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On the plus side, the Bears are the only ones with a unique place in their conference. :D

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19 hours ago, Monkey said:

On the plus side, the Bears are the only ones with a unique place in their conference. :D

Give the Lions a chance to catch up - you can't break shatter hope unless you build it up first, although with Bears *2 / Browns / Bengals in the second half it might be tougher to go 6-2 / 2-6 this year.  Maybe they will just get the losses in early.

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Yawn............those are a pair of really struggling offenses.......

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Only watched a bit of the Thursday night game. It seemed like 2 teams that were struggling to find their identity. It is going to be an interesting year. I don't think there is a clear favorite for the SB, despite what the media says. Patriots got exposed in their first game, Hawks struggled against the Packers and vice versa. Dallas has a pretty good chance to the way of the predictions (and I hate that)

The first 4 weeks are really going to separate the wheat from the chaff and let people know who are the contenders vs the pretenders.

 

WL

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both those teams last night need to spend a lot more money on their offensive lines... 

 

There seems to be an over abundance of really lousy teams in the league..  it's the whole salary cap system that's fucked..

superstars are demanding so much money , teams cut all their veteran players to go with cheaper replacements..  offensive line is where most of the cuts are made..   shitty quarterbacks are exposed for what they are, shitty..  no time to throw , no time to think.. 

 

 

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On 8/9/2017 at 5:11 PM, HalyardsHigh said:

This was by far one of the best stories to come out of the whole Kaepernick fiasco!

He won't be signed because wherever he goes, he'll split the locker room, the fanbase, and damn near the entire city in two. Politics need to be left out of sports it's getting ridiculous. Although apparently he did get a reasonable offer but turned it down because it was "backup money" and he considers himself above that

This. I've lost complete interest in football. It turned from a sport to little more than entertainment, which is something I can easily turn off, and have. Piss on 'em. 

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3 minutes ago, blunderfull said:

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Bolts home opener.

Didn't sell out a 27,000 seat stadium.........:lol:

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On 9/14/2017 at 3:42 AM, Tax Man said:

Give the Lions a chance to catch up - you can't break shatter hope unless you build it up first, although with Bears *2 / Browns / Bengals in the second half it might be tougher to go 6-2 / 2-6 this year.  Maybe they will just get the losses in early.

I wouldn't sweat the Bengals too hard until they've actually scored a touchdown this year.

Though we shitcanned our offensive coordinator, because he was a fucking idiot, and moved our QB coach to OC. We'll see how that works out - there is a stunning amount of talent on the team that is being painfully mismanaged. No guarantee this go can make it work.

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5 hours ago, B.J. Porter said:

I wouldn't sweat the Bengals too hard until they've actually scored a touchdown this year.

Though we shitcanned our offensive coordinator, because he was a fucking idiot, and moved our QB coach to OC. We'll see how that works out - there is a stunning amount of talent on the team that is being painfully mismanaged. No guarantee this go can make it work.

We are in a similar position here in Seattle. Daryl Bevell is thought to be an idiot by most of the fans. Yesterday it got so bad that, on our only touchdown, you could see Wilson tapping his helmet like his headset wasn't working and did a bit of play calling on his own to get them down the field.

Our Defense is back to form and going to give other teams fits. But I am going to sweat the Offense all season. 5 dropped passes, 2 that would have been touchdowns. An O line that needs to gel quickly or let Russell just play action run with it until they start. I think he put the rest of the league on notice last night that he is back, fast and they will have to account for him.

Hawks have a winnable schedule for the next 7 weeks before facing the Falcons (who destroyed the Packers last night) here. Road games against Titans, Rams, Giants and Cardinals. Home games against Colts, Texans, and Redskins. They will need to get the Offense rolling to do it, but its doable.

 

Watching Aaron Rogers get his ass whipped last night was good fun. He's a bit too arrogant for my liking.

 

WL

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Broncos D looking badass.  Boys got found out.  Chargers played Denver tough - taking that 4 moral victory....agst Miami yesterday was f'ed at end but Ajayi is a stud.  Stop him = u stop Fish.  Cutler did what they wanted & didn't turn it over.

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5 hours ago, White Lightnin' said:

We are in a similar position here in Seattle. Daryl Bevell is thought to be an idiot by most of the fans. Yesterday it got so bad that, on our only touchdown, you could see Wilson tapping his helmet like his headset wasn't working and did a bit of play calling on his own to get them down the field.

Our Defense is back to form and going to give other teams fits. But I am going to sweat the Offense all season. 5 dropped passes, 2 that would have been touchdowns. An O line that needs to gel quickly or let Russell just play action run with it until they start. I think he put the rest of the league on notice last night that he is back, fast and they will have to account for him.

Hawks have a winnable schedule for the next 7 weeks before facing the Falcons (who destroyed the Packers last night) here. Road games against Titans, Rams, Giants and Cardinals. Home games against Colts, Texans, and Redskins. They will need to get the Offense rolling to do it, but its doable.

 

Watching Aaron Rogers get his ass whipped last night was good fun. He's a bit too arrogant for my liking.

 

WL

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You drop that "touchdown" thing so casually. We've not had a Bengal in the endzone yet this season after two games...

Our O-Line may be our unfixable problem. We let two of our top veterans and team leaders go in free agency (Whitworth and Zeitler) and have replaced them with rookies and unproven second-year guys. It's not clear yet if last year's first-round draft pick Cedric Ogbuehi is actually capable of the job.

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On 9/13/2017 at 0:42 PM, Tax Man said:

Give the Lions a chance to catch up - you can't break shatter hope unless you build it up first, although with Bears *2 / Browns / Bengals in the second half it might be tougher to go 6-2 / 2-6 this year.  Maybe they will just get the losses in early.

Lions are lucky.  They get to play the Bears twice.  That should help the Lions record immensely.  (And I am a Bears fan.)

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Woody..........wasn't that last year and you posted it then. You're kinda fixated on that..................

Rum........I'm only sorry the Bears finally scored at the end of the game. Glennon is a backup QB who Fox and Pace made a mistake signing as the starter. The bigger mistake is to stubbornly refuse to acknowledge that and get started with Trubisky who at least has a chance of being the franchise QB. I doubt Glennon will ever be more than a capable backup.  The good news is the longer Fox/Pace is stubborn about that the more likely Glennon will leave and the more likely Fox/Pace will get walking papers as well. Then if its gonna be a bad season, which it will be, might as well let Trubisky get some NFL game experience so he can develop this season. 

On the up side the cheeseheads loss was very satisfying.............. 

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I want to know who Glennon's agent is. 18 million guaranteed this year for a guy that moves in slow motion.

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2 hours ago, Point Break said:

Woody..........wasn't that last year and you posted it then. You're kinda fixated on that..................

Rum........I'm only sorry the Bears finally scored at the end of the game. Glennon is a backup QB who Fox and Pace made a mistake signing as the starter. The bigger mistake is to stubbornly refuse to acknowledge that and get started with Trubisky who at least has a chance of being the franchise QB. I doubt Glennon will ever be more than a capable backup.  The good news is the longer Fox/Pace is stubborn about that the more likely Glennon will leave and the more likely Fox/Pace will get walking papers as well. Then if its gonna be a bad season, which it will be, might as well let Trubisky get some NFL game experience so he can develop this season. 

On the up side the cheeseheads loss was very satisfying.............. 

That's the Highlights of the last game in DAGO = SUCKING a LOSS out of the Raiders 

a Lasting memory if you will

I won't intentionally turn my head to see them on the next screen over in a bar

as long as DAGO-News stations keep covering the fuckers as if anyone here cares about them

I Shall Keep Posting that little Offensive Double handed Hall of Fame charger Sausage Twirler ;)

I realize you now like them as they are YOUR Team :o:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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I'd say something about the Raiders but for their opponent  road kill this week being the Jets. Have to wait for them to play a football team. 

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10 hours ago, White Lightnin' said:

We are in a similar position here in Seattle. Daryl Bevell is thought to be an idiot by most of the fans. Yesterday it got so bad that, on our only touchdown, you could see Wilson tapping his helmet like his headset wasn't working and did a bit of play calling on his own to get them down the field.

Our Defense is back to form and going to give other teams fits. But I am going to sweat the Offense all season. 5 dropped passes, 2 that would have been touchdowns. An O line that needs to gel quickly or let Russell just play action run with it until they start. I think he put the rest of the league on notice last night that he is back, fast and they will have to account for him.

Hawks have a winnable schedule for the next 7 weeks before facing the Falcons (who destroyed the Packers last night) here. Road games against Titans, Rams, Giants and Cardinals. Home games against Colts, Texans, and Redskins. They will need to get the Offense rolling to do it, but its doable.

 

Watching Aaron Rogers get his ass whipped last night was good fun. He's a bit too arrogant for my liking.

 

WL

 Didja notice that Green Mile dude playing right tackle for the Niners? Trent Brown. Listed at six eight, three sixty. The six eight seems about right, but I would be willing to bet he's really three eighty. His listed weight is the measured weight he had coming out of HS and if he hasn't bulked up from then it would be a miracle. A fuckin' Sasquatch and the nicest kid you can ever hope to meet. 

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5 hours ago, Point Break said:

Woody..........wasn't that last year and you posted it then. You're kinda fixated on that..................

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mark K said:

 Didja notice that Green Mile dude playing right tackle for the Niners? Trent Brown. Listed at six eight, three sixty. The six eight seems about right, but I would be willing to bet he's really three eighty. His listed weight is the measured weight he had coming out of HS and if he hasn't bulked up from then it would be a miracle. A fuckin' Sasquatch and the nicest kid you can ever hope to meet. 

Yep. Pretty cool storyline with him. Niners are going to be a good team this year and a contender next year. The rivalry wont be as much fun without Harbaughs sideline meltdowns and CK turnovers. But it is going to be a battle whenever these two teams meet!

 

WL

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2 hours ago, White Lightnin' said:

Yep. Pretty cool storyline with him. Niners are going to be a good team this year and a contender next year. The rivalry wont be as much fun without Harbaughs sideline meltdowns and CK turnovers. But it is going to be a battle whenever these two teams meet!

 

WL

 I think the niners are going to suck, and for the foreseeable future. I don't make too much of Seattle having a tough time with them though, they always start slow and that worst O line in football thingy hasn't quite gone away yet. 

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With a new coach and a new GM, they are starting from scratch for sure. But  that GM is John Lynch. Who for the last 5 years was a color commentator for Fox Sports. During that time he did a sneaky, and somewhat brilliant, thing. On media days he sat with Pete Carroll and picked his brain. Getting in depth knowledge of the Seahawks organization and how it had been built. Pete has mentioned on several occasions that the shared more with John then he had any other media. He thought at the time the guy was just being very thorough. So I see 9ers having some really good tools in place and now they need to create an offense. Their D is pretty solid on the line and needs some downfield help. But keep an eye on them

 

WL

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You have all had your moment to savor the Pats with the worst record in the league.  Now it is over.  Take a look at all of the years that they started 0-1, and won the Super Bowl.  Kapernik should not be reviled for sitting sitting during the anthem, but the pigs in police uniforms on his socks is another thing entirely. 

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1 hour ago, NaptimeAgain said:

Haven't watched most of any game so far.  

Haven't watched Any game this year

haven't missed any of it

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2 hours ago, IrieMon said:

Heard the LA Chargers parking price is $100 per vehicle....  wtf ?     How much was it back in Dago ?

$25 car or motorcycle in DAGO, $125 for an RV

Rose-bowl & Dodger Stadium $50 for a 45' Limo Bus

the Fucking Sucking chargers were out to FUCK someone, anyone

LA Bent Over and spread their Checks

Fuck Them !!!!!!

 

 

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On 8/30/2017 at 3:55 PM, B.J. Porter said:

All I can say as a Bengals fan is...screw the NFL. If only Vontaze Burfict would just beat his wife in public or something or deflate a few balls, instead of playing old school, smashmouth football. Then we wouldn't have problems with him getting suspended for legal hits, or receiving sentences far in extreme of what other players get.

Gotta make an example of him, I suppose. So bumping a receiver w/in five yards of the LoS isn't a suspending offense, unless your name rhymes with "Montays Murfict."

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a thug, he's a goon, he should in a house fire and all that other shit we hear from haters around the NFL. I've watched the guy play a lot; he's 110% energized on field and nigh unstoppable, and he's knocked off the shit he did in the first couple of seasons. Doesn't matter though.

He played his college ball against us, and maybe it's a matter of perspective, but his "smashmouth football" looked pretty excessive from where I was sitting.  I wasn't wishing for a house fire but I felt all the unnecessary roughness and targeting penalties were justified. 

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5 hours ago, pbd said:

He played his college ball against us, and maybe it's a matter of perspective, but his "smashmouth football" looked pretty excessive from where I was sitting.  I wasn't wishing for a house fire but I felt all the unnecessary roughness and targeting penalties were justified. 

He did some dumb stuff a few years back. He's been clean but aggressive on the field the last few years, but they flag him aggressively and punish him after the fact for stuff not even flagged in the game. THere were two Steelers last week that committed flagrant and aggressive fouls that looked intent to harm - including Rapistburger twisting a guy's ankle. Think any of them got time off? Nope...

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A friend shared this point, and I doubted the accuracy - until I checked the stats.

The Cincinnati Bengals, with 4.5 points/game, are the 22nd best offense...........................in Major League Baseball.  The Brewers, in 21st place, average 4.59.

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The Darkest, Saddest Place in Sports: A Los Angeles Chargers Home Game
Michael Hafford

MICHAEL HAFFORD

Sep 19 2017, 6:15am
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Photo by Michael Hafford

We ventured into the StubHub Center for the Chargers home opener in Los Angeles this weekend. It was not for the fainthearted. Or really for anybody.

The Chargers are the saddest franchise in the history of sports. We don't give them enough credit. Maybe because San Diego was too sunny, or maybe because they never quite sink to the depths of the Cleveland Browns or the Philadelphia 76ers, but if you ask any Chargers fan they will immediately rattle off a litany of heartbreak that I would challenge anyone outside Buffalo to adequately match.

Last Sunday, the Chargers played their first regular season game in a city that doesn't want them to a tiny stadium half-full of opposing fans. Even in the parking lot at StubHub Center, the 27,000 seat home of Major League Soccer's Los Angeles Galaxy, the gap was obvious. Visiting Miami Dolphins jerseys dominated.

 

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Chargers jerseys were hard to come by at the home opener. Photo by Michael Hafford.

StubHub, by the way, is an excellent place to see a football game. Since the venue is about a third the capacity of a typical NFL stadium, there's no upper deck and therefore no bad seats. It's like seeing football in a nightclub. Not that any Chargers fans noticed; hardly anyone came. I walked up to the box office about a half hour before kickoff and was moderately shocked to learn that I could still buy seats for $160. I say shocked, but I wasn't surprised; the stands were at about 60% capacity until the end of the first quarter.

The Chargers fans who did show up were nearly universally dejected. Before the game, a plane flew over Carson's StubHub Center carrying a banner reading "WORST OWNER IN SPORTS? DEAN SPANOS, PAY YOUR RENT!" The banner wasn't alone. I heard numerous calls for Spanos to sell the team and saw at least one shirt—in the Chargers' font no less—calling for the sale of the franchise.

Tim Finley, who could well be a member of the Fraternal Order of Real Beard Santas, was decked from head to toe in Chargers-branded apparel. He's been a season ticket holder for 32 years but sold all his games but this one.

"It's like having been married and having the woman walk out on you," he said of the team's move up to Los Angeles.

He attributes the move to greed on the part of the Spanos family, claiming the franchise increased in value from $800 million to $1.5 billion. He's wrong, but he's on the low end: the value went from $1.5 billion to $3 billion.

Another fan, Jonathan Giuliano, understood the move. He's 32 years old and has been a fan since birth. Uncharacteristically for the fans I spoke with, he was sanguine about the team's prospects.

"The city of San Diego didn't support the team like other NFL teams," he said. "There are lots of fans from [Los Angeles]. We have a QB, we're not starting from scratch. Nobody wants to be a Rams fan."

Dolphins fans, not notorious for traveling well, or even attending their team's home games, filled at least half the stadium. "Let's go Dolphins" chants broke out more often than their Chargers' equivalents. One came during the walk through the opening gates. I sat next to Marc Caress, a very friendly 43-year-old county attorney and Dolphins fan with a salt-and-pepper beard who said the sparse attendance was about the same as a typical Galaxy regular season game—he's a season ticket holder.

 

The Chargers managed to mess things up for the Galaxy, too, as the NFL-mandated that they replace metal bleachers with folding seats at StubHub, resulting in higher ticket prices for soccer fans—in some cases as much as $100 higher. The beer got more expensive, too, in the space of a day, from $13 at Galaxy games to $14 for Chargers games.

"I get the nickle-and-diming stuff," Caress said, "but it's ridiculous."

Even the refs didn't want the Chargers to move. Late in the fourth quarter, one of them announced a timeout for San Diego before correcting himself.

"The Los Angeles Chargers of San Diego," a Dolphins fan ahead of me howled. I couldn't argue with him.

 

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The Chargers are, in fact, in Los Angeles, not that anyone wants them here—USC outdrew the Chargers and Ramscombined last weekend—and losing football games in even more spectacular fashion than usual. Even Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti thinks the team should have stayed put. Maybe that's a rational response, to keep the most cursed football franchise as far away from your city as humanly possible. I can't say I blame anyone. The Chargers' history is a sordid one.

Perhaps the perfect early encapsulation of the early heartbreak was the 1982 playoffs, when the Chargers won an impossible game in Miami on the back of two (two!) blocked field goals, Kellen Winslow sacrificing his body so completely that it took two teammates to carry him off the field. Next, they played the Bengals at Cincinnati's Riverfront Stadium. That game, the Freezer Bowl, was the coldest in terms of wind chill in NFL history. The effective temperature difference between the two games—from a humid 88 in Miami to a frigid -37 in Cincinnati—was 125 degrees. They lost by 20.

 

The Chargers' lone Super Bowl appearance, in 1995—a game they reached after overcoming second half deficits in their previous two playoff games—featured a quarterback matchup between Steve Young and someone named Stan "the Man" Humphries, a former Redskins backup and I-AA quarterback (who may sadly be third-best passer in Chargers history). The 49ers were favored by 18 ½. They won by 23.

Two years after their Super Bowl loss, the Chargers were in a no-lose situation at the top of the 1998 draft. Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf headlined the prospects that year. Manning was considered the more polished of the two quarterbacks, with a striking maturity and an NFL pedigree. Leaf, by contrast, had more physical tools and a much higher ceiling. But he didn't want to go to Indianapolis. So the Colts settled for Manning at first overall, and the Chargers got Leaf, who bounced out of the NFL by 2002 and was in and out of jail on drug-related offenses until 2014. His journey to sobriety is an inspirational story—he's now an ambassador for a chain of recovery communities called Transcend—but let's ask Pro Bowl safety Rodney Harrison about that 1998 season:

He told Sports Illustrated that it was "a nightmare you can't even imagine." "If I had to go through another year like that," he continued, "I'd probably quit playing." He didn't, winning his release from the Chargers after the 2002 season, and winning the Super Bowl with the Patriots the next year. He's just one of many Bolts that saw their fortunes turn more or less the second they departed the team.

 

Of course, nothing stays terrible forever. The team finished 1-15 in 2000, which gave them the top pick in the draft. They traded down and drafted LaDainian Tomlinson and Drew Brees in the first and second rounds, hired Marty Schottenheimer before the 2002 season, and rattled off a series of successful seasons the franchise hadn't seen since the early 1980s. In 2004, the Chargers took Eli Manning with the first overall pick, but in a situation eerily reminiscent of Ryan Leaf six years earlier, Manning refused to play in San Diego. So they dealt him to the New York Giants for a series of draft picks, one of which was Philip Rivers, whom the Chargers drafted over Ben Roethlisberger. Manning and Rivers, two iconic morons (and, in Roethlisberger's case, alleged sex criminal) have both won two Super Bowls each.* Rivers sat on the bench until the end of 2005, when Brees suffered a torn labrum. Brees walked to the New Orleans Saints and promptly revitalized the city of New Orleans following the devastation of Hurricane Katrina, set passing records, and won the Super Bowl.

But the Chargers weren't slowed! In 2006, the team finished 14-2. They didn't make the Super Bowl. That would be because of their divisional round game against the New England Patriots, better known to Chargers fans as the Marlon McCree Game. Despite a typically poor series of decisions and bad plays—a muffed punt and the bizarre choice to go for it on 4th-and-11—the Chargers looked to seal a 21-13 victory when safety Marlon McCree picked off Tom Brady late in the 4th quarter. Of course, he tried to return the ball, fumbled, and had it scooped up by ex-Charger Reche Caldwell. Five snaps later, Caldwell then hauled in the winning touchdown pass. Chargers head coach Marty Schottenheimer would never coach in the NFL again and Caldwell would later Google his way to prison.

 

Oh, and things do not stop there. The Chargers have won 5 of their last 24 games decided by one score or less. Philip Rivers, renowned for his accuracy, has led the league in interceptions two of the past three years, beaten out only by the legendary Blake Bortles. Their losses have come in inconceivable ways. Last year, the Chargers were leading the Saints by 13 with less than seven minutes left. First round pick Melvin Gordon fumbled on first down to allow the Saints to drive 13 yards and bring the game within a score. On the Chargers' next drive, an untouched Travis Benjamin threw the ball on the ground to allow the Saints to drive for the winning score.

 

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Heartbreak, now available in Los Angeles. Jake Roth-USA TODAY Sports

An article from last year headlined "Once again, Chargers find new way to fail," detailed holder Drew Kaser dropping the snap for the potential game-winning field goal against the hated Raiders. Last year, they lost to the Browns on Christmas Eve. Just last week, their undrafted but much-heralded kicker Yonghoe Koo—he hadn't missed inside 50 yards in his last college season, and was replacing the least accurate kicker in the league—made a game-tying kick. Of course, the Broncos had called time out. Of course, the Broncos blocked the next kick.

The fucked up thing is I actually enjoyed going through this litany, if only to remember seasons in which the team actually won games. The thing about truly sad teams is that they bring you within inches of the promised land and snatch it away from you. In the same way that bad smells have a hint of sweetness, which makes you keep sniffing and sniffing, trying to pick out that note, bad teams come within inches of glory before crushing your spirit.

 

Against this backdrop, I attended the first Los Angeles Chargers regular season home game in more than 55 years. (The team played one season in Los Angeles upon its founding in 1960). They opened the ceremonies in their new old hometown by inducting Tomlinson into whatever off-brand name the Chargers have for their ring of honor. The silence was deafening.

"Why don't you sit on the bench in a dark helmet again?!" one non-silent fan yelled, referring to the 2008 playoff game Tomlinson had to largely sit out due to an excruciating knee injury. The curse makes people do crazy things.

I wondered how the in-stadium director managed to find contiguous rows of Chargers fans to show on-screen during the game. I certainly couldn't spot more than a few blue jerseys in a row. The video board operator seemed to, at times, be throwing a bone to Dolphins fans. There was a strange segment in which Miami and Los Angeles were compared and contrasted. The Dolphins had Miami Vice, the Chargers had CHIPs. The Dolphins had sunrise, the Chargers had sunset. The Chargers had Shaq, the Dolphins had older Shaq.

A man representing himself as former Van Halen frontman Sammy Hagar was one of the Dolphins fans in attendance**. I caught up with fake Hagar—who is, by the way, pathologically friendly—on the concourse during the third quarter after he finished shaking hands with a half dozen fans. Earlier, I had walked by him and thought "that Dolphins fan looks a lot like a much older Sammy Hagar." It was not in fact, the actual Hagar. But I thought he was. He bemoaned the Charger's move.

 

"They should have worked something out like the Packers" he said of the city of Green Bay's ownership of their team. "I'm glad the Faders—I call them the Faders—are in Las Vegas but the Chargers should have stayed in San Diego."

 

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When you're skilled at team name puns and also not Sammy Hagar. Photo by Michael Hafford.

More troubling than the Dolphins jerseys were the fans that came wearing jerseys from other teams entirely. In the parking lot, I began counting other teams' jerseys. A man named Memo wearing a Aaron Rodgers jersey described himself as "a die-hard fan." Of what? He shrugged; he just came as a carpool buddy. He was far from alone. The jerseys I saw: the Bears, Curtis Martin, a Seahawks 12th fan, Matthew Stafford, Mason Crosby, Terry Bradshaw, Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Jason Witten, Priest Holmes, Kevin Durant, a smattering of custom Broncos jerseys, Dak Prescott, Tim Couch, Bo Jackson, John Elway, Amari Cooper, matching A.J. Greens (on a father and daughter), Packers Charles Woodson, Brian Urlacher, two more Aaron Rodgers, Troy Polamalu, matching Packers Reggie Whites (on a husband and wife), Carson Wentz, and Anthony Barr. Of course, there were dozens more in team shirts and USC or UCLA jerseys. I gave those people a pass; at least they got the city right.

A moment of levity came in the second half as Antonio Gates, among the first to make the basketball-to-football transition that has since become cliche for pass-catching tight ends, set the record for all time tight end touchdown receptions. A nice video from Tony Gonzalez fell on deaf ears. So, too, did a highlight reel from a Raiders win.

 

"Why would they show Raiders highlights?" Caress asked me.

I shrugged. Nobody cared.

Oh, and a game was played. The game turned on a series of bizarre late decisions by both teams. The Chargers were driving late and trying to rush their kicking unit onto the field with ten seconds left. The Dolphins called time out, presumably to ensure they could get a last Hail Mary attempt after the kick was made. But all this did was give Chargers kicker Koo time to actually set up. The kick went up. It looked good. A roar went up. Had we won? Was my theory dead? Then I saw the Dolphins rushing the field. Wide right. But the refs were waving as if to review. No dice, it was just to get the Dolphins back onto their sideline so Jay Cutler could line up in the victory formation.

As I walked out into the parking lot in a daze, I saw a kid in an "All-In" Chargers shirt with tears streaming down his face. I wanted to go up to him and tell him to run far, far away. But he picked up his pace. He had to catch up to his dad. They both had a long way to go.

*An earlier version of this piece did not sufficiently detail the complicated machinations that led to the Chargers drafting of Philip Rivers.

**VICE Sports was duped by an apparently notorious Sammy Hagar impersonator. We regret the error, and pledge to investigate this matter further.

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Pat Neshek Calls Zack Greinke a 'Turd' for Not Signing Autograph
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The Colorado Rockies reliever, who is also a major autograph seeker, claims that Greinke promised to sign something for him and then stiffed him on it.

Pat Neshek, currently a reliever on the Colorado Rockies, is also a big-time autograph collector. As a player in Major League Baseball, he's got a fairly unique leg up on the rest of the hounds out there, but just because he's got access doesn't mean he always gets what he wants. Sometimes Zack Greinke will be a turd to you.

Neshek's quest for Greinke's John Hancock was actually a story heading into the All-Star Game festivities this season, since both were representing the National League and Neshek has had a tough time getting the Diamondback pitcher's autograph. He was so committed he even said he'd try to get his kid to do it for him. That obviously didn't pan out, and now Neshek has relayed the story on a memorabilia message board he's known to frequent.

 

Basically, Neshek claims that Greinke promised to sign something for him while the two were in Miami, but when the Colorado reliever tried to cash in on the promise a couple weeks ago—the Rockies visited the D-Backs at the beginning of the month—Greinke refused to even acknowledge that he had made the promise.

Excerpts from the post include "this is the only ahole in major league baseball that has been a turd to me," and a couple of shots about Greinke's well-documented battle with social anxiety.

Neshek says Greinke told him the reason he won't sign for him is that Neshek "wear him out," which, judging by the retelling of this story, seems like a fair complaint! Neshek sent cards over to be signed. No dice. Approached him during BP. No dice. Confronted him one more time in the outfield, begging him to just sign something. No dice. That was the final straw for Greinke, and he even made clear he wouldn't even sign something for his kid.

There is only one way this can possibly end and that is with the Arizona Diamondbacks acquiring Pat Neshek and Greinke letting out the longest, loudest sigh anyone's ever heard.

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Mike Francesa Unloads on Penn State's James Franklin for Icing Kicker in 56-0 Rout
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Francesa called Franklin a "horse's ass" among other things.

Mike Francesa has been mailing it in for the better part of a decade, but every once in a while, he can still reach back and fire off his fastball. He was able to do it on Monday, thanks to Penn State head coach James Franklin's decision to ice the poor kicker for Georgia State in the final seconds of a 56-0 blowout.

With 11 seconds left in the game, which, again, was 56-0, Georgia State lined up for a 31-yard field goal because, hey, no one wants to get shut out. They snapped the ball and Brandon Wright kicked it through the uprights, but not before Franklin had called a timeout. Naturally, when Wright went to kick it again, he missed it and the game ended as 56-0 shutout.

Franklin gave some shaky excuse for the decision—the "fourth team" was out on the field and they had never run a field goal block before, so he wanted to make some substitutions—but let's get real: he wanted to preserve the shutout. Mike was not having any of it.

This is trademark Francesa. Breathlessly reading a game report that he no doubt had printed out in front of him before uncorking a rant where you can almost hear the veins pushing against the skin at his temples. He calls Franklin a "horse's ass" and a "jerk" for calling the timeout in that situation and also threw in some nice passive aggressive "hope you're proud of yourself" snark. But really, for me, the best part is how seamlessly he transitions from fire and brimstone to reading an ad for a local car dealership. That is a pro move.

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We get it the Chargers suck and you are pissed about it. 

But why are you punishing us with long ass cut and paste posts that really don't say anything of note

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On 9/21/2017 at 11:27 PM, Bus Driver said:

A friend shared this point, and I doubted the accuracy - until I checked the stats.

The Cincinnati Bengals, with 4.5 points/game, are the 22nd best offense...........................in Major League Baseball.  The Brewers, in 21st place, average 4.59.

Yeah we're off to a slow start. But seriously, you could have the Madden 18 "Coaching Assistant" calling your plays from a book of four choices and do a better job as Offensive Coordinator than Ken Zampese. Who the hell marches it down to the six yard line in a 2:00 drill with the clocked stopped at :06 on third and goal and DOESN'T take one more short pass into the end zone? The last play they ran took like 3 seconds off the clock...

Don't get me started. This team has mountains of talent everywhere but on the O-Line...

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Niners/Rams, set up to be the awful game of the year, turned out to be quite exciting. End of it all, rams won but didn't cover.

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Those fuckling cunts who run the feed to CTV censored the anthem. Put up a generic screen with awful throb guitar riff and left that up until cutting in for the kick off.

This, after wondering out loud to the viewers if Rogers would take a knee.

Did he?

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Some strange football today.  Brady throws 5TDs and the Patriots win at the end. Bears win their first with more bizarre plays than imaginable.  lions lose at the end when a TD call is reversed. Iggles win on a 61 yd FG.

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17 minutes ago, By the lee said:

Those fuckling cunts who run the feed to CTV censored the anthem. Put up a generic screen with awful throb guitar riff and left that up until cutting in for the kick off.

This, after wondering out loud to the viewers if Rogers would take a knee.

Did he?

I don't think so. I know the Bengals liked arms as a team for a show of unity.

And they got a touchdown, finally.

Of course, the refs then moved the ball down the field for the Packers and setup a touchdown...

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As a commentator, does Tony Romo remind anyone of Pepper Brooks?

 

 

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HA - HA - HA

FUCK LA !!!!!!!!

 

They REALLY SUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Seahawks and Titans refused to come out for the Anthem today. Officially ending my interest in the NFL.

 

C-YA

 

WL

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5 minutes ago, White Lightnin' said:

Seahawks and Titans refused to come out for the Anthem today. Officially ending my interest in the NFL.

 

C-YA

 

WL

Add me to the list as well...  was not a big NFL but this sort of sealed the deal for me.. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, White Lightnin' said:

Seahawks and Titans refused to come out for the Anthem today. Officially ending my interest in the NFL.

 

C-YA

 

WL

Two teams that I’ll happily ignore from here on out. 

Disrepectsful assholes!

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I expect all of you to be standing at attention for the national anthem in your home and posting pictures as proof after.

And if I see a single hat on one of your heads during colors I will smack it the fuck off so hard your brain damage will be even worse than it currently is.

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21 minutes ago, Monkey said:

Two teams that I’ll happily ignore from here on out. 

Disrepectsful assholes!

 

32 minutes ago, White Lightnin' said:

Seahawks and Titans refused to come out for the Anthem today. Officially ending my interest in the NFL.

 

C-YA

 

WL

Agree. Although should have realized this would start when we tore down Veteran's Stadium and moved to financial field.

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39 minutes ago, TPG said:

I expect all of you to be standing at attention for the national anthem in your home and posting pictures as proof after.

And if I see a single hat on one of your heads during colors I will smack it the fuck off so hard your brain damage will be even worse than it currently is.

 

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11 hours ago, TPG said:

I expect all of you to be standing at attention for the national anthem in your home and posting pictures as proof after.

And if I see a single hat on one of your heads during colors I will smack it the fuck off so hard your brain damage will be even worse than it currently is.

I’d be curious to see if Goodell ever breaks down and starts enforcing the rules. 

The specific rule pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the NFL League Rulebook. It states:

“The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

“During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition...

Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

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7 minutes ago, Monkey said:

I’d be curious to see if Goodell ever breaks down and starts enforcing the rules. 

The specific rule pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the NFL League Rulebook. It states:

“The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

“During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition...

Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

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6 minutes ago, B.J. Porter said:

 

B.J., I was referring to the bit about “must be on the sideline.”

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Just now, Monkey said:
8 minutes ago, B.J. Porter said:

 

B.J., I was referring to the bit about “must be on the sideline.”

Yeah, it sounds like the Squealers did it wrong, though I approved at the time. Now I have to go wash my hands.

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3 minutes ago, B.J. Porter said:

Yeah, it sounds like the Squealers did it wrong, though I approved at the time. Now I have to go wash my hands.

I’m fine with whatever personal views you or anyone has on this. The PA part can stay in PA. It’ll just be interesting to see how the league handles it now that they’ve broken rules and not just guidelines. 

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And yet again, the Lions find yet another bizarre and creative way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Down by 4 they drive down the field and score with 8 seconds left to win the game. Only the td gets overturned on review, and by rule a 10 second run off ensues. Game over. WTF does a over turned call mandate a ten second runoff?. Thanks , NFL.  In between this and the anthem bullshit I am not regretting not renewing my season tix on the slightest.

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