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You have to wonder how much longer Hintze will keep throwing money down the hole. Chances are they'll be clobbered by Rambler . . . . . . . again.

 

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

jonas conditions permitting Hugo Boss might shake the bottom of that list up.

yes maybe, but would require quite exceptional conditions.  looks like decent winds on the way back though

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current forecast of ECMWF model is giving wind mid-week ... 

but it is still far from today 

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It is very easy for sailors be it racers or cruisers alike to easily forget about what is truly happening outside the doors of that yacht club or beachside bar for the people who live in these places on the other side of the orange. 

Just as easy to maybe also take for granted some of the freedoms and expectations we enjoy at home.

Would be nice if sailors visiting Malta this coming week maybe give the place and this chick a thought.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/16/world/europe/daphne-caruana-galizia-journalist-malta.html?mwrsm=amp-email

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^^^^  This

Terrible when all she was doing was her job.

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The ECMWF-GC model in Squid does show stronger winds (30kts average, plus if you consider those forecast are always under estimated) for the 23rd in the morning ... the big boats will probably have crossed the line before ...  "smaller" one's will be affected probably 

and the model is not always accurate with very local venturi effects ... so, keep an eye on the weather for sure :)

 

here attached forecast is for 23rd 09.00 AM GMT

 

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Tracker.... though 'currently' showing last's years contenders....

http://www.rolexmiddlesearace.com/tracker/#pt

I did the Messina Strait mucho times back in Aug/Sept.... should be interesting seeing the fleet negotiate the ferry's whizzing out of the uber busy harbour there.... and tis very shallow if you cut the corner at the top...heading West.

They will also see these weird looking fishing boats.... spadara.jpg.63851f632034149fb75a3a9cfb721656.jpg

The complete gantry front is missing on this pic in fact!!

 

 

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Confusing photo..... Found a better one

For fishing Swordfish it seems...

 

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And they're off! Light air strategies key for the first day.... BLACWATER XS35 in the lead currently...

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Rambo has a nice lead though never under estimate the Mount Etna factor....lol

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Its a real tough slog up that Messina strait current wise if the wind is on the nose....and then there's the overfalls...and the VTS system...

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Rambler leading with a blistering pace   ...1.3 knots    through the Messina sraits

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Rambo is well clear.... the bigger question is has the rest of the fleet figured out the BASTARDO....?

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42 minutes ago, Moonduster said:

Did Proteus leave their tracker on the dock or the whole boat?

 

Looks like they did abandon the race. 

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22 minutes ago, LionessRacing said:

What’s the strategy for Rambler to overstand that far ? 

I was wondering the same, a slightly erratic course as well. 

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*What’s the strategy for Rambler to overstand that far ?*

NEMS 4km suggest stronger winds at 02:00 about level where they are now on the tracker....

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the tracker for this race blows syphlytic donkey dicks

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THANK YOU!

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Looks like a few retiring including the Maxi 72 MOMO. CQS constantly slower than Leopard which is a cruiser/racer compared to CQS. 

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Alex is doing 17kts,  and has a deeper angle to the corner of Sicily, that may allow him to foil all the way home. 

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1 hour ago, LionessRacing said:

Alex is doing 17kts,  and has a deeper angle to the corner of Sicily, that may allow him to foil all the way home. 

Yes he is by far the fastest boat in the fleet now..! 

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3 hours ago, bayboy said:

CQS losing to Leopard is not good, shame for MOMO and Proteus love to see them down under for a S2H

 

CQS has having a hard time keeping up with Varuna.

42 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Have to think Senor Alex is warming up the rockets ready for launch time.

Yes, let's see if they can pull it off. Rambler isn't very slow downhill either. Hope they at least get some good shots . Usually have helicopter

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lots of boats appear to be bailing out. it is gettin a bit sporty

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Varuna is sailing in the wrong direction. Must suck if they have to retire at this point

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Speeds have picked up Rambler is gone out of sight and shame for Varuna, some decent boats retiring must be getting lumpy, the official site is hopeless on any real news

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Well the bigly winds kicked in last night as expected.... and Rambler and Mike's boyz on Leopard have taken full advantage...

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Before the wind fizzles should lead to some spectacular down wave SOG numbers... R88 docking this evening?

 

 

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Will be interesting to see if or when Maverick will pass the 46 footer Tonnerre de Glen

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

Alex now lit up doing 24+...will mow Leopard down..Rambler slowing but too far up the runway.

Alex around 10 miles behind Leopard if my lat and long is still ok. Going around 3-4 knots faster than Leopard, CQS falling behind. 

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17 hours ago, mad said:

I was wondering the same, a slightly erratic course as well. 

This routing screen shot by Hugo Boss before the race start might provide some insightIMG_3825.thumb.JPG.624e32e5c50f9f471cb348a26f12789a.JPG

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I read somewhere cas doesn't have their foil so might explain (a bit) why they getting their arse kicked. Crusader doing great

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CQS will never ever ever be good. Can  we just stop talking about them now? 

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Maverick has found some speed. Going faster than the other boats behind CQS. Btw, apparently  the Ker46 "Tonnerre" is the previous boat of the current owner of the Ker51 ex  Varuna   

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1 hour ago, jonas a said:

HB is not sailing as deep as Leopard, Will be tough to beat them

Once Alex has made the turn he should well set for the drag race home.

 

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4 hours ago, jonas a said:

Maverick has found some speed. Going faster than the other boats behind CQS. Btw, apparently  the Ker46 "Tonnerre" is the previous boat of the current owner of the Ker51 ex  Varuna   

They have pulled a 20nm lead in front of the Kerr, about to roll the cookson 50, but don't think they have the curry to catch the botin 65 unless they get a 20kt reach.

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Odd. His tweet from 14 minutes ago is good, but was a few miles before your post. Maybe they should not text and drive.

The guys have entered the final stretch! Currently 3rd on the water, travelling at 16 knots & under 75 nautical miles till the finish line!
 
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1 hour ago, forss said:

Not good direction for HB.

 

I hope boat is in one piece.

 

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Made a detour to pick up some new Europeans.

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race coverage is crap this year. Half a dozen photos of some of the front runners and a short clip of Rambler and they think their work is done? 

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You would think Rolex would demand a standard coverage across their sponsorship due to nature of their branding to high end users, and people wonder why sailing doesn't resonate with the public.

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HB 2nd across in Line Honours . . .  but can't find HB's standing on the official site. Did Leopard not finish?

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11 minutes ago, stief said:

HB 2nd across in Line Honours . . .  but can't find HB's standing on the official site. Did Leopard not finish?

It shows Leopard 3rd in Line Honours and Hugo Boss 2nd doesn't make sense to me? Unless Leopard missed the finish and had to go back? CQS still sailing, they are officially a 70-80 foot performance boat with 100 feet of length. 

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Playing Leopard's track shows them approaching, but not crossing, the finish line. Not sure if that is just a tracker display issue. Shrug. Awaiting the official news.

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1 hour ago, terrafirma said:

It shows Leopard 3rd in Line Honours and Hugo Boss 2nd doesn't make sense to me?

RO got on the drink and hasn't  logged into YB any finishers other than Rambler who got in earlier in the evening.

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Maverick have rolled the cookson by 7nm, now 50+ ahead of the Kerr 46 and clawed back 4nm on the caro the 65.

Must be the foils hey??? 

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Well well well! According to the official results in IRC1, HB only 5 minutes behind Rambler on corrected time. Leopard corrected time is 1 hr 18 minutes after HB, then CQS 9 hours corrected later in 4th. Big congrats to HB. 

http://www.rolexmiddlesearace.com/results/?RaceEventID=33&RaceID=55&divisionID=79&classID=&TransitPointID=23

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10 minutes ago, Moonduster said:

Big congrats for being 2nd?

Double-handed in a 60 footer against 3 fully crewed boats that were 88-100', in a race where a big portion of the fleet dropped out due to the conditions.  Yeah, I'd say congrats are on order.  Do you think are disappointed with second?

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2 hours ago, savoir said:

Don't worry.  Once the CQS guys get their new foils tuned they'll be winning everything.

 

I think their decision not to enter the Hobart was based on the boat sailing back to Aus. They couldnt get it on a ship and at the speed they sail it probably wouldnt be back here until February 2018

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28 minutes ago, dachopper said:

Maverick have rolled the cookson by 7nm, now 50+ ahead of the Kerr 46 and clawed back 4nm on the caro the 65.

Must be the foils hey??? 

Finally got the result you have been spruiking DC. BUT still pretty spartan compared to a Cookson 50. 

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11 minutes ago, SCANAS said:

Finally got the result you have been spruiking DC. BUT still pretty spartan compared to a Cookson 50. 

When it finally got the perfect conditions it needed to utilize DSS. Hey, righting moment is righting moment. 

 

Not much of an all-rounder..

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24 minutes ago, Roleur said:

Double-handed in a 60 footer against 3 fully crewed boats that were 88-100', in a race where a big portion of the fleet dropped out due to the conditions.  Yeah, I'd say congrats are on order.  Do you think are disappointed with second?

They weren't double-handed. They sailed 4 up.

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55 minutes ago, Last Post said:

I think their decision not to enter the Hobart was based on the boat sailing back to Aus. They couldnt get it on a ship and at the speed they sail it probably wouldnt be back here until February 2018

That was their official reason but not the truth to many here. They would be shown up big time doing the Hobart with so many good boats entered

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1 hour ago, stief said:

Well well well! According to the official results in IRC1, HB only 5 minutes behind Rambler on corrected time. Leopard corrected time is 1 hr 18 minutes after HB, then CQS 9 hours corrected later in 4th. Big congrats to HB. 

http://www.rolexmiddlesearace.com/results/?RaceEventID=33&RaceID=55&divisionID=79&classID=&TransitPointID=23

Everyone was talking line honours originally not corrected time. The official results show Leopard crossing the line ahead of Hugo Boss despite the tracker showing HB finishing 2nd in Line Honours

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Is there any more Heli footage of the boats yet? Would love to see Rambler, HB, Leopard and CQS hooking downwind.

 

Would also love to see maverick passing the cookson 50s

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6 hours ago, Last Post said:

I think their decision not to enter the Hobart was based on the boat sailing back to Aus. They couldnt get it on a ship and at the speed they sail it probably wouldnt be back here until February 2018

 

Well either that or a serious case of embarrassment.

 

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Some great drone footage of the start , Boss up on their foil for a second and Maverick's DSS, CQS mistakes and torn sails par for the course. 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Some great drone footage of the start , Boss up on their foil for a second and Maverick's DSS, CQS mistakes and torn sails par for the course. 

 

 

 

CQS looking less and less like a good idea on each outing.

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Some waste much of their life fortune on blow and hookers. Others throw it away on sailing experiments. (Larry Ellison comes to mind). Good on them for trying to breathe life into a 100ft chunk of carbon. At least they gave it a crack. 

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6 minutes ago, richiec said:

Some waste much of their life fortune on blow and hookers. Others throw it away on sailing experiments. (Larry Ellison comes to mind). Good on them for trying to breathe life into a 100ft chunk of carbon. At least they gave it a crack. 

Incredibly slow for a 100 foot racing yacht that as foils.! Perhaps it is a chunk of carbon and they have done very well to complete some races? Yes that's it..! :D

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Awesome pace on the little 35ft Elliott "Crusader," running in the top ten on line and currently 60nm ahead of the 11th place boat  with only 35nm to go.  In that fleet her performance is nothing short of amazing for a boat of her size. 

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9 minutes ago, Last Post said:

Awesome pace on the little 35ft Elliott "Crusader," running in the top ten on line and currently 60nm ahead of the 11th place boat  with only 35nm to go.  In that fleet her performance is nothing short of amazing for a boat of her size. 

Once they turned the corner it would be what she was built for. Incredible downwind boat. 

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9 hours ago, SCANAS said:

Finally got the result you have been spruiking DC. BUT still pretty spartan compared to a Cookson 50. 

... You could say they finally had a race with foiling conditions for a change.... still though not bad for a 70% upwind race to beat the cookson 4 feet longer.

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2 hours ago, richiec said:

Some waste much of their life fortune on blow and hookers. Others throw it away on sailing experiments. (Larry Ellison comes to mind). Good on them for trying to breathe life into a 100ft chunk of carbon. At least they gave it a crack. 

I think he could afford both

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2 hours ago, mad said:

CQS looking less and less like a good idea on each outing.

Hmm they lost quite a bit on that maneuver. Back to basics...

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26 minutes ago, Last Post said:

Buying Tatts ticket in the morning. 

Yeah. Serious bang 4 ur buck!

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