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I'm a beginner , looking for a cheap boat for my family ,2 young girls and my wife , I'm 6'3 ,

300 lbs ,  the two boats I have in mind are the Nordica16 or the Wayfarer...it would be used in Lake Ontario or lake Earie...also in small northern lakes ..for day trips , a safe but fun boat is what I'm after for around 1,000...any thoughts ....

 

 

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Fine boats to learn on.

I learned on the Wayfarer[ CL16 same design in FG] and it will be the faster of the two. Wayfarers have done long voyages and sea crossings. It is a stable and forgiving boat. You can carry enough gear to camp on shore. Boom is high enough for kids. A little wet in waves but not bad with the deck edge overhanging a bit. Enough freeboard to feel safe. It can tip over but good stability none the less. An Albacore or Lightning would be sportier and are fine boats.

The Nordica will not capsize with it's ballast of course. The cabin is suitable for kids or on shore camping gear. You may need the outboard more with this boat in light wind conditions. One has tried the R2AK, but the comparable Monty's have completed the race several times now. A comparable style would be the Com Pac 16 if you prefer that style. The Sage is a new build, similar in style, if you want to see ideas on furling and finishes.

Consider boats for a little more money if they have newer sails, newer trailer tires or fresh rigging to save buying new gear.

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Albacore over the lightning. the latter is heavy and harder to recover from a capsize. Albacore (Uffa Fox) and Wayfarer (Ian Proctor) are reasonable boats that are also rescuable without a lot of trouble. On the other hand, if you want all 4 to sail with you, get a Flying Scot.

I like the Wayfarer. Always wanted to sail one to see what it was like. Finally got my chance in 18 to 25 a few years ago. Great fun. Really handles well. (Proctor knew what he was doing....). It isn't my 505 but it isn't supposed to be either.

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9 hours ago, fastyacht said:

Albacore over the lightning. the latter is heavy and harder to recover from a capsize. Albacore (Uffa Fox) and Wayfarer (Ian Proctor) are reasonable boats that are also rescuable without a lot of trouble. On the other hand, if you want all 4 to sail with you, get a Flying Scot.

I like the Wayfarer. Always wanted to sail one to see what it was like. Finally got my chance in 18 to 25 a few years ago. Great fun. Really handles well. (Proctor knew what he was doing....). It isn't my 505 but it isn't supposed to be either.

I'm gonna respectfully disagree.  Had an Albacore--after sailing another heavy oldie daysailer from a bygone age.  However, I also sailed some older wooden Lightnings.  Ya wanna learn to sail, take the fam out safely and comfortably---Lightning hands down.  We had the family in the Albacore, but it was never as roomy or as secure feeling.  Sure, a bit more responsive, especially when only a couple peeps are aboard but it's an 'active' boat, you work it, you dum-diddle relax for the afternoon.   Lightning has plenty of performance for a beginner.  Heck, a Flying Scot would be better still.  Lot's of them around back east I bet...

Edit: Just FINISHED reading the post I was quoting.  Yup, Flying Scot. (didn't see that part until just now...)  I think it's bedtime....

 

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+1 on bumping budget, 1k for a boat with decent trailer (good tires, etc) and gear is pretty thin, I would allow more like 2-2.5k, more if you want a really nice boat.

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See if you can find a convenient sailing club that has several older and tough simple boats. Like Cal 20s or similar. Usually a small membership fee and a few hours of maintenance per year will be your contribution. You will then meet others. You will learn. You can try different boats. You can then focus on the fun of sailing rather than the ego and costs of owning. Fees are often on the order of a couple hundred bucks per year.

Get addicted, the rest happens naturally.

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