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2 hours ago, SpittingSpume said:

I for one would like to hear the OP is fine and doing well. Just a bit off lidit for wi-fi 

 

update, please!

His boat was listed as sold on CL a month ago.

 

 

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On 31 oktober 2017 at 10:38 AM, Norse Horse said:

His boat was listed as sold on CL a month ago.

 

 

Guess he found better accomodation then. New thread- "an idiot and a cat as gigolos in suburbian Vancouver"

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Reading this was actually kind of an education. If you seriously do not have fifty bucks to your name... if cobbling together a couple hundred dollars every few months is beyond your means, then living on a boat, on the hook, is not as easy as it seems.  If you do get a job as a dishwasher, then getting to work on days when the weather is godawful is not so easy.  If your dinghy gets ripped off, you're fucked.  I've careened a Cal 20 before. It's doable, but if you can't get the money together for some bottom paint, then ???

It was interesting to think about it.  Any sort of steady income, even just $500 a month makes a massive, massive difference.

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I said that?  It must have been a rhum-fueled,  philosophical moment. 

Yay,  me! 

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Well said Ajax. 

 

Hope the Op guy is doing well.

 

not easy to get by without cash or income AND staying  legal. On my neck of the woods there is a guy who built. A little shack In a thicket just where I leave my dink going ashore. He has a fishing net in use each night and some friends coming around now and then. A lot easier in the tropics for sure, BC in. The winter may be  a wee bit less welcoming.

And the Polynesians are incredible, they haven't forgotten how to survive  as hunters and gatherers

 

 

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On 8/6/2017 at 9:06 AM, Tom Scott said:

I think it's FIRST about having that major goal - developing that vision of where YOU want to end up - and then looking at the choices you can make that may get you there.

You can start anywhere.  If washing dishes is what you do now, then that is what you do - but is washing dishes forever going to help you achieve your goal(s)?  Probably not. So, then, you must figure out how to move beyond washing dishes to make your living. You could try to go back to school, or learn a trade.  Look for opportunities to meet and talk with people who are doing the things you'd like to do, or who have already reached a goal you are aiming for. Many folks who have worked their way up toward success are happy to share their stories and lessons. There will be plenty to learn even though they are older, and times have changed. You will be surprised by how many times most people fail, and adjust, and just push ahead on their path toward success. You will come to appreciate the level of focus and work it will take - but most importantly, you will realize that YOU can do it, too!  

It would be great if you could find a mentor, an older person who is in whatever field that interests you and who is willing to guide you and help you focus on those things that will lead you toward success. It is important that you find something you are capable of enjoying and being good at. If you can do that, it will be much easier to become the best at what you do - and being "among the best" is one key to enjoying the success necessary to help you reach your goals. 

In the meantime, strive to be the best at whatever you are doing now. Be the best damn dishwasher the restaurant manager ever hired!   Your attitude defines you.

I am currently mentoring a young couple - and the young man is 25 years old. He has worked in the food service industry all his life (.his parents own a restaurant), and he bused tables, became a waiter, and eventually managed - all at places his parents didn't own. He was making a couple hundred dollars a night on tips, but he wanted more from life. His work ethic showed everywhere he went.  Based almost entirely on his attitude and work ethic, he got a job with a major home and kitchen remodeling company as a salesman. They trained him - and he studied hard.  He works on straight commission - his success is entirely in his hands. He got married this past November, and started his new job in December. He is tearing it up!  He is already among the top salesman in his company, and he has sold over $500,000 worth of remodel wok in just seven months. He makes a 10% commission, and is continuing to charge ahead. He and his wife have their own small home, and she works for the County and brings good benefits and a small but steady salary to their mix. The young man will not be a remodeling salesman forever, but his success there will absolutely open new doors for him down the line. He has a goal to live on the water someday with a boat in his backyard, to have children, and enjoy a high quality of life with his wife and family. He works hard, plays hard, and focuses on those things that will help him move forward.  I have been helping his wife pay for college and get out of debt - and both my wife and I are offering them advice and assistance wherever we can. But they are the ones with the goals and dreams, and they are working toward them together.  He has plans, and is learning, working, and saving for the future. He and his wife are on a great path toward achieving their goals because they know what they want, and are finally working to get there,  You can do the same!   Decide where you want to end up, and then determine what steps will be necessary to lead you there by talking to people who have already done it. There is no ONE right way, but there are a lot of dead ends you can avoid with the advice of a good mentor.

Finally, when you arrive at your desired destination ...stop ...turn around ...and extend a helping hand outward to the next generation working to follow in your footsteps by whatever means you are capable of. When you do that, you will know the true value of what you have accomplished.  Maybe take some young folks sailing on your sailboat, and talk about how they might have a good life? 

 

Tom - that is great advice thank you for posting.

 

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FYI, I'm 99.9% sure this boat in the OP went up on the beach here very recently (and was taken away) .  

Oh well, somewhere there's another (and another, and another...) timeless, old, virtually indestructible, small fibreglass yacht in search of a caretaker...

Amd with that - happy new year to all!  May your wildest yachting dreams, and none of your nightmares, come true this year! :-)

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Damn.

There actually is a finite number of these old boats and as time grinds on, we'll eventually run out of inexpensive, entry level boats for newcomers.

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4 hours ago, Ajax said:

Damn.

There actually is a finite number of these old boats and as time grinds on, we'll eventually run out of inexpensive, entry level boats for newcomers.

Good point.  Speaking of time grinding on, I believe it was economist/thinker John Kenneth Galbraith whose mordant humour produced the famous quip (putting a humorous spin on the technical terms in economics):

"In the long run, we're all dead."

:-)

BTW, on the topic of new-old, cheap entry-level fiberglass sailboats, ya gotta watch the documentary "Hold Fast".  These 'kids' amply demonstrate that it's fairly easy to find and refit such boats on the cheap, if committed.  (We're doing/did similarly, as one of the legs of the 3-legged stool of our adventurous life.  We may yet win the Dirtbag Award... :-) )

"Hold Fast":  

 

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On 10/31/2017 at 11:34 AM, SpittingSpume said:

I for one would like to hear the OP is fine and doing well. Just a bit off lidit for wi-fi 

 

update, please!

It's been a while guys, sorry for the lack of updates. Here's one to make up for it. 

 

I ran across someone by crazy coincidence who recognized my facial features.... they went to high school with my dad 30-odd years ago and hadn't heard from or seen him since. Turns out they have a nice home on bowen and a dog and two other cats. They agreed to take care of Mistral for a while, and it turns out she's pretty okay with being on land too. It was going to be temporary at first just while I was in Vancouver looking for work but after a while she was becoming part of their little family, so I decided to let her stay. Mistral had one hell of a ride, starting off in a downtown east side crack den and then bouncing onto a few friend's boats and then mine after a rescue. Stings a lot, but I'm happy she's found a good home at last. If that's the only good thing to come out of this adventure then I think it was worth it.

Going to miss her.

 

The boat's gone too. Sold it to a fairly enthusiastic guy, but I haven't been to bowen or heard from him in about 5 or 6 months now. Not sure if it's sunk or still floating, I hope the latter. 

 

I've had a little bit of luck (I'm no longer up to my neck in debt, but only up to my shoulders). Paying this off is a long slow process, and there's not much I can do to speed it up. Oh well, right? Worked a few more odd jobs, here in Van. After I sold the boat i was living in the back of a cube truck that i was driving for a film job, then bought my own van to live in while I worked, that broke down (oh surprise surprise), and I finally got a small room in an apartment, and have been working a regular job for about three months now. 

Unfortunately, life kicks you while you're down, and this place is due to get demolished this spring to be turned into a large (expensive) apartment building, along with the vacant lot next door. So, I'm heading out of BC. Going to see my family in Northern Ontario, and hopefully pay off the rest of my debt there. After that? Who knows, maybe I can even get back to chasing my dreams. We do have a lake south of town that's about 10 km long and 4 wide, and my dad has a small dinghy in unknown condition. The ice is off the lake there about 5 months of the year, so there's a bit of a fix to be had. 

 

Hope all is well, if anyone knows of a surefire way to win the lottery or has a free boat, hit me up. 

 

I don't know if I can change the title but it's just "An Idiot" now. 

 

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On 12/31/2017 at 10:09 AM, Jud - s/v Sputnik said:

FYI, I'm 99.9% sure this boat in the OP went up on the beach here very recently (and was taken away) .  

Oh well, somewhere there's another (and another, and another...) timeless, old, virtually indestructible, small fibreglass yacht in search of a caretaker...

Amd with that - happy new year to all!  May your wildest yachting dreams, and none of your nightmares, come true this year! :-)

I'd be interested to know if it was old Amrak. I head a similar rumor from a friend who heard it from a friend, but then later they said it was refloated?

 

On 11/3/2017 at 11:28 AM, SpittingSpume said:

Guess he found better accomodation then. New thread- "an idiot and a cat as gigolos in suburbian Vancouver"

My life as a gigalo would be so much better with a cat by my side

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You'll be back sooner than you think(If you want to be!)
I've been down the same path(though substitute storage locker and later an ex ambulance for the vans).    It's taken me more years than I'd have expected, but I'm hoping to be buying a boat sometime in the next year or two.  Getting out of Van is key, cost of living to income ratio there is horrible.  

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7 hours ago, jgbrown said:

You'll be back sooner than you think(If you want to be!)
I've been down the same path(though substitute storage locker and later an ex ambulance for the vans).    It's taken me more years than I'd have expected, but I'm hoping to be buying a boat sometime in the next year or two.  Getting out of Van is key, cost of living to income ratio there is horrible.  

ain't that the truth

 

https://censusmapper.ca/maps/897#7/45.248/-79.816 the link maps the "median multiple" across canada based on 2016 census data.  the City of vancouver has a median multiple of 16.8!!!  greater sudbury (northern ontario) 3.55.  The OP needs to get him some northern ontario.

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54 minutes ago, Chunks Ahoy said:

Shoulda scuttled that bitch in a pass in FLA. Would have washed all your problems away. 

Right?!  Where did I go wrong spending a couple years and 20k outfitting my Alberg 30 then staying in the industry so I would eventually know enough to make my boat safe... Shoulda just sailed right out of Vancouver, got in a fucking wreck and been better off outta the deal.  

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42 minutes ago, jgbrown said:

Right?!  Where did I go wrong spending a couple years and 20k outfitting my Alberg 30 then staying in the industry so I would eventually know enough to make my boat safe... Shoulda just sailed right out of Vancouver, got in a fucking wreck and been better off outta the deal.  

Yeah, I think the key is to arrange to be an idiot someplace that has waist-deep warm water.  

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6 minutes ago, toddster said:

Yeah, I think the key is to arrange to be an idiot someplace that has waist-deep warm water.  

And also to be 23 years old and potentially willing to skinny dip on camera.

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Hey Friends,

Been a while but I'm back in Northern Ontario with the family and rapidly chipping away at my debt, but in-between work it's sailing time! I've been crewing on an E -scow at the local yacht club but My dad's loaning me his little National E/Lazy E dinghy. I'll try and get some pics but if you aren't familiar with it, it's 16 or 17 feet or so, fractional rig, can fly a spinnaker but I don't have one, and is meant for a crew of two. OK condition except the centreboard vibrates when you get going fast enough, not sure what that's about. 

 

I'm wondering what I can do to sail it solo (nobody else is too interested in sailing it with me). I don't want to try and sew reefpoints in unless absolutely necessary. Could I stick a couple sandbags in the bottom of the boat and call it a day? I only weigh about 175lbs, and here in northern Ontario it frequently gets quite gusty (20-30knots, some days). Only concern is that if I DO capsize it (and i'm sure it's only a matter of time) the sandbags might make it hard to right. Idk. 

 

On 3/17/2018 at 12:13 AM, IStream said:

And also to be 23 years old and potentially willing to skinny dip on camera.

Lmao, I love being a guy but I think it's going to hurt my options here :P

 

On 3/16/2018 at 9:53 AM, chester said:

ain't that the truth

 

https://censusmapper.ca/maps/897#7/45.248/-79.816 the link maps the "median multiple" across canada based on 2016 census data.  the City of vancouver has a median multiple of 16.8!!!  greater sudbury (northern ontario) 3.55.  The OP needs to get him some northern ontario.

You are/were definitely right. I'm taking advantage of living with the family for now, but things are rapidly looking up. Might even be debt-free by October/November!

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