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18 minutes ago, Spatial Ed said:

Hill was which? Racist, bigot or murder?

same for Obama, which one?

Hill is the liar, Barry certa8nly the bigot and consorter of terrorists and murderers. But you are ok with that. Fine. 

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1 minute ago, Spatial Ed said:

Really?  That’s all you got?  

Really. Local teamster union stopped driving trucks moths ago. Supplies rotted on the docks. But, imagine your own reality.

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11 minutes ago, warbird said:

Hill is the liar, Barry certa8nly the bigot and consorter of terrorists and murderers. But you are ok with that. Fine. 

Why is Barry the Bigot?  Consorting with terrorists and murderers is what trump does with the Russians.

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9 minutes ago, warbird said:

Really. Local teamster union stopped driving trucks moths ago. Supplies rotted on the docks. But, imagine your own reality.

Really?  You get that from Breitbart?

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2 hours ago, warbird said:

The dems supported murders , bigots, racosts and liars. What is the problem?

We know who supports child molestors. Pretty fucking disgusting.

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57 minutes ago, warbird said:

Ted, Hill, Barry.

Ted Danson, Benny Hill, Barry White?

I'm confused, which one is a child molester running for a Senate seat?

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2 hours ago, B.J. Porter said:

Were you born congenitally stupid, or did your mom potty train you with a tack hammer?

I suspect he played a lot of football without a helmet.

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3 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

You might want to change that to Thomas, since Scalia didn't join that part of his opinion in Greece v Galloway

I'm a fan of Thomas' opinions on various subjects but not that one. Mainly because Pennsylvania.

We had state religions in the founding era.

 

Nope- here’s Scalia:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/90-1014.ZD.html

read the whole thing-

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3 hours ago, Sean said:
3 hours ago, warbird said:

You sir are am idiot

 

Classic.

YCMTSU.

The Trumpista self-owns are so precious.

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4 hours ago, Captain Gigi said:

@B.J. Porter: Aw, you know I have something to say about science (but not too much). @Editor has been trying to teach me my place in these Forums. He's not done too well.

 

I have no idea what you are on about.

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4 hours ago, Amati said:
7 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

You might want to change that to Thomas, since Scalia didn't join that part of his opinion in Greece v Galloway

I'm a fan of Thomas' opinions on various subjects but not that one. Mainly because Pennsylvania.

We had state religions in the founding era.

 

Nope- here’s Scalia:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/90-1014.ZD.html

read the whole thing-

Interesting admonition. I've never started to read one without finishing. Though it took quite a while with the Citizens United mess.

Scalia doesn't go as far as Thomas, which is probably why he didn't join the opinion I noted.

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Thus, while I have no quarrel with the Court's general proposition that the Establishment Clause "guarantees that government may not coerce anyone to support or participate in religion or its exercise," ante, at 8, I see no warrant for expanding the concept of coercion beyond acts backed by threat of penalty — a brand of coercion that, happily, is readily discernible to those of us who have made a career of reading the disciples of Blackstone rather than of Freud.

Contrast with the article I linked:

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According to Thomas (and this is not new—he’s taken this position before), the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause applies only to the U.S. Congress (“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”)—meaning it applies only to the federal government. Pointing to the fact that some states did have established religions at the time the Constitution was ratified, and that some did not disestablish their religions until decades later (Massachusetts did not disestablish its state religion until 1833), Thomas—with clever wordplay—says the First Amendment is “simply agnostic on the subject of state establishments.” Thomas notes that it’s possible the Establishment Clause took on a different meaning through Reconstruction and the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in the 1860s. But he says the historical evidence for such an argument is “mixed,” and he’s not convinced.

I'm convinced by the mixed evidence that didn't convince Thomas. So was Scalia, or he would have joined part 1 of Thomas' opinion.

Just saying, if you're going to pick on a Justice over this issue, pick on Thomas. His views are more extreme and he's still alive and on the court.

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3 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

Interesting admonition. I've never started to read one without finishing. Though it took quite a while with the Citizens United mess.

Scalia doesn't go as far as Thomas, which is probably why he didn't join the opinion I noted.

Contrast with the article I linked:

I'm convinced by the mixed evidence that didn't convince Thomas. So was Scalia, or he would have joined part 1 of Thomas' opinion.

Just saying, if you're going to pick on a Justice over this issue, pick on Thomas. His views are more extreme and he's still alive and on the court.

For some reason :rolleyes:, Scalia (even dead), not Thomas, gets the Reaganesque worship out here in Northern Idaho land when talk turns to Trump Bolshevism.

Some of the local guys I’ve been ‘exposed to’ would probably suggest you move North to get South and set your pointy intellectual head right, guns or no......

(Sorry about the admonition, just awkward writing on my part - the good stuff was kind of buried towards the end of the opinion....)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, warbird said:

The island did not cooperate. Local politics.

What's to cooperate with?

 

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Trump Group Sends 12-Year-Old Girl to Interview Roy Moore Ahead of Alabama Election

Source: Newsweek

"A political group backing President Donald Trump has sent a 12-year-old girl to interview embattled Alabama Republican Senate contender Roy Moore. 

The America First Project published a video Sunday that showed Millie March—who rose to fame at the age of 11 during the 2016 election due to her support for Donald Trump—interviewing Moore as part of his campaign for election in Alabama."
 
 
No word if cameras caught Roy Moore inviting her to help herself to candy in his bedroom.

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6 minutes ago, warbird said:

80% of the teamsters didn't show for work.

umm, cause the roads were out?  cause their family had no shelter, no food nor water so they needed to take care of them?

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2 hours ago, warbird said:

80% of the teamsters didn't show for work.

Bull shit.

The Teamsters were begging for volunteers from all over the Continental USA to drive trucks for those on Puerto Rico who couldn't, but there was no fucking fuel for the trucks, and many roads were washed out making it impossible for trucks to get through even if they had fuel.

 The Govt. screwed these people like Moore was trying to screw little girls.

 If you've ever been to Puerto Rico, you might know that there are MANY ports of entry/access to the island. To say that the Govt. couldn't get goods from the port of San Juan to other parts of the island is like saying that The Govt. couldn't get goods to the rest of the continental USA from LA because the roads were out.

 Where was FEMA with a tanker full of Diesel fuel? Where was FEMA with the D-10 dozers? the big clam shell excavators?

 Once the paper towel throwing photo op was over, the funds dried up.

 Only a fraction of the help promised by the Administration has arrived..... And now let's all look at another distraction! OMG! A witch hunt!!!!!!!

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11 minutes ago, B.J. Porter said:

Figures a dim bulb like Warbird gets his news from a blog called "Conservative Treehouse".

I becha no gurlz aloud in the tree houz!

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Just now, Mrleft8 said:

I becha no gurlz aloud in the tree houz!

PredictIt. the money is on the child molestor: $.71 for Roy 

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1 minute ago, Raz'r said:

PredictIt. the money is on the child molestor: $.71 for Roy 

Go figure... Now if Alabamans were smart bettin' folk, they'd put their money on Jones, then go vote for him tomorrow....

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Just now, Mrleft8 said:

Go figure... Now if Alabamans were smart bettin' folk, they'd put their money on Jones, then go vote for him tomorrow....

I'm pretty sure nobody would use the word "smart" to describe Alabama voters.

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3 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

I'm pretty sure nobody would use the word "smart" to describe Alabama voters.

Crafty?

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7 hours ago, warbird said:

80% of the teamsters didn't show for work.

Trump should have sent beauty pageant teenagers down, that would have gotten a shit ton of Republicans chasing their tails.  Just put them in trucks.

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4 hours ago, Ishmael said:

I'm pretty sure nobody would use the word "smart" to describe Alabama voters.

People in Mississippi?

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6 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

What does Roy Moore hate about eating bald pussy?

 

Putting the diaper back on afterwards.  

Speaker at Moore event says he accidentally went with Moore to a brothel with child prostitutes

"There were certainly pretty girls. And they were girls. They were young. Some were very young."

 

"Roy Moore, who is running for U.S. Senate in Tuesday’s special election, is facing multiple allegations of child sex abuse. He has largely avoided the campaign trail since these allegations first surfaced. 

But on Monday night, the last day before the election, Moore held a rally. It got off to an interesting start. 

One of the introductory speakers was Bill Sailing, who said he served with Moore in Vietnam. Sailing told the story of a night he spent with Moore and a third man, who he did not name. According to Sailing it was the third man’s last night in Vietnam and the man invited them to a “private club” in the city to celebrate with “a couple of beers.” 

Moore and Sailing agreed. According to Sailing, they didn’t expect there was anything untoward going on at the “private club” because “there were legitimate private clubs” in Vietnam. The third man drove them to the club in his Jeep."

https://thinkprogress.org/speaker-at-moore-event-says-he-accidentally-went-with-moore-to-a-brothel-with-child-prostitutes-65c9819f8a1e/

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3 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

Speaker at Moore event says he accidentally went with Moore to a brothel with child prostitutes

"There were certainly pretty girls. And they were girls. They were young. Some were very young."

 

"Roy Moore, who is running for U.S. Senate in Tuesday’s special election, is facing multiple allegations of child sex abuse. He has largely avoided the campaign trail since these allegations first surfaced. 

But on Monday night, the last day before the election, Moore held a rally. It got off to an interesting start. 

One of the introductory speakers was Bill Sailing, who said he served with Moore in Vietnam. Sailing told the story of a night he spent with Moore and a third man, who he did not name. According to Sailing it was the third man’s last night in Vietnam and the man invited them to a “private club” in the city to celebrate with “a couple of beers.” 

Moore and Sailing agreed. According to Sailing, they didn’t expect there was anything untoward going on at the “private club” because “there were legitimate private clubs” in Vietnam. The third man drove them to the club in his Jeep."

https://thinkprogress.org/speaker-at-moore-event-says-he-accidentally-went-with-moore-to-a-brothel-with-child-prostitutes-65c9819f8a1e/

That could seal the pedo caucus within the GOP.

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1 hour ago, Raz'r said:

Condi comes out against bigotry. Wonder who she meant?

But her ladyballs weren't big enough to disavow Moore.

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1 hour ago, Mike G said:

Well, it's obvious they have no problems with the Jews...

 

Oh shit. They just lost the election.

The second you start talking about a Jew lawyer, you better have either a development deal for a miniseries or you better be within four miles of a fairly well-developed mass-transit system. You really don't want your audience to start thinking about Jew lawyers, which does to an election pretty much what a hot water bottle does to a porn shoot.

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17 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

"wow" isn't really the right word

The Alabama Supreme Court just decreed that the ballot stuffers have a free hand. This is bad for both parties, and for the country. Honest voting should be the bedrock of democracy.

-DSK

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1 minute ago, Steam Flyer said:

"wow" isn't really the right word

The Alabama Supreme Court just decreed that the ballot stuffers have a free hand. This is bad for both parties, and for the country. Honest voting should be the bedrock of democracy.

-DSK

Can't have Hanging Chads if Chad is shredded after the vote, with no backup...

Farking amazing actually.

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5 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

"wow" isn't really the right word

The Alabama Supreme Court just decreed that the ballot stuffers have a free hand. This is bad for both parties, and for the country. Honest voting should be the bedrock of democracy.

-DSK

Alabama is fighting hard to hang on to its reputation. The Racist Idiot State.

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9 minutes ago, Raz'r said:
11 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

"wow" isn't really the right word

The Alabama Supreme Court just decreed that the ballot stuffers have a free hand. This is bad for both parties, and for the country. Honest voting should be the bedrock of democracy.

-DSK

Can't have Hanging Chads if Chad is shredded after the vote, with no backup...

Farking amazing actually.

I dunno if it's amazing, I am sadly aware of how strongly anti-democracy many Americans are. But it's also following the scary precedent of allowing courts to decide elections, instead of the voters. Even scarier when you consider the one thing that Trump is doing efficiently is appointing "conservative activist" judges.

-DSK

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14 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

Can't have Hanging Chads if Chad is shredded after the vote, with no backup...

Farking amazing actually.

While I do see the same danger that you and Sol see, I have also voted there for many years, and those polling volunteers don't screw around there. They'll keep an eye on things.

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11 minutes ago, mikewof said:

While I do see the same danger that you and Sol see, I have also voted there for many years, and those polling volunteers don't screw around there. They'll keep an eye on things.

I hope you’re right. Pretty bad optics regardless. Then there’s also the closure of DMV’s in black communities. 

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/01/as_it_turns_out_bentleys_drive.html

Gov. Robert Bentley denied there was any racist intent behind the closure of 31 driver license offices in 2015, but an investigation by the United States Department of Transportation found they adversely impacted majority African-American counties.

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35 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

Can't have Hanging Chads if Chad is shredded after the vote, with no backup...

Farking amazing actually.

Actually the paper ballots will be preserved  this dealt with electronic records.  I can not see why the court would rule that way it sure as hell doesn't cost anything to keep electrnic records.  On the other hand the fear lately has been hacking, hard to do with paper.   I wonderr if the machines erase after down loading to avoid duplicate input to whearever the totals go?

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6 minutes ago, TMSAIL said:

Actually the paper ballots will be preserved  this dealt with electronic records.  I can not see why the court would rule that way it sure as hell doesn't cost anything to keep electrnic records.  On the other hand the fear lately has been hacking, hard to do with paper.   I wonderr if the machines erase after down loading to avoid duplicate input to whearever the totals go?

did you purposefully ignore the article?  paper ballots are destroyed after scanning.

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Well certainly, whether or not he has been found guilty of any felony in the state of Alabama, Roy Moore is guilty of moral turpitude, just based on the facts that he dated young girls when he was in his 30s.

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2 hours ago, Raz'r said:

did you purposefully ignore the article?  paper ballots are destroyed after scanning.

I read the artical.  Did you?   The paper ballots are not destroyed when scanned.  

Perhaps you are confusing destroyed AFTER the election by thinking it is at the time of scanning.   That is not the case.   Those ballots would be preserved  until after the election is certified.  

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1 hour ago, TMSAIL said:

I read the artical.  Did you?   The paper ballots are not destroyed when scanned.  

Perhaps you are confusing destroyed AFTER the election by thinking it is at the time of scanning.   That is not the case.   Those ballots would be preserved  until after the election is certified.  

and what in this, makes you think the paper ballots are kept until after the election is certified?
 

"But it's not, the paper ballot is not what's counted. That ballot is scanned and they destroy [the ballots] after the election.”

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1 hour ago, TMSAIL said:

I read the artical.  Did you?   The paper ballots are not destroyed when scanned.  

Perhaps you are confusing destroyed AFTER the election by thinking it is at the time of scanning.   That is not the case.   Those ballots would be preserved  until after the election is certified.  

 

4 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

and what in this, makes you think the paper ballots are kept until after the election is certified?
 

"But it's not, the paper ballot is not what's counted. That ballot is scanned and they destroy [the ballots] after the election.”

 

Neither of you followed the link.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/in_final-hour_order_court_rule.html#incart_river_home_pop

Paper ballots are kept for 22 months.

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The fun just never stops:

Moore came under additional criticism last week after implying that Democrat-backing business magnate George Soros would go to hell for his Jewish faith. Moore has suggested that Soros is meddling in the Alabama Senate race.

Moore’s wife sought to address the backlash on Monday. “Fake news would tell you that we don’t care for Jews,” Kayla Moore said. “I tell you all this because I’ve seen it also; I just want to set the record straight while they’re here. One of our attorneys is a Jew. We have very close friends who are Jewish and rabbis, and we also fellowship with them.” 

Our dog, our cat, our Jew.  Even in Alabama the 13th Amendment exists.

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Preliminary exit poll results show stark divides based on race in the US Senate race in Alabama.

  • Nearly six in 10 voters for Democrat Doug Jones were black in these preliminary exit polls
  • Nine in 10 Moore voters were white. A slim majority of voters for Moore were white men.

(Three in 10 voters in this election are black in these initial results, a number that can change as more results come in throughout the night. That portion is on par with presidential elections in 2008 and 2012.)

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/12/politics/alabama-election-latest/index.html

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59 minutes ago, frenchie said:

 

 

Neither of you followed the link.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/in_final-hour_order_court_rule.html#incart_river_home_pop

Paper ballots are kept for 22 months.

Makes sense, as if Jones wins then untold thousands of those ballots will have to have been cast by illegal undocumented emigrants.  

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40 minutes ago, Mark K said:

Makes sense, as if Jones wins then untold thousands of those ballots will have to have been cast by illegal undocumented emigrants.  

Have they bused them all the way from Massachusetts or wherever they left them after the Presidential election?

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25 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Have they bused them all the way from Massachusetts or wherever they left them after the Presidential election?

All we know for sure is the thousands that voted for Hillary and gave her the popular vote victory are still out there...somewhere... 

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Just now, Mark K said:

All we know for sure is the thousands that voted for Hillary and gave her the popular vote victory are still out there...somewhere... 

They are warehoused under a pizza shop until needed.

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1 hour ago, Clove Hitch said:

Preliminary exit poll results show stark divides based on race in the US Senate race in Alabama.

  • Nearly six in 10 voters for Democrat Doug Jones were black in these preliminary exit polls
  • Nine in 10 Moore voters were white. A slim majority of voters for Moore were white men.

(Three in 10 voters in this election are black in these initial results, a number that can change as more results come in throughout the night. That portion is on par with presidential elections in 2008 and 2012.)

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/12/politics/alabama-election-latest/index.html

Why would anybody count by race. This is 2017. Race doesnt matter. Except for MSM reporting.

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2 things...

 

1.  what the fuck did Moore's wife mean, when she says they "fellowship" with some of their jewish friends?  Doesn't "fellowship" as a verb, usually mean going to church together?  Confused.

 

2.  why did Moore ride to the polls on his horse, when he's such a horrible rider?  Is he trying to make himself look stupid?  I've ridden about 3 or 4 times, in my entire friggin life, and I guarantee you I don't look half as awkward in the saddle. 

2(b).  How the hell do you OWN a horse, and still be such a shitty rider?  I mean, if you own a horse, you must get more than 3 chances to ride in your lifetime?

 

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12 minutes ago, warbird said:

Why would anybody count by race. This is 2017. Race doesnt matter. Except for MSM reporting.

Sure seems to matter to the Republicans when they're gerrymandering or engaging in voter suppression

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11 minutes ago, warbird said:

Why would anybody count by race. This is 2017. Race doesnt matter. Except for MSM reporting.

If it didn't matter, there wouldn't be such a stark difference in the results and the exit polls would show that

For Democrats, that appears to be the case, with the difference in race voting for Jones being less than 10%. For Republicans, that isn't the case with a 40% difference.

So there is your answer. People count by race because the results show that race matters when it comes to the Republican votes.

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8 minutes ago, warbird said:

Why would anybody count by race. This is 2017. Race doesnt matter. Except for MSM reporting.

When one of the candidates says we should get rid of every amendment past the 10th? (including, presumably, the 13th?)

And then when someone asks him, "when's the last time this country was 'Great'", he answers: back when slavery was legal?

When 10% of his supporters, asked why they were supporting him instead of Jones, cite Jones' prosecution of the KKK Church bombing child murderers? 

OBVIOUSLY race still matters, ya fuckin moron.

 

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31 minutes ago, warbird said:

Why would anybody count by race. This is 2017. Race doesnt matter. Except for MSM reporting.

says the racist piece of shit, supporting the bigoted pieces of shit, who argue for bans by race, and belive races are prejudiced.

Fuck you Troll, go to Russia where you belong.

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23 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

says the racist piece of shit, supporting the bigoted pieces of shit, who argue for bans by race, and belive races are prejudiced.

Fuck you Troll, go to Russia where you belong.

That was a rather pleasant response.....

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