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Different AC Sailmaker?

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We can't announce who guesses it right at this point, but first correct guess - which team and which brand - wins SA swag. Have fun.

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Uk-Halsey.

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When will you be able to tell?

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Spanish team - Quantum although it should be mentioned that Dave Ullman was on staff at BMW-O

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K Challenge with Incidence

(Someone took my first guess but I waouldn't mind some kit)

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Soshalooza (sp?), Doyle sails

i agree, even though it negates my chance of winning

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Germany with Quantum!

Thats what we want to see...SA gear worn at scuzzlebutt...excellent!!

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:rolleyes: Lads its come on....

Uk Halsey with China team....

any way they have some new sails on the boat. they will be getting more later.

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Now that's Schnacks is off Emirates TNZ they may have fallen out with big blue? So what about ETNZ and ? - Doyle I guess?? even them or Q

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Now that's Schnacks is off Emirates TNZ they may have fallen out with big blue? So what about ETNZ and ? - could only be Doyle or Q i'd think

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:rolleyes:

Lads you should read before you wright....

Its UK Halsey with the China / Le Defi team.

they have some sails on the boat now and will be getting more later on....

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Any team that doesn't use Norths will Win... !

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Hows this 1 - Big Larry has signed Kiteship and "sails online"

 

 

bet ya BMW would love that!

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I think AG & KE are going to start a loft (WebeGe) and make sails for one of the challengers. :unsure:

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Germany with Quantum is my guess.

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How could there be any new sailmakers per se in the Cup since each program has their own in house sail designers and sailmakers. North has been supplying blanks to the syndicates, built to the in house designers specs, for the last three cups. All they really need to do is get some type of blank membrane in house that they can finish to their specifications. It would be a very expensive proposition to create their own membrane process since it might only be a 3 year program so it only makes sense they would have their membranes produced elsewhere and they construct and finish them in house. This protects their design info and allows them to have blanks on hand that can be assembled quickly and easily for replacements or test shapes. D4 has the best record to date on this type of construction and sizes so why wouldn’t all the syndicates go to D/P and have blanks made that they can finish themselves?

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China....whoflungcum sails

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anybody getting down with Kiteship? This ain't IRC....

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The China/Le Defi syndicate will use UK/Halsey kites

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anybody getting down with Kiteship? This ain't IRC....

didnt oracle trial kiteship in auckland? i vaguely remember seeing pictures....

 

my guess... Hkasey/ lidgard oracle :huh:

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I would figure it would be a team that knows it's not going to win and basically has nothing to lose.

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riracer is right. plus all the ac shops used more than just north last time, just might have not made it out on the race course. i am sure tried asyms from all the top shops to make sure they cover all the bases.

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I would agree with the Fresh 17 team from Germany to use Elvström Sobstad: said so ages ago......http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14073&hl=

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didnt oracle trial kiteship in auckland? i vaguely remember seeing pictures....

 

my guess... Hkasey/ lidgard oracle :huh:

yes but they bitched out. Yes I said it just like that Aussie wanker with AAPT.

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didnt oracle trial kiteship in auckland? i vaguely remember seeing pictures....

 

my guess... Hkasey/ lidgard oracle :huh:

yes but they bitched out. Yes I said it just like that Aussie wanker with AAPT.

what do you mean by "bitched out"?

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You have a problem with AAPT or Aussies?

 

 

thatbarguy

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didnt oracle trial kiteship in auckland? i vaguely remember seeing pictures....

 

my guess... Hkasey/ lidgard oracle :huh:

yes but they bitched out. Yes I said it just like that Aussie wanker with AAPT.

OutLeader kites (by KiteShip; http://www.kiteship.com) MIGHT be illegal under v.5 rules:

 

"All sails shall be set with their heads in close proximity to the mast."

 

However, see the Oxford English Dictionary (per IACC rules) for the definition of "set" and of "close proximity." In 2003 the official IACC rules intrepeter determined that "set" refers to the act of "setting" a sail; as differentiated from "flying" said sail. OED suggests that "the Moon is in close proximity to the Earth."

 

So you tell me; is anyone playing with kites for the 2007 AC?

 

No Rumours

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I'll let you know soon......

How soon is soon?! (figured I'd bump this up so I didn't have to scroll so far to look for it) Inquiring minds and all that!

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How soon is soon?! (figured I'd bump this up so I didn't have to scroll so far to look for it) Inquiring minds and all that!

Come on Ed, we want to know the answer. :angry:

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Well I hear Des McWilliam is making some kites for an AC team, so I guess the UK/Halsey Vs China/LeDefi is the correct answer.

I think all AC teams will be using North upwind inventory.... if they have sense...

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Well I hear Des McWilliam is making some kites for an AC team, so I guess the UK/Halsey Vs China/LeDefi is the correct answer.

I think all AC teams will be using North upwind inventory.... if they have sense...

Do you work for North?.

 

It is the design that is most important, and if the designs are in house to each team, and not just North designers, I think it would be good for the sport to see some some Fusion M or Ultra etc on the water.

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That story broke here long ago, brought to you by Guy LeDouche. It's team Kiss Me Arse, using Garbasail.

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forgive me for possibly sounding a bit uninformed and/or stupid, but i thought North Sails had an agreement with Southern Spars over if its a Southern rig than they use North sails.....Dont most of the boats have rigs built by Southern?

yeah, maybe so. and mixing north sails with southern spars you get what? an equatorial boat? hehehe.

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yeah, maybe so. and mixing north sails with southern spars you get what? an equatorial boat? hehehe.

hehehe thats good, i like that

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hehehe thats good, i like that

thanks. i just couldn't help making the joke.

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Funny NorbyMuhle whatever that means, your avatar looks like the MahJong tile for "north" hmmm.....

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forgive me for possibly sounding a bit uninformed and/or stupid, but i thought North Sails had an agreement with Southern Spars over if its a Southern rig than they use North sails.....Dont most of the boats have rigs built by Southern?

well, Alinghi won the last America's Cup using a Hall Spar so I wouldn't assume that's a given......

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forgive me for possibly sounding a bit uninformed and/or stupid, but i thought North Sails had an agreement with Southern Spars over if its a Southern rig than they use North sails.....Dont most of the boats have rigs built by Southern?

wasn't the north sails monopoly the cup that TNZ won two cups ago. Thought the Omohundro mast wouldn't accept anything but a custom North luff tape. I could be wrong though.... :blink:

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Funny NorbyMuhle whatever that means, your avatar looks like the MahJong tile for "north" hmmm.....

as a matter of fact it comes from Norberto "Norby" Mühle and my avatar is the chinese ideogram for thunder, which happens to be my nickname (in portuguese, since i'm a brazilian sailor, "trovão") among my sailing community due to, let's say, the "tone" of my voice.

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I'll let you know soon......

What the f ED. You said soon almost 6 weeks ago. Inquiring (and diluted) minds want to know.

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Well, the China Team used a UK Halsey D4 main and 2 headsails. Musicman designed them, he'll probably post some shots as some point if someone bugs him to do it.

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Hi,

 

I think it's the Germans! They recently startetd their training with old sails. If they had subscribed with North we would have heard it in GER! Maybe its Sobström 'cause Jesper Bank worked there in former times. Maybe it's Quantum, 'cause Albert Schweizer is the Local Hero in Hamburg where most of the German AC stuff is is situated.

 

 

>The local hero Albert does not sell Quantum sails any more, and it was often wise to do things different from others to get a chance to improve.

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Albert does not sell quantum any more????

any news on that???

cheers from kiel

 

 

 

Hi,

 

I think it's the Germans! They recently startetd their training with old sails. If they had subscribed with North we would have heard it in GER! Maybe its Sobström 'cause Jesper Bank worked there in former times. Maybe it's Quantum, 'cause Albert Schweizer is the Local Hero in Hamburg where most of the German AC stuff is is situated.

 

 

>The local hero Albert does not sell Quantum sails any more, and it was often wise to do things different from others to get a chance to improve.

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WHY ARE YOU STILL GUESSING!!!!

Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick,It is UK Halsey / China. There are photos in all sailing rags. AND IT HAS BEEN SAID ON THIS FORUM A BEZILLION TIMES!

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QUOTE(Matt B @ Feb 11 2006, 09:18 AM)

WHY ARE YOU STILL GUESSING!!!!

Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick,It is UK Halsey / China. There are photos in all sailing rags. AND IT HAS BEEN SAID ON THIS FORUM A BEZILLION TIMES!

Somebody needs a nap....

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B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Matt B @ Feb 11 2006, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

WHY ARE YOU STILL GUESSING!!!!

Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick,It is UK Halsey / China. There are photos in all sailing rags. AND IT HAS BEEN SAID ON THIS FORUM A BEZILLION TIMES!

Somebody needs a nap....

 

 

everytime i hear BEZILLION i think of Forest, Forest Gump... and i have to chuckle to myself

 

jeff b is right...this is sailing anarchy, but dude you need to relax.

 

....is it team oracle bmw and are they using Haarstick sails? :P

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