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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
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Kingstonsail

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So I visit this site usually at least a few times a week for the last 6 years.  Ive got something like 500+ posts.

 

I go to check up on a thread I was active on  (Sailing Anarchy / Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24.....) 

 

Only to find my display name since this morning has been changed from Kingstonsail to my email addy...first initial last name.  WTF !!   I know I didn't do it since posting as KIngstonsail this morning.   The system knows I didnt change it because it let me revert back to Kingstonsail without the usual 30 day waiting period between name changes.

 

So 1) warning to all.....the system seems to be able to shift your display name and 2) if you are leaving an email addy when you sign up make a fake gmail account up that doesnt identify your name.   Cause even though I have reverted "back" to Kingstonsail.....when I google my email addy I see all my posts are at the top of the google search.

 

I would really like an email from a moderator on how to fix this.

 

 

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Russians....... Man, they're everywhere!  ;)

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  Just further to this...  cause I'm a bit steamed and need to vent....

      even though I've changed back to Kingstonsail.......every post where I have been quoted in remains using my email addy as the display name  (not full addy just the important part using my last name before the @gmail.com part)

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chzech with zappato, hese beene stratforwarde and neuteralle withe me.

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Anyone gettin popups in General Anarchy using an iPhone?  One's always waiting for me in the TdF thread.  Tried to delete but no luck.

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We need a Whipping boy, who ended up filling in BJ's spot?

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2 hours ago, blunderfull said:

Anyone gettin popups in General Anarchy using an iPhone?  One's always waiting for me in the TdF thread.  Tried to delete but no luck.

This thing?   

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3 hours ago, Kingstonsail said:

 

  Just further to this...  cause I'm a bit steamed and need to vent....

      even though I've changed back to Kingstonsail.......every post where I have been quoted in remains using my email addy as the display name  (not full addy just the important part using my last name before the @gmail.com part)

I would be more worried that everyone can see your LiveFeed off yer monitor Cam or is that a lappie ??

 

Clean yer room !!!

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14 minutes ago, Lark said:

This thing?   

yup.

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4 hours ago, hobot said:

We need a Whipping boy, who ended up filling in BJ's spot?

Wasn't it LB 15?

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47 minutes ago, slap said:

Wasn't it LB 15?

Quite right, and I have been neglectful in my duties. Kingstonsail here is how to fix it - you just need to pop down to a registry office and change your name to your email address. However It might be a bit embarrassing when your name is called at the Doctors..."Mr @chickswithdicks.com the doctor will see you now..."

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But wait, isn't there a processing fee?

 

(LB, I'll of course need my percentage and will p.m. you my PayPal account info)

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

Quite right, and I have been neglectful in my duties. Kingstonsail here is how to fix it - you just need to pop down to a registry office and change your name to your email address. However It might be a bit embarrassing when your name is called at the Doctors..."Mr @chickswithdicks.com the doctor will see you now..."

I juste wacked up my wife laffeng at that........         :)

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8 hours ago, Kingstonsail said:

 

  Just further to this...  cause I'm a bit steamed and need to vent....

      even though I've changed back to Kingstonsail.......every post where I have been quoted in remains using my email addy as the display name  (not full addy just the important part using my last name before the @gmail.com part)

That's pretty fucked up. They should be taking a lot more care with your security.

There were quite a few that had this problem, I wasn't aware that it went back to your quoted posts though.

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9 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Quite right, and I have been neglectful in my duties. Kingstonsail here is how to fix it - you just need to pop down to a registry office and change your name to your email address. However It might be a bit embarrassing when your name is called at the Doctors..."Mr @chickswithdicks.com the doctor will see you now..."

I hear it only defaults back for those who signed up using an eMale account address

:-O

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13 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Quite right, and I have been neglectful in my duties. Kingstonsail here is how to fix it - you just need to pop down to a registry office and change your name to your email address. However It might be a bit embarrassing when your name is called at the Doctors..."Mr @chickswithdicks.com the doctor will see you now..."

 

   ok ...I have to thank you all for the sympathy and solid technical advice that I have come to appreciate SA is capable of over the years....

         I think it was John Lennon that said " we laugh hardest when we laugh at the plight of others"...may have that muddled.

IRregardless.....   my display name  (the very clever Kingstonsail...as I live in Kingston and sail) was replaced with my email addy

 

While changing my display name back has fixed the problem for my unique posts...my email name...which is my name....remains on all posts I have been quoted in  (which because I am eminently quotable is a lot of posts)

I would really appreciate if a moderator would contact me to discuss and try to solve this problem.

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14 hours ago, ease the sheet said:

Mods know about this. It's a problem with no obvious solution....

That's fucking adorable. If the ed wasn't such an ad whore, this wouldn't be an issue. Of all the forums I hang out on, SA is the only one that requires AdBlock to function. Sad. 

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36 minutes ago, Monkey said:

Of all the forums I hang out on, SA is the only one that requires AdBlock to function. Sad. 

      Donald Trump....is that you ?

 

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44 minutes ago, Monkey said:

 Of all the forums I hang out on, SA is the only one that requires AdBlock to function. Sad. 

This

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1 hour ago, Kingstonsail said:

 

   ok ...I have to thank you all for the sympathy and solid technical advice that I have come to appreciate SA is capable of over the years....

         I think it was John Lennon that said " we laugh hardest when we laugh at the plight of others"...may have that muddled.

IRregardless.....   my display name  (the very clever Kingstonsail...as I live in Kingston and sail) was replaced with my email addy

 

While changing my display name back has fixed the problem for my unique posts...my email name...which is my name....remains on all posts I have been quoted in  (which because I am eminently quotable is a lot of posts)

I would really appreciate if a moderator would contact me to discuss and try to solve this problem.

As a former moderator...I'm guessing you haven't logged in since the upgrade in May?

This was explained in great detail in some of the post-upgrade threads. It's a one-time thing...

The old board supported the idea of a "Login Name" and a "Display Name". Some people used the same for both and never set a Display Name. Some people, like you apparently, set a login name of your e-mail and a different display name.

The new version of the board eliminated the "Display Name". During the upgrade (which I did not do and was done by a guy I've only e-mailed with) the person doing the install was given the choice to keep Login Names, or Display Names. The guy doing the upgrade chose "Login Name" which meant that anyone that had changed their name to use a Display Name reverted back to their login name.

The only posts where you were quoted with that name were from the upgrade to may until now. Henceforth, all your quotes will be with your new name.

There wasn't much we could do about it. I'm not moderating any more, so there is little beyond telling you this I can do.

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I just got redirected when leaving this thread. It's ok though, I've learned that my iPhone has been selected to receive some fabulous prizes!

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Ad block...it's free....it works on my iEverything. Not a pop up or redirect since install. 

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1 hour ago, B.J. Porter said:

As a former moderator...I'm guessing you haven't logged in since the upgrade in May?

This was explained in great detail in some of the post-upgrade threads. It's a one-time thing...

The old board supported the idea of a "Login Name" and a "Display Name". Some people used the same for both and never set a Display Name. Some people, like you apparently, set a login name of your e-mail and a different display name.

The new version of the board eliminated the "Display Name". During the upgrade (which I did not do and was done by a guy I've only e-mailed with) the person doing the install was given the choice to keep Login Names, or Display Names. The guy doing the upgrade chose "Login Name" which meant that anyone that had changed their name to use a Display Name reverted back to their login name.

The only posts where you were quoted with that name were from the upgrade to may until now. Henceforth, all your quotes will be with your new name.

There wasn't much we could do about it. I'm not moderating any more, so there is little beyond telling you this I can do.

And bj, when you change screen names, the offending log in name remains in your name histories.

I think I'm going to blame zapata, because he's a mod, and apparently the ed's a cunt, and clean is as well and now that bj now longer works for this cunt establishment, being a cunt seems a prerequisite.....

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7 minutes ago, ease the sheet said:
1 hour ago, B.J. Porter said:

As a former moderator...I'm guessing you haven't logged in since the upgrade in May?

This was explained in great detail in some of the post-upgrade threads. It's a one-time thing...

The old board supported the idea of a "Login Name" and a "Display Name". Some people used the same for both and never set a Display Name. Some people, like you apparently, set a login name of your e-mail and a different display name.

The new version of the board eliminated the "Display Name". During the upgrade (which I did not do and was done by a guy I've only e-mailed with) the person doing the install was given the choice to keep Login Names, or Display Names. The guy doing the upgrade chose "Login Name" which meant that anyone that had changed their name to use a Display Name reverted back to their login name.

The only posts where you were quoted with that name were from the upgrade to may until now. Henceforth, all your quotes will be with your new name.

There wasn't much we could do about it. I'm not moderating any more, so there is little beyond telling you this I can do.

And bj, when you change screen names, the offending log in name remains in your name histories.

I think I'm going to blame zapata, because he's a mod, and apparently the ed's a cunt, and clean is as well and now that bj now longer works for this cunt establishment, being a cunt seems a prerequisite.....

Yeah, I know. That's what we disabled the View Name History for a while. On reflection though, it's only handful of people affected. There is a fix, but it requires some under hood tinkering that I wasn't prepared to delve into before I stepped aside.

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16 hours ago, hobot said:

But wait, isn't there a processing fee?

 

(LB, I'll of course need my percentage and will p.m. you my PayPal account info)

Don't worry about the PayPal account mate - the cheques in the mail.

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3 hours ago, Kingstonsail said:

While changing my display name back has fixed the problem for my unique posts...my email name...which is my name....remains on all posts I have been quoted in  (which because I am eminently quotable is a lot of posts)

I would really appreciate if a moderator would contact me to discuss and try to solve this problem.

Us moderators will only block you for three things.

1/ Calling someone a Pedo.

2/ Being a racist cunt like Dabs

3/ 'Outing' someone.

Since you have inadvertently posted your own name you have in fact outed yourself and so I have no option but to ban your for 7 days. 

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33 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Us moderators will only block you for three things.

1/ Calling someone a Pedo.

2/ Being a racist cunt like Dabs

3/ 'Outing' someone.

Since you have inadvertently posted your own name you have in fact outed yourself and so I have no option but to ban your for 7 days. 

Instant Klassik!!!

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I like this new Administration!

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Making CA great again!

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9 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Us moderators will only block you for three things.

1/ Calling someone a Pedo.

2/ Being a racist cunt like Dabs

3/ 'Outing' someone.

Since you have inadvertently posted your own name you have in fact outed yourself and so I have no option but to ban your for 7 days. 

Who knew that LB 15 is really Joseph Heller.

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16 hours ago, Kingstonsail said:

 

   ok ...I have to thank you all for the sympathy and solid technical advice that I have come to appreciate SA is capable of over the years....

         I think it was John Lennon that said " we laugh hardest when we laugh at the plight of others"...may have that muddled.

IRregardless.....   my display name  (the very clever Kingstonsail...as I live in Kingston and sail) was replaced with my email addy

 

While changing my display name back has fixed the problem for my unique posts...my email name...which is my name....remains on all posts I have been quoted in  (which because I am eminently quotable is a lot of posts)

I would really appreciate if a moderator would contact me to discuss and try to solve this problem.

Results?

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19 hours ago, Kingstonsail said:

 

   ok ...I have to thank you all for the sympathy and solid technical advice that I have come to appreciate SA is capable of over the years....

         I think it was John Lennon that said " we laugh hardest when we laugh at the plight of others"...may have that muddled.

IRregardless.....   my display name  (the very clever Kingstonsail...as I live in Kingston and sail) was replaced with my email addy

 

While changing my display name back has fixed the problem for my unique posts...my email name...which is my name....remains on all posts I have been quoted in  (which because I am eminently quotable is a lot of posts)

I would really appreciate if a moderator would contact me to discuss and try to solve this problem.

False assumption: the moderators read the site.

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On 2017-07-13 at 8:34 AM, My name is Legion said:

Results?

 

     the second you brought attention to this thread by reporting my post (post #18) requesting some action (which I was thankful for )   the ED sent me a PM threatening to flick me if I said another word.

     so if you dont hear from me again...you know how that went down.

 

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On 2017-07-12 at 5:13 PM, B.J. Porter said:

As a former moderator...I'm guessing you haven't logged in since the upgrade in May?

This was explained in great detail in some of the post-upgrade threads. It's a one-time thing...

The old board supported the idea of a "Login Name" and a "Display Name". Some people used the same for both and never set a Display Name. Some people, like you apparently, set a login name of your e-mail and a different display name.

The new version of the board eliminated the "Display Name". During the upgrade (which I did not do and was done by a guy I've only e-mailed with) the person doing the install was given the choice to keep Login Names, or Display Names. The guy doing the upgrade chose "Login Name" which meant that anyone that had changed their name to use a Display Name reverted back to their login name.

The only posts where you were quoted with that name were from the upgrade to may until now. Henceforth, all your quotes will be with your new name.

There wasn't much we could do about it. I'm not moderating any more, so there is little beyond telling you this I can do.

 

 

   BJ   Ive been actively posting all this week as Rimas nears his one hope at glancing past America Samoa (Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24...)......  i post in the morning and I'm kingstonsail......  I posted my guess for when Rimas calls for help.  Three hours later I was shocked to  see my email addy had replaced kingstonsail as my display name in every single post and requote since I joined.   I immediately changed my name back to kingstonsail (there is a 30day limit on changing names so the fact I could change my name to kingstonsail shows that I hadnt initiated the change)... anyway pretty screwed up.   

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2 hours ago, Kingstonsail said:

 

     the second you brought attention to this thread by reporting my post (post #18) requesting some action (which I was thankful for )   the ED sent me a PM threatening to flick me if I said another word.

     so if you dont hear from me again...you know how that went down.

 

Man, sorry about that. :(

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11 hours ago, Kingstonsail said:

 

     the second you brought attention to this thread by reporting my post (post #18) requesting some action (which I was thankful for )   the ED sent me a PM threatening to flick me if I said another word.

     so if you dont hear from me again...you know how that went down.

 

Congratulations !!!

You have accomplished what most can not

Hard to piss off the Ed with anything less than a Direct CheepShot

Mods on the other hand are sensitive to perceived thoughts unspoken 

Best to wear Hard Soul Shoes and step lightly

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 I tired to explain to the ED that while I normally could give a toss that all my texts that have been re quoted over the years are now listed under my email addy as the display name and thus searchable.....BUT that .this is not a great time as Ive applied for a few different new jobs   (empty nest this summer   both kids in uni.....   not to belabor the point but as a proud father----- both are in Canadain "ivy league"   ,,,,kinda the US equivalent to Southern North Dakota State though...  )  looking to leave kingston (fresh water sailing capital of the WORLD btw..)...for fresher fields..

anyway  back on focus here.   why cant my requotes either be deleted or put back under kingstonsail display name ?

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Come to Oz mate - I will give you a job. I only hire people with a Sailing Anarchy account. Except randumb.

I already own him.

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22 hours ago, Kingstonsail said:

 I tired to explain to the ED that while I normally could give a toss that all my texts that have been re quoted over the years are now listed under my email addy as the display name and thus searchable.....BUT that .this is not a great time as Ive applied for a few different new jobs   (empty nest this summer   both kids in uni.....   not to belabor the point but as a proud father----- both are in Canadain "ivy league"   ,,,,kinda the US equivalent to Southern North Dakota State though...  )  looking to leave kingston (fresh water sailing capital of the WORLD btw..)...for fresher fields..

anyway  back on focus here.   why cant my requotes either be deleted or put back under kingstonsail display name ?

Can you send me a link to a couple of those quotes.

Because what you are describing isn't actually how the board software works, to the best of my knowledge.

Your POSTS, when loaded, dynamically display your current user name. So if you make a post, it is attached to your "User ID" - which you never see. When that post is retrieved, the board will use that USer ID to retrieve and display your current Username, no matter the age of your post.

But when you are quoted, that quote becomes part of the message body, which includes your username at the time you were quoted. NOT the User ID.

So if your old name is "John Smith" and someone quotes you, the board stores that quote with "John Smith" as text, NOT with your "User ID". When a quote is saved, the Username at that time is is saved as text, and if you load an old post with a quote in it, the usernames in the quote are not looked up and refreshed.

I've never seen the behavior you've described, though I have seen confusing post histories where old usernames are brought forward from really old posts that don't match the present display names.

You can send them to me in a PM. Though I'm not a moderator any more, but I can take the issue up with the mod team in an intelligent fashion as I know the board pretty well and still help them out with discussion on some issues even though my accounts don't have privileges.

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On ‎7‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 4:50 PM, LB 15 said:

Us moderators will only block you for three things.

1/ Calling someone a Pedo.

2/ Being a racist cunt like Dabs

3/ 'Outing' someone.

Since you have inadvertently posted your own name you have in fact outed yourself and so I have no option but to ban your for 7 days. 

Whoa, Nellie!!,me a racist? Oh dear, that is worse than being called a Pedo. Point Break called me a motherfucker, didn't seem to bother anyone? So, what is so bad about someone being called a Pedo? Just a description for someone doing bad things. Many people do bad things.

I am truly crushed that you think I am a racist, however, now that you have the big desk:

Image result for Have it your way

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Dabnis2 said:

Whoa, Nellie!!,me a racist? Oh dear, that is worse than being called a Pedo. Point Break called me a motherfucker, didn't seem to bother anyone? So, what is so bad about someone being called a Pedo? Just a description for someone doing bad things. Many people do bad things.

I am truly crushed that you think I am a racist, however, now that you have the big desk:

Image result for Have it your way

 

 

Cunt is a term of endearment Dabs. 

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13 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Cunt is a term of endearment Dabs. 

Really?  I didn't know that, makes me feel much better. So, you are JB's replacement? Congratulations, I would have thought SV, or Bus Driver would have fought to the death for that job? In any event, don't spend all that extra money in one place.

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