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Just now, Gouvernail said:

It is traditional in PA to only read and process those statements that contribute to the reader's pre-established position. 

No truer words have ever been spoken here.

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Just now, Shootist Jeff said:

No truer words have ever been spoken here.

I just quoted your statement because it agrees with what I thought before I read what you wrote about agreeing with what I wrote about agreeing with what we find is agreeable and available here. 

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1 hour ago, Shootist Jeff said:

You would understand if you bothered to read more than you project.  I've written numerous novels about what I think about the people already here and what we should do with them and how to move forward.  If you would rather mind read and ascribe positions to me that don't exist. fill yer boots.

In the meantime, I'm going to start calling you "projection" steamer.  I'm not the only one here who has called you out on this.  Maybe time to look in a mirror....  Just saying.

I read what you wrote.

Just sayin

-DSK

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11 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:
13 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

You would understand if you bothered to read more than you project.  I've written numerous novels about what I think about the people already here and what we should do with them and how to move forward.  If you would rather mind read and ascribe positions to me that don't exist. fill yer boots.

In the meantime, I'm going to start calling you "projection" steamer.  I'm not the only one here who has called you out on this.  Maybe time to look in a mirror....  Just saying.

I read what you wrote.

Just sayin

-DSK

Oh yeah?  What did I say then that you think is so bad?  I have clearly and numerously said that we need to deal with the people already here.  It doesn't mean I like it and it doesn't mean I'm going to kiss their ass and thank them for sneaking into my country.  If I were in charge, I would deal with the situation in a pragmatic way and its not pragmatic to deport 13 million people.  So it is what it is.  I would give them legal status and allow them to continue working and living in the US.  They can then apply for citizenship like everyone else, starting at the back of the line.  If they don't like that, then they can GTFO.  In the meantime, It doesn't stop them from being ILLEGAL until that changes.  And if they get caught breaking any further laws or come into contact with LEO and end up deported, then too fucking bad.  

Back to the topic of the thread re sanctuary cities.  I don't not want local LEO hunting down illegals and asking every brown person on the street for their papers.  They have more important things to do.  However, IF they end up with an illegal alien in custody for some other reason and its determined that they are here illegally - I do expect them to call ICE and ask what they want to do with them.  If ICE says they will come pick them up - then great.  That's one less meal the local jail has to buy on the city's dime.  If ICE says they're not interested, then so be it.  But cities who's mayor specifically forbids LEO to work with ICE - then I absolutely think their federal $$ should get cut off and I think the FedGov has every right to do so.  Its absolutely no different than the Feds threatening to cut off funding to schools who violate title IX over the whole tranny bathroom issue.  You guys can't have it both ways.

 

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5 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

Oh yeah?  What did I say then that you think is so bad?  I have clearly and numerously said that we need to deal with the people already here.  It doesn't mean I like it and it doesn't mean I'm going to kiss their ass and thank them for sneaking into my country.  If I were in charge, I would deal with the situation in a pragmatic way and its not pragmatic to deport 13 million people.  So it is what it is.  I would give them legal status and allow them to continue working and living in the US.  They can then apply for citizenship like everyone else, starting at the back of the line.  If they don't like that, then they can GTFO.  In the meantime, It doesn't stop them from being ILLEGAL until that changes.  And if they get caught breaking any further laws or come into contact with LEO and end up deported, then too fucking bad.  

Back to the topic of the thread re sanctuary cities.  I don't not want local LEO hunting down illegals and asking every brown person on the street for their papers.  They have more important things to do.  However, IF they end up with an illegal alien in custody for some other reason and its determined that they are here illegally - I do expect them to call ICE and ask what they want to do with them.  If ICE says they will come pick them up - then great.  That's one less meal the local jail has to buy on the city's dime.  If ICE says they're not interested, then so be it.  But cities who's mayor specifically forbids LEO to work with ICE - then I absolutely think their federal $$ should get cut off and I think the FedGov has every right to do so.  Its absolutely no different than the Feds threatening to cut off funding to schools who violate title IX over the whole tranny bathroom issue.  You guys can't have it both ways.

 

maybe It's just late, but these two statements seem somewhat contradictory..or did you mean the bit in red literally...like getting a jay walking citation?

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7 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

...     ...    ...  However, IF they end up with an illegal alien in custody for some other reason and its determined that they are here illegally - I do expect them to call ICE and ask what they want to do with them.

For punishment, got it.

How is local law enforcement supposed to determine who is ILLEGAL? By the way they look? This is fuckin' America, I don't have my proof of citizenship papers on me at all times when I leave the house. Perhaps you have lived elsewhere for long enough to have forgotten that part.

-DSK

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