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There is something seriously wrong with the ranking within the game. A couple hours ago i went from rank ~46.000 to ~35.000 and also the DTL (without the leader changing) went down from ~900NM to ~250NM within several minutes. I saw the same for a couple friend boats around of me (Shorty, Ozzy, ...) while the some a little more north of me (Breitling, ...) have the old data.

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and why is it if you click on other boats in the game they move forward ?

mine wont move no matter how many times I click on it :angry:

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I see what you mean .  Here is a screen shot that I took for the scoring.  I was close to Breitling all day, so no way we were that far apart.

 

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14 minutes ago, Mid said:

and why is it if you click on other boats in the game they move forward ?

mine wont move no matter how many times I click on it :angry:

While ingame your boat moves every minute, even so the data on the server side is only updated every two minutes which can cause some confusion (e.g. while recovering from a grounding and then moving to quickly back towards the original direction). The other boats are only updated/moved once you click on them

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cheers  Marty6 , I forgot the purple font :D

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I've been away all day.  Just saw the question about the northerly position.  Not really confident about it, but following Zezo's primary routing race after race after race gets dull, and I decided after shanking the first night to try something different.  I'm trying to do an end-around, potentially getting East of Auckland before crossing the doldrums.  I'm hoping the doldrums will be nasty all the way to Auckland's longitude and that I'll be able to pick up something nice for a fast downwind run into Auckland.  Looking at Zezo's isochrones, I think it's plausible, but simply risky.

 

Regarding the screwy rankings...  I learned a long time ago to not care where VR ranks me until I'm on the final approach to the finish.  They have invisible waypoints that drive your DTF, and sometimes you'll have situations where boats who have passed a certain angle from a certain invisible waypoint will jump ahead in DTF until you hit that invisible line.  Just worry about getting to the finish as fast as you can, and figure it'll work itself out by the time you get there.

 

Regarding boats jumping ahead when you click on them...  It's important to understand that when you leave the screen open in a race, your boat moves forward each minute, but the other boats don't move.  They sit wherever they were when you opened the screen.  Until you click them...  then they advance to whatever their latest position is.  So...  don't get excited if you see yourself crushing everyone around you...  it's because they aren't moving (until you click on them).  I frequently exit and re-enter races to force it to update everyone, rather than clicking around to get the updates.

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13 minutes ago, Hike, Bitches! said:

Marty, spend more time sailing (virtually) and less time worrying. C'mon man!

No worries, the bug reduced my distance to you by > 600NM within minutes, so i'm quite happy :D :D Or was it the famous Turbo card ;)

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I've been mainly  offline the last 36 hours too. I'm really only running this route because I finished around top 100 in the last edition using this route. Zezo will never pick it for you! I'm looking for code zero use the whole way south!

As Mom says, very risky. I'm doing a fair speed, but have a lot further to travel! Fingers crossed

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All good Marty, i was just hassling you. ;)

Let's hope the sails don't "fail" anymore like they did back in the day..Remember the light spinnaker being the fastest and blowing up in the Southern Ocean? 

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32 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

So...  don't get excited if you see yourself crushing everyone around you...  it's because they aren't moving (until you click on them).

Damn it, you just ruined all the fun ;) Overtaking that neon green boat makes the day :)

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Chain of small islands in front of me and most of the northern group. I hope i don't repeat my sushi pitstop :)

Don't forget to zoom in ;)

 

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Hi again all, just got home from a weekend regatta, tired, salty and pleasantly surprised that I didn't hit an island on the way through the islands of Japan. 

My only concern was I didn't manage to stay the eastern most/ (then) southern most boat in the north group as I was planning, but the beer was flowing and plenty of tales on the bar so as long as I am behind that front - happy days for now. 

I note the same protagonists from last leg are there or there abouts. Nice job Breitling, you seem to be smashing it so far! 

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2 minutes ago, stufishing said:

lonely up here!

well , there's at least one prize you can claim ................ furthest north .

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Thanks Magool. Not an easy one, I've been dismissing all Zezo suggestions from about 36 hours ago, it depicts the front and wind change 3 hours behind of where I am. He wants me to tack south (it supposes I am ahead of the front). So I switched off Zezo and rely on weather forecast outputs from different sources (mainly GFS which is what the game uses). My plan is to gain as much east as I can before diving southeast in a couple days.

I'm also living a nightmare with sail changes. No autosail at all, I prefer to go on the wrong sail for a while (0.3 kt), if not it changes 4 times each hour...

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SHOW US YA CARDS

I don't pay for em so these are all from the yogurt tub in the top right cnr .

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while we're at it show us ya boat .

Once again this is all I could get without paying , carrying a zero but nothing else from the options list .

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3rd question

 

Anybody running foils ?

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@Mid yes

 

I've been weaving up and down and gybing for the last few hours as it will make no difference because of the stupid front ahead of us anyway. Got scared after seeing marcusbelgicus and sideshow gybe when i was only using my phone so couldn't look at routing properly so i gybed to follow. Looks like I should have just left it as is. 

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^

that leads to Q#4 :o

who's using what to play the game

pc v phone ?

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I use both but tend to bring my computer with me so i can use routing (yes i have lost all my friends since the race begun :lol:) If i can't bring my computer then i'll use my phone. Been also using predict wind a bit for routing in this leg and the portugal to South Africa leg where it is useful to use the ECMWF model as well as i find it tends to be more accurate at long range forecasting although that may just be BS.

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I only use the phone when I can't get to the PC, I find the phone way too small and fidderly for my failing eyes and ham fisted fingers.

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@Mid: Will also fess up:

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The combo of C0 and foils is not completely cost free, but i've accumulated over 9500 credits with all the different races by now so i can invest some into the VOR legs. All the other races, besides the VOR, i only use the credit provided for those races and basically always only go for the C0 and using the remaining race specific credit for programmation cards.So haven't used any real money yet.

My cards (some programmation cards are bought with credits):

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I'm playing mainly on the PC (Chrome + VR dashboard) to use easier routing and the tablet during the night or when away from home.

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23 minutes ago, HKG1203 said:

we are still further north than when we started although we're racing south

:blink:

meanwhile , here , auto's on sails and fred is driving :lol:

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37 minutes ago, Mid said:

meanwhile , here , auto's on sails and fred is driving :lol:

The riskiest card in my opinion. Makes only sense on a course with shifting winds and can bite you with unnecessary sail changes and raking up speed penalties. I usually try to avoid this card and rather go 0.2 kts slower with the wrong sail.

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3 hours ago, HKG1203 said:

mom, watch out for RQ-Naos on another flier

Good catch.  I guess I need to try to catch him in case this flyer pays off.  I think he and I are both more likely to wind up 2,000th than at the front, but we won't know for at least a week.

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Don't like the frigate coming up to the North.

Meanwhile the overall leaders head for the eye of the cyclone.

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53 minutes ago, Marty6 said:

Don't like the frigate coming up to the North.

Meanwhile the overall leaders head for the eye of the cyclone.

I noticed that as well (overall leaders). My other boat that I’m using to keep track of group A until Tunnel Rat gets back is down there and I’m skirting around the outside of the low pressure system. Still too far behind to catch them. Meanwhile, pretty much all of groups a and c are lined up along the frontal boundary, aside from those that have taken fliers. 

Edit: the leader might be just enough to the south to come through the low in decent shape. 

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I’m around Breitling And XC Race in the north. Been steadily dropping places from 46 000 odd to 25 000 odd today. In the last hour or two I’ve gone back to 46 000. Must be a whole bunch of boats at a critical crossover point. Just as well I’m not chasing rankings until Auckland.

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I’m just about to pass South Iwo Jima. I was hoping to stop for beer, but it’s uninhabited. We’re just about out....again. Poor planning. And that damn bow guy drank more than his share. 

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Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

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suspect you are using different zoom levels ?

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22 minutes ago, Loon said:

Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

Is your TWA locked or unlocked?

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23 minutes ago, Loon said:

Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

If you mean with predicted distance the dotted line: Could the wind direction along the set heading become unsuitable for the heavy genaker and that sail thereby becoming ineffective or even useless?

i guess more details to answer correctly are needed: Which heading, which wind direction, TWA un-/locked ...? maybe just post your current location and the heading you wanted to go.

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23 minutes ago, Loon said:

Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

Are you on our scoring list?

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1 minute ago, Shorthanded said:

Nice Rhum lineup. 

FTFY :D

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So after the one day plunge my rank is back up to over 45000 and the DTL is back up to over 800NM. Strange measuring by VR.

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wonder what zoom level the leader is using ?

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42 minutes ago, Marty6 said:

If you mean with predicted distance the dotted line: Could the wind direction along the set heading become unsuitable for the heavy genaker and that sail thereby becoming ineffective or even useless?

i guess more details to answer correctly are needed: Which heading, which wind direction, TWA un-/locked ...? maybe just post your current location and the heading you wanted to go.

Boat name is Localdog (I'm Loon). I'm about 120 miles east of the southernmost Philippine island. I'm bearing 163 degrees, wind at about 20 degrees, blowing 19.7 kts. AWS is not locked.  I'm not on the scoring list? (Any room?)

Does the program predict my distance given conditions down my course? Or in future? Or neither. That would maybe make sense.  

 

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54 minutes ago, Loon said:

Boat name is Localdog (I'm Loon). I'm about 120 miles east of the southernmost Philippine island. I'm bearing 163 degrees, wind at about 20 degrees, blowing 19.7 kts. AWS is not locked.  I'm not on the scoring list? (Any room?)

Does the program predict my distance given conditions down my course? Or in future? Or neither. That would maybe make sense.  

 

I’ll add you to C group. 

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2 hours ago, Loon said:

Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

If you have autosails turned off, and HG becomes the wrong sail at some point during your projection line, then your projection line will continue to show whatever you'd achieve under HG (which could be awful relative to Jib if the wind is coming forward or dying).  If you have autosails on, then the projection line will assume sailchanges for the duration of the autosails activation.

Be careful, though, if you're flipping back and forth between Jib and HG to experiment...  each time you flip it (at least if a one-minute iteration passes before you flip back), you'll incur a penalty.  50% speed penalty each sailchange (or tack or gybe).  It lasts 75 seconds with pro winches, or a ghastly 300 seconds (5 minutes) without pro winches.

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36 minutes ago, Shorthanded said:

This laser has seen better days. 

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The laser can handle it (especially buried in the snow like that) - but I'm concerned for that windsurfing boom. Take it home with you! :P

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1 hour ago, Loon said:

Does the program predict my distance given conditions down my course? Or in future? Or neither. That would maybe make sense. 

Yes, to a certain degree. The weather updates (see qoute below) can change the line. For example my line predicted me to stay clear of an island 3 hours ahead but wind changes lifted my boat North just a bit and i hit the island.

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Weather is updated 4 times/day. The update is incremental and new data is added as it becomes available from NOAA (both the game and zezo)

The schedule begins at 9:30 UTC (10:30 CET in winter) with 12 hours of data, then 24 hours worth of forecast are added every 10 minutes or so. At 10:30 UTC the first week is available. The full 384 hour forecast is available at 11 UTC.

The same process repeats every 6 hours.

 

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Pretty interesting route of the boat in the West in the screenshot as well:

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1 hour ago, Milli said:

@ Mom, Stufishing, Mudsailor et. al.: what exactly are you still doing up there? 

Good question!

 

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3 minutes ago, stufishing said:

Good question!

Mom has answered up thread .........

 

the others probably haven't any way out currently .

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2 minutes ago, Mid said:

Mom has answered up thread .........

 

the others probably haven't any way out currently .

Your Mom started heading south earlier. I don't think he liked what he saw forecast-wise and gybed back over.

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23 minutes ago, Marty6 said:

Pretty interesting route of the boat in the West in the screenshot as well:

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Take a look at Andy Cap_1, they are in the same area as that boat, only further advanced.

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for tonight.

Rank Group SA Name Boat Name DTL
1 A,B,C wpbeardsley wpbeardsley 0.0
2 C   puckhead 3.7
3 B Swamp Swamp Rat 42.9
4 C Loon Localdog 47.4
5 A Hike, Bitches HikeBitches 71.0
6 C Vin Divided Sky 101.4
7 A Rainbow Spirit Rainbow Spirit II 101.6
8 B   spadadua 102.7
9 A Lat21 Hamachi SA 108.6
10 C rolltak Awkward Turtle 110.1
11 A Mike G Mike Ventura 112.8
12 A daan62 hutspot77 116.1
13 B Rimike rider1982 116.5
14 B   Iluvitar 119.6
15 A Vibroman Vibroman_SA 120.1
16 C mred mistered 120.6
17 B jacksparrow Malamute 121.5
18 C Will Lee Lorraine III 124.3
19 B unplugged Dcarr 124.4
20 B gary  hschutz 125.8
21 A Tunnel Rat Mongrel 126.1
22 B sailon2 jahmbo SA 126.1
23 B Mr. Fixit Yodaman 126.6
24 B N/A Walkaround 128.5
25 A From The Rail A-Squared 131.9
26 A Ozzy Ozzy 85 132.1
27 B mkgsailor J2B2 156.1
28 C   Dirty Sea Rag 186.0
29 C sailingk8 She Wolf 186.6
30 B   GrandbendOnt 239.2
31 B Gufmiester Gufmiester 581.0
32 B kea.nn kea.nn SA 591.0
33 A prettyhatemachine prettyhatemachine 591.3
34 B Shorthanded Shorty 591.5
35 A BlueMountainsYC shockwave11 592.0
36 A Marty6 Cambodunum 592.7
37 C JeSa-SA JeSa 592.7
38 A Breitling Breitling_SA 592.8
39 C Sapphire Girl Sapphire Girl 594.9
40 B Magool Magool 595.80
41 C Sambaopreis Sambaopreis 597.2
42 B Milli Blitzquart 599.8
43 A HKG1203 HKG1203 600.0
44 B hmsmweasel Stay Thirsty M 43 602.2
45 B EquusAsinusDomesticus ON9270 605.6
46 A Kapt'n Kirk prowler_1-SA 612.4
47 A Gybe Turkey Gybe Turkey 613.9
48 A Golden Rose Golden Rose SA 615.2
49 A Driftwood Me Rongo Rekohu SA 626.8
50 A I Sail The Black Boat Thistle1678 643.2
51 B stanlutz USA644RAVEN_SA 662.4
52 B Tommmzzz tommmzzz 815.1
53 B   cg_ 871.0
54 B Alpina ColombaRacing 937.2
55 A Mud Sailor Mudsailor SA 996.2
56 A Your Mom Your Mom SA 1035.1
57 A Wet Hog WetHog-SA 1188.7
58 B stufishing Stufishing_SA 1237.5
59 B CaptainSENer CaptainSENer DNS
60 B RunSampRun Samsonite SA DNS
         
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What's with the background sounds when playing off the map? There is a wave sound, plus twittering birds, twittering birds in the middle of the ocean?

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2 hours ago, Milli said:

@ Mom, Stufishing, Mudsailor et. al.: what exactly are you still doing up there? 

I've been routing to a point NE of Auckland all along.  Trying to get to a position where I can avoid the worst of the doldrums and approach the finish on a downwind angle.  I do NOT think it's going to work out well.  I might wind up 12-20 hours behind the winner.  But I shanked the first day and the truth is that between this and the Clipper race, I'm really tired of dicking around in light and shifty doldrums and was ready to do whatever I have to in order to avoid that.  So...  if I finish 20 hours off the winner, in 3,000th place, having rarely sailed in less than 10 kts of breeze and just having sailed too far, so be it.  And if I get lucky find a good end-around lane a week from now, then...  :-)  But I'm not expecting it.

49 minutes ago, Shorthanded said:

Your Mom started heading south earlier. I don't think he liked what he saw forecast-wise and gybed back over.

I'm actually mostly following Zezo's routing at the moment, but with a destination NE of Auckland.  The wind is shifting such that a few gybes are necessary to play the angles correctly, and also there are diminishing returns on getting more wind once you have more than 27 kts.  So I'll probably have a few more gybes in the next several hours, and then at some point tomorrow (US time) will start a more persistently ESE track.

For the moment, my main goal is to stay ahead of Mangina and catch leg winner RQ-Naos.

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4 minutes ago, Rainbow Spirit said:

What's with the background sounds when playing off the map? There is a wave sound, plus twittering birds, twittering birds in the middle of the ocean?

I turned all of the sounds off in all of my devices a long time ago.  F'ing annoying.  ;-)

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38 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

I turned all of the sounds off in all of my devices a long time ago.  F'ing annoying.  ;-)

+1

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42 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

I turned all of the sounds off in all of my devices a long time ago.  F'ing annoying.  ;-)

I'd be surprised if A SINGLE PERSON plays with those sounds on. That poor sound effects designer is not getting any royalties, that's for sure!

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I am really struggling to find any good in front of me now. I can't see a lane through with consistent wind which is what I was looking for. The plan I had two days ago has not panned out. I have had three weather changes vs forecast now go against me, I reckon I'm due for a good one soon! Unless conditions change unexpectedly, the next twelve hours should see me reach my northern most latitude

However, one light ahead of me; the angle I have always planned to approach Auckland from will still yield me the shortest time possible in the Doldrums.

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2 hours ago, Rainbow Spirit said:

What's with the background sounds when playing off the map? There is a wave sound, plus twittering birds, twittering birds in the middle of the ocean?

I switched mine off, no need for that shit

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Stu may i ask why you chose the far north option for this leg? I know looking in retrospect its easy to comment on but im just thinking more in terms of fleet management. Although the three of us were pretty stuffed from that northern option. There is still 24 hours left before we break through the front which has been slowing the leaders down meaning 24 hours to get back into the front row of the race as such. My plan was that i knew the leaders could not extend with the front so i may as well follow them and allow my better pressure to put me back in the game. Was the northerly plan just more of a fun banging of the corner to see how it goes?

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annoying that the noise defaults to on and you get to turn it off every time , specially when you are trying to sneak a peep in the middle of the night :rolleyes:

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Its a sad tale really! I was always going to run a far northern route.  when i was offline a couple of days ago i was heading for much too long at 80TWA and ended up closer to  Kochi than i wanted and lost touch with the front. Then i had to go NE at pace to get back to it. Then the last two forecasts have moved it back out of reach. And the lane of solid breeze I was slotting into level with Tokyo now has a whacking great hole in it!

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10 minutes ago, stufishing said:

Its a sad tale really! I was always going to run a far northern route.  when i was offline a couple of days ago i was heading for much too long at 80TWA and ended up closer to  Kochi than i wanted and lost touch with the front. Then i had to go NE at pace to get back to it. Then the last two forecasts have moved it back out of reach. And the lane of solid breeze I was slotting into level with Tokyo now has a whacking great hole in it!

ah right i see! That's rather unfortunate :/

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4 hours ago, Mid said:

annoying that the noise defaults to on and you get to turn it off every time , specially when you are trying to sneak a peep in the middle of the night :rolleyes:

Go to settings on the home screen before you select VOR. Set music and sounds to off. Same place you can choose between km and nm. You never need to hear sounds again!

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ahoy Marty6 ,

 

come ang get ya Frigate back :unsure:

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Another question, folks. What's the formal name of the Group C yacht club? I want to sign up to follow rankings. Thanks.  

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