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dylan winter

How long has Trump got before he resigns or is impeached?

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3 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Where's the bacon?

He's got a Jewish daughter and son in law,   I was looking for the broader market.  :D

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4 hours ago, Modernrate Buai said:

Before they worry about tapping into mining the first strikes include Pine Gap & other areas, North Korea has warned a "suicidal" Australia that Darwin could become the launch pad of a nuclear war as it plays host to the "largest scale US military presence in Australia since the Second World War". 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/35164031/darwin-could-become-launch-pad-of-nuclear-war-north-korea-warns/#page1

maybe we should tell us forces to piss off as we are fine thanks, with our great collection of Chinese warships in Darwin?

 

Mostly patrol boats built by Austral Ships in WA.

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7 hours ago, SV Airlie said:
   7 minutes ago,  chinabald said: 

Not to mention when the VP becomes the president he selects a new VP, and without looking it up I am going to say based on my limited memory of Gerald Ford, the congress votes and there resets the succession to the new VP.

 

 

No, third in succession is the speaker of the House. Nixon's VP resigned while Nixon was President. Ford was picked to be president after Agnew resigned but, at that time, Nixon was still president. Did have to be confirmed though.

And then when Nixon resigned Ford became president and then picked a new VP

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1 hour ago, Gouvernail said:

 

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Style points!

That....can...be....taken....in....so......many .....ways

Mr. Natural:)

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Dylan 

Put me down for December 7th 2018

A day that will live in infamy forever

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1 hour ago, Dorado said:

Dylan 

Put me down  December 7th 2018

 

Why wait ?

You are a total failure! By this  time in your life you could have had that PHD  or been a general or produced a new and useful product or somehow contributed to mankind but instead we have nothing from you but 5,744 posts on a crackpot's sailing website. 

Back away from the keyboard and make something of yourself!! 

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You are such a Gloofus . . . :mellow:

I built a canoe once.

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Posted (edited)

8 minutes ago, Dorado said:

You are such a G.l.o.o.f.u.s. . . .:mellow:

Thank you!! It has taken years but after all those hours it is rewarding when someone notices I am Grand Liberal outstanding orator fixing up sailboats 

Edited by Gouvernail
All hail the Gouvernail

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Well this is  surprise.

Just when you think the man with the tan is toast.... here, on this fine thinking man's forum, are lots of people saying that he will be a full term  president.

 

It seems that colluding with the Russian governement  is a along way short of being a bigly issue. Many seem content with the move on - nothing to see here defense

so

let us assume that Mueller and his team of crack lawyers (quite a speciality being a crack lawyer)  find that trump is a felonious money launderer

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-russia-investigation-scared-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

Will that be enough to remove  this hyper-liar and swamp drainer  from behind the lovely desk

Dylan

PS

his hair in the wind continues to make me nervous

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Trump's+hair+in+the+wind&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFgue8oY3VAhWEalAKHdC-B74Q7AkINg&biw=1787&bih=883

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Coming all the way across the Atlantic to join your circle jerk now.  Is Meli a pinch hitter or something?

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5 hours ago, dylan winter said:

Well this is  surprise.

Just when you think the man with the tan is toast.... here, on this fine thinking man's forum, are lots of people saying that he will be a full term  president.

 

It seems that colluding with the Russian governement  is a along way short of being a bigly issue. Many seem content with the move on - nothing to see here defense

so

let us assume that Mueller and his team of crack lawyers (quite a speciality being a crack lawyer)  find that trump is a felonious money launderer

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-russia-investigation-scared-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

Will that be enough to remove  this hyper-liar and swamp drainer  from behind the lovely desk

Dylan

PS

his hair in the wind continues to make me nervous

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Trump's+hair+in+the+wind&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFgue8oY3VAhWEalAKHdC-B74Q7AkINg&biw=1787&bih=883

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Maybe. If there's an "indictable" offense, he could be charged by the House of Representatives and convicted (hence removed) by the Senate. For that to happen, one of two things have to happen. Either there is an historical rout in the '18 elections (unlikely; of the 33 Senate seats being contested, 23 are Democrats), or the Republicans determine that it's in their best electoral interest to install Pence. 

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13 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

Where's the bacon?

For five bucks, they can add it if you want but, Jarrod can't eat pork products.

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6 hours ago, dylan winter said:

Well this is  surprise.

Just when you think the man with the tan is toast.... here, on this fine thinking man's forum, are lots of people saying that he will be a full term  president.

 

It seems that colluding with the Russian governement  is a along way short of being a bigly issue. Many seem content with the move on - nothing to see here defense

so

let us assume that Mueller and his team of crack lawyers (quite a speciality being a crack lawyer)  find that trump is a felonious money launderer

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-russia-investigation-scared-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

Will that be enough to remove  this hyper-liar and swamp drainer  from behind the lovely desk

Dylan

 

 

Think of this as a reverse Becket.   Justice and morality are irrelevant.  Becket was eliminated for obstructing your king.    Our....   not a king yet,.. will not be removed no matter how low he falls, because the power circle gains from his presence.   And our democracy has fallen to the point they don't have to,    Many who once supported Trump only to see their lot get worse will quit voting entirely,    Whether they will leave politics or seek other more violent recourse is yet to be seen.  I think it depends on how successful Congressman Ryan is.  

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Dylan, the current situation is pointing out some of the serious weaknesses in the much vaunted U.S. Constitution and system of government.

There are two big differences between the Trump situation and the Nixon situation.  One is that Trump's party holds majorities in both legislative houses, and as such, not only determines whether impeachment is possible, but controls what legislation and hearings can even be heard/held.

The other is the existence of fact free media bubbles.  Voters of both parties watched the same network news in the 70s.  Now Trump supporters can sit in front of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh all day as long as these are carrying water for Trump he will not fall much below a minimum level of support which he is probably close to right now, no matter what happens.  The very fact that Trump could even be elected despite being shown admitting to having grabbed the crotches of strange women just because he could get away with it as a celebrity was a strong illustration of this phenomenon.  While a good number of Trump voters no doubt realized exactly what this meant about what an awful person he is and chose him with this knowledge, there are probably at least as many if not more who never even listened to the actual recording but only received the version "locker room banter" sold to them by their spin media of choice and either outright refused to believe he either said or did any such thing or examined the issue closely.

The U.S. system does not give any allowance for interim Presidential elections.  The only remedies for a rogue or incompetent President are an election at the next 4 year cycle, the very very high bar of impeachment, requiring a 2/3 supermajority in the Senate for conviction/removal, and removal for lack of capacity which has not been tested.

There are no other provisions for votes of no confidence resulting in a collapse of a government in shambles and removal of its leader.  One can only wait for two year intervals for Congressional elections or 4 year intervals for Presidential elections.

Impeachment is a political, not a legal, remedy with a very high bar.  There is no requirement for the President to have violated any specific criminal statute, the "high crimes and misdemeanors" bar is really determined by the legislative body, which either has to make an ethical decision that a disaster of a President must go, or, in the case of Congressional members of the President's party, a political calculation that the cost to themselves and to their party of allowing that President to remain is greater than the cost of removing him or her.  Until something happened to cause the President's support numbers to decline substantially lower than they are now, the GOP as a Party have clearly determined that they are at least as well off if not better supporting Trump than removing him.  Either option is not great but they feel this way they at least have a chance to enact legislation towards their goals and are less guaranteed to be swept out of office by angry MAGA Redhats staying home on election day, they fear these more than being swept out of office by angry opposition voters.

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35 minutes ago, BrickTopHarry said:

Dylan, the current situation is pointing out some of the serious weaknesses in the much vaunted U.S. Constitution and system of government.

There are two big differences between the Trump situation and the Nixon situation.  One is that Trump's party holds majorities in both legislative houses, and as such, not only determines whether impeachment is possible, but controls what legislation and hearings can even be heard/held.

The other is the existence of fact free media bubbles.  Voters of both parties watched the same network news in the 70s.  Now Trump supporters can sit in front of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh all day as long as these are carrying water for Trump he will not fall much below a minimum level of support which he is probably close to right now, no matter what happens.  The very fact that Trump could even be elected despite being shown admitting to having grabbed the crotches of strange women just because he could get away with it as a celebrity was a strong illustration of this phenomenon.  While a good number of Trump voters no doubt realized exactly what this meant about what an awful person he is and chose him with this knowledge, there are probably at least as many if not more who never even listened to the actual recording but only received the version "locker room banter" sold to them by their spin media of choice and either outright refused to believe he either said or did any such thing or examined the issue closely.

The U.S. system does not give any allowance for interim Presidential elections.  The only remedies for a rogue or incompetent President are an election at the next 4 year cycle, the very very high bar of impeachment, requiring a 2/3 supermajority in the Senate for conviction/removal, and removal for lack of capacity which has not been tested.

There are no other provisions for votes of no confidence resulting in a collapse of a government in shambles and removal of its leader.  One can only wait for two year intervals for Congressional elections or 4 year intervals for Presidential elections.

Impeachment is a political, not a legal, remedy with a very high bar.  There is no requirement for the President to have violated any specific criminal statute, the "high crimes and misdemeanors" bar is really determined by the legislative body, which either has to make an ethical decision that a disaster of a President must go, or, in the case of Congressional members of the President's party, a political calculation that the cost to themselves and to their party of allowing that President to remain is greater than the cost of removing him or her.  Until something happened to cause the President's support numbers to decline substantially lower than they are now, the GOP as a Party have clearly determined that they are at least as well off if not better supporting Trump than removing him.  Either option is not great but they feel this way they at least have a chance to enact legislation towards their goals and are less guaranteed to be swept out of office by angry MAGA Redhats staying home on election day, they fear these more than being swept out of office by angry opposition voters.

"Staying home"? Yes, IIRC, I read where about 5 million, maybe more, deplorable voters stayed home, instead of voting for Romney.

Seems like in the last election, they may have voted correctly?

 

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8 hours ago, dylan winter said:

Well this is  surprise.

Just when you think the man with the tan is toast.... here, on this fine thinking man's forum, are lots of people saying that he will be a full term  president.

 

It seems that colluding with the Russian governement  is a along way short of being a bigly issue. Many seem content with the move on - nothing to see here defense

so

let us assume that Mueller and his team of crack lawyers (quite a speciality being a crack lawyer)  find that trump is a felonious money launderer

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-russia-investigation-scared-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

Will that be enough to remove  this hyper-liar and swamp drainer  from behind the lovely desk

Dylan

PS

 

We have a long history of presidential competence and incompetence and have survived.  Fortunately, our presidents cannot be quite so dictatorial as a prime minister with a solid majority.

Please note that investigations have been ongoing for over a year with leaks on a near daily basis at every level of detail and you must still post hypotheticals.

If Trump is found to be guilty of a felony it would be sufficent to have him impeached and tried in the senate.  To date, that felony exists only in the mind of some here.

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57 minutes ago, BrickTopHarry said:

Dylan, the current situation is pointing out some of the serious weaknesses in the much vaunted U.S. Constitution and system of government.

There are two big differences between the Trump situation and the Nixon situation.  One is that Trump's party holds majorities in both legislative houses, and as such, not only determines whether impeachment is possible, but controls what legislation and hearings can even be heard/held.

The other is the existence of fact free media bubbles.  Voters of both parties watched the same network news in the 70s.  Now Trump supporters can sit in front of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh all day as long as these are carrying water for Trump he will not fall much below a minimum level of support which he is probably close to right now, no matter what happens.  The very fact that Trump could even be elected despite being shown admitting to having grabbed the crotches of strange women just because he could get away with it as a celebrity was a strong illustration of this phenomenon.  While a good number of Trump voters no doubt realized exactly what this meant about what an awful person he is and chose him with this knowledge, there are probably at least as many if not more who never even listened to the actual recording but only received the version "locker room banter" sold to them by their spin media of choice and either outright refused to believe he either said or did any such thing or examined the issue closely.

The U.S. system does not give any allowance for interim Presidential elections.  The only remedies for a rogue or incompetent President are an election at the next 4 year cycle, the very very high bar of impeachment, requiring a 2/3 supermajority in the Senate for conviction/removal, and removal for lack of capacity which has not been tested.

There are no other provisions for votes of no confidence resulting in a collapse of a government in shambles and removal of its leader.  One can only wait for two year intervals for Congressional elections or 4 year intervals for Presidential elections.

Impeachment is a political, not a legal, remedy with a very high bar.  There is no requirement for the President to have violated any specific criminal statute, the "high crimes and misdemeanors" bar is really determined by the legislative body, which either has to make an ethical decision that a disaster of a President must go, or, in the case of Congressional members of the President's party, a political calculation that the cost to themselves and to their party of allowing that President to remain is greater than the cost of removing him or her.  Until something happened to cause the President's support numbers to decline substantially lower than they are now, the GOP as a Party have clearly determined that they are at least as well off if not better supporting Trump than removing him.  Either option is not great but they feel this way they at least have a chance to enact legislation towards their goals and are less guaranteed to be swept out of office by angry MAGA Redhats staying home on election day, they fear these more than being swept out of office by angry opposition voters.

nicely written Harry

that sounds like an excellent summary

there are signs that some of the uber advocates of Trump at Fox are losing patience. As a hack for three decades no journo likes to publish "facts" that trun out to be no such thing. I am sure that the Fox people are getting right pissed off with having to revise their narrative in the light of events.

I wonder if there is an education problem - people  think that their google generated echo-chamber is the world as it is.

D

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A significant detail is that mere hours after the crotch-grabbing admission went viral, wikileaks began to spew DNC matters. Look, something shiny somewhere else.

Yes on the Harry overview. 

 

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Dylan, one of the other more recent changes is in the type of politician holding office.

The old model for the GOP since the Nixon era has been for upper class patricians (Andover/Exter to Harvard/Yale is the U.S. equivalent of Eton/Harrow to Oxford/Cambridge) to get themselves elected by harnessing the votes of rubes using whatever means available to get those votes, whether it involves the candidate themselves play acting as if they were like those rubes (George W. Bush is the single best example), or stoking various shared resentments in their voting blocs, whether against "coastal/urban elites", gay people or what have you.  I think this has been rather easier to accomplish in the U.S. than in other modern Western countries because of the factor of race in U.S. society which is of course a whole huge subject in itself.  I feel that race, racism, race resentment etc. is the engine providing much of the energy in U.S. politics much as the sun is the ultimate source, whether directly or a few layers removed, of most of the energy for things going on on this planet.  But that is a tale for another time.

Now while there have always been populist yahoos in the corners of American politics, something happened in the U.S. fairly recently that resulted in a much higher proportion of those yahoos attaining elected office than in the past, including at the national level as has now happened.  I think the Fox News-ification of the U.S. public made the conditions for this possible, but I think the recent events of Sarah Palin being picked for VP by John McCain in the 2008 election, followed by the "Tea Party" wave of Congressional elections in 2010 resulted in the rubes who were used to getting worked to vote for the Bush family types thinking "why should I vote for these Ivy League assholes instead of a common sense salt of the earth type such as myself?"

How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm when they've seen gay Paree, indeed.

I think this process would have eventually resulted in a President Trump or similar, but the singular event of Palin getting a national profile as VP pick accelerated the timelilne substantially, in my opinion.  Perhaps by as much as 10 or 20 years.

By the way, this is not to say that Democratic candidates have not been largely from the same socioeconomic strata and from those same schools, because they largely have, and they have their own issue of having to reconnect with working class voters in a way that is perceived as sincere, which was a major element in this past election and will continue to be in the elections going forward.

I'm going to edit and add that it's not so much that the Presidential candidates themselves always came from the upper class, because this was certainly not true of Nixon and Reagan, but that the economic interests served by the party, once in power, were primarily those important to that class.

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11 minutes ago, BrickTopHarry said:

Dylan, one of the other more recent changes is in the type of politician holding office.

The old model for the GOP since the Nixon era has been for upper class patricians (Andover/Exter to Harvard/Yale is the U.S. equivalent of Eton/Harrow to Oxford/Cambridge) to get themselves elected by harnessing the votes of rubes using whatever means available to get those votes, whether it involves the candidate themselves play acting as if they were like those rubes (George W. Bush is the single best example), or stoking various shared resentments in their voting blocs, whether against "coastal/urban elites", gay people or what have you.  I think this has been rather easier to accomplish in the U.S. than in other modern Western countries because of the factor of race in U.S. society which is of course a whole huge subject in itself.  I feel that race, racism, race resentment etc. is the engine providing much of the energy in U.S. politics much as the sun is the ultimate source, whether directly or a few layers removed, of most of the energy for things going on on this planet.  But that is a tale for another time.

Now while there have always been populist yahoos in the corners of American politics, something happened in the U.S. fairly recently that resulted in a much higher proportion of those yahoos attaining elected office than in the past, including at the national level as has now happened.  I think the Fox News-ification of the U.S. public made the conditions for this possible, but I think the recent events of Sarah Palin being picked for VP by John McCain in the 2008 election, followed by the "Tea Party" wave of Congressional elections in 2010 resulted in the rubes who were used to getting worked to vote for the Bush family types thinking "why should I vote for these Ivy League assholes instead of a common sense salt of the earth type such as myself?"

How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm when they've seen gay Paree, indeed.

I think this process would have eventually resulted in a President Trump or similar, but the singular event of Palin getting a national profile as VP pick accelerated the timelilne substantially, in my opinion.  Perhaps by as much as 10 or 20 years.

By the way, this is not to say that Democratic candidates have not been largely from the same socioeconomic strata and from those same schools, because they largely have, and they have their own issue of having to reconnect with working class voters in a way that is perceived as sincere, which was a major element in this past election and will continue to be in the elections going forward.

That's the unspoken truth of modern politics. I'd throw religion in as a major factor as well. 

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Our fast moving elected dictatorship parliamentary system seems to have worked rather well so far.The leader is only there as long as he is able to keep the lobby fodder of his own members of parliament on board.

As soon as he/she is a threat to their jobs he is out and replaced by a new leader - often within weeks.

However, the UK left wing have changed the rules and now the leader of the labour party is elected by a few thousand members and activists of the labour party - not a step forward if you ask me.

You are not asking me of course.

Dylan

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, dylan winter said:

Our fast moving elected dictatorship parliamentary system seems to have worked rather well so far.The leader is only there as long as he is able to keep the lobby fodder of his own members of parliament on board.

As soon as he/she is a threat to their jobs he is out and replaced by a new leader - often within weeks.

However, the UK left wing have changed the rules and now the leader of the labour party is elected by a few thousand members and activists of the labour party - not a step forward if you ask me.

You are not asking me of course.

Dylan

 

 

 

Enlighten me.   When I was young the joke was the Italian government of the week,   To an outsider your Brexit process looks like a bunch of temporary governments digging a hole, then handing the shovel off and stepping out of the way for the next guy to dig a little deeper.    The building process seems limited to a bunch of competing pits.    It doesn't really look better then our system.  

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12 hours ago, jocal505 said:

A significant detail is that mere hours after the crotch-grabbing admission went viral, wikileaks began to spew DNC matters. Look, something shiny somewhere else.

Yes on the Harry overview. 

 

DNC corruption was definitely significant. Gonna take a lot of work to regain public trust.

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17 hours ago, dylan winter said:

Our fast moving elected dictatorship parliamentary system seems to have worked rather well so far.The leader is only there as long as he is able to keep the lobby fodder of his own members of parliament on board.

As soon as he/she is a threat to their jobs he is out and replaced by a new leader - often within weeks.

However, the UK left wing have changed the rules and now the leader of the labour party is elected by a few thousand members and activists of the labour party - not a step forward if you ask me.

You are not asking me of course.

Dylan

 

 

 

Well, except for World Wars I and II and all those fucking little wars resulting from your failed colonization attempts around the world.

 

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Posted (edited)

They've been pretty good since the Malaysian conflict Just the jaunt into the Falklands for the colonies Empire since really.:rolleyes:

Edited by My name is Legion
A correction

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Trump may fall over and break a hip, which would give him a good excuse to step aside... He's looking a little wobbly on his pegs these days.

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8 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

Trump may fall over and break a hip, which would give him a good excuse to step aside... He's looking a little wobbly on his pegs these days.

That was Hillary doing all the collapsing, remember?

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Attendees heading to a Republican committeevto re-elect the POTUS meeting

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15 minutes ago, My name is Legion said:

That was Hillary doing all the collapsing, remember?

Yep, Russian manufactured fake news.

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On 7/16/2017 at 3:25 AM, dylan winter said:

Well this is  surprise.

Just when you think the man with the tan is toast.... here, on this fine thinking man's forum, are lots of people saying that he will be a full term  president.

 

It seems that colluding with the Russian governement  is a along way short of being a bigly issue. Many seem content with the move on - nothing to see here defense

so

let us assume that Mueller and his team of crack lawyers (quite a speciality being a crack lawyer)  find that trump is a felonious money launderer

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-russia-investigation-scared-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

Will that be enough to remove  this hyper-liar and swamp drainer  from behind the lovely desk

Dylan

PS

his hair in the wind continues to make me nervous

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Trump's+hair+in+the+wind&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFgue8oY3VAhWEalAKHdC-B74Q7AkINg&biw=1787&bih=883

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got a new hair doo

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59 minutes ago, My name is Legion said:

That was Hillary doing all the collapsing, remember?

I think I remember that....

https://youtu.be/FVDyciOQCak

They threw her in the truck like a sack of meat

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Now I'm a fire man! RRRRRRRRRRRRRR! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

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7 minutes ago, Moderate said:

I think I remember that....

https://youtu.be/FVDyciOQCak

They threw her in the truck like a sack of meat

Interesting that rightwing links no longer work.

I wonder why?

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2 minutes ago, Moderate said:

Interesting that rightwing links no longer work

Probably realized it was a "nothing burger!"

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1 minute ago, SV Airlie said:

Probably realized it was a "nothing burger!"

But when will they realize youre a totall fuckapple

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7 minutes ago, Moderate said:

But when will they realize youre a totall fuckapple

After they realize you are. You're more obvious Then I am. You stand out like a boil on your ass.

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On 2017-07-15 at 1:00 PM, dylan winter said:

The wheels of American justice seem to grind exceedingly slow

It took 900 days to get Nixon.

How long will it take to get Trump out from behind the desk in the room with no corners?

I am going to open the bidding....

1 year from now

by July 4th 2018 he will have gone

Pence is in there deep.... so I think you blokes are going to have an election sooner than you think

Yours

old bloke in  shit boat - raining here in Suffolk

  Oh, another 6 years 6 months and give or take a few days.

  Just to answer the OP question.

 

  Background noise being treated as such.

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26 minutes ago, Dilligaf0220 said:

  Oh, another 6 years 6 months and give or take a few days.

  Just to answer the OP question.

 

  Background noise being treated as such.

Why would President Trump leave office one year before the end of a term?

Or, are you just bad at math?

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