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Poor Dog and TMSail. They bought into Hannity’s elaborate false scheme, and threw away their patriotism. 

I’d almost feel bad for them, except they are tearing the country apart.

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46 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Was Veselnetskya (sp?) working for the FBI too?  Imagine.  

She is part of the deep state.  But not ours: The Russian deep state

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7 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

I hope they get waterboarded.

Who, Hannity?  He pledged to do it, for charity.  He's going to live up to his word too.  Someday.  Right after the Cuban Embargo succeeds, he's going to do it!  He is an Honorable man of his word!  

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22 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

Poor Dog and TMSail. They bought into Hannity’s elaborate false scheme, and threw away their patriotism. 

I’d almost feel bad for them, except they are tearing the country apart.

Bla...bla...bla...

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Corruption as far as the eye can see.

AP - https://www.apnews.com/a3521859cf8d4c199cb9a8567abd2b71/The-princes,-the-president-and-the-fortune-seekers

The princes, the president and the fortune seekers

Excerpt -

WASHINGTON (AP) — After a year spent carefully cultivating two princes from the Arabian Peninsula, Elliott Broidy, a top fundraiser for President Donald Trump, thought he was finally close to nailing more than $1 billion in business.

He had ingratiated himself with crown princes from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, who were seeking to alter U.S. foreign policy and punish Qatar, an archrival in the Gulf that he dubbed “the snake.”

To do that, the California businessman had helped spearhead a secret campaign to influence the White House and Congress, flooding Washington with political donations.

Broidy and his business partner, Lebanese-American George Nader, pitched themselves to the crown princes as a backchannel to the White House, passing the princes’ praise — and messaging — straight to the president’s ears.

Now, in December 2017, Broidy was ready to be rewarded for all his hard work.

It was time to cash in.

In return for pushing anti-Qatar policies at the highest levels of America’s government, Broidy and Nader expected huge consulting contracts from Saudi Arabia and the UAE, according to an Associated Press investigation based on interviews with more than two dozen people and hundreds of pages of leaked emails between the two men. The emails reviewed by the AP included work summaries and contracting documents and proposals.

The AP has previously reported that Broidy and Nader sought to get an anti-Qatar bill through Congress while obscuring the source of the money behind their influence campaign. A new cache of emails obtained by the AP reveals an ambitious, secretive lobbying effort to isolate Qatar and undermine the Pentagon’s longstanding relationship with the Gulf country.

 

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1 minute ago, Dog said:

Bla...bla...bla...

Shouldn’t it be “woof woof woof?”

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Nope - Blah, blah, blah is all he hears.

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9 hours ago, Dog said:

Moving the ball!... Ha, that's rich ... We've gone from collusion fictions to porn stars.

Sorry "we" haven't moved on from collusion just yet. Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time and discuss BOTH legal issues Trump faces. As that is not a criminal case, Mueller is not investigating it. Instead, he is still looking at the collusion angle, as indicated by the questions he gave Trump's lawyers that he wishes to ask the man under oath. 

If you want to pontificate on the case, Dog, it pays to actually know what you're talking about. You either do not (& should shut up until you do) or you're just being a dishonest twat trying to distract, deflect, and defend your man. Sad really.

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14 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:

Sorry "we" haven't moved on from collusion just yet. Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time and discuss BOTH legal issues Trump faces. As that is not a criminal case, Mueller is not investigating it. Instead, he is still looking at the collusion angle, as indicated by the questions he gave Trump's lawyers that he wishes to ask the man under oath. 

If you want to pontificate on the case, Dog, it pays to actually know what you're talking about. You either do not (& should shut up until you do) or you're just being a dishonest twat trying to distract, deflect, and defend your man. Sad really.

Why limit yourself.   I’m sure he’s committed more then two wrongdoings.

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6 hours ago, Dog said:

What it is is a strategy to find a crime.

And if none exists, none will be found. Mueller was tasked to investigate the collusion matter and any other such crimes that come out of that investigation. It behooves him to use a strategy that can "find a crime" rather than one that will "overlook a crime", regardless of how inconvenient it is for you that he do so.

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11 minutes ago, Lark said:

 Why limit yourself.   I’m sure he’s committed more then two wrongdoings.

Indeed. However Dog seems to think that because we talk about one (Trump's issue with the porn star), we've moved on from another (Trump's issue with Russian collusion). Best to keep the numbers small to avoid confusing the old bugger too much.

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2 hours ago, Raz'r said:

Poor Dog and TMSail. They bought into Hannity’s elaborate false scheme, and threw away their patriotism. 

I’d almost feel bad for them, except they are tearing the country apart.

Do they serve Mint Lemonade in your delusions?  History is going to record that the Democratic Party and loyal appointees within the hall of government tried to overthrow an elected government based on a lie.  History will not be kind to Democrats. 

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Was there some news about Donzo Jr. that broke recently?  That might explain the flurry of dancing clowns. 

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9 minutes ago, Nailing Malarkey Too said:

Do they serve Mint Lemonade in your delusions?  History is going to record that the Democratic Party and loyal appointees within the hall of government tried to overthrow an elected government based on a lie.  History will not be kind to Democrats. 

What lie?

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4 minutes ago, Lying Malarky said:

What lie?

Looks like the other Lying Malarky removed that little quote. Wonder why?

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18 minutes ago, Nailing Malarkey Too said:

Do they serve Mint Lemonade in your delusions?  History is going to record that the Democratic Party and loyal appointees within the hall of government tried to overthrow an elected government based on a lie.  History will not be kind to Democrats. 

... and next Lying Malarkey will inform us that Watergate was all a plot hatched by gays and Colin Powel’s Speech to the UN was switched st the last moment by Canadian separatists. 

The Conspiracy theories are TRUE :ph34r:

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At what point as the election approaches will nail in Malarky insist the investigation cannot end and release its findings?   After all, there is a longstanding tradition of the justice department not releasing information that might embarrass a candidate and affect election results....    or used to be, before the Democrat infiltrated partisan FBI ended it.   Or something.  

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Interesting how Hopeless Hillary Malarkey has the Dem's attempting to overthrow the government by setting up a Republican investigation into Trump.

They're pretty devious, those Dems.

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I would like to respectfully suggest that America should try and calm the Hawaii volcano by dropping Devin Nunes into the crater.

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36 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

I would like to respectfully suggest that America should try and calm the Hawaii volcano by dropping Devin Nunes into the crater.

Haven’t we mistreated the earth enough?   

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1 hour ago, Ishmael said:

I would like to respectfully suggest that America should try and calm the Hawaii volcano by dropping Devin Nunes into the crater.

Pruitt might be a better pill......

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4 hours ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

I hope they get waterboarded.

You still wouldn't get the truth out of them.

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16 minutes ago, Nailing Malarkey Too said:

The earth is a use or lose it deal you know?

What? So if we don't cut down all the trees and make Mormon temples out of them they evaporate or something? Coal is going to disappear if we don't dig it out of the ground? Better get all those fish out of the ocean, can't lose those. 

Fucking moron.

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58 minutes ago, bhyde said:

What? So if we don't cut down all the trees and make Mormon temples out of them they evaporate or something? Coal is going to disappear if we don't dig it out of the ground? Better get all those fish out of the ocean, can't lose those. 

 Fucking moron.

FWIW, Jack is not spouting mainstream Mormon belief... which leads me to believe that Jack is a member of one of the even crazier offshoots. 

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4 hours ago, Raz'r said:

Looks like the other Lying Malarky removed that little quote. Wonder why?

Post 7515.

 

But that doesn't mean he will tell us what Democrat lie he is talking about.

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1 hour ago, Bent Sailor said:

FWIW, Jack is not spouting mainstream Mormon belief... which leads me to believe that Jack is a member of one of the even crazier offshoots. 

He's not crazy - just stupid and gullible.

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Excellent segment on Tucker Carlson last night. Click the link to see it.

"TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: Do Americans have a right to know if they were spied on and why?

JONATHAN TURLEY, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY: I think that they do. These are very serious allegations and they are unprecedented. We don't know what the truth is. Maybe there was a valid reason for the investigation, maybe they used valid means. But we should want to know. 

I think what is being a case of willful blindness here is that we have confirmation that Trump was apparently correct when he said over a year ago that he had people in his campaign that were under surveillance and it turns out it was much broader than we thought. Even though people like [Former DNI James] Clapper and others in the Obama administration denied it, it does appear to be a surveillance program, it does appear to be an investigation and now you have an individual who reportedly offered to be an advisor in a campaign when he was an asset for the FBI or the CIA or both. I can't imagine what Justice official would sign off on that.

Now you can try to split this as you may, whether this is an investigation or surveillance but from Trump's standpoint there is a legitimate issue. You can tell a victim that this isn't a mugging, it's just a forced divestiture, but it sure feels like a mugging unless you can prove to the contrary".

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/21/turley_trump_was_correct_when_he_said_campaign_was_under_surveillance_legitimate_objection.html

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"The “deep state” is in a deep state of desperation. With little time left before the Justice Department inspector general’s report becomes public, and with special counsel Robert Mueller having failed to bring down Donald Trump after a year of trying, they know a reckoning is coming.

At this point, there is little doubt that the highest echelons of the FBI and the Justice Department broke their own rules to end the Hillary Clinton“matter,” but we can expect the inspector general to document what was done or, more pointedly, not done. It is hard to see how a yearlong investigation of this won’t come down hard on former FBI Director James Comey and perhaps even former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who definitely wasn’t playing mahjong in a secret “no aides allowed” meeting with former President Clinton on a Phoenix airport tarmac.

With this report on the way and congressional investigators beginning to zero in on the lack of hard, verified evidence for starting the Trump probe, current and former intelligence and Justice Department officials are dumping everything they can think of to save their reputations.

But it is backfiring.....

....Stopping Mueller isn’t about one president or one party. It’s about all presidents and all parties. It’s about cleaning out and reforming the deep state so that our intelligence operations are never used against opposing campaigns without the firmest of evidence. It’s about letting people work for campaigns and administrations without needing legal defense funds. It’s about relying on our elections to decide our differences".

Mark Penn...advisor to president Clinton during Clinton's impeachment.

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all

 

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That’s awesome. A bunch of republicans are the Deep State. He should write for the Onion. 

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"The Washington Post reported that, "The professor's interactions with Trump advisers began a few weeks before the opening of the investigation, when Page met the professor at the British symposium."

A few weeks before the opening of the investigation — those are the words that have raised eyebrows among Hill investigators. If it was before the investigation, then what was an FBI informant doing gathering undercover information when there was not yet an investigation?

The question has pointed investigators back to the issue of when the probe began — not when a piece of paper was formally signed but when the FBI, and perhaps other U.S. intelligence agencies, began investigating the Trump campaign".

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/when-did-trump-russia-probe-begin-investigators-focus-on-mystery-months

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"BREAKING: E-mails Show FBI Brass Discussed Dossier Briefing Details With CNN

New e-mails show former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe was surprisingly knowledgeable about CNN's understanding of and deliberation about a dossier briefing given to Donald Trump days before CNN ever reported on the matter.

MAY 21, 2018 By Sean Davis

Newly revealed e-mails show that former Federal Bureau Investigation (FBI) deputy director Andrew McCabe was keenly aware of CNN’s internal understanding of a secret briefing about the infamous Steele dossier, days before CNN published any stories on the matter. The e-mails, which were obtained by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.), also reveal that top officials used coded language to refer to the salacious and unverified allegations made by Steele".

 

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/21/breaking-e-mails-show-fbi-brass-discussed-dossier-briefing-details-cnn/

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1 minute ago, Dog said:

"BREAKING: E-mails Show FBI Brass Discussed Dossier Briefing Details With CNN

New e-mails show former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe was surprisingly knowledgeable about CNN's understanding of and deliberation about a dossier briefing given to Donald Trump days before CNN ever reported on the matter.

MAY 21, 2018 By Sean Davis

Newly revealed e-mails show that former Federal Bureau Investigation (FBI) deputy director Andrew McCabe was keenly aware of CNN’s internal understanding of a secret briefing about the infamous Steele dossier, days before CNN published any stories on the matter. The e-mails, which were obtained by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.), also reveal that top officials used coded language to refer to the salacious and unverified allegations made by Steele".

 

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/21/breaking-e-mails-show-fbi-brass-discussed-dossier-briefing-details-cnn/

Ooh lookie. Factual allegations instead of opinion. 

Cite?  Let’s see those emails. 

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This probably belongs in this thread - 

 

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21 hours ago, Nailing Malarkey Too said:

The 75th page anniversary deserves a commemoration ....

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Сон на Ивана

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Ohmigosh. 

Did you realize the FBI like, investigates people? And when a bunch of people are doing illegal stuff, like linking Russians up with campaign staff in order to get dirt on political opponents they don’t just march in and announce an investigation?

What is coming to this country when confidential informants are not publicly identified by law enforcement just because a bunch of rabid partisans want their names to suit their political whims?

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18 minutes ago, phillysailor said:

Ohmigosh. 

Did you realize the FBI like, investigates people? And when a bunch of people are doing illegal stuff, like linking Russians up with campaign staff in order to get dirt on political opponents they don’t just march in and announce an investigation?

What is coming to this country when confidential informants are not publicly identified by law enforcement just because a bunch of rabid partisans want their names to suit their political whims?

Rabid partisans like Jonathan Turley and Allan Dershowitz?

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27 minutes ago, phillysailor said:

Ohmigosh. 

Did you realize the FBI like, investigates people? And when a bunch of people are doing illegal stuff, like linking Russians up with campaign staff in order to get dirt on political opponents they don’t just march in and announce an investigation?

What is coming to this country when confidential informants are not publicly identified by law enforcement just because a bunch of rabid partisans want their names to suit their political whims?

Agreed. Nothing wrong with a president having his People investigate his political opponents.  Stop the presses Philly has declared Watergate null and void. 

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1 minute ago, TMSAIL said:

Agreed. Nothing wrong with having your People investigate your political opponents, when they are running for president.  Stop the presses Philly has declared Watergate null and void. 

Why do you and Dog ignore that Trump's campaign was compromised by foreign assets. For shit's sake, his campaign manager was a money launderer for Russia.   And Carter Page?  He was on the FBI's radar for a long time;

If Hillary;s campaign manager was a money launderer for the House of Saud wouldn't you have wanted the FBI/CIA to investigate?

And if Comey is such a deep state guy, how come he undermined Clinton's campaign a month before the election?

You guys are unhinged. 

 

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3 minutes ago, TMSAIL said:

Agreed. Nothing wrong with a president having his People investigate his political opponents.  Stop the presses Philly has declared Watergate null and void. 

Remind me when the FBI broke into Watergate to steal documents. I can't remember.

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5 minutes ago, bhyde said:

Remind me when the FBI broke into Watergate to steal documents. I can't remember.

Remind me how a retired professor is a member of the FBI.  Doesn’t matter though nothing wrong with using the power of president to spy on your political opponent.  FBI, operatives spy’s, undercover burglars, professors. It’s all allowed to protect the nation,  according to Philly 

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Just now, TMSAIL said:

Doesn’t matter,  nothing wrong with using the power of president to spy on your political opponent.  FBI, operatives spy’s, undercover burglars. It’s all allowed to protect the nation,  according to Philly 

Good try, but no. And yes, it does matter.

To think that Trump & Crew were not on the FBI's radar is pretty naive. Maybe we should look at how the Hillary E-mail thing got started and see if your logic holds up.

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51 minutes ago, Dog said:

Rabid partisans like Jonathan Turley and Allan Dershowitz?

Rabid partisans and attention-whores then ;) 

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46 minutes ago, Clove Hitch said:

Why do you and Dog ignore that Trump's campaign was compromised by foreign assets. For shit's sake, his campaign manager was a money launderer for Russia.   And Carter Page?  He was on the FBI's radar for a long time;

If Hillary;s campaign manager was a money launderer for the House of Saud wouldn't you have wanted the FBI/CIA to investigate?

And if Comey is such a deep state guy, how come he undermined Clinton's campaign a month before the election?

You guys are unhinged. 

 

Classic whataboutism.

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41 minutes ago, TMSAIL said:

Remind me how a retired professor is a member of the FBI.  Doesn’t matter though nothing wrong with using the power of president to spy on your political opponent.  FBI, operatives spy’s, undercover burglars, professors. It’s all allowed to protect the nation,  according to Philly 

“If you see something, say something”

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something

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1 hour ago, phillysailor said:

Ohmigosh. 

Did you realize the FBI like, investigates people? And when a bunch of people are doing illegal stuff, like linking Russians up with campaign staff in order to get dirt on political opponents they don’t just march in and announce an investigation?

indeed they do.  as long as they get a warrant to do so, it's just fine

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3 minutes ago, hermetic said:

indeed they do.  as long as they get a warrant to do so, it's just fine

Since when does one need a warrant to conduct an investigation?

 

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27 minutes ago, Dog said:

Classic whataboutism.

Better get used to it. You can expect to be whatabouted to death in a few years, when your views of the executive branch return to being restrictive. It’s gonna be fun giving you a whiff of this shit in perpetuity. 

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1 hour ago, Dog said:

Classic whataboutism.

How is it whataboutism?  Isn't the topic whether or not the FBI was justified in investigating people in the Trump campaign?  You guys seem to say there was no reason for the FBI to investigate the Trump campaign, right?

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1 hour ago, Sean said:

Since when does one need a warrant to conduct an investigation?

 

I meant in this particular investigation.  a cover your ass permission slip from a judge

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5 minutes ago, hermetic said:

I meant in this particular investigation.  a cover your ass permission slip from a judge

and they have the blessing of an American FISA court judge.  This is nothing but another spurt out of the Devin Nunes/Sean Hannity strokefest. Duck and cover!  

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38 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

and they have the blessing of an American FISA court judge.  This is nothing but another spurt out of the Devin Nunes/Sean Hannity strokefest. Duck and cover!  

I believe this all happened prior to the fisa warrant

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3 hours ago, TMSAIL said:

Remind me how a retired professor is a member of the FBI.  Doesn’t matter though nothing wrong with using the power of president to spy on your political opponent.  FBI, operatives spy’s, undercover burglars, professors. It’s all allowed to protect the nation,  according to Philly 

Possibly the stupidest comment today on the internet. 

TMSAIL, if this is an example of your logic in action, you are an idiot. STBY, dude.

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1 hour ago, Clove Hitch said:

How is it whataboutism?  Isn't the topic whether or not the FBI was justified in investigating people in the Trump campaign?  You guys seem to say there was no reason for the FBI to investigate the Trump campaign, right?

From what I can tell, is that the latest Reich wing talking points are that, if you run for President, you can commit treason and not be investigated. Or something.

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Christ almighty. If Trumpy and Fox News are allowed to peddle this deep state conspiracy horseshit to the point that it's believed by more than a few fringe-type nutters, then I have overwhelming doubts about the future of your republic. You may as well also make the flat earth theory and no-moon-landings mainstream beliefs.

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25 minutes ago, hermetic said:

I believe this all happened prior to the fisa warrant

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/11/a_timeline_of_carter_page_s_contacts_with_russia.html

That was in 2014, before there even was such a thing as the Trump campaign

You people have a serious gullible+stupid problem. Don't you remember ANYthing? Don't you ever actually -think- about anything??

-DSK

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http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/the-constitutional-crisis-is-here/ar-AAxEnRA?li=AAadgLE&ocid=ientp

"The informant was not embedded or implanted or otherwise inserted into the campaign. He was asked to contact several campaign figures whose names had already surfaced in the FBI’s counterintelligence probe. It would have been an appalling dereliction of duty not to take a look at Trump advisers with Russia ties, such as Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, when the outlines of a Russian campaign to influence the election were emerging."

People. It's called "investigation". That's what the Federal Bureau of *Investigation* actually do.

 

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3 hours ago, TMSAIL said:
3 hours ago, bhyde said:

Remind me when the FBI broke into Watergate to steal documents. I can't remember.

Remind me how a retired professor is a member of the FBI.  Doesn’t matter though nothing wrong with using the power of president to spy on your political opponent.  FBI, operatives spy’s, undercover burglars, professors. It’s all allowed to protect the nation,  according to Philly 

It's allowed when the person being investigated has actually passed State Dept documents to Russians, and bragged about being a Russian spy.

OR is it entrapment to actually investigate an actual criminal, when that criminal has an "R" behind his name?

I'm beginning to think the part of you that was supposed to be brains must have dribbled down your mama's leg

-DSK

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

It's allowed when the person being investigated has actually passed State Dept documents to Russians, and bragged about being a Russian spy.

OR is it entrapment to actually investigate an actual criminal, when that criminal has an "R" behind his name?

I'm beginning to think the part of you that was supposed to be brains must have dribbled down your mama's leg

-DSK

for someone with a reading comprehension problem, you're pretty quick with insults

where in your time line are these "state dept documents" mentioned, and where does the moron page brag about "being a russian spy"

you can use any documents you can find on the internet to back these claims up

or you can just try and live in reality and see that page is just an idiot, not a spy

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Just now, hermetic said:

or you can just try and live in reality

:lol:

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1 minute ago, SloopJonB said:

:lol:

while it's a given that you're an asshole, what have I said here that is not true?

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My comment wasn't about true or false, it was about YOU telling someone to live in reality.

:lol:

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The Founding Fathers have had enough, they're coming for Sarah Sanders.

Sinkhole opened up on White House lawn

LOL 
 
A sinkhole has developed on the White House’s north lawn, reporters observed Tuesday. 

Voice of America’s Steve Herman and Breitbart’s Charlie Spiering shared photos on Twitter of the sinkhole, which is located just outside the entrance to the briefing room.
 
View image on TwitterView image on Twitter
 

This week I’ve been observing a sinkhole on the @WhiteHouse North Lawn, just outside the press briefing room, growing larger by the day.

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Sinkhole is used for personnel disposal... simpler than firing by Tweet and less blowback is expected by the PR brains of the outfit

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1 hour ago, Nice! said:

Christ almighty. If Trumpy and Fox News are allowed to peddle this deep state conspiracy horseshit to the point that it's believed by more than a few fringe-type nutters, then I have overwhelming doubts about the future of your republic. You may as well also make the flat earth theory and no-moon-landings mainstream beliefs.

Some of these idiots ( including Mike Pence) are convinced Earth is 6,000 years old. Believing in the Deep State is not much of leap for them.

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28 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

My comment wasn't about true or false, it was about YOU telling someone to live in reality.

:lol:

did you read steamer's post?  did you find reality there?

and, clipping posts is almost as sad as using emojis

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11 minutes ago, phillysailor said:

Sinkhole is used for personnel disposal... simpler than firing by Tweet and less blowback is expected by the PR brains of the outfit

That was my first thought. Unfortunately, no one has gone missing.

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48 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

That was my first thought. Unfortunately, no one has gone missing.

It's collateral damage from the bunker construction going on under the WH lawn, where Trump and Eva Braun Melanie Melania can hide out.

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1 hour ago, badlatitude said:

That was my first thought. Unfortunately, no one has gone missing.

Anyone seen, or heard from, Kellyanne?

Not that I'm complaining....

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2 hours ago, Nice! said:

Christ almighty. If Trumpy and Fox News are allowed to peddle this deep state conspiracy horseshit to the point that it's believed by more than a few fringe-type nutters, then I have overwhelming doubts about the future of your republic. You may as well also make the flat earth theory and no-moon-landings mainstream beliefs.

We've had at least one popular news channel working for decades to blur the line between fact and opinion, to the point that we now have generations who do not know the difference between the two. When called on it, they claim to be entertainers and not journalists.    We've had at least one Presidential administration staffed by proponents of Leo Strauss, who advocated lying as a virtue and thought our government structure too weak.  We have disinformation artists here (to put it nicely) who live to blur those lines, and use every logical fallacy in the book.  

This is by no means a stretch.  

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27 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

It's collateral damage from the bunker construction going on under the WH lawn, where Trump and Eva Braun Melanie Melania can hide out.

I think that is where the last shred of our Democracy was stored.

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21 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

We've had at least one popular news channel working for decades to blur the line between fact and opinion, to the point that we now have generations who do not know the difference between the two. When called on it, they claim to be entertainers and not journalists.    We've had at least one Presidential administration staffed by proponents of Leo Strauss, who advocated lying as a virtue and thought our government structure too weak.  We have disinformation artists here (to put it nicely) who live to blur those lines, and use every logical fallacy in the book.  

This is by no means a stretch.  

"Hillary used email".

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Michael Cohen’s Business Partner Agrees to Cooperate as Part of Plea Deal

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/nyregion/michael-cohen-trump-taxi-cooperation.html

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A significant business partner of Michael Cohen, President Trump’s personal lawyer, has quietly agreed to cooperate with the government as a potential witness, a development that could be used as leverage to pressure Mr. Cohen to work with the special counsel examining Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

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1 minute ago, Sean said:

Michael Cohen’s Business Partner Agrees to Cooperate as Part of Plea Deal

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/nyregion/michael-cohen-trump-taxi-cooperation.html

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A significant business partner of Michael Cohen, President Trump’s personal lawyer, has quietly agreed to cooperate with the government as a potential witness, a development that could be used as leverage to pressure Mr. Cohen to work with the special counsel examining Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

But don't call it a search for a crime.

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4 minutes ago, Dog said:

But don't call it a search for a crime.

I would call it ........................  an investigation. 

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7 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

I would call it ........................  an investigation. 

yep, investigators investigating, is, so, I dunno. What's wrong with it again, @Dog?

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16 minutes ago, Dog said:

But don't call it a search for a crime.

Please explain how a plea deal by the business partner of a subject-of-investigation is somehow considered a search for a crime. Please use logic in your explanation.

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1 minute ago, Nice! said:

Please explain how a plea deal by the business partner of a subject-of-investigation is somehow considered a search for a crime. Please use logic.

Good luck with that. 

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12 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

I would call it ........................  an investigation. 

But not of a crime.

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7 minutes ago, Dog said:

But not of a crime.

I"m trying to understand your position, which is probably dumb on my part because there are jelly fish with more of a spine than you.

Are you saying in 2016 there was no reason or justification for the FBI to investigate ("spy!") on certain people in Trump's campaign?  Is that what you are saying?

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1 minute ago, Dog said:

But not of a crime.

You’ve got the cart before the horse dude. The whole point of a criminal investigation is to determine if there was or was not a crime. I’d like to think you’re smarter than you appear to be at times. Seems extreme partisanship has impaired your cognitive abilities. 

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30 minutes ago, Dog said:

But don't call it a search for a crime.

But the partner pled guilty, how could it not be a crime?

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