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21 minutes ago, Sean said:

With the issues we’ve had in the US and the recent display in Poland, I was interested to know if the white supremecist scourge is spreading. Maybe I’m naive, but I was surprised to see that article.  

The "scourge" has been here for a while. Lots of "poor oppressed white victimhood" here, it's just not as focused on "the blacks". Populist parties like One Nation cash in on their resentment when the two right-wing parties start getting on the nose. Then they fade back into the wood work, voting for the dog whistlers as their figureheads get too embarrassing even for them. Not a hard prediction to make that One Nation will collapse again after their current moment in the spotlight (good job Turnbull, double-dissolution was super effective at clearing out this shit wasn't it? :rolleyes: ).

 

 

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One nation has been here for 20 years Bent boy. It’s more than an aberration.

The majority of the country is done with open slather immigration. It’s finished.

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6 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

 Populist parties like One Nation cash in on their resentment when the two right-wing parties start getting on the nose. 

Just like the DLP, the Democrats, the nuclear disarmament party and the greens all cashed in when the ALP wouldn't tolerate their extream leftwing Bullshit. See the difference? All these parties are gone except for the greens who are on the way out. We have a two party system. Bent can't admit that because he once said otherwise and is incapable of admitting when he is wrong. Odd really when you are wrong as often as he/she is.

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3 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Just like the DLP, the Democrats, the nuclear disarmament party and the greens all cashed in when the ALP wouldn't tolerate their extream leftwing Bullshit. See the difference? All these parties are gone except for the greens who are on the way out. We have a two party system. Bent can't admit that because he once said otherwise and is incapable of admitting when he is wrong. Odd really when you are wrong as often as he/she is.

I don't think you could really put the DLP in with the others as 'extreme left wing'. More like the opposite in fact.

Who cares about No Notion - it's just a natural pushback to the Greens. Just like the Shooters Party (now the Shooters & Fishers) in NSW . They make a handy counterweight to the nutcase Greens in the State upper house. The people I can't stand are Fred Nile and his ilk. Green hypocrisy is bad enough but you expect nothing less, religious hypocrisy is intolerable.

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48 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

I don't think you could really put the DLP in with the others as 'extreme left wing'. More like the opposite in fact.

Who cares about No Notion - it's just a natural pushback to the Greens. Just like the Shooters Party (now the Shooters & Fishers) in NSW . They make a handy counterweight to the nutcase Greens in the State upper house. The people I can't stand are Fred Nile and his ilk. Green hypocrisy is bad enough but you expect nothing less, religious hypocrisy is intolerable.

FKT

I threw the DLP in as an example of another failed left party based on self interest. The interest in that case being the Catholic Church. 

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Yep...gone...falling on her sword

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/jacqui-lambie-to-resign-over-citizenship/9145716

Interesting to note the comment re Labor MP Justine Keay not receiving her notice re revoking British citizenship until after nominations closed. I thought there were no skeletons in the Labor closet. Funny how chooks come home to roost at the most inopportune time. Must be hard on Bill. Poor Bill...so close yet so far.

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31 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

I threw the DLP in as an example of another failed left party based on self interest. The interest in that case being the Catholic Church. 

Not all self interest parties fail quickly.  Take the liberals for example, they are propped up by the Mining and Energy Corporations, going pretty strong for a long time.

If you drive around Australia you get blinded by the reflections off all the solar panels, while the government heads in the opposite direction as directed by those who are paying the party bills.

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Hey, here we have a brilliant opportunity to show the Sepo's how much more growner upper and objective Ausssies are...seriously ish:rolleyes:

Where's Atefootez BTW?

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56 minutes ago, albanyguy said:

Yep...gone...falling on her sword

Sucks not to have known. Good on her for doing the right thing. 

As for MP Justine Keay, I think she should be referred to the High Court too. Would do her and the ALP some credit to go that step further than the Liberals and Nationals could bring themselves to. Of course, expecting any of the three major parties to give up even the slimmest chance of gaining/keeping power is asking too much. Hell, as it is, the Liberals need both the Nationals and independent Cathy McGowan to keep themselves in power. 

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3 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:

Fucking idiot not to have known.

Last week she was boasting about how sure she was that her parents had their paperwork etc, how granddad joined the Australian forces etc..in other words..they, and her by default, are REAL australians..She's little better than Hanson.

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27 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Last week she was boasting about how sure she was that her parents had their paperwork etc, how granddad joined the Australian forces etc..in other words..they, and her by default, are REAL australians..She's little better than Hanson.

Oh, I don't think much of her as a politician. Some of the things she fought for were good.... but she was often just following her thought-bubble for the day without much in the way of connection to known facts. However, as bad as she was in that regard, compared to the Liberals, the Nationals, and the ALP - she got back information regarding her citizenship and immediately did the right thing once her dual citizenship was confirmed.

For all her other flaws, Jacqui did the right thing. The Greens did the right thing too. The Liberals, the Nationals, and the ALP did not. That's worth noting.

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49 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:

Sucks not to have known. Good on her for doing the right thing. 

Sucks not to have known what? Not knowing that her father was Scottish and then linking the fact that she could have British citizenship by default? Surely with all that's been going on around this issue over the last few months anyone who has British heritage should've checked but oh no not Jacqui Lambie..."I'm fine" she says.  

What a joke she is. She should've done the right thing when the other did months ago.

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30 minutes ago, albanyguy said:

Sucks not to have known what? Not knowing that her father was Scottish and then linking the fact that she could have British citizenship by default? Surely with all that's been going on around this issue over the last few months anyone who has British heritage should've checked but oh no not Jacqui Lambie..."I'm fine" she says.  

What a joke she is. She should've done the right thing when the other did months ago.

What? Tell a senior member of the party that she might have a problem with her eligibility but not do anything about it until forced to do so by outside factors after the High Court ruled against everyone who'd been already caught? Yeah, John Alexander set the bar really low for what the "right thing" to do happens to be. :rolleyes:

The only ones that actually did the right thing from the get-go were the Greens senators*. They found out and they quit. Simple as that. That was the right thing to do, and Jacqui did it as soon as informed about her citizenship. Everyone else tried to game the system hoping for a reprieve from the High Court despite, as Barnaby confessed, already believing they were fucked.

 

* Cue the right-wing fuck-knuckles that think pointing out someone did the right thing can only happen if you support someone politically. 

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5 hours ago, LB 15 said:

I threw the DLP in as an example of another failed left party based on self interest. The interest in that case being the Catholic Church. 

My old man was DLP,  they were right wing religious fundamentalists...

Remember Bob Santamaria and Senator Harradine?

We led the way here, the DLP was our own Tea Party, Jo Bjelke Peterson was our own Trump...

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1 hour ago, Bent Sailor said:

Oh, I don't think much of her as a politician. Some of the things she fought for were good.... but she was often just following her thought-bubble for the day without much in the way of connection to known facts. However, as bad as she was in that regard, compared to the Liberals, the Nationals, and the ALP - she got back information regarding her citizenship and immediately did the right thing once her dual citizenship was confirmed.

For all her other flaws, Jacqui did the right thing. The Greens did the right thing too. The Liberals, the Nationals, and the ALP did not. That's worth noting.

agreed

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8 minutes ago, olaf hart said:

My old man was DLP,  they were right wing religious fundamentalists...

Remember Bob Santamaria and Senator Harradine?

We led the way here, the DLP was our own Tea Party, Jo Bjelke Peterson was our own Trump...

Hmm Russ Hinze...you got to own it, no one did corruption like those old Queenslanders.

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2 minutes ago, olaf hart said:

If you want more Jacquis, down here we have thousands more where she came from...

To be honest - not really interested in much of her antics. Just going to give credit where credit is due. 

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Oh give me a break Bent. Give her credit for what? Being dumb enough to not realise for months that due to her father's heritage she might have a problem. Cry me a river.

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12 minutes ago, albanyguy said:

Oh give me a break Bent. Give her credit for what? Being dumb enough to not realise for months that due to her father's heritage she might have a problem. Cry me a river.

I'm of two minds about Lambie..Sometimes she's as appalling as PH. But..she sure seems to have a genuine feel for the grievances of the great unwashed..and she has actually been there.

If she'd had the advantages of some silver spoon re Schooling she may be as smart as the next..but then she prolly wouldn't have any raison d'etre ..would she?

Smart enough to pull a couple of hundred thou PA though.  :)

I kind of like her guts..and some of her politics.

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34 minutes ago, albanyguy said:

Oh give me a break Bent. Give her credit for what? Being dumb enough to not realise for months that due to her father's heritage she might have a problem. Cry me a river.

Give her credit for immediately resigning on being informed of her foreign citizenship. Like it or not, the Liberals, Nationals, and Labor didn't do that. 

I'm not giving her sympathy, so I dunno where your "cry me a river" line is coming from. Simply pointing out that, despite being an uninformed attention-whore of a senator, she still had more integrity than the three major parties put together. I know, I know, some people cannot bring themselves to admit someone you disagree with did something right. I'm not one of those people.

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Um..she may not have had much choice..It was her that focused attention on herself and her citizenship last week I believe..kinda been slapped with her own handbag :D

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1 hour ago, olaf hart said:

My old man was DLP,  they were right wing religious fundamentalists...

Remember Bob Santamaria and Senator Harradine?

We led the way here, the DLP was our own Tea Party, Jo Bjelke Peterson was our own Trump...

Jo Bjelke was our George W 

Clive Palmer was our Trump

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6 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

To be honest - not really interested in much of her antics. Just going to give credit where credit is due. 

To be honest? Yeah?

So what are you normally?

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1 hour ago, random said:

To be honest? Yeah?

So what are you normally?

Snarky and/or sarcastic. Some people need me to be clear when I'm not.

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21 hours ago, olaf hart said:

My old man was DLP,  they were right wing religious fundamentalists...

Remember Bob Santamaria and Senator Harradine?

We led the way here, the DLP was our own Tea Party, Jo Bjelke Peterson was our own Trump...

Yeah that was my point. Though it gets hard to distinguish the fringe nutters whether right or left.

I admired Harradine. He managed to extract a lot more than a kilogram of flesh from both major parties when they were in government. Wouldn't have voted for him, but I liked his style.

FKT

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21 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

Hmm Russ Hinze...you got to own it, no one did corruption like those old Queenslanders.

Come off it, they were amateurs. They got caught. You need to go back to Bob Askin in NSW for serious and effective corruption.

Eddie Obeid did his best but sadly, it wasn't good enough. Now Kristina Keneally is running for Federal Parliament in Bennelong. This should be entertaining. I predict she loses.

FKT

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The top 9 electorates to vote NO are all held by Labor.

 

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17 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

The top 9 electorates to vote NO are all held by Labor.

 

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Which is why equating them as the party of the left is retarded. Thanks for proving what we've been saying for fucking decades.

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On 14/11/2017 at 9:36 AM, random said:

If you drive around Australia you get blinded by the reflections off all the solar panels, 

Ah so it is the solar panels that stop you from seeing reality? I knew there had to be something.

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20 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

I'm of two minds about Lambie.

Well that is two more than she has. 

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20 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

Give her credit for immediately resigning on being informed of her foreign citizenship. Like it or not, the Liberals, Nationals, and Labor didn't do that. 

I'm not giving her sympathy, so I dunno where your "cry me a river" line is coming from. Simply pointing out that, despite being an uninformed attention-whore of a senator, she still had more integrity than the three major parties put together. I know, I know, some people cannot bring themselves to admit someone you disagree with did something right. I'm not one of those people.

Give her a ring. She might be into tiny cocks- who knows?

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7 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:

Which is why equating them as the party of the left is retarded. Thanks for proving what we've been saying for fucking decades.

Who the fuck are 'we' and what have you been saying for decades? That the ALP hate poofs? Spit it out man- what are you trying to say?

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Christopher Pyne blames hacker for Twitter account liking gay pornographic tweet

 

Cabinet minister Christopher Pyne says hackers are to blame for his Twitter account liking an explicit gay pornographic video.

"I was hacked overnight!" Mr Pyne tweeted this morning, saying he had been asleep at 2:00am when the "like" occurred.

Sure Chris we believe you...Bwahahahahahahaha

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-16/christopher-pyne-says-hacker-liked-porn-tweet/9155964

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So..now we've got that ridiculous straw man out of the way ..Bakers and florists??

I cant make head or tail out of this. could someone please explain?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-16/same-sex-survey-results-why-we-need-amendments-to-the-bill/9151854

Amendments to allow service providers to discriminate on religious grounds?

It's unaustralian.

As far as I'm concerned, let some twit put up a notice advising that they won't serve rainbow people and see what it does to their business....Fuckwits. 

and the sex discrimination act already prohibits a baker from refusing to make rainbow cake.

 

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1 hour ago, Shortforbob said:

and the sex discrimination act already prohibits a baker from refusing to make rainbow cake.

Hence the religious whack-jobs trying to sneak it back in via a  vote  survey that they lost. They don't like that they cannot currently discriminate, they're sore they couldn't keep the government from doing so, and so they're agitating to get scavenge something from the defeat.

Thing is, the survey combined with the recent census actually shows how weak the religious right's hand is on this matter. Despite their investment in the campaign, they lost decisively. Despite their claims to a silent majority, they've been shown to be a noisy minority. And most importantly, the strongest "No" electorates are solidly safe seats. They're not going to change hands over this issue.

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13 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

Hence the religious whack-jobs trying to sneak it back in via a  vote  survey that they lost. They don't like that they cannot currently discriminate, they're sore they couldn't keep the government from doing so, and so they're agitating to get scavenge something from the defeat.

Thing is, the survey combined with the recent census actually shows how weak the religious right's hand is on this matter. Despite their investment in the campaign, they lost decisively. Despite their claims to a silent majority, they've been shown to be a noisy minority. And most importantly, the strongest "No" electorates are solidly safe seats. They're not going to change hands over this issue.

Spoken like a Trump supporter. You go girl!

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16 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

So..now we've got that ridiculous straw man out of the way ..Bakers and florists??

I cant make head or tail out of this. could someone please explain?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-16/same-sex-survey-results-why-we-need-amendments-to-the-bill/9151854

Amendments to allow service providers to discriminate on religious grounds?

It's unaustralian.

As far as I'm concerned, let some twit put up a notice advising that they won't serve rainbow people and see what it does to their business....Fuckwits. 

and the sex discrimination act already prohibits a baker from refusing to make rainbow cake.

 

If some homophobic baker doesn't want to make a cock shaped cake for some pillow biters wedding then so be it. The only reason that the Dick lickers would force the issue is to make a point anyway. It is never wise to force someone who hates you into preparing food for you. 

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Hahaahaaaaa  LB and his Freudian cock fetish.  He does go on about it.

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1 hour ago, random said:

Hahaahaaaaa  LB and his Freudian cock fetish.  He does go on about it.

We really don't want to know the details.

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2 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

We really don't want to know the details.

I have identified you two as a pair of cocks. Does that help?

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43 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

I have identified you two as a pair of cocks. Does that help?

Ol mate Bent is the master of ignore. And Randy didn't even quote you...

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LB sees cocks everywhere he looks.  Everything looks kinda like a cock to LB.

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12 minutes ago, random said:

LB sees cocks everywhere he looks.  Everything looks kinda like a cock to LB.

Quite. Where LB sees dicks (you and bent) I see a pair of cunts. Australians understand that type of talk.

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12 hours ago, random said:

LB sees cocks everywhere he looks.  Everything looks kinda like a cock to LB.

It's a conspiracy.  

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Well I'm glad the cock talked stopped on Saturday morning.

Now to more pressing matters to hand.

Yep you guessed it...cue that Queen song...Another One Bites the Dust

This time one of Zenophon's crew - Senator Skye Kakoschke-Moore. Seems her mother was British even though she was born in Singapore.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-22/sky-kakoschke-moore-reveals-dual-citizenship-concerns/9179502

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31 minutes ago, albanyguy said:

Well I'm glad the cock talked stopped on Saturday morning.

Now to more pressing matters to hand.

Yep you guessed it...cue that Queen song...Another One Bites the Dust

This time one of Zenophon's crew - Senator Skye Kakoschke-Moore. Seems her mother was British even though she was born in Singapore.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-22/sky-kakoschke-moore-reveals-dual-citizenship-concerns/9179502

Was she one of the Kensington Kakoschke- Moore's? I think I rowed with her brother Serbastion at Eton.

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Another nail in Joyce's Coffin.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-22/gina-rinehart-influence-over-barnaby-joyce-ag-policy-questioned/9181448

Gina hands him a $40,000 bribe.. award..

Mr Joyce initially accepted the giant novelty cheque, saying he intended to spend the money on his property.

But after being roundly criticised by his opponents, including Labor, who labelled the award "smelly", Mr Joyce's office released a statement saying he would "politely decline" it.

Award polarises dinner guests

The award Mrs Rinehart polarised many in the room at the dinner, which was held as part of National Agriculture Day, following other events put on by the Agriculture Department and the National Farmer's Federation (NFF).

The Department and the NFF have confirmed they did not sponsor the dinner or the award and today the farm lobby distanced itself from the prize.

NFF president Fiona Simson said they were "completely surprised" by the presentation.

 
 
 
 

 

The reactions among the hundreds of guests who attended the evening event varied from approval to vehement opposition.

Is he stupid or what?

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Barney is out of a job, he needs the money.

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He'll be back in. He handed the award money back...yeah yeah yeah I know it was after there was a bit of an outcry, especially after what he reportedly said when he accepted the ceremonial cheque, but in the end he did the right thing, probably had no option too mind you.

Pretty poor judgement by Gina to award him the prize given he's in the middle of an election campaign.

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I'm gunna vote for Pauline just to see how crazy this shit can get.

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Turns out Hanson is not as popular as she thinks she is. Neither for that matter is the LNP. On the other hand, it turns out that some people are realising what I've been saying all along:

The federal Coalition's problem is that people forget it is a coalition. As in, made up of two distinct parties. The federal
Liberal Party has only ever won – secured a majority of seats – in three elections in its own right. Robert Menzies never
did it. John Howard did it once – in the 1996 anti-Keating landslide. The other two were in 1975 and 1977 in the wake
of the Whitlam dismissal.

SMH

 

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On 11/24/2017 at 7:44 PM, random said:

I'm gunna vote for Pauline just to see how crazy this shit can get.

She is completely bat shit crazy. Only bent lives in an equally absurd state of political self denial as she does.

PAULINE Hanson has claimed One Nation could still win up to 10 seats in the Queensland State Parliament as she defended her party’s performance in the state election.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/state-election-2017/queensland-election-results-2017-pauline-hanson-on-60-minutes/news-story/311af0ee32c8c7253705120d2d218695

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20 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

She is completely bat shit crazy. Only bent lives in an equally absurd state of political self denial as she does.

PAULINE Hanson has claimed One Nation could still win up to 10 seats in the Queensland State Parliament as she defended her party’s performance in the state election.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/state-election-2017/queensland-election-results-2017-pauline-hanson-on-60-minutes/news-story/311af0ee32c8c7253705120d2d218695

Pity she didn't, and the Greens also win 10. It'd be great for the entertainment factor alone.....

FKT

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Wow, 1 in 7 Queenslanders voted for the redheaded bigoted racist flateather.

1 in 7...

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It is always entertaining up here in the deep north. Thank fuck that cunt of a thing didn't get anyone up. Looks like the greens will only get one seat at best and that is probably a fair and prepositional representation of the states moron population. It showed that both the big parties (yes bent there is only one conservative party up here you pedantic fuckhead) are on the nose but only Katter was pressing the right buttons to take advantage of it and win seats. If KAP gets 3, LNP 43 ALP 46 and the GREENS 1 this could be very entertaining.

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3 minutes ago, S/V Eva said:

Wow, 1 in 7 Queenslanders voted for the redheaded bigoted racist flateather.

1 in 7...

Emphasised the element of your statement that makes it unsurprising.

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6 minutes ago, S/V Eva said:

 

Wow, 1 in 7 Queenslanders voted for the redheaded bigoted racist flateather.

1 in 7...

I in 4 adult men in Melbourne are Homosexual. 1 in 6 people in Sydney are wogs. We all have our problems.

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2 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:

Emphasised the element of your statement that makes it unsurprising.

I in every  5000 adult males in Lake Macquarie are wankers.

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3 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

I in 4 adult men in Melbourne are Homosexual. 1 in 6 people in Sydney are wogs. We all have our problems.

Funny, but I think your pulling those numbers out of your arse.

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2 minutes ago, S/V Eva said:

Funny, but I think your pulling those numbers out of your arse.

True. Let me correct myself. 1 in every 1 adult males from Lake Macquarie ,who post on sailing anarchyare wankers.

One does like to be pedantic.

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 Barnaby Joyce retakes his seat with a 10% swing to him and labor still can't form a government in QLD a week after the election. Even with Turnbull as PM the left still can't kick a goal. I wonder if they will dump Shorten before he loses the next election or after he does. We will just have to wait and see.

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Barny is a fucking clown. 

Barny is our Trump,  the embarrassing uncle at Christmas.

Is he gay?  Haven't seen any reference to a partner.

I think he might be gay, NTTAWWT.

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Randumb he is married and has 4 children.

And how can he be our Trump? Pretty sure he hasn't even bankrupted once!!

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Well there you go, that's how much he attracts my attention.  He's a clown.  An embarrassment as deputy PM.

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must say It's nice to live in a country where our PM can make Blues Brothers references and that's all there is to scoff at .

This is the dullest parliament since....:think:

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9 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

If only they'd done their job in the beginning, we wouldn't have had to waste $120 million confirming the public support we already knew about. The "survey" was never anything more than a delaying action by a bunch of gutless wankers, some of whom ran from the room, trying to delay the inevitable.

Abbott, all talk and no head butt. headshake.gif

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On ‎11‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 10:26 PM, LB 15 said:

I in 4 adult men in Melbourne are Homosexual. 1 in 6 people in Sydney are wogs. We all have our problems.

Always thought Sydney was poof central. NTTATWWT...

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Dutton should be shown the door'

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/16/turnbull-refuses-to-condemn-or-support-duttons-comments-on-south-african-farmers

Commenting on a documentary about violent rural crime in South Africa, Dutton said farmers deserved “special attention” and should receive fast-tracked humanitarian visas from a “civilised country”.

“I do think, on the information that I’ve seen, people do need help and they need help from a civilised country like ours.”

Dutton’s comments have sparked a formal complaint from the South African government with Pretoria hauling in Canberra’s high commissioner to demand a retraction.

A conservative push to resettle "persecuted" white South African farmers in Australia is gaining momentum with several MPs calling for a special humanitarian intake.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has caused a diplomatic row with South Africa after declaring white farmers in the country were facing "horrific circumstances" and needed protection from a "civilised country".

While the issue has hit the national headlines this week, West Australian Liberals have been agitating behind the scenes for months and last year passed a motion at the party's state council calling on the Federal Government to "resettle persecuted European minorities" in South Africa and Zimbabwe.

WA Liberal Ian Goodenough, whose electorate is home to one of the largest South African expat communities, said Australia accepted thousands of extra refugees from Syria in a one-off special intake and should do the same for white farmers "fleeing persecution".

"Violence and suffering affects all people universally," he told the ABC.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-16/persecuted-white-south-african-farmers-resettlement-gaining-mom/9556098

 

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3 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Dutton should be shown the door'

overdue

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Seems the current batch of Liberals forgot the first rule of a successful dog whistle - if it's obvious to everyone what you're getting at, there's no plausible deniability. 

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It seems the upper echelons of the Labor movement, aka Shorten & Bowen, don't understand it either.

I'm referring to their ludicrous plan to remove the refundability of franking credits in the case where the taxpayer does not have tax payable to offset.  They got their numbers wrong big time there not fully realising the implications on the many 1,000's of age pensioners who've held on to their CBA, TLS & other assorted blue chip shares for the franking credit to supplement their aged pension.  And in a week where they are fighting a crucial by-election battle in inner Melbourne with the Greens. Not a very smart move there.

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Yeah, in cases like this, I just cannot imagine what Labor was thinking...29213831_10156265305828829_7585274151565262848_n.jpg.b126b924cebc1284e4edfcf4f6a8cd0c.jpg

Jean earning $159,810 per year after retirement and Labor is thinking of not giving her a $12K rebate?!? The unfairness of the whole thing! Don't they realise that retirees making more from shares (and "other assets") than the average, two full-time working income family does need their government hand outs too! Do you believe the utter gall of those rats?!? :rolleyes: 

Those wealthy retirees that weren't voting Labor are really not going to vote Labor this time!

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Good try there Bent. Since the pension transfer balance cap is now $1.6m that's a pretty good return from the other assets to nett an income of $159,000 within her SMSF. Put simply, that return is not achievable without significant risk. It's a bad example.

Where did you get that example from by the way? 

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11 hours ago, albanyguy said:

Good try there Bent. Since the pension transfer balance cap is now $1.6m that's a pretty good return from the other assets to nett an income of $159,000 within her SMSF. Put simply, that return is not achievable without significant risk. It's a bad example.

Where did you get that example from by the way? 

Don't blame me - that was the Herald Sun's effort at drumming up opposition. I agree - it's fucking retarded... but that's the the argument your side is serving up. Not my fault they have slim pickings for the outrage machine; I simply used their own anti-Labor argument to prove my point.

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27 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:

Don't blame me - that was the Herald Sun's effort at drumming up opposition. I agree - it's fucking retarded... but that's the the argument your side is serving up. Not my fault they have slim pickings for the outrage machine; I simply used their own anti-Labor argument to prove my point.

I'll bet that even if that represents a real person, you can count the number that fit in that category on the fingers of both hands.

OTOH the number of people earning not a lot more than the $18K tax free threshold who'll be affected....... ? All those people with a relatively small shareholding they took deliberately in the high dividend-paying companies to boost their income a bit.

Doesn't affect me at all so I've no axe to grind, but I think it's idiotic. How about we apply it to all taxpayers - you can never get a cash refund on overpaid tax. Bet that'd be popular.....

FKT

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2 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

Don't blame me - that was the Herald Sun's effort at drumming up opposition. I agree - it's fucking retarded... but that's the the argument your side is serving up. Not my fault they have slim pickings for the outrage machine; I simply used their own anti-Labor argument to prove my point.

Well the Herald Sun needs to check the info they get fed from the Labor  machine before printing it and spreading misinformation in the name of class wars. It was bad enough when Swan was Treasurer.

The political own goal kicked by Shorten & Bowen really shows their lack of political nous in trying to do this from opposition. 

Any party willing to fix some of the largesse handed out during the Howard/Costello years, like this franking credit issue and tax free income from super for all over 60's will find it VERY hard to get across the line and if they do then they'd likely get voted out the next election. Unless there was bipartisan support for doing so and in the current climate that's not going to happen.

I personally think that someone getting a pension from their super of $100,000 should be paying some tax but trying to change the current rules is gong to be very difficult. The changes made last year in restricting the amount you can put into super and limit the amount in a tax free environment will address this issue over time. Bear in mind these changes were enacted by a Liberal/National Government and they took a lot of heat from their constituency in doing it on top of the asset test taper rate changes.

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6 hours ago, albanyguy said:

Well the Herald Sun needs to check the info they get fed from the Labor  machine before printing it and spreading misinformation in the name of class wars. It was bad enough when Swan was Treasurer.

Mate, the Herald Sun is Bolt's main mouthpiece. Trying to blame the "Labor machine" for their fucked up attempt to generate outrage is like blaming Di Natale for Joyce having to step down as Nationals leader after getting his taxpayer-funded side-chick pregnant. When you're blaming the ALP for what the Herald Sun is saying, you've written yourself out of reasonable conversation from there on in.

 

The way I see it, Liberal voters are trying to have it both ways - they accept that the initial largesse is unsustainable and perhaps should be reeled in for the good of the economy (if not for fairness' sake); but want to play populism games with the issue for electoral advantage given Labor were the ones bringing the change to the table. When the Liberals wonder why they lost the old impression they were the best economic managers (deserved or otherwise) - this is one of the examples that will be pointed out to them.

Either way, the scare campaign hasn't worked against them in Batman, so perhaps that populist route isn't as effective as it used to be.

 

 

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On 3/17/2018 at 6:06 PM, Bent Sailor said:

Mate, the Herald Sun is Bolt's main mouthpiece. Trying to blame the "Labor machine" for their fucked up attempt to generate outrage is like blaming Di Natale for Joyce having to step down as Nationals leader after getting his taxpayer-funded side-chick pregnant. When you're blaming the ALP for what the Herald Sun is saying, you've written yourself out of reasonable conversation from there on in.

 

You know what Bent? You're right. I bow down before your greatness and your vastly superior knowledge base on every subject. You are always right. I am simply not worthy to be in the same company as you. 

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7 hours ago, albanyguy said:

You know what Bent? You're right. I bow down before your greatness and your vastly superior knowledge base on every subject. You are always right. I am simply not worthy to be in the same company as you. 

Speaking of how to prove you can't handle reasonable conversion... :rolleyes:

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You do realise that every time you "down vote" someone, PPS, you prove that you don't have them on ignore right? Proving that you're a liar when you say they are and all. 

You really are not that bright... 

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3 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

You do realise that every time you "down vote" someone, PPS, you prove that you don't have them on ignore right? Proving that you're a liar when you say they are and all. 

You really are not that bright... 

He/she/it is also really annoying.

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