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Newport International Boat Show - to go? or not to go?

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Is the Newport International Boat Show worth attending?  What to look for and what to avoid?  If attending, whats the best local bar?

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Thanks in advance

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it's worth attending if you haven't been before.

Go on Thursday – avoid the weekend

the best local bar is the one without tourists; try the IA

this show should be cut up into separate events

one for sail

another for powerboats

possibly a 3rd for the mega and brokerage yachts

or combine the sail, mega and brokerage

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I actually enjoy the Used Boat Show next door much more than the New Boat Show.  Don't miss it.  Its free and more fun.

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If memory serves, it used to be two separate shows - one for power and one for sail.  Sail didn't have critical mass to survive stand alone.  Not enough whack jobs like us.

I agree with the comment it's worth it if you haven't been.  Also agree with Thursday or Friday.  Try to be there when it opens.  Lines can get long later.

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On September 1, 2017 at 0:54 PM, sailman said:

I will be there Friday. 

Oh good maybe we can hook up for a beer?

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i'll be busy drooling on the Invincible 42 again sans water ratz. she'll kill me if i bring it home.

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On 9/1/2017 at 0:54 PM, sailman said:

I will be there Friday. 

Maybe we can meet at The Fries Sails booth and the go for a beer?

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20 hours ago, jesposito said:

Maybe we can meet at The Fries Sails booth and the go for a beer?

why don't you all meet at the yralis  phrf committee booth and invite them for  beer??

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Annapolis would be my choice. I was dissappointed in last years Newport show. 

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On September 7, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Swabbie said:

why don't you all meet at the yralis  phrf committee booth and invite them for  beer??

That would be the corruption booth

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On 9/5/2017 at 8:58 AM, TPG said:

i'll be busy drooling on the Invincible 42 again sans water ratz. she'll kill me if i bring it home.

Yes I will.  I will be home wishing I was there... :(

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On 9/1/2017 at 0:54 PM, sailman said:

I will be there Friday. 

What time do you want to meet?

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On September 11, 2017 at 2:40 PM, jesposito said:

What time do you want to meet?

Looking forward to seeing Sailman today at the show.

I hope he's wearing a PFD in case he falls off the dock, or is accidentally tripped:D  

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Hey John if you are in Newport swing by the shop and say hello, check out the dumpy dust factory.

 I'll show you where the secret weapon shit is hidden. We can measure and weigh the mast that arrived with the California boat.

 We can discuss in detail what went into Details and the incredible pack of lies the owner tossed around as the boat was being repaired.

 

 I think you might find it interesting. I was told to hide keels, keel shoes and anything YOU might be interested in, from " the Hustler spy" Sailman. Spirit of competition, my ass! He has been used as an unsuspecting pawn, don't hate him for being star struck. That bullshit chasing after J29 immersion info is fuktup, particularly since they swapped masts with huge weight delta's aloft. 

You are right about one thing, nobody will do a thing about it. I was actually told to "be careful!" Nut sacks have no idea how little I care about the warning. Was it a warning or threat? Hoping it was a threat, nothing would be more fun than standing toe to toe with that lying sack of shit......

 If "he" denies doing it, he's a liar And I become very unsalable around pathological liars.........(hehe, he's gonna find out real fast how stable I am.)

 

Call me, nothing worries the flock more than us being buds.............

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22 minutes ago, PeterRoss said:

Hey John if you are in Newport swing by the shop and say hello, check out the dumpy dust factory.

 I'll show you where the secret weapon shit is hidden. We can measure and weigh the mast that arrived with the California boat.

 We can discuss in detail what went into Details and the incredible pack of lies the owner tossed around as the boat was being repaired.

 

 I think you might find it interesting. I was told to hide keels, keel shoes and anything YOU might be interested in, from " the Hustler spy" Sailman. Spirit of competition, my ass! He has been used as an unsuspecting pawn, don't hate him for being star struck. That bullshit chasing after J29 immersion info is fuktup, particularly since they swapped masts with huge weight delta's aloft. 

You are right about one thing, nobody will do a thing about it. I was actually told to "be careful!" Nut sacks have no idea how little I care about the warning. Was it a warning or threat? Hoping it was a threat, nothing would be more fun than standing toe to toe with that lying sack of shit......

 If "he" denies doing it, he's a liar And I become very unsalable around pathological liars.........(hehe, he's gonna find out real fast how stable I am.)

 

Call me, nothing worries the flock more than us being buds.............

They have a nice FB page!  https://www.facebook.com/Details-Racing-176705369450854/

Are you retracting this?

  On 7/29/2016 at 11:57 PM, PeterRoss said:

The boat is very solid, structure was and is in great shape. Most of the glasswork on John's boat was related to deck core repair. Some glass was used to clean up keel bolt backing plate pockets (purely peace of mind and appearance) and some glass/bog to create a solid mating surface for the keel.

Beautiful boat with a very loving new owner who will no doubt be the boat's perfect steward.

 

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I retract none of that.

Willing to edit some of the other info.

Have never been less proud of an extreme effort for a less deserving soul.

 

 Compare photos of the masts, tip locations and then add the significant weight aloft. Old rig had three heavy doublers screwed the  entire length of mast. Mast is in sections now, not a single issue, just heavy and no bend.

 Just saying the boat should get the boot or a significant hit. There was clear intent to deceive and no reason for it. 

 They managed to change Sailboatdata deleted old data for current. Certs are a joke.

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4 hours ago, PeterRoss said:

Hey John if you are in Newport swing by the shop and say hello, check out the dumpy dust factory.

 I'll show you where the secret weapon shit is hidden. We can measure and weigh the mast that arrived with the California boat.

 We can discuss in detail what went into Details and the incredible pack of lies the owner tossed around as the boat was being repaired.

 

 I think you might find it interesting. I was told to hide keels, keel shoes and anything YOU might be interested in, from " the Hustler spy" Sailman. Spirit of competition, my ass! He has been used as an unsuspecting pawn, don't hate him for being star struck. That bullshit chasing after J29 immersion info is fuktup, particularly since they swapped masts with huge weight delta's aloft. 

You are right about one thing, nobody will do a thing about it. I was actually told to "be careful!" Nut sacks have no idea how little I care about the warning. Was it a warning or threat? Hoping it was a threat, nothing would be more fun than standing toe to toe with that lying sack of shit......

 If "he" denies doing it, he's a liar And I become very unsalable around pathological liars.........(hehe, he's gonna find out real fast how stable I am.)

 

Call me, nothing worries the flock more than us being buds.............

Finally the true comes out.

I knew it all along.

I can't believe the foll in ECSA let him win by that margin, looks like last weeks race was thrown and then blowharded on FB on how a J29 beat them. JOKE   

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as long as we are in thread hijack mode can anyone tell me where the electronics recycling event at 1st beach was moved to?

looks like the boat show event parking and shuttle took over the spot in the 1st beach parking lot where the recycling was supposed to be.

lots of unhappy electronics recyclers

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On 9/16/2017 at 9:31 AM, davesect said:

pls  more  info  .....    more  details   please

I am sure there will be more to come

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hate  fckin  punks,   and  dislike  those that  cheat.     not  entirely sure I know  boat  / owner   discussed....very little sailing  past  ten years.

Ban the  motha   fcker for  ,  perhaps, 5 years?  bless up all  ,  out.

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On August 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Parma said:

it's worth attending if you haven't been before.

Go on Thursday – avoid the weekend

the best local bar is the one without tourists; try the IA

this show should be cut up into separate events

one for sail

another for powerboats

possibly a 3rd for the mega and brokerage yachts

or combine the sail, mega and brokerage

 

On August 30, 2017 at 0:04 AM, MauiPunter said:

I actually enjoy the Used Boat Show next door much more than the New Boat Show.  Don't miss it.  Its free and more fun.

 

On September 1, 2017 at 9:21 AM, garyedelman said:

New J 121 will be in the water at the show.

 

On September 1, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Shenanigan77 said:

If memory serves, it used to be two separate shows - one for power and one for sail.  Sail didn't have critical mass to survive stand alone.  Not enough whack jobs like us.

I agree with the comment it's worth it if you haven't been.  Also agree with Thursday or Friday.  Try to be there when it opens.  Lines can get long later.

Thanks to all..!

We attended.  Thursday was plenty of time to cover the whole show even though we bumped around a little in detail on Friday. In general Newport is...very nice. who wouldn't love in here. The Used boat show was realistically more our speed and worth the visit.  The J Boats over at the Newport Shipyard were both as much Boat porn as Carbon porn. Gunboat Elvis was tucked in over there as well and the crew was really friendly and proud to show her off - nice.  At the Show, The Hinckley people were wonderful and are clearly one of the reasons for their tremendous success - great display of product.  Friday we visited the IYRS School of Technology and Trades and only wish I had collage to do over again - worth a visit to any one who has any vague interest anything marine oriented.

As recommended from others and what I walked away with from the Newport International Boat Show:

Best advice - Irish American Club, real people and a great out of the way bar, we stayed far to long.  

Second Best advice - Thursday VIP tickets

Stand Outs - For personality and for the product they either design or represent.  First, Toralf Strand at SEASCAPE, amazing amount of time and care given to anyone interested in this brilliant line of boats. Sail  in the Mac or push it off the beach. It isn't Lux its Simple well thought out, torpedo powered and universally useful. Seascape is paying attention to who and what a sailor is and how most of us sail. On the polar side of sailing spectrum and with a finger on the pulse both Gino Morrelli and Mark Womble at Morrelli+Melvin are second.  After we told them separately, we were boat voyeurs only, they individually spent well over 45 min. in great detail knowing we had no potential to buy - great marketing and insight into the design of these advanced boats.  Mark clearly has a dream job as was evident from his constant smile and enthusiasm.

Upside -  Even though they were tucked away in a corner and that they didn't have a boat on display or in the water, the new Melges IC 37 info from Harry was new and at least closer to affordable. As evident from the big crowds at J-Boats for the J121, looks like it will be a winner for them. Beneteau had their line up in the water and did a really nice job taking their guests around.

Best food - Scales and Shells on Thames, really good food with a great bartender, sit at the bar.

Second Best food - the Newport Lobster Shack Trailer on Long Wharf, in a word...fresh!

Best energy - The crowd at Clarke Cooke House on Bannisters Wharf.

Downside - Nothing earth shaking at the show. Small and limited sailboat presence.  Not that I don't have interest in powerboats, I do! I like it all "kink and porn", I would have liked more for the sailing crowd as stated from Shenanigan77 above. I was fair warned.  

Worst - The Gunboat sales and marketing people were terrible, in the way and unfriendly but what a gorgeous boat (h20) ! They let us look in the windows..from the dock...how about that!  Glad we ran into the crew of Elvis prior or my respect would have been shaken. The Thames Street International Yacht and Athletic Club - never again should any self respecting person step foot., although while there I had an interesting conversation with the Harken sales guy about the Grinder on the Melges 40.

Would I go again - Not unless I was already in town.  Clearly I had more fun outside the show.  For now....once is enough.

Thanks again 

 

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Nice run down Soling!  I agree about the sailboat presence, it was weak.  The 121 was impressive, excellent gear layout and very functional interior. 

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15 minutes ago, soling said:

 

 

 

 

Best advice - Irish American Club, real people and a great out of the way bar, we stayed far to long.  You went to the IA? Good for you. I mean outstanding for you. kudos for getting off the beaten path. the IA is one of the few remaining local neighborhood bars.

Second Best advice - Thursday VIP tickets

Stand Outs - For personality and for the product they either design or represent.  First, Toralf Strand at SEASCAPE, amazing amount of time and care given to anyone interested in this brilliant line of boats. Sail  in the Mac or push it off the beach. It isn't Lux its Simple well thought out, torpedo powered and universally useful. Seascape is paying attention to who and what a sailor is and how most of us sail. On the polar side of sailing spectrum and with a finger on the pulse both Gino Morrelli and Mark Womble at Morrelli+Melvin are second.  After we told them separately, we were boat voyeurs only, they individually spent well over 45 min. in great detail knowing we had no potential to buy - great marketing and insight into the design of these advanced boats.  Mark clearly has a dream job as was evident from his constant smile and enthusiasm. the reason the Thursday tickets are worth it is because by Saturday the vendors are all tired of talking to people and answering the same damn questions for the thousandth time. plus it's less crowded on Thursday so you can get aboard the boats more easily and the vendors know that anybody who will pay the extra for the Thursday tickets is probably worth talking to.

Second Best food - the Newport Lobster Shack Trailer on Long Wharf, in a word...fresh! yup

how much for the J1 21? Was there a "boat show special"?

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1 hour ago, sailman said:

Nice run down Soling!  I agree about the sailboat presence, it was weak.  The 121 was impressive, excellent gear layout and very functional interior. 

Hey sorry we didn't run into each other. I was looking for you.;)

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3 hours ago, soling said:

 

 

 

Thanks to all..!

We attended.  Thursday was plenty of time to cover the whole show even though we bumped around a little in detail on Friday. In general Newport is...very nice. who wouldn't love in here. The Used boat show was realistically more our speed and worth the visit.  The J Boats over at the Newport Shipyard were both as much Boat porn as Carbon porn. Gunboat Elvis was tucked in over there as well and the crew was really friendly and proud to show her off - nice.  At the Show, The Hinckley people were wonderful and are clearly one of the reasons for their tremendous success - great display of product.  Friday we visited the IYRS School of Technology and Trades and only wish I had collage to do over again - worth a visit to any one who has any vague interest anything marine oriented.

As recommended from others and what I walked away with from the Newport International Boat Show:

Best advice - Irish American Club, real people and a great out of the way bar, we stayed far to long.  

Second Best advice - Thursday VIP tickets

Stand Outs - For personality and for the product they either design or represent.  First, Toralf Strand at SEASCAPE, amazing amount of time and care given to anyone interested in this brilliant line of boats. Sail  in the Mac or push it off the beach. It isn't Lux its Simple well thought out, torpedo powered and universally useful. Seascape is paying attention to who and what a sailor is and how most of us sail. On the polar side of sailing spectrum and with a finger on the pulse both Gino Morrelli and Mark Womble at Morrelli+Melvin are second.  After we told them separately, we were boat voyeurs only, they individually spent well over 45 min. in great detail knowing we had no potential to buy - great marketing and insight into the design of these advanced boats.  Mark clearly has a dream job as was evident from his constant smile and enthusiasm.

Upside -  Even though they were tucked away in a corner and that they didn't have a boat on display or in the water, the new Melges IC 37 info from Harry was new and at least closer to affordable. As evident from the big crowds at J-Boats for the J121, looks like it will be a winner for them. Beneteau had their line up in the water and did a really nice job taking their guests around.

Best food - Scales and Shells on Thames, really good food with a great bartender, sit at the bar.

Second Best food - the Newport Lobster Shack Trailer on Long Wharf, in a word...fresh!

Best energy - The crowd at Clarke Cooke House on Bannisters Wharf.

Downside - Nothing earth shaking at the show. Small and limited sailboat presence.  Not that I don't have interest in powerboats, I do! I like it all "kink and porn", I would have liked more for the sailing crowd as stated from Shenanigan77 above. I was fair warned.  

Worst - The Gunboat sales and marketing people were terrible, in the way and unfriendly but what a gorgeous boat (h20) ! They let us look in the windows..from the dock...how about that!  Glad we ran into the crew of Elvis prior or my respect would have been shaken. The Thames Street International Yacht and Athletic Club - never again should any self respecting person step foot., although while there I had an interesting conversation with the Harken sales guy about the Grinder on the Melges 40.

Would I go again - Not unless I was already in town.  Clearly I had more fun outside the show.  For now....once is enough.

Thanks again 

 

 

 

Maybe the Gunboat folks sized you up and didnt like the cut of your jib. Most of their customers dont get their lobster dinners from trailer kitchens.   And if you were next to Sailman wearing a flannel shirt.... well, surprised you would get inside the J121 

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On September 15, 2017 at 9:53 AM, PeterRoss said:

Hey John if you are in Newport swing by the shop and say hello, check out the dumpy dust factory.

 I'll show you where the secret weapon shit is hidden. We can measure and weigh the mast that arrived with the California boat.

 We can discuss in detail what went into Details and the incredible pack of lies the owner tossed around as the boat was being repaired.

 

 I think you might find it interesting. I was told to hide keels, keel shoes and anything YOU might be interested in, from " the Hustler spy" Sailman. Spirit of competition, my ass! He has been used as an unsuspecting pawn, don't hate him for being star struck. That bullshit chasing after J29 immersion info is fuktup, particularly since they swapped masts with huge weight delta's aloft. 

You are right about one thing, nobody will do a thing about it. I was actually told to "be careful!" Nut sacks have no idea how little I care about the warning. Was it a warning or threat? Hoping it was a threat, nothing would be more fun than standing toe to toe with that lying sack of shit......

 If "he" denies doing it, he's a liar And I become very unsalable around pathological liars.........(hehe, he's gonna find out real fast how stable I am.)

 

Call me, nothing worries the flock more than us being buds.............

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I would say the crowd on Thursday was about 70% Power, 20% sail and 10% was there for other reasons. On Friday the numbers almost swapped, and on Saturday it was an almost even split. On Sunday it was slow, partly because the Pats were on at 1, I wish I brought an antenna again. I forget every year for my neighbors booth that has more TV's than Walmart. 

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