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1 hour ago, southerncross said:

That's right.  I liked his views. I don't think he was too much of a fan of the new VOR.

Synapses kicking in, doh!  - Campbell Field is who I meant.

Jack put me right and I didn't even notice till the brain worked - Goodnight.

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Just now, rogerfal said:

Synapses kicking in, doh!  - Campbell Field is who I meant.

I knew who you meant.

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

Have a horrible feeling Sifi will be regretting not guarding the outside lane.

They will all have to gybe eventually. Vestas is ahead and to leeward. Seems like a winning position to me. 

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1 hour ago, inebriated said:

Mambo, i met you on sailx i think??

how was viper worlds in perth?

It was great I think........Ill know better when its over on Feb 23rd :)

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1 hour ago, rogerfal said:

Somebody asked about the navigator who was posting last time around.

It was Cameron Field - Kiwi of some repute as I imagine you know, living in England last I knew - maybe near Lymington.

Wonder if he is looking - am sure he'd have a worthwhile view.

Thanks Roger, it was me asking because he used to post some excellent stuff. I should have remembered at least the Field name because his father is a Whitbread legend. Looking at the picture Cambell might be busy taking his kid Oppi sailing, or perhaps making more... 

From:   http://www.yachtingworld.com/blogs/elaine-bunting/dynastic-duo-5648

""Ocean racing legend Ross Field and his son Campbell are to race round the world together

Ross and Campbell Field

After a six-minute slow spin cycle, Ross and Campbell Field’s Class 40 passed the class 180° inversion test today in Lymington, righting itself from upside down in six minutes. 

The father and son team are entering Josh Hall’s Global Ocean Race, a two-handed round the world race for Class 40s which starts from Mallorca in September.

The two come are best known for their Whitbread/Volvo Ocean Race backgrounds. Ross Field is a Whitbread legend. He raced on NZL Enterprise in the 1986/7 Whitbread, was Peter Blake’s right-hand man on the all-conquering maxi ketch Steinlager 2 in 1989/90 and won the race as skipper of Whitbread 60 Yamaha in 1993/4.

His son has kept up the family tradition: Campbell was the shore manager for the Telefonica team in the 2008/9 Volvo Ocean Race.""

As for that Global Race, IIRC they returned to Auckland when the boat began breaking up in some harsh weather on the way to Cape Horn.

 

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1 hour ago, southerncross said:

I knew who you meant.

1 hour ago, rogerfal said:

Synapses kicking in, doh!  - Campbell Field is who I meant.

 

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Campbell Field.......home to the former Atlantic League team, the Riversharks.

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18 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Am I missing something.? Isn't there well over 2000 miles to go? Scallywag predicted to win..! 

http://www.sail-world.com/news/201095/Volvo-OR--Hong-Kong-entry-likely-to-take-leg

 

 

"Of course, using a common polar for each boat assumes that each is sailed with the same level of expertise and performance, which is usually not the case even in one-designs."

"The hanging question is the accuracy of the weather feeds in six-seven days time - with the final day being potentially fraught as lighter breezes are forecast."

Would be cool though.  

Go Scally! 

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41 minutes ago, Roleur said:

They will all have to gybe eventually. Vestas is ahead and to leeward. Seems like a winning position to me. 

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So what is the key in strategy terms for Dongfeng over the next 24 hours?
It is very important for Dongfeng to no longer be east of anyone in 24 hours’ time. Now is the time to overtake everyone from their easterly and northerly position. It has to happen in the next 24-30 hours. So I am fairly optimistic. I think Vestas has the best position and will stretch away a little bit, but it is not a complete disaster and there are still plenty of miles to go.

Marcel Van Triest the Dong Feng meteorologist agrees with you.

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So Marcel, are we almost out of the Doldrums at last?
Almost…the last position report suggests that Dongfeng and Vestas 11th Hour Racing finally have the wind from the other side…but anything could still bubble up. With the Doldrums, sometimes you have to compare it to a pot of boiling water and then try to predict where the next bubble is going to form. So, yes…almost out…

Dongfeng looks quite handily placed on the northern edge of the fleet no?
Yes. I think Dongfeng will be third on this evening’s position report and probably second overnight. But then I expect Vestas to overtake everyone except Team Sun Hung Kai Scallywag, but then she will get ahead of her as well.

So being on the northern edge looks set to pay?
We shall see, but yes that is the idea. The problem is that once you are the first one into the new breeze, you have a limited time window to get back some of the miles you have invested because, eventually, everyone gets the new breeze and you are also on the outside of the curve. So you have to put the indicators on and go left towards Hong Kong and you have to get back those miles against the boats that did a shorter route. In the end everyone will end up gybing again because it will become downwind and at some stage it will no longer be an advantage to be in the east.

So what is the key in strategy terms for Dongfeng over the next 24 hours?
It is very important for Dongfeng to no longer be east of anyone in 24 hours’ time. Now is the time to overtake everyone from their easterly and northerly position. It has to happen in the next 24-30 hours. So I am fairly optimistic. I think Vestas has the best position and will stretch away a little bit, but it is not a complete disaster and there are still plenty of miles to go.

So they will be on a broad reach in the trade wind at last?
Yes it will be a reach at first which will be good if you are the northerly boat because you can try to sail a little bit lower and try to sail over the top of the other guys. But somewhere, about halfway between where they are and when they reach the northern tip of the Philippines, the breeze will become full-on downwind.

 

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So Marcel, are we almost out of the Doldrums at last?
Almost…the last position report suggests that Dongfeng and Vestas 11th Hour Racing finally have the wind from the other side…but anything could still bubble up. With the Doldrums, sometimes you have to compare it to a pot of boiling water and then try to predict where the next bubble is going to form. So, yes…almost out…

Dongfeng looks quite handily placed on the northern edge of the fleet no?
Yes. I think Dongfeng will be third on this evening’s position report and probably second overnight. But then I expect Vestas to overtake everyone except Team Sun Hung Kai Scallywag, but then she will get ahead of her as well.

So being on the northern edge looks set to pay?
We shall see, but yes that is the idea. The problem is that once you are the first one into the new breeze, you have a limited time window to get back some of the miles you have invested because, eventually, everyone gets the new breeze and you are also on the outside of the curve. So you have to put the indicators on and go left towards Hong Kong and you have to get back those miles against the boats that did a shorter route. In the end everyone will end up gybing again because it will become downwind and at some stage it will no longer be an advantage to be in the east.

So what is the key in strategy terms for Dongfeng over the next 24 hours?
It is very important for Dongfeng to no longer be east of anyone in 24 hours’ time. Now is the time to overtake everyone from their easterly and northerly position. It has to happen in the next 24-30 hours. So I am fairly optimistic. I think Vestas has the best position and will stretch away a little bit, but it is not a complete disaster and there are still plenty of miles to go.

So they will be on a broad reach in the trade wind at last?
Yes it will be a reach at first which will be good if you are the northerly boat because you can try to sail a little bit lower and try to sail over the top of the other guys. But somewhere, about halfway between where they are and when they reach the northern tip of the Philippines, the breeze will become full-on downwind.

 

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edit: sorry mambo, didn't see your post. Same idea, same time, but I was nanoseconds late.

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6 minutes ago, Varan said:

edit: sorry mambo, didn't see your post. Same idea, same time, but I was nanoseconds late.

Posted last page.

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27 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Am I missing something.? Isn't there well over 2000 miles to go? Scallywag predicted to win..! 

http://www.sail-world.com/news/201095/Volvo-OR--Hong-Kong-entry-likely-to-take-leg

 

Bit of a crappy article, Gladwell's AC stuff was usually spot on.

The Forss/Windy tracker predicts Dongfeng, Vestas and Akzo basically too close to call, like within 5nm, and Scallywag is 20-25nm behind.

The VOR/Squid tracker predicts the 3 leaders much the same, and Scallywag 55nm behind.

Not saying that Scally does not have a fighting chance, but to say they are predicted to win is simply wrong.

It would indeed be nice to see Scally win, or Akzo, or TTT for that matter, but of those Akzo has the best chance for now, if only they can beat Dongfeng and Vestas... 

Also Gladwell says VOR is using Predictwind. Don't think so, they are very much competitors of Squid. He is a truly patriotic Kiwi for sure.

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Tracker update 05.30 , Vestas seems to have had some doldrummy wind problems and sagged south and lost a bit.

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3 hours ago, Fiji Bitter said:

Ross Field is a Whitbread legend......and won the race as skipper of Whitbread 60 Yamaha in 1993/4.

Fiji your posts I must say have improved remarkably other than the odd digression so taken you off ignore and actually read them. 

Ross is a pretty tough cookie. However that article you copied is wrong. Ross came 2nd only OA but winning the inaugural W60 class, but not the race as it was a mixed class race which was bullshit. The win went to Dalton on his big ketch NZ Endevour. Whitbread should have been shot for allowing it and some maxi companions to enter but did so at the persistence largely of Dalton. 

The W60 skippers and Field in particular let Dalton know their views pre and post race. On the race course they also had the last laugh in terms of times and insisting they were in a 'completely different boat race to the Maxis. Dalton was pissed off about this. I understand some years later he finally admitted it should not have been a mixed class race, and luckily has never been since.

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BTW, 0700 tracker update out for while now, not much change except Scally is trucking 3-5 knots faster than the "lead" trio.

Might prove Gladwell after all, we'll see.

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I don't buy the "Vestas has a good position because eventually they'll have to gybe" line, by the time they do, East-West will have become ahead-behind, and I'm afraid Vestas is not going to be "ahead". They should have covered...

I hope I'm wrong.

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29 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Fiji your posts I must say have improved remarkably other than the odd digression so taken you off ignore and actually read them. 

Funni as shit isn't it?  You have to read his posts (while he is on Ignore) to see that they have improved.

"I have you on ignore"

same as

"I promise I won't come in your mouth"

Good one Jack.

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2 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Fiji your posts I must say have improved remarkably other than the odd digression so taken you off ignore and actually read them. 

Ross is a pretty tough cookie. However that article you copied is wrong. Ross came 2nd only winning the inaugural W60 class, but not the race as it was a mixed class race which was bullshit. The win went to Dalton on his big ketch NZ Endevour. Whitbread should have been shot for allowing it and some maxi companions to enter but did so at the persistence largely of Dalton. 

The W60 skippers and Field in particular let Dalton know their views pre and post race. On the race course they also had the last laugh in terms of times and insisting they were in a 'completely different boat race to the Maxis. Dalton was pissed off about this. I understand some years later he finally admitted it should not have been a mixed class race, and luckily has never been since.

Glad to hear that Jack!

Maybe we each enjoyed a bit of a shit fight, but probably not so much all the other dedicated posters. I know you are just as much a fan of this race as I am, and hell, you even one one, right? So, happy to bury the hatchet and enjoy the race and this excellent forum to the fullest.

And by all means, if you have a good reason to rip into me, please do so, it's SA after all, and we are no pussies.

Thanks for the clarification on the Dalton win. I did know that Endevour was officially quoted as the winner, and always wondered why. If the W60's finished so close behind the maxis, then they would win on handicap? Or do actually rate higher?

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34 minutes ago, random said:

"I promise I won't come in your mouth"

Good one Jack.

Randumb which dick do you intend using for this atrocity...the big one on your head or the pencil sized one in your pants?

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So Jack has Fiji on ignore, but he then Jack says "Fiji your posts I must say have improved remarkably ..."  while he has him on ignore.

Funking funni shit that.

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Mmm, hard to stay on topic ...

0700 Position Report: Wind NE 7-14kt with fleet finally racing in the direction of Hong Kong. A little more pressure in the north, resulting in @DongfengRacing being the fastest boat over the past 6hrs.

 

Dongfeng may have been the fastest boat over the past 6 hours, but for the last several hours Scallywag has been, and still is, by far the fastest, in much more wind.

Pay attention Race Perverts!

Ok then, first 3 hrs big time for Dong, last 3hrs clearly for Scally,  worth a mention methinks.

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1 hour ago, Fiji Bitter said:

If the W60's finished so close behind the maxis, then they would win on handicap? Or do actually rate higher?

It was rated but elapsed time was the decider for top dog. Dalton just beat Field by a few hours on elapsed which was pathetic for a 80' v 60'. Of the 6 legs Dalton only won 3. The other 3 were Field, Smith and Dickson in W60's. I never liked Dalton for 10 years previous. This crap sealed that deal.

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18 minutes ago, Fiji Bitter said:

but for the last several hours Scallywag has been, and still is, by far the fastest, in much more wind.

Fiji other than Witty, you and Gladwell praying to the gods, that ain't going to last. Shame though as a "come good" like the Paintwagon plus a good home town finish for Scally all helps keep this show on the road for editions beyond this.

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6 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

home town finish for Scally all helps keep this show on the road for editions beyond this.

Just like F1 team mates being told to stick to the script.

Chinese Volvo Owner: "I like for Dong Feng to fickish first in race to Hong Kong"

Volvo Race Team: "Ok so do we split the bonus pool differently to make that happen?"

Chinese Volvo Owner: "I like for Dong Feng to fickish first in race to Hong Kong"

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15 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

It was rated but elapsed time was the decider for top dog. Dalton just beat Field by around 10 hours on elapsed which was pathetic for a 80' v 60'. Of the 6 legs Dalton only one 3. The other 3 were Field, Smith and Dickson in W60's. I never liked Dalton for 10 years previous. This crap sealed that deal.

That's indeed utterly ridiculous!

The Race had always been decided on handicap, that was the Whitbread Race winner, and never the fastest/biggest boat.

 Ok , we consider it a win for Yamaha and Ross Field then, Congrats Ross!    Eh, and sorry Grunter (Dalton/Grumpy), only 1 win for you then... (and an AC win, ok ok).

 

 

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Woke up, saw this, thought you’d enjoy the  wit

cheers, looking forward to ketchup in my morning.

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8 hours ago, jbc said:

I remember when we figured out that in the really light, floppy stuff (which we raced in a lot where I grew up) a teency headsail (preferably a lightweight one, so it had a chance of assuming a decent shape) was way better than a maximum-LP overlapping drifter. The big sail would just flop back and forth as the boat rolled, pushing into the shrouds and never really generating any drive. Meanwhile the itty-bitty version (tall and narrow, ideally) would fill out quickly and give you a little push before the next wave came along and messed it up.

It didn't have enough sail area to give you much of a push, but it was something. And if you were deft about it those somethings would add up, give you some relative wind, and the rich would get richer.

 

Sounds almost like a windseeker? My favorite sail maybe, next to the jib top. Specialist sails that can make the difference in a race :) also a little staysail could do the trick....

i love sailing in light wind, cause you really need skills and patience. Any idiot can sail in wind. 

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47 minutes ago, NORBowGirl said:

 

i love sailing in light wind, cause you really need skills and patience. Any idiot can sail in wind. 

I may have the wrong guy but I am pretty sure it was Lawrie Smith who said "Any damn fool can make a boat go fast when there is a lot of wind" and he is sooo right

SS

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6 minutes ago, shanghaisailor said:

I may have the wrong guy but I am pretty sure it was Lawrie Smith who said "Any damn fool can make a boat go fast when there is a lot of wind" and he is sooo right

SS

Up to a point.....

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2 hours ago, Fiji Bitter said:

The Race had always been decided on handicap, that was the Whitbread Race winner, and never the fastest/biggest boat.

Fiji actually no for the top silverware ..was always elapsed aggregate leg time before leg scoring started post 94 and which edition I don't recall from my huge font of RTW race knowledge. 

Now what did I have for breakfast this morning is what has me fucked? 

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1 hour ago, shanghaisailor said:

I may have the wrong guy but I am pretty sure it was Lawrie Smith who said "Any damn fool can make a boat go fast when there is a lot of wind" and he is sooo right

SS

Lawrie looked at the apparent displays to light a cigarette in one pull of the lighter...he hated going two pulls..if steering he bore off. The good old days of RTW.

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10 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Have a horrible feeling Sifi will be regretting not guarding the outside lane.

Based on the video that was posted, it looks like they got peeled off to the West by a cloud and v11 was leading and had to go west while the others got the chance to go behind the cloud.  Heartbreaking.   Actually I take that back.  Given the mine field of reefs they are all heading for we could have a real heartbreaker if they aren’t careful.  I think the maviguessers have their hands full right now and the lead pack are going to have to squeeze together again.

 

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9 hours ago, Roleur said:

They will all have to gybe eventually. Vestas is ahead and to leeward. Seems like a winning position to me. 

Can you send us what your smokin...leeward and you say better placed to gybe...and when will that be this side of the finish pray tell? Intrigued.

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Report from OBR Brian Carlin onboard Turn the Tide on Plastic:

It's been a dark morning - going backward, the fleet sailed away in pressure last night - no wind... then finally at 21:02 UTC the wind just formed from the east - like waving a magic wand… 

Regrettably I think it’s all a little too late for us at this point as the leaders have at least a 70nm lead. I'm pretty sad about it, we worked so hard to keep the lead and in two scheds and one bad cloud, we lose it all!! 

Somehow I don’t think it’s fair at all - especially on how hard this crew has worked the boat to keep motivation up to an all-time high. Even in the face of the losses, this crew that Dee has built [are] somewhat a little disappointed but more happy than sad!

How do you create a crew environment like this? she's a genius, I’m trying my best not to show my disbelief on how it all went to s**** in 8hrs.. Mapfre and Brunel i'm sure are equally on the same page as I am too.. WTF...

At least we have wind now, which means it’s going to be a little cooler, no more sleeping in the bow with 5 others - no more sleeping on top of food bags, clothes and sails! a small amount of personal space has finally been delivered back to us... thank the heavens for a little breeze...

Laters,

Brian

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Latest from OBR Amory Ross onboard Vestas 11th Hour Racing:

Lat/Long: 3.109N / 159.509E
Wind: 9.25 kts
Air Temp: 29c
Sea Temp: 31c
Boatspeed: 12 kts
Heading: 313-degrees

This boat feels about two tons lighter today with the unbearable weight of the Doldrums blown free from the deck by a perfect 10-knot easterly. It’s like another world, a world that is, dare I say - survivable? I really don’t know how much more of that heat we could have taken without totally losing our minds. But of course, now that the pain and suffering is behind us, in typical Volvo Ocean Race fashion it’s time to reflect on the [terrible] privilege of our [tortuous] time we were [un]lucky enough to spend there:

As miserable as four days of windless 40-plus degree temps (104+ for all of the people back home) and 33-degree (91) water can be on the mind and body, the Doldrums are a special part of this world. It is extremely remote and there’s a unique quality to sailing through there that I have always found intriguing; like it’s stuck in time and at any moment some lost square rigger from the age of trade may appear on the horizon begging for fresh water and a way out.

It is also unburdened from human interference; we haven’t seen another boat or even a plane overhead in what seems like weeks. The deep blue ocean seems healthy and full of life. At night the warm water glows with abundant bioluminescence. Daytime brings feeding frenzies full of rare whales, sharks, birds, and fish. Nights are still and clear like no place I have ever seen - until they’re not - a stormy tempest of dense lightning and clouds that appear to be so high they touch space. I hate it but I also think I love it. It doesn’t pay much mind to seasons and no matter how unstable the rest of the world may be, the Doldrums remain the same. Stably unstable I guess. I dunno, maybe I did lose my mind…

Anyway. We’re free of the shackles and leading the charge to the NE tradewinds that will hurtle us west towards Hong Kong. AkzoNobel and Dongfeng are close as they were all yesterday. The three of us have steady winds while it doesn’t look like the rest of the fleet to the south is out of the woods just yet. From here on out options are limited and with a building breeze it will quickly become a test of boatspeed. Speed of any kind is a welcome change, so all smiles onboard Vestas 11th Hour!

Amo

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Latest from navigator Libby Greenhalgh onboard Sun Hung Kai / Scallywag:

Hi all

Thank your lucky stars

As we crossed the equator yesterday and initiated the Polywogs to life at sea, King Neptune has since shown us fair winds and fair game to make a big leap up the leaderboard this leg correspondingly so the mood is light.

Overnight we still had sub 10kt which generally means there is a bow party. As we stared at the the clear skies and discussed our astrological knowledge (fairly limited) it never fails to amaze me how many stars there are (a lot of them are dead already), how small this world really is, the cool stuff that is out there.  

A satellite whizzed overhead at mach ten and then us northern hemisphere dwellers on the boat started to recognise more of the stars and so the different names come out. Iron pot, saucepan, big bear some I am sure we lost in the dutch-english attempted translation. 

Along with this came the shooting stars. Inevitably at sea you will always see some due to the lack of light pollution yet at home they are a real treat, it is moments like these that you realise how special this race is.

We finally really turned a corner and are heading to the finish, the miles are going down and the speed is going up and for us in a more than positive way as our westerly position is now paying off. We took our cloud of doom early and made a huge loss, having only just gained back on the fleet and now the tables have turned and we can feel their pain as after each sched they lose miles. 

There have been some absolute MONSTER clouds out here and we have been carefully monitoring the Sat pics to make sure we make the best job we can of weaving through them, but a lot of positioning was decided days before without you really realising.. 

There are still more to come and the next 24 hours could still see some serious snakes and ladders.

P.S. pushing hard for arriving on the 19th L Bell before you head back to the UK.

Libby at the nav station

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Update from OBR Sam Greenfield - navigator Jules Salter recaps the last 12 hours onboard team AkzoNobel:

12 hours ago, so yesterday evening, we finally found some wind and what we think was the last of the doldrums area. Vestas made a bit of a jump to 12nm ahead and we were pretty close with Dongfeng, but they were further east. 

We went through a few clouds, did a good manoeuvre with the J1 in a bit of a squall and came out within 2 or 3nm of Dongfeng. Vestas still had that jump of 12nm on us. And since this morning we had a good period with some big clouds and some rain, but also 15-18 knots of wind so we made some good miles. 

It’s been all about hanging onto Dongfeng though they’ve just escaped from us in the last 2 hours. We’re in 10-15 knot East to Northeast trade winds at the moment. We’re 100nm away from the first of the Micronesian Islands, so we’ll have to thread our way through those. It depends on what kind of wind and cloud action we get as we go through there – still a lot of cloud around and big differences in wind speed so we’re very light at the moment. 10 knots, which is not so good, and hopefully we’ll get a bit more breeze later on today.

I go up on deck to take a look and see that Dongfeng has gotten smaller on the horizon. The helmsmen and sailors on deck are tense, throwing around words like ‘bad mode’. They’re not in a good place. I go back down below and ask Jules about it.

It’s kind of inevitable sometimes if you haven’t got enough drivers and trimmers, and we’re struggling to sail in a straight line a bit.

You have to stay positive that you can get them back. There was a funny bit of cloud and wake, and they managed to slip away through that period. But you always hope that we can catch them back up again.

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Update from skipper Bouwe Bekking onboard Team Brunel:

Looking back it is always easy to see where you make mistakes and unfortunately yesterday we made one which could have been avoided, by just being very conservative.

We had overtaken Mapfre and TTT after working hard all day and evening and finally we reached steady breeze of 8-10 knots from the direction we expected, the long waited trade winds... but how different it came.  

We got hit by a big rain squall and the wind headed and increased to 20 knots, and we were about 30 degrees off our course. Normally you ride a squall like that out as they last for about 15-20 minutes then the wind turns back to the normal direction and you carry on, saving two sail changes.  

I saw on the AIS that Mapfre were sailing a slightly higher course, but losing distance. Spoke to Capey if we should go to a smaller sail, but agreed we carry on. 

HOW WRONG THAT WAS. When the squall was over the wind disappeared completely. The two other boats saw us parking up and apparently still had some breeze and they started sailing much higher. Mapfre we could see on AIS doing 2-4 knots while we were going 1-1.5 knots. Not a lot of difference as it looks like, but that is more than 100% faster. We did it in the next 6 hours 10 miles, while they did the double distance. Worse to come, they picked up the new and constant breeze first and got even further away. 

Of course I was kicking myself internally all night long, but then it important not to show too much emotion and to keep motivating the crew, which is actually not a problem. They keep working hard, understanding s*^t is happening. But of course very frustrating to know that also Scallywag, 60 miles to leeward of us, kept the breeze and sailed straight through without stopping. 

2,900 miles to go, it will be very difficult to get back to the leaders as they always sail in more breeze and will keep extending, but let’s start with the with the closest boat first : target is TTT.

Cheers,

Bouwe

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Charlie stating he spent much time (not a surprise) looking at the other boats sail selection, trimming and outrigger set-up/ use. Esp outrigger in the forward position when applied to the J0 & J1. - Seemed to indicate the team were particularly focused on the outriggers in the earlier legs so maybe inferring they are happy they are in the zone now compared to the beginning.

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The doldrums has finally left behind, but "the head of the fleet with @Vestas11thHour @DongfengRacing and @teamAkzoNobel has escaped" says Xabi Fernández "so we will try to go for 4th of the @scallywaghk in the 2,800-mile missing up to #Hongkong".

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Just now, southerncross said:

The doldrums has finally left behind, but "the head of the fleet with @Vestas11thHour @DongfengRacing and @teamAkzoNobel has escaped" says Xabi Fernández "so we will try to go for 4th of the @scallywaghk in the 2,800-mile missing up to #Hongkong".

Pragmatic and a good attitude given their circumstance methinks.

Plenty to play out yet with the races with the race.

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2 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Fuck Runkle you are an info work horse..hats off to you.

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Fuck Runkle you are an info work horse..hats off to you.

Why thanks, Jack/Roger.  I just post what I come across.  The Runkle got old a while ago though, don't ya think.   

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2 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

You are always Runkle to me..it fits like a glove. :-)

Ah there's love and affection....

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

You are always Runkle to me..it fits. :-)

A short bald guy fits?  Explain.  I never understood it from the beginning.

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Bit of a thread drift.

I look at the demanding regiemes that pro sportspeople have to endure to make a living, the vast majority outside the stars are a long way from the top, a mediocre living by many standards outside the 3rd World and even then for just a relatively short career earning time span. Sailing is a joke compared to other pro sports where income earned per day in many sports exceeds annual incomes for the best in the sailing world. Look at what those we are watching endure.

So I appreciate there are arguments for and against scantily-clad models, hostesses and cheerleaders at sporting events but this complaint on their behalf borders on insane. No thought to the people putting on the show, some rich some not so rich, some hurting more than them and who afterall indirectly employs these girls. 

Get a grip world...this Weinstein generated sort of shit is now getting fuckin rediculous.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-13/barcelona-open-courtside-models-win-sexual-discrimination-fight/9327056

 

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7 minutes ago, southerncross said:

A short bald guy fits?  Explain.  I never understood it from the beginning.

I saw an intelligent, uninhibited medium height guy who shaved his head and got laid...well occasionally! I don't care if you want to be taller??

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11 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

I saw an intelligent, uninhibited medium height guy who shaved his head and got laid...well occasionally! I don't care if you want to be taller??

You have strange fantasies. 

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7 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Leo and only a short 180 years ago..we haven't been moving around this planet for that long when you think about it. We can now watch people do it on our phones.

I like the navionics layer, islands I never heard of. My fav is blub blub island.

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Probably a better way but you can highlight then right click on the text then paste and then right click and paste the photo like this.

Got to be a quicker/ easier way though?

Update from on board, 1343 UTC. We are finally in the trade winds. Breeze is up to a steady 15 knots and we're making 15-20 knots SOG. Lots of sounds. Water rushing below and over the deck. The mainsheet being grinded in and eased. Much better than the quietness of the doldrums.DTbYyDXXUAAgFCx.jpg:large

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Easiest way is to copy the Twitter generated link from the faint small dropdown  "v" on each tweet

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paste the generated link, and depending on your platform, the forum software takes care of it (I usually have to choose the "paste as plain text" link at the bottom of this reply box to embed).

 

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5 hours ago, NORBowGirl said:

Any idiot can sail in wind. 

Well, that's true, especially sideways. The hard bit is going fast, forward.

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2 hours ago, southerncross said:

The doldrums has finally left behind, but "the head of the fleet with @Vestas11thHour @DongfengRacing and @teamAkzoNobel has escaped" says Xabi Fernández "so we will try to go for 4th of the @scallywaghk in the 2,800-mile missing up to #Hongkong".

No matter the outcome I'll always respect Xabi as a leader. Recovers. Ideitifies the facts at play and gets on with it. No skipper by the bow alone moaning to the camera. 

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1 hour ago, mad said:

You have strange fantasies. 

Don’t want to spoil it for him but I’m 6’1” with a full head of hair.

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7 minutes ago, Miffy said:

No matter the outcome I'll always respect Xabi as a leader. Recovers. Ideitifies the facts at play and gets on with it. No skipper by the bow alone moaning to the camera. 

Bouwe and Dee are like this.

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They are not as contained methinks though maybe that's just about language and media..........

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54 minutes ago, stief said:

Easiest way is to copy the Twitter generated link from the faint small dropdown  "v" on each tweet

paste the generated link, and depending on your platform, the forum software takes care of it (I usually have to choose the "paste as plain text" link at the bottom of this reply box to embed).

I've tried the "V" thing, but only the link showed up.
"paste as plain text" - This is it! Thanks a lot!!!

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26 minutes ago, Rennmaus said:

I've tried the "V" thing, but only the link showed up.
"paste as plain text" - This is it! Thanks a lot!!!

On the race experts tweet page click on the light (not dark) shaded area alongside the tweet which will open the whole thing.

Then click on the drop down "copy link to tweet" and then paste as plain text and you get the whole thing.

Give it a moment to do it's thing.

Give it a go.

Thanks Stief - you got us on the track.

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In the last 48 hours MAPFRE has gone from being almost level-pegging with Dongfeng to nearly 100 miles behind in terms of distance to the finish of this leg at Hong Kong.

An interesting fly in the ointment is Team Sun Hung Kai Scallywag, Dave Witt’s boat that is based in Hong Kong and whose skipper is desperate to try and win this leg at all costs.

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