federalist published articles calling on the government to quickly end social distancing directions, and to open businesses again.[25] The Federalist co-founder Ben Domenech attacked a prominent Imperial College analysis which estimated the loss of life due to the coronavirus pandemic; Domenech attacked the analysis for revising its figures downward, but the only reason that the analysis did so was that the analysis incorporated the social distancing and shutdown strategies that had increasingly been implemented.[26]

It published a piece by someone identified as a physician in Oregon who recommended that people hold "chickenpox"-style parties for the coronavirus to build herd immunity, but the recommendations were contrary to those of public health experts, and the author in question did not have a medical license and had worked as a businessman for decades.[25][27][28] At the time, experts warned that the number of new infections should be kept down so as to not overburden the health care system.[29] The Federalist was subsequently temporarily suspended from Twitter because the website used the Twitter platform to promote fringe ideas that contradicted public health experts and were harmful to public health.[28] Reddit also removed links to The Federalist article on its platform.[30]"

 Sure...You prefer to be duped by the kind of sources that sold you on the fairy tales this thread regurgitates.

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Being a TC fan explains a lot.  Good Dog.

edit: Hint - in the title of your link it says "opinion" which is what FOX sells - opinion to rubes who lap it up. Just enough actual news is sprinkled in to get the bullshit to go down.   Feed the base.  This of course is strictly my opinion.

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15 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Being a TC fan explains a lot.  Good Dog.

edit: Hint - in the title of your link it says "opinion" which is what FOX sells - opinion to rubes who lap it up. Just enough actual news is sprinkled in to get the bullshit to go down.   Feed the base.  This of course is strictly my opinion.

It often is not even sprinkled with a tiny bit of fact, it's an outright pack of lies. As much the opposite of what can be observed in reality as is possible.

- DSK

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On 12/26/2019 at 2:43 PM, Dog said:

The guys that brought us hundreds of pages of Russia! Russia! Russia! and called FBI skeptics traitors, call other people bullshitters. YCMTSU.

 

1 hour ago, Dog said:

About that “more than circumstantial evidence” of collusion with the Russians Adam Schiff claims he has, it does not exist. The transcripts of Intelligence Committee interviews are public thanks to Richard Grenell. Now we know why Adam Schiff has been sitting on them long after they were declassified.

“They show exactly what you'd expect them to show: None of the former Obama administration officials who took to the airwaves immediately after Trump's election to claim collusion had any evidence of it”. ...Lee Smith

And this...

“Information released in the Justice Department’s motion to dismiss the case it brought against Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn confirms the significance of a January 5, 2017, meeting at the Obama White House. It was at this meeting that Obama gave guidance to key officials who would be tasked with protecting his administration’s utilization of secretly funded Clinton campaign research, which alleged Trump was involved in a treasonous plot to collude with Russia, from being discovered or stopped by the incoming administration”.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/08/obama-biden-oval-office-meeting-on-january-5-was-key-to-entire-anti-trump-operation/

Drip drip drip...indeed

Good to see that you found this thread again. Now can you point out the post where someone wrote what you described in the first of the two quotes above, about “FBI skeptics”?

 

or were you just bullshitting again?

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16 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

:lol: gargle that sauce doggie! These are your people! 
https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/13/if-people-cant-get-married-on-plantations-they-cant-get-married-anywhere/

mollie Hemingway:lol: 

 

Naming the slave cabins your guests will stay in at a Plantation Wedding?  Tasteless at best.

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1 hour ago, d'ranger said:

Being a TC fan explains a lot.  Good Dog.

edit: Hint - in the title of your link it says "opinion" which is what FOX sells - opinion to rubes who lap it up. Just enough actual news is sprinkled in to get the bullshit to go down.   Feed the base.  This of course is strictly my opinion.

Rejecting TC out of hand explains a lot.

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It's amusing to watch you guys disparaging the news sources that didn't lead you around by the nose for the last three years.

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It’s funny to watch you strut and preen about the sources leading you around by the nose, when the only thing they offer is a strident devotion to “fuck you libs”

seriously, the federalist? :lol:

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1 minute ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

It’s funny to watch you strut and preen about the sources leading you around by the nose, when the only thing they offer is a strident devotion to “fuck you libs”

seriously, the federalist? :lol:

You can lead a horse to water....

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They can’t back off.  It would be way to painful to admit it that their hero Obama may have been involved in a scandal that could exceed watergate in  scope. 

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56 minutes ago, The Joker said:

They can’t back off.  It would be way to painful to admit it that their hero Obama may have been involved in a scandal that could exceed watergate in  scope. 

Well that is Namby-Pamby: Would...may...could... WTF.

Try again.

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31 minutes ago, El Boracho said:

Well that is Namby-Pamby: Would...may...could... WTF.

Try again.

Unlike those that posted in this endless thread,  I’m willing to wait for the facts to come out before switching from modal verbs 

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There is a state park in Apalachicola, FL built around a plantation house. 

But in this case they retained the slave quarters out back. 

Unfortunately these are badly neglected and falling into ruin. 

To me this is a part of our history that we should retain. 

We saw the slave quarters in February, and they were in much worse shape than is pictured here; 

the roof had fallen in for one thing. 

Will anyone out there join me in making a donation for the preservation of that structure? 

historical, homes

 

https://www.floridastateparks.org/parks-and-trails/orman-house-historic-state-park

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And you know, if a couple wants to exchange vows out by the slave quarters, 

I have no problem with that. 

It really is a very solemn place. 

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6 hours ago, Dog said:

About that “more than circumstantial evidence” of collusion with the Russians Adam Schiff claims he has, it does not exist. The transcripts of Intelligence Committee interviews are public thanks to Richard Grenell. Now we know why Adam Schiff has been sitting on them long after they were declassified.

“They show exactly what you'd expect them to show: None of the former Obama administration officials who took to the airwaves immediately after Trump's election to claim collusion had any evidence of it”. ...Lee Smith

And this...

“Information released in the Justice Department’s motion to dismiss the case it brought against Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn confirms the significance of a January 5, 2017, meeting at the Obama White House. It was at this meeting that Obama gave guidance to key officials who would be tasked with protecting his administration’s utilization of secretly funded Clinton campaign research, which alleged Trump was involved in a treasonous plot to collude with Russia, from being discovered or stopped by the incoming administration”.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/08/obama-biden-oval-office-meeting-on-january-5-was-key-to-entire-anti-trump-operation/

Drip drip drip...indeed

What did Flynn and the Russian Ambassador discuss?    

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1 hour ago, The Joker said:

Unlike those that posted in this endless thread,  I’m willing to wait for the facts to come out before switching from modal verbs 

:lol:

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1 hour ago, Mark K said:

What did Flynn and the Russian Ambassador discuss?    

Ask the FBI, they evidently listened in. Which would suggest,  only items of transition information or that would have been on the indictments pr charges.

 

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40 minutes ago, warbird said:

Ask the FBI, they evidently listened in. Which would suggest,  only items of transition information or that would have been on the indictments pr charges.

 

So you have no idea...but have determined that whatever it was it could only be something which did not warrant a counter intelligence investigation.  

 Very odd, because in his decision to lie about it to Pence and the FBI about it,  Flynn's thoughts on the matter are demonstratively revealed to be the opposite.  

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28 minutes ago, Mark K said:

So you have no idea...but have determined that whatever it was it could only be something which did not warrant a counter intelligence investigation.  

 Very odd, because in his decision to lie about it to Pence and the FBI about it,  Flynn's thoughts on the matter are demonstratively revealed to be the opposite.  

Else, it would have been evidence of collusion or some other malfeasance which curiously never surfaced.

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24 minutes ago, Mark K said:

So you have no idea...but have determined that whatever it was it could only be something which did not warrant a counter intelligence investigation.  

 Very odd, because in his decision to lie about it to Pence and the FBI about it,  Flynn's thoughts on the matter are demonstratively revealed to be the opposite.  

He was forced to lie to the VP just like he was forced to lie to the FBI, they asked him a question. So unfair.

Or maybe he didn't lie to the VP, he apparently didn't do anything wrong so maybe the VP will come to his defense and I won't be surprised if that happens. This administration can say and do whatever and the base has no problems holding and defending multiple contradictory "facts" simultaneously. 

 

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12 minutes ago, warbird said:

Else, it would have been evidence of collusion or some other malfeasance which curiously never surfaced.

It did surface and the VP claimed innocence and ignorance of Flynns actions. Flynn took the fall claiming he lied to the VP.

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2 hours ago, warbird said:

Else, it would have been evidence of collusion or some other malfeasance which curiously never surfaced.

 They did surface, and Flynn plead guilty to it. Was Flynn lying about that too? 

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34 minutes ago, Mark K said:

 They did surface, and Flynn plead guilty to it. Was Flynn lying about that too? 

Flynn talked to the Ambassador about transition. 

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2 minutes ago, warbird said:

Flynn talked to the Ambassador abpit transition. 

And then lied about it, which compromised him with the Russians. Yet now we are being told a counter intelligence investigation was unwarranted...on a person who was compromised and privy to ALL us secrets as the incoming NSA. 

 

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7 hours ago, The Joker said:

Unlike those that posted in this endless thread,  I’m willing to wait for the facts to come out before switching from modal verbs 

Still #1? 

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14 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:
7 hours ago, The Joker said:

Unlike those that posted in this endless thread,  I’m willing to wait for the facts to come out before switching from modal verbs 

Still #1? 

You bet. And a lot of #2 as well. They are #1 in #2, if you know what I mean.

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17 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

You bet. And a lot of #2 as well. They are #1 in #2, if you know what I mean.

Anyone with any guts would either defend their position or appologise. @The Joker simply runs away.

 

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So, speaking of drips.................

Oh, never mind.

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7 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

There is a state park in Apalachicola, FL built around a plantation house. 

But in this case they retained the slave quarters out back. 

Unfortunately these are badly neglected and falling into ruin. 

To me this is a part of our history that we should retain. 

We saw the slave quarters in February, and they were in much worse shape than is pictured here; 

the roof had fallen in for one thing. 

Will anyone out there join me in making a donation for the preservation of that structure? 

historical, homes

 

https://www.floridastateparks.org/parks-and-trails/orman-house-historic-state-park

Well now, don't everybody rush up at once 

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4 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

Well now, don't everybody rush up at once 

If I want to get married there will they provide a bride? How long is the marriage supposed to last?

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52 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

You bet. And a lot of #2 as well. They are #1 in #2, if you know what I mean.

90% of this thread are posts from bullshitters trying to change the subject, including the latest frenzy. 
 

#1!

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8 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

If I want to get married there will they provide a bride? How long is the marriage supposed to last?

If you take your vows at that location, it will be a serious no-bullshit ceremony 

And, well, I was fortunate and found the most loyal admiral in the fleet. 

Going on 43 years now. 

Go for it. 

I cannot imagine how lonely it must be for singles in the time of C-V 

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4 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

90% of this thread are posts from bullshitters trying to change the subject, including the latest frenzy. 

So we are limited to discussing what Drumph Jr. knew about Rooskie contacts. 

OKAAAAAAAAy 

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2 hours ago, Mark K said:
2 hours ago, warbird said:

Flynn talked to the Ambassador abpit transition. 

And then lied about it, which compromised him with the Russians. Yet now we are being told a counter intelligence investigation was unwarranted...on a person who was compromised and privy to ALL us secrets as the incoming NSA. 

It's not been made public what crimes they had nailed Flynn for, other than lying about his Russian contacts to both Pence and to the FBI. The Russian Ambassador was one, but there was probably more... Flynn was on their payroll, don't forget.

There was a LOT of pussyfooting around with the Russians. Remember Kushner wanted a secret line? Remember Trump's secret meetings with Putin? I'd be willing to bet that Flynn was giving them some kind of military related info, or access. He was a General before he became a Trump buttkisser.

- DSK

 

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41 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

90% of this thread are posts from bullshitters trying to change the subject, including the latest frenzy. 
 

#1!

90% of most threads in PA are bullshitters trying to change the subject.  As long as there are those who respond to that crap, the bullshitters will keep posting.

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1 hour ago, AJ Oliver said:

Well now, don't everybody rush up at once 

I'd go up there with tools and knowledge. Can't supply cash money, but I've done a lot of renovation of 18th century structures.

 I cold even bring Aldo the Cadaver dog,,,,,, See if we can find some remains.

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44 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

So we are limited to discussing what Drumph Jr. knew about Rooskie contacts. 

OKAAAAAAAAy 

If it’s what you say it is, I love it, but there is a progression of discussion of related topics, then there are bullshitters changing the subject. This thread is mostly bullshitters trying to derail the discussion. 

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16 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

I'd go up there with tools and knowledge. Can't supply cash money, but I've done a lot of renovation of 18th century structures.

 I cold even bring Aldo the Cadaver dog,,,,,, See if we can find some remains.

If you are serious, I will try to help make it happen. 

If you are volunteering at the Park, you can keep your camper there for free. 

And if you do not know Apalachicola (but you likely do) it's a quirky Old Florida kind of place in which lefties are not always shot on sight) 

I have a few chits that I can try to call in . .    

(Really, really sad that the oyster fishery has all but collapsed - hard times in that area) 

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2 hours ago, Jules said:

90% of most threads in PA are bullshitters trying to change the subject.  As long as there are those who respond to that crap, the bullshitters will keep posting.

You have the secret. Let's just stop posting and go back to our respective inbred forums.

It was actually pretty OK before DJT, when physics and economics still worked.

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14 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

It's not been made public what crimes they had nailed Flynn for, other than lying about his Russian contacts to both Pence and to the FBI. The Russian Ambassador was one, but there was probably more... Flynn was on their payroll, don't forget.

There was a LOT of pussyfooting around with the Russians. Remember Kushner wanted a secret line? Remember Trump's secret meetings with Putin? I'd be willing to bet that Flynn was giving them some kind of military related info, or access. He was a General before he became a Trump buttkisser.

- DSK

 

IIRC he was on the Turks payroll and failed to report it. Used to be government officials not reporting their foreign patrons was a crime, but now any investigation into such is "immaterial" and they can lie to the FBI about that too. 

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15 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

It's not been made public what crimes they had nailed Flynn for, other than lying about his Russian contacts to both Pence and to the FBI. The Russian Ambassador was one

 

The info was likely available to Schiff. He is particulary quiet on this matter. Were there a smoking gun Schifty would be bugging out right about now.

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5 hours ago, Mark K said:

IIRC he was on the Turks payroll and failed to report it. Used to be government officials not reporting their foreign patrons was a crime, but now any investigation into such is "immaterial" and they can lie to the FBI about that too. 

When you're a big star of a President, the bestest ever in history and much better than that loser Lincoln, they let you get away with it.

We have Barr's solemn assurance that history is written by the winners

- DSK

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21 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

If you are serious, I will try to help make it happen. 

If you are volunteering at the Park, you can keep your camper there for free. 

And if you do not know Apalachicola (but you likely do) it's a quirky Old Florida kind of place in which lefties are not always shot on sight) 

I have a few chits that I can try to call in . .    

(Really, really sad that the oyster fishery has all but collapsed - hard times in that area) 

Never been to Apalacacola. My father's old partner in his architecture firm had a place there, but they sold it after Michael. I have no camper. And I'm pretty much 100% disabled at this point. But Aldo and I could supervise. From what I hear, all the pine blocks that no one cleared after Michael came through, are now on fire..... I'm no longer a forest fire fighter. Those days are 40 years ago.

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Someone has to get to the bottom of this.  Obviously a grievous and heinous crime has been committed and is still going on...

 

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On 5/10/2020 at 6:46 PM, Sol Rosenberg said:

Whoops. DOJ did some hard Doggy Styling of someone’s comments in order to seek dismissal. Sorry bullshitters. 
 

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/497044-former-doj-official-department-twisted-my-words-in-motion-to-drop

Doesn't matter.  From everything I've read, there's little Sullivan the judge can do.  If the Justice Department wants to drop it, regardless of whether it's right or not, they can.  The Atlantic had a nice article about what the judge could do - namely ask questions about the different rationale for the sake of clarification.  But it likely doesn't matter.

Our system of checks and balances appears to have been broken by the co-opting of justice into a partisan game.  As long as the justice department refuses to prosecute based on politican choices, then we are fucked.

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2 minutes ago, Grrr... said:

Doesn't matter.  From everything I've read, there's little Sullivan the judge can do.  If the Justice Department wants to drop it, regardless of whether it's right or not, they can.  The Atlantic had a nice article about what the judge could do - namely ask questions about the different rationale for the sake of clarification.  But it likely doesn't matter.

Our system of checks and balances appears to have been broken by the co-opting of justice into a partisan game.  As long as the justice department refuses to prosecute based on politican choices, then we are fucked.

We should know pretty soon. Judge Sullivan isn't prone to playing nice with bullshitters in his courtroom. He is old school, from the days when the Judiciary was independent. Those habits are hard to break.  I'm thinking that he will have his say on this, one way or another.

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17 minutes ago, Jules said:

Someone has to get to the bottom of this.  Obviously a grievous and heinous crime has been committed and is still going on...

 

You know what the offense is.  Wink wink, nod nod.  Just like Michael Richards knew:

 

 

People who annoy the President:

 

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11 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

 

We should know pretty soon. Judge Sullivan isn't prone to playing nice with bullshitters in his courtroom. He is old school, from the days when the Judiciary was independent. Those habits are hard to break.  I'm thinking that he will have his say on this, one way or another.

We'll see...He certainly was not amused by the prosecutorial misconduct in the Sen Ted Stevens case.

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Say what?

“Henry personally led the remediation and forensics analysis of the DNC server after being warned of a breach in late April 2016 – he was paid by the DNC, which refused to turn over its serves to the FBI. Asked for the date when alleged Russian hackers stole data from the DNC server, Henry testified that CrowdStrike did not in fact know if such a theft occurred at all”. 

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.html

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This is a bit of a catchall thread, so I'll just leave this steaming turd on the table.

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A Senate committee will vote next week on a subpoena related to a Republican-led investigation targeting Joe Biden’s son Hunter.

According to a memo obtained by POLITICO, the Senate Homeland Security Committee plans to vote next Wednesday on Chairman Ron Johnson’s (R-Wis.) request to issue a subpoena to Blue Star Strategies, a Democratic public-relations firm, as part of the panel’s probe of corruption allegations against Hunter Biden and the Obama State Department.

The vote comes as the Republican-led Senate aims to resume its normal business amid the coronavirus pandemic, including confirming judicial nominees and reauthorizing federal surveillance powers. But Democrats have slammed the GOP’s agenda ever since the chamber returned to Washington last week, arguing that senators should prioritize mitigating the economic and public health impacts of the coronavirus crisis over partisan priorities.

“We’re in the middle of a public health and economic crisis, but instead of holding oversight hearings about testing, PPE, or bringing in the FEMA administrator, Senate Republicans are choosing to pursue diversionary, partisan conspiracy theories to prop up President Trump,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said of the decision to schedule a subpoena vote during the pandemic.

Committee rules require a vote on a subpoena if the minority party objects. The committee’s top Democrat, Sen. Gary Peters of Michigan, has vigorously opposed the Biden investigation, and he has demanded defense briefings in advance of any subpoena vote.

Johnson initially planned to subpoena Andrii Telizhenko, a former consultant for Blue Star Strategies, but ultimately withdrew those plans amid concerns about Telizhenko’s credibility given his unsubstantiated claims of coordination between the Ukrainian government and the Democratic National Committee in 2016.

Telizhenko’s involvement in the investigation prompted angry exchanges at a classified all-senators briefing in March centering on election security. Sources described the briefing as “combative” and “personal” as Democratic senators challenged Johnson and argued that his investigation undermines U.S. national security by aiding Russian efforts to sow disinformation in the U.S. political system.

Blue Star Strategies did work for Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company whose board Hunter Biden served on. The investigation centers on allegations that Blue Star Strategies, which has withheld certain documents from Johnson, sought to leverage Biden’s role on the board to influence policy matters at the State Department. Biden and his father reject the claims, which have been pushed by President Donald Trump and his allies, in particular his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

Johnson has said he plans to release an interim report over the summer on the status of the investigation.

I'm assuming if they do issue a subpoena that Hunter will tell them to pound sand and make them go through the Supreme Court to enforce it. Subpoenas don't matter any more, right?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/13/hunter-biden-senate-subpoena-254565

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10 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

This is a bit of a catchall thread, so I'll just leave this steaming turd on the table.

I'm assuming if they do issue a subpoena that Hunter will tell them to pound sand and make them go through the Supreme Court to enforce it. Subpoenas don't matter any more, right?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/13/hunter-biden-senate-subpoena-254565

Hunter should go before the Senate and pull a Ben Carson. "Oreo? I don't know nuttin' 'bout no Oreo."

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The Reich just loves them some good 'ol authoritarian demonizing . . 

How can anyone vote for, or support, such an obvious POS ? 

From WaPO via Mum Jones - 

Since writing “HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY” at 8:10 a.m. on Sunday, Trump has used his Twitter account to make or elevate allegations of criminal conduct against no less than 20 individuals and organizations….The list of purported culprits Trump has charged include two television news hosts, a comedian, at least five former officials from the FBI and Justice Department, the state of California, a broadcast television station and at least five top national security officials from President Barack Obama’s administration.

….Since taking office, Trump has casually accused multiple people of treason, ranging from former FBI director James B. Comey to the American media. He has regularly accused people of perjury or mishandling classified information, usually without evidence. He has said former secretary of state John F. Kerry “should be prosecuted” for an alleged violation of the Logan Act, a rarely invoked law preventing private citizens from conducting diplomacy on behalf of the U.S. government, due to his interactions with Iranian officials. Kerry has called Trump’s allegation “another presidential lie.”

….Trump has tweeted that top officials in the Obama administration perpetuated the “the biggest political crime in American history, by far!” He has retweeted posts calling for a wide range of people to be “handcuffed and prosecuted,” “indited,” put “in prison” and left “sitting in a cell.”

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Is there no legal recourse in the USA when the *resident accuses people of treason with zero proof? If not, WTF is wrong with your country?

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1 hour ago, Ishmael said:

Is there no legal recourse in the USA when the *resident accuses people of treason with zero proof? If not, WTF is wrong with your country?

Agree, well a few of us do take it seriously. 

Our media? Not so much.  Good essay here. 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/13/1944817/-Trump-broadly-threatens-criminal-charges-against-his-enemies-the-press-cannot-still-hide-on-this

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