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22 minutes ago, Loon said:

Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

Is your TWA locked or unlocked?

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23 minutes ago, Loon said:

Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

If you mean with predicted distance the dotted line: Could the wind direction along the set heading become unsuitable for the heavy genaker and that sail thereby becoming ineffective or even useless?

i guess more details to answer correctly are needed: Which heading, which wind direction, TWA un-/locked ...? maybe just post your current location and the heading you wanted to go.

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23 minutes ago, Loon said:

Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

Are you on our scoring list?

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1 minute ago, Shorthanded said:

Nice Rhum lineup. 

FTFY :D

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So after the one day plunge my rank is back up to over 45000 and the DTL is back up to over 800NM. Strange measuring by VR.

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wonder what zoom level the leader is using ?

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42 minutes ago, Marty6 said:

If you mean with predicted distance the dotted line: Could the wind direction along the set heading become unsuitable for the heavy genaker and that sail thereby becoming ineffective or even useless?

i guess more details to answer correctly are needed: Which heading, which wind direction, TWA un-/locked ...? maybe just post your current location and the heading you wanted to go.

Boat name is Localdog (I'm Loon). I'm about 120 miles east of the southernmost Philippine island. I'm bearing 163 degrees, wind at about 20 degrees, blowing 19.7 kts. AWS is not locked.  I'm not on the scoring list? (Any room?)

Does the program predict my distance given conditions down my course? Or in future? Or neither. That would maybe make sense.  

 

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54 minutes ago, Loon said:

Boat name is Localdog (I'm Loon). I'm about 120 miles east of the southernmost Philippine island. I'm bearing 163 degrees, wind at about 20 degrees, blowing 19.7 kts. AWS is not locked.  I'm not on the scoring list? (Any room?)

Does the program predict my distance given conditions down my course? Or in future? Or neither. That would maybe make sense.  

 

I’ll add you to C group. 

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2 hours ago, Loon said:

Anyone know why my jib at 16 kts gives me a predicted distance that's twice as long as the heavy gennaker, which gives me 18.2 kts? Which should I choose? 

(Forgive me if this has already been asked. No time to look through 2,000 posts.)

If you have autosails turned off, and HG becomes the wrong sail at some point during your projection line, then your projection line will continue to show whatever you'd achieve under HG (which could be awful relative to Jib if the wind is coming forward or dying).  If you have autosails on, then the projection line will assume sailchanges for the duration of the autosails activation.

Be careful, though, if you're flipping back and forth between Jib and HG to experiment...  each time you flip it (at least if a one-minute iteration passes before you flip back), you'll incur a penalty.  50% speed penalty each sailchange (or tack or gybe).  It lasts 75 seconds with pro winches, or a ghastly 300 seconds (5 minutes) without pro winches.

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36 minutes ago, Shorthanded said:

This laser has seen better days. 

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The laser can handle it (especially buried in the snow like that) - but I'm concerned for that windsurfing boom. Take it home with you! :P

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1 hour ago, Loon said:

Does the program predict my distance given conditions down my course? Or in future? Or neither. That would maybe make sense. 

Yes, to a certain degree. The weather updates (see qoute below) can change the line. For example my line predicted me to stay clear of an island 3 hours ahead but wind changes lifted my boat North just a bit and i hit the island.

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Weather is updated 4 times/day. The update is incremental and new data is added as it becomes available from NOAA (both the game and zezo)

The schedule begins at 9:30 UTC (10:30 CET in winter) with 12 hours of data, then 24 hours worth of forecast are added every 10 minutes or so. At 10:30 UTC the first week is available. The full 384 hour forecast is available at 11 UTC.

The same process repeats every 6 hours.

 

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Pretty interesting route of the boat in the West in the screenshot as well:

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1 hour ago, Milli said:

@ Mom, Stufishing, Mudsailor et. al.: what exactly are you still doing up there? 

Good question!

 

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3 minutes ago, stufishing said:

Good question!

Mom has answered up thread .........

 

the others probably haven't any way out currently .

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2 minutes ago, Mid said:

Mom has answered up thread .........

 

the others probably haven't any way out currently .

Your Mom started heading south earlier. I don't think he liked what he saw forecast-wise and gybed back over.

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23 minutes ago, Marty6 said:

Pretty interesting route of the boat in the West in the screenshot as well:

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Take a look at Andy Cap_1, they are in the same area as that boat, only further advanced.

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for tonight.

Rank Group SA Name Boat Name DTL
1 A,B,C wpbeardsley wpbeardsley 0.0
2 C   puckhead 3.7
3 B Swamp Swamp Rat 42.9
4 C Loon Localdog 47.4
5 A Hike, Bitches HikeBitches 71.0
6 C Vin Divided Sky 101.4
7 A Rainbow Spirit Rainbow Spirit II 101.6
8 B   spadadua 102.7
9 A Lat21 Hamachi SA 108.6
10 C rolltak Awkward Turtle 110.1
11 A Mike G Mike Ventura 112.8
12 A daan62 hutspot77 116.1
13 B Rimike rider1982 116.5
14 B   Iluvitar 119.6
15 A Vibroman Vibroman_SA 120.1
16 C mred mistered 120.6
17 B jacksparrow Malamute 121.5
18 C Will Lee Lorraine III 124.3
19 B unplugged Dcarr 124.4
20 B gary  hschutz 125.8
21 A Tunnel Rat Mongrel 126.1
22 B sailon2 jahmbo SA 126.1
23 B Mr. Fixit Yodaman 126.6
24 B N/A Walkaround 128.5
25 A From The Rail A-Squared 131.9
26 A Ozzy Ozzy 85 132.1
27 B mkgsailor J2B2 156.1
28 C   Dirty Sea Rag 186.0
29 C sailingk8 She Wolf 186.6
30 B   GrandbendOnt 239.2
31 B Gufmiester Gufmiester 581.0
32 B kea.nn kea.nn SA 591.0
33 A prettyhatemachine prettyhatemachine 591.3
34 B Shorthanded Shorty 591.5
35 A BlueMountainsYC shockwave11 592.0
36 A Marty6 Cambodunum 592.7
37 C JeSa-SA JeSa 592.7
38 A Breitling Breitling_SA 592.8
39 C Sapphire Girl Sapphire Girl 594.9
40 B Magool Magool 595.80
41 C Sambaopreis Sambaopreis 597.2
42 B Milli Blitzquart 599.8
43 A HKG1203 HKG1203 600.0
44 B hmsmweasel Stay Thirsty M 43 602.2
45 B EquusAsinusDomesticus ON9270 605.6
46 A Kapt'n Kirk prowler_1-SA 612.4
47 A Gybe Turkey Gybe Turkey 613.9
48 A Golden Rose Golden Rose SA 615.2
49 A Driftwood Me Rongo Rekohu SA 626.8
50 A I Sail The Black Boat Thistle1678 643.2
51 B stanlutz USA644RAVEN_SA 662.4
52 B Tommmzzz tommmzzz 815.1
53 B   cg_ 871.0
54 B Alpina ColombaRacing 937.2
55 A Mud Sailor Mudsailor SA 996.2
56 A Your Mom Your Mom SA 1035.1
57 A Wet Hog WetHog-SA 1188.7
58 B stufishing Stufishing_SA 1237.5
59 B CaptainSENer CaptainSENer DNS
60 B RunSampRun Samsonite SA DNS
         
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What's with the background sounds when playing off the map? There is a wave sound, plus twittering birds, twittering birds in the middle of the ocean?

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2 hours ago, Milli said:

@ Mom, Stufishing, Mudsailor et. al.: what exactly are you still doing up there? 

I've been routing to a point NE of Auckland all along.  Trying to get to a position where I can avoid the worst of the doldrums and approach the finish on a downwind angle.  I do NOT think it's going to work out well.  I might wind up 12-20 hours behind the winner.  But I shanked the first day and the truth is that between this and the Clipper race, I'm really tired of dicking around in light and shifty doldrums and was ready to do whatever I have to in order to avoid that.  So...  if I finish 20 hours off the winner, in 3,000th place, having rarely sailed in less than 10 kts of breeze and just having sailed too far, so be it.  And if I get lucky find a good end-around lane a week from now, then...  :-)  But I'm not expecting it.

49 minutes ago, Shorthanded said:

Your Mom started heading south earlier. I don't think he liked what he saw forecast-wise and gybed back over.

I'm actually mostly following Zezo's routing at the moment, but with a destination NE of Auckland.  The wind is shifting such that a few gybes are necessary to play the angles correctly, and also there are diminishing returns on getting more wind once you have more than 27 kts.  So I'll probably have a few more gybes in the next several hours, and then at some point tomorrow (US time) will start a more persistently ESE track.

For the moment, my main goal is to stay ahead of Mangina and catch leg winner RQ-Naos.

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4 minutes ago, Rainbow Spirit said:

What's with the background sounds when playing off the map? There is a wave sound, plus twittering birds, twittering birds in the middle of the ocean?

I turned all of the sounds off in all of my devices a long time ago.  F'ing annoying.  ;-)

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38 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

I turned all of the sounds off in all of my devices a long time ago.  F'ing annoying.  ;-)

+1

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42 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

I turned all of the sounds off in all of my devices a long time ago.  F'ing annoying.  ;-)

I'd be surprised if A SINGLE PERSON plays with those sounds on. That poor sound effects designer is not getting any royalties, that's for sure!

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I am really struggling to find any good in front of me now. I can't see a lane through with consistent wind which is what I was looking for. The plan I had two days ago has not panned out. I have had three weather changes vs forecast now go against me, I reckon I'm due for a good one soon! Unless conditions change unexpectedly, the next twelve hours should see me reach my northern most latitude

However, one light ahead of me; the angle I have always planned to approach Auckland from will still yield me the shortest time possible in the Doldrums.

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2 hours ago, Rainbow Spirit said:

What's with the background sounds when playing off the map? There is a wave sound, plus twittering birds, twittering birds in the middle of the ocean?

I switched mine off, no need for that shit

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Stu may i ask why you chose the far north option for this leg? I know looking in retrospect its easy to comment on but im just thinking more in terms of fleet management. Although the three of us were pretty stuffed from that northern option. There is still 24 hours left before we break through the front which has been slowing the leaders down meaning 24 hours to get back into the front row of the race as such. My plan was that i knew the leaders could not extend with the front so i may as well follow them and allow my better pressure to put me back in the game. Was the northerly plan just more of a fun banging of the corner to see how it goes?

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annoying that the noise defaults to on and you get to turn it off every time , specially when you are trying to sneak a peep in the middle of the night :rolleyes:

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Its a sad tale really! I was always going to run a far northern route.  when i was offline a couple of days ago i was heading for much too long at 80TWA and ended up closer to  Kochi than i wanted and lost touch with the front. Then i had to go NE at pace to get back to it. Then the last two forecasts have moved it back out of reach. And the lane of solid breeze I was slotting into level with Tokyo now has a whacking great hole in it!

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10 minutes ago, stufishing said:

Its a sad tale really! I was always going to run a far northern route.  when i was offline a couple of days ago i was heading for much too long at 80TWA and ended up closer to  Kochi than i wanted and lost touch with the front. Then i had to go NE at pace to get back to it. Then the last two forecasts have moved it back out of reach. And the lane of solid breeze I was slotting into level with Tokyo now has a whacking great hole in it!

ah right i see! That's rather unfortunate :/

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4 hours ago, Mid said:

annoying that the noise defaults to on and you get to turn it off every time , specially when you are trying to sneak a peep in the middle of the night :rolleyes:

Go to settings on the home screen before you select VOR. Set music and sounds to off. Same place you can choose between km and nm. You never need to hear sounds again!

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ahoy Marty6 ,

 

come ang get ya Frigate back :unsure:

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Another question, folks. What's the formal name of the Group C yacht club? I want to sign up to follow rankings. Thanks.  

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31 minutes ago, Loon said:

Another question, folks. What's the formal name of the Group C yacht club? I want to sign up to follow rankings. Thanks.  

Group C is just the group of sailors that I keep track of. We’re only able to follow up to 25 boats and we now have around 60 total that we’re scoring.  I volunteered to follow the group C boats when the first two groups, followed by Tunnel Rat and mkgsailor, maxed out. We take screenshots of each of our groups every day at 0100 UTC and then publish them in this thread. See above for the last posting. It’s just for fun and we encourage more people to sign up as I still have room for more. 

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30 minutes ago, Breitling said:

Fuck...  all effort thrown overboard. We start again.

And the forecast suggests that the boats to the SW of us will get a fresher breeze when the E-NE wind fills in. 

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after a 3.5 hour brunch on a tiny island my routing completely changed... somehow it seems to turn into a good thing... everything is still possible...

hutspot77

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12 minutes ago, daan62 said:

after a 3.5 hour brunch on a tiny island my routing completely changed... somehow it seems to turn into a good thing... everything is still possible...

hutspot77

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I wanted to dislike, but that wouldn’t have been very nice. 

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4 minutes ago, Shorthanded said:

I wanted to dislike, but that wouldn’t have been very nice. 

honesty is worth something, too....

 

Hutspot77

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this leg reminds me a bit of the one to Melbourne. I feel your pain breitling. Especially with how well you've been positioning yourself over the last few days. Been looking to be in the top 20 was my guess

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2 hours ago, Shorthanded said:

And the forecast suggests that the boats to the SW of us will get a fresher breeze when the E-NE wind fills in. 

They will, but will also need to pinch more to stay in the breeze and make the mark...

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8 minutes ago, JeSa-SA said:

They will, but will also need to pinch more to stay in the breeze and make the mark...

That’s a very valid point. Time will tell, eh!

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3 minutes ago, Shorthanded said:

That’s a very valid point. Time will tell, eh!

it ain't over until the fat lady sings...

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13 minutes ago, HKG1203 said:

Stop Press: We are now further south than Hong Kong!

Maybe you are.  Zezo just told me to go north for an additional 6 hours instead of being able to settle in for a week without gybes.  That probably isn't good news.

Ultimately, my plan is contingent upon the doldrums being unavoidably god-awful.  There have been times when I've considered jumping to the escort frigate, as its position isn't terrible with the whole fleet ramming into a wall...  but I keep telling myself the forecasts from PNG to Tonga will change dramatically with every update and a path through there that looks good right now might look terrible in 6 hours.  My path East of Tonga should be much more reliable.  Just a lot longer.

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16 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

Maybe you are.  Zezo just told me to go north for an additional 6 hours instead of being able to settle in for a week without gybes.  That probably isn't good news.

Ultimately, my plan is contingent upon the doldrums being unavoidably god-awful.  There have been times when I've considered jumping to the escort frigate, as its position isn't terrible with the whole fleet ramming into a wall...  but I keep telling myself the forecasts from PNG to Tonga will change dramatically with every update and a path through there that looks good right now might look terrible in 6 hours.  My path East of Tonga should be much more reliable.  Just a lot longer.

Admit it. You’re island hopping looking for rum. 

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8 hours ago, I Sail The Black Boat said:

Was there one? for a while we were encouraging everyone to join "Savannah Yacht Club:" for the whole fleet! 

20ish more spots open in SAYC. JohnBoy is in the lead.... Hold on. The time it took to check back & snap a screen shot, the commodore got lapped.

 

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Just signed up for SAYC--despite having lost 20,000 places while asleep last night. Ah well.

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Here are tonight's rankings. More big changes in the last 24 hours. 

 

Rank Group SA Name Boat Name DTL
1 A,B,C   spadadua 0.0
2 C   puckhead 6.2
3 B Rimike rider1982 21.5
4 A Rainbow Spirit Rainbow Spirit II 27.0
5 A Lat21 Hamachi SA 44.6
6 A daan62 hutspot77 49.3
7 B mkgsailor J2B2 49.3
8 C wpbeardsley wpbeardsley 50.4
9 C mred mistered 53.5
10 C rolltak Awkward Turtle 62.1
11 B gary  hschutz 63.7
12 A Hike, Bitches HikeBitches 66.7
13 B hmsmweasel Stay Thirsty M 43 67.0
14 A Vibroman Vibroman_SA 67.7
15 C   Dirty Sea Rag 69.5
16 B unplugged Dcarr 70.2
17 A prettyhatemachine prettyhatemachine 70.4
18 A BlueMountainsYC shockwave11 70.6
19 B Shorthanded Shorty 71.1
20 C Will Lee Lorraine III 71.2
21 C JeSa-SA JeSa 71.2
22 A Breitling Breitling_SA 71.5
23 B Gufmiester Gufmiester 71.6
24 A Marty6 Cambodunum 71.7
25 B sailon2 jahmbo SA 71.7
26 B jacksparrow Malamute 71.9
27 B N/A Walkaround 71.9
28 B   Iluvitar 71.9
29 B Mr. Fixit Yodaman 72.3
30 A HKG1203 HKG1203 72.5
31 C Sapphire Girl Sapphire Girl 73.0
32 B Milli Blitzquart 73.2
33 C Sambaopreis Sambaopreis 74.3
34 B Swamp Swamp Rat 74.8
35 A Ozzy Ozzy 85 77.3
36 A From The Rail A-Squared 81.6
37 A Golden Rose Golden Rose SA 82.5
38 C Loon Localdog 82.6
39 A Tunnel Rat Mongrel 82.8
40 A Mike G Mike Ventura 84.8
41 A I Sail The Black Boat Thistle1678 85.5
42 C sailingk8 She Wolf 100.0
43 B   GrandbendOnt 236.1
44 B   cg_ 395.8
45 C Vin Divided Sky 421.7
46 B Alpina ColombaRacing 435.7
47 B Magool Magool 438.60
48 B kea.nn kea.nn SA 441.3
49 B EquusAsinusDomesticus ON9270 461.5
50 A Gybe Turkey Gybe Turkey 468.6
51 A Driftwood Me Rongo Rekohu SA 470.2
52 A Kapt'n Kirk prowler_1-SA 473.9
53 B stanlutz USA644RAVEN_SA 481.0
54 A Mud Sailor Mudsailor SA 922.8
55 A Wet Hog WetHog-SA 973.8
56 B Tommmzzz tommmzzz 1074.0
57 A Your Mom Your Mom SA 1077.1
58 B stufishing Stufishing_SA 1124.6
59 B CaptainSENer CaptainSENer DNS
60 B RunSampRun Samsonite SA DNS
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Well, I passed RQ-Naos today, so I'm hoping I'm at the front of my route now, for whatever that turns out to be worth in the end.

I find myself wondering what angle the buoy 1 validation occurs at, and whether or not I might be the first one to validate it, from a bazillion miles away...  Not that it matters.  I'm leaving Tonga to starboard.

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riddle me this ?

why spend money on cards ?

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all from the yoghurt tub freebie

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You only have enough cards to program two turns in succession or three separately. Cards suck, they cost a lot to buy. I would be in a far better position if I had ponied up for 2 navigation packs near Japan instead of sailing the wrong way for 6 hours..

Was just wondering if anyone will beat me on distance sailed this leg!

 

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Collecting cards means you have very few at the beginning of the leg and then they start throwing useless ‘Help’ cards at you. It takes quite a while to build up anything useful in the yoghurt tub, which is fine if you’re sailing in a straight line in trade wind conditions.

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8 hours ago, DtM said:

Your Mom !!!

Yarrrrr!!!

It's getting annoying how many people are asking me every day in the game "where are you going?"  "what's your strategy" "are you going to Alaska"?  I'm starting to wish I had taken the doldrums route.  The good news is that 48 hours from now, I'll be East of Auckland and heading pretty close to due South, so the answer to those questions will finally be self-evident.

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Just  two questions about how the game plays for me on my PC, and the things that annoy me, I'm wondering if this happens to others.

It seems that about 50% of the time now on login I have to sign in with my email address and password, then go through the tutorial, even though I have ticked the do not show me the tutorial again box many times. It used to be a straight login without the sign in, now it is getting worse.

As well, once on the game screen I have problems clicking onto my friends boats and other random boats that appear so I can see their performance details.  I know my connection speed (ADSL2) is slow, (would you believe around 2-3 mbps if I'm lucky). Thanks, RSII.

 

 

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Just been having a look at the run in to Auckland. With a number of tropical storms floating around the South Pacific and patches of nothing in between, it looks tricky. That could well be the point when Your Mom flies through at a more favorable angle...

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53 minutes ago, Rainbow Spirit said:

Just  two questions about how the game plays for me on my PC, and the things that annoy me, I'm wondering if this happens to others.

It seems that about 50% of the time now on login I have to sign in with my email address and password, then go through the tutorial, even though I have ticked the do not show me the tutorial again box many times. It used to be a straight login without the sign in, now it is getting worse.

As well, once on the game screen I have problems clicking onto my friends boats and other random boats that appear so I can see their performance details.  I know my connection speed (ADSL2) is slow, (would you believe around 2-3 mbps if I'm lucky). Thanks, RSII.

Usually i don't have to log in/sign in with the EMail on the the PC or the tablet. It only occurs very seldom and i suspect it's after i used another device the time before. And yes, the settings including tutorial/sound/music are always gone with the new sign in. Did maybe some privacy settings (cookies) change for your browser?

I also can confirm the clicking issue with the latest version on both PC and tablet. Changing the zoom level helps to make those boats clickable but it's still annoying.

Your connection should be fast enough. I have "only" twice your speed since several months and before had the same so i feel your pain.

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13 hours ago, stufishing said:

Was just wondering if anyone will beat me on distance sailed this leg!

 

There was a Swedish boat yesterday spinning around at a fixed 110 TWA in the cyclone vortex east of the Philippines. He might have twirled around a gazillion times in there and leapfrogged you in distance-sailed :P

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A lot of reefs and islands ahead and a challenge in little over 24 hours.

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26 minutes ago, Marty6 said:

A lot of reefs and islands ahead and a challenge in little over 24 hours.

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and they only show when zooming in... already had an unplanned stop (3.5 hours) this leg...

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Keep a lookout for all those light blue areas, lots of hidden islands lurk there.

A few days ago I was in the 48000s, today it looks like I'll go sub 2000!

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Spadadua checking in. The position Spadadua is currently in is entirely the product of semi-blind luck and a lot of traveling with little time to fuck up things that are actually working. No worries true leaders, I'm sure the Spadadua will soon work its way back to its usual mid-SA Fleet position... 

Also Mom, talk about banging the corner! Holy crap! Seeing you up there is someone intimidating. Like a bomb about to drop through the fleet. 

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On 2/10/2018 at 6:37 PM, Marty6 said:

There is something seriously wrong with the ranking within the game. A couple hours ago i went from rank ~46.000 to ~35.000 and also the DTL (without the leader changing) went down from ~900NM to ~250NM within several minutes. I saw the same for a couple friend boats around of me (Shorty, Ozzy, ...) while the some a little more north of me (Breitling, ...) have the old data.

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Same thing happened to me! Said I'd made over 500 NM in less than 24 hrs....don't think we are in the Southern Ocean yet!!!

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On 2/11/2018 at 2:40 AM, HKG1203 said:

I use both but tend to bring my computer with me so i can use routing (yes i have lost all my friends since the race begun :lol:) If i can't bring my computer then i'll use my phone. Been also using predict wind a bit for routing in this leg and the portugal to South Africa leg where it is useful to use the ECMWF model as well as i find it tends to be more accurate at long range forecasting although that may just be BS.

Use my phone, tablet and computer; just depends on where I am and what I'm doing.  Has anyone else notice a difference in Zezo's routing if they use Chrome or Firefox?  I'm seeing some major differences and can't explain it.  Anyone else experiencing this??  Thanks!

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Zezo doesn't always work for me in Chrome, so I have to use Firefox, and yes there is a difference to the routing, especially towards Auckland.

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