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J-34 IOR

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The boats are still around. I can't believe the owners haven't thrown a HISSY fit about the PHRF ratings. 

How can a boat be "well known as a PHRF dog?"  Isn't the objective of the PHRF system to rate every boat according to its performance so every  boat has an equal chance?? 

Not one person commented, "Our local PHRF committee changed the J-34 rating so it now wins around here just as often as any other boat."

So many people were asking where to find one in this thread I thought it would be a good idea to post this link to a current Craigslist ad.

it looks like you could take off the parts, sell the sails, and triple your investment 

https://austin.craigslist.org/boa/d/34-sailboat/6382800223.html

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Price seems good. They were a pretty good looking boat, though I don't recall them having any IOR success. IDK what PHRF rating is. 

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1 hour ago, RKoch said:

Price seems good. They were a pretty good looking boat, though I don't recall them having any IOR success. IDK what PHRF rating is. 

Around 120

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3 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

consolsidatte effortes an buy J35, be happey.                           :)

Sails and upkeep is going to cost the same as a J-35. But they run $20K and up in my area. $6000 for the 34 is a good price if motor is good and the boat doesn't need much work. 35 is much faster, but in a lot of PHRF fleets the 34 would be scratch boat.

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10 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Around 120

IDK how fast (or lack thereof) the 34 is. The fast 3/4 tonners nearing end of IOR were DB2s and X-boats, which rate about 111-114 in PHRF. 

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Never buy a PHRF boat with a bad rating thinking you'll be the one guy that as a successful appeal and have a cheap PHRF winning boat.  You are going to have to fully prep the boat, including bottom, foils and new string sails and then race it hard for a couple of seasons to demonstrate that the performance doesn't meet the numbers.  Then you might get a small adjustment. 

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11 hours ago, some dude said:

Get yourself a J33 and then buy the 34 for the parts

sounds good till you look at rig sizes. I'll take the 35.

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1 hour ago, Innocent Bystander said:

Never buy a PHRF boat with a bad rating thinking you'll be the one guy that as a successful appeal and have a cheap PHRF winning boat.  You are going to have to fully prep the boat, including bottom, foils and new string sails and then race it hard for a couple of seasons to demonstrate that the performance doesn't meet the numbers.  Then you might get a small adjustment. 

True, but even Rod J rates it at 114...so if you get a rating slower than that, you ought to do ok...I know it never did particularly well in IOR, but I don't see anything about it that would make it a bad PHRF boat, short of it getting rated faster than 114 or so...

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  what would DoRag suggest ???

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16 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

The boats are still around. I can't believe the owners haven't thrown a HISSY fit about the PHRF ratings. 

How can a boat be "well known as a PHRF dog?"  Isn't the objective of the PHRF system to rate every boat according to its performance so every  boat has an equal chance?? 

Not one person commented, "Our local PHRF committee changed the J-34 rating so it now wins around here just as often as any other boat."

So many people were asking where to find one in this thread I thought it would be a good idea to post this link to a current Craigslist ad.

it looks like you could take off the parts, sell the sails, and triple your investment 

https://austin.craigslist.org/boa/d/34-sailboat/6382800223.html

Great Thread How did you find that ?? B)

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I knew a very good racing sailor who was very successful in several OD classes and handicap racing on his own boats and OPB. He did very well with a J/24 and then got a deal on a J/34 IOR. He had the J/34 for a couple of years, and never could win anything with it handicap racing. The problem was not the skipper...he sold it and moved on to a larger Tripp.

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When we raced against them in the IOR days, they were always one of the slowest boats, even well sailed.  So they would have to rate slower than most to rate well enough .

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