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California fire: Resident says neighborhood looks like 'war zone'

By Nicole Chavez, CNN 
Updated 1:47 PM EST, Sun December 17, 2017
Story highlights
  • Thomas Fire is the third-largest wildfire in California history
  • It has burned 269,000 acres and is still growing

(CNN)Jeannette Frescas was not concerned about the Thomas Fire until the massive blaze reached her neighborhood in Ventura, California.

"At midnight, I woke up with a flashlight in my face," Frescas told CNN affiliate KEYT. "I looked out my window and there were flames that were like, a hundred feet, all around us."

Like many residents, Frescas was caught off guard by the fire that has roared across Southern California for 13 days. She's one of tens of thousands of residents who piled into cars and fled as ferocious winds drove the third-largest blaze in modern state history through Ventura and Santa Barbara counties.


"What was once a paradise was like a war zone," Frescas said of her apartment complex, which was destroyed by the blaze. "It's the scariest thing I've been through in my entire life."

Ventura resident Patricia Rye woke up to her son-in-law pounding on her door. She didn't get a chance to pack any valuables, and fled her home of 17 years in the dead of the night.

"I didn't have time to take anything," Rye told the affiliate. "My wallet, or any of my personal things. I literally left with the clothes on my back. If I had been thinking I would have got into my car, but I wasn't thinking so my car was there."

Thousands of Santa Barbara residents threatened by the blaze are under mandatory and voluntary evacuations while others like Frescas were allowed back in their homes or what was left of them.

The fire is so massive that more than 8,400 firefighters are working around the clock to save lives and contain it. It's bigger in acreage than New York City, and has turned neighborhoods to piles of soot and concrete as it churns through the area.


Latest developments


 Cause of death: Firefighter Cory David Iverson, 32, died of "thermal injuries and smoke inhalation," according to autopsy results from the Ventura County medical examiner's office. A funeral procession was underway Sunday for Iverson, who lost his life battling the Thomas Fire on Thursday. A total of two people have been killed since the fire started.

• Hefty price tag: About $110 million has been spent fighting the massive blaze, fire officials said. It was 40% contained Saturday night.

 Improving weather conditions: Santa Ana winds did not immediately materialize on Sunday morning, though firefighters had been expecting the worst. Red-flag warnings were in effect for a large swath of Southern California through late Sunday, with wind gusts of up to 55 mph expected overnight, according to CNN meteorologist Gene Norman.

 In the record books: The Thomas Fire, which grew by 1,500 acres overnight, has charred 269,000 acres and is 40% contained. It is now the third-largest wildfire in modern California history and the seventh-most destructive in structure loss.






Twelve thousand people were evacuated in Santa Barbara County, with animals at the local zoo threatened as well. Santa Barbara Zoo closed Saturday and many animals were placed into cages in case of possible evacuations, zoo officials said.


Only the endangered California condors and griffon vultures were taken to the Los Angeles Zoo, according to officials. The zoo had kept most animals indoors, away from smoke.

Oprah Winfrey, who has a home in Montecito, one of the areas under evacuation orders, tweeted about the fire Saturday.

"Still praying for our little town," she said. "Winds picked up this morning creating a perfect storm of bad for firefighters," she said.


Meanwhile, residents who had evacuated their homes in Ventura County -- where the fire began -- were allowed to return Saturday.

Jim Holden considers himself lucky that firefighters saved his home and items.

"They put a water screen between my house and the house next door that was burning in an attempt to save it, but they didn't think they were going to be successful," he told CNN affiliate KABC."They broke in and they saved my family photos and my computer, and things that they thought would be important to me."

CNN's Joe Sutton and Miguel Marquez contributed to this report.

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Killed working the Thomas Fire. Cause of Death smoke inhalation and thermal burns. Sounds like he was overrun by the fire. Report pending. Rest easy brother, we'll take care of your family. 


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Public Safety

Lilac Fire Local Assistance Center to Close Tuesday

LAC Assistance
By Gig Conaughton, County of San Diego Communications OfficeDec. 18, 2017 | 4:00 PMDec. 18, 2017 | 4:05 PM

The County of San Diego plans to close the Local Assistance Center at the Vista Library at 6 p.m. Tuesday, but will continue to run its email and Recovery Assistance Hotline, at (858) 495-5200. The Vista library will also continue to offer tables with brochures and information.

The center opened last week to help those impacted by the Lilac fire. Numerous County departments, state agencies and volunteer organizations helped 269 households start their recovery processes at the center from the day it opened Monday, Dec. 11 through 6 p.m. Saturday.

The assistance center was designed to make starting the recovery process as easy as possible for people. The library was filled with as many County departments, state departments, volunteer groups and organizations as possible to help people who lost homes, parts of homes, or had to deal with evacuating their properties and animals during the Lilac fire.

Some of the services County departments offered people included: information about their homes, properties and permits; connection to crisis counseling; CalFresh (food stamp) cards; first aid; free pet food and help with animals; information about property tax relief; short-term housing referrals; and copies of vital records.

People could also get copies of driver’s licenses and identification from the state Department of Motor Vehicles; and case management and help from the American Red Cross and San Diego VOAD (Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster).

The County’s Department of Planning and Development Services issued 36 permits while the center was open. Thirty four of those were Emergency Temporary Occupancy Permits, which allow people to put trailers or other temporary living accommodations on their property while they rebuild.

The County’s Board of Supervisors voted last week to waive fees for building permits and plan checks for Lilac fire survivors.

The County’s Recovery Assistance Hotline will operate Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. After hours, people can leave messages, which will be returned within 24 hours.

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Livestream: Mourners gather at Celebration of Life for San Diego firefighter Cory Iverson

By Mark Saunders | Updated Dec. 23, 2017, 7:13 a.m. PST

SAN DIEGO (KGTV) - Friends and family will mourn fallen Cal Fire San Diego engineer Cory Iverson at a Celebration of Life event Saturday.



Loved ones and colleagues of Iverson will gather at a private event at The Rock Church in Point Loma at 10 a.m. to commemorate the fallen firefighter.

Iverson, 32, was killed last week while battling the Thomas Fire in Santa Barbara County, where he was on the front lines in a particularly active part of the blaze in the Fillmore area. He died of thermal injuries and smoke inhalation.

Livestream of Celebration of Life for Cory Iverson:

In addition to loved ones and fellow firefighters, California Gov. Jerry Brown is set to attend the Celebration of Life.




Iverson worked as a Cal Fire San Diego unit apparatus engineer, after joining in 2009. He's been described by his peers as a man who will be missed dearly.

"He’s a great young man, somebody who really loved his job," Cal Fire Chief Tony Mecham said following Iverson's death. Mecham added that Iverson's death had "shaken our organization to the core."

RELATED: San Diego firefighters hold boot drive to support Cory Iverson's family



Cal Fire Local 2881 President Mike Lopez issued a statement, praising Iverson as a hero and loving family man.

"As colleagues and as human beings we grieve for this young man with such a bright future and the young family that will now go forward without a loving husband and father. We pray that they will always understand that Cory was a hero and, because of him, our communities are safe and people are able to sleep knowing that the dangerous calls get answered by someone," Lopez said.

RELATED: Cause of death released for Cal Fire San Diego engineer killed in Thomas Fire

Tommy Rupert, a high school friend of Iverson's, told 10News the firefighter was someone you couldn't forget.



"Hopefully [his family] can look back and know who their dad was because he was a hero. He really was," Rupert said.

RELATED: Procession to bring Cal Fire San Diego engineer killed in Thomas Fire home

Iverson is survived by his wife, Ashley, and two-year-old daughter. His wife is currently expecting a second daughter this spring.

A GoFundMe account set up to help the Iverson family has raised more than half a million dollars in just over a week. Firefighters from around the county also held a boot drive this week to collect funds for Iverson's family, raising about $185,000.



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1 hour ago, SailBlueH2O said:


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And Not to be forgot as the Bitter Kold Takes the Headlines


California's largest ever fire was a force that could not be stopped

Remnants of a burned down home from the Thomas fire in Ventura. (Marcus Yam / Los Angeles Times)

The fire left the mountains ghostly gray, vast slopes frozen still but for dust devils wandering the ash.

Fire crews were conducting a last big operation in the high country, burning a ridge above Hartman Ranch to keep the main fire from mushrooming into a road-less wilderness where condors soar.

The Thomas fire had already torn through disparate points of Southern California — beach enclaves, orange groves, rural canyons, golf retreats and suburban cul-de-sacs. Flames ignited fan palms against the Pacific surf and cedars on high granite peaks.

Residents along the flame front had seen fires come out of the mountains many times before — at horse ranches in Ojai, at farmworker camps in Fillmore, at Tuscan estates in stands of olive trees in Montecito.

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But never had they all been threatened by a single fire.

The Thomas fire became California’s largest by size since modern recordkeeping began, standing at over 281,900 acres as of Friday. It raced from the urban edge to deep into the Los Padres National Forest like no fire before it, covering huge distances unobstructed and mostly unseen. The neighborhoods and cities that sit at the foot of these steep ranges — the Santa Ynez, Topatopa, Sierra Madre — had no vantage to the immense wilderness beyond the first ridge or two, no real grasp of what was seething out of sight.

VENTURA, CALIF. — TUESDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2017: A chimney is all that stands after a fire burned down
A chimney is all that stands after being consumed by the Thomas fire in Ventura. (Marcus Yam / Los Angeles Times)

When the fire came over those ridges again and again, to eat homes across a 55-mile swath of civilization, they had to confront that buried seed of doom that Californians forever try to forget: We settled in a dangerously temperamental land.

While we have fought to subdue its mood swings with human ingenuity — canals, levies, dams, injection wells, seismic retrofits, debris basins, brush clearance, tile roofs, hotshot crews, air drops — our efforts are feeble compared to what has and will come.


At the beginning of the year, following a devastating five years of drought, California was having the wettest rainy season ever recorded. The spillways of the mighty Oroville Dam were failing, part of the Central Valley had become an inland sea, and a quarter-mile stretch of Highway 1 was about to fall into the Pacific.

“We broke the drought with a sledgehammer,” said Jeffrey Mount, a hydrologist and senior fellow at the Public Policy Institute of California.

But just enough precipitation came as snow, with the storms spaced out over the season, to avoid a major calamity. “By all objective measures, we should have had catastrophic flooding,” Mount said. “We would be talking billions of dollars of damage and how many people died.”

A long scorching summer followed. In June, Death Valley hit 127 degrees, seven degrees shy of the hottest temperature recorded on earth. The melting snowpack caused flooding in the arid valleys below.

Under a sun that didn’t relent from spring through fall, grass and brush withered.

By October, the wine country erupted in the most destructive firestorm in state history, killing 44 people and claiming over 10,000 homes. Rains stayed far to the north. A high-pressure ridge formed like the one that started the drought in 2011, making this December one of the driest on record.

And so came the Thomas fire, primed to break another record.

VENTURA,CA --FRIDAY, DECEMBER 29, 2017--Raul Gamino and his wife Yolanda, are photographed at their
Of the 63 homes on Via Ondulando, 32 burned to the ground. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

When a high-pressure whorl moves east across Nevada and Utah, Santa Ana winds flow from the high desert to the ocean through three main grooves: the Banning Pass from the Coachella Valley, the Cajon Pass from the Victorville area and the Santa Clara River from the Antelope Valley.

In December, that swirling high-pressure dome stalled and wobbled in place. Bill Patzert, climatologist for NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, likened it to Hurricane Harvey parking over Houston, swamping the city with days of torrential rains.

In Ventura County, the Santa Clara River Valley became a katabatic wind tunnel for two weeks. The spinning blob of pressure, shifting back and forth, changed the direction of the air flow as it fought with the prevailing sea breeze, constantly pushing the fire into new territory.

What was previously California’s largest modern-era blaze, the Cedar fire in San Diego County in 2003, followed a more typical Santa Ana pattern, racing to the coast through canyons running roughly westward.

It was far more deadly and costly than the Thomas because the gentle tilt of San Diego County invited more development into the fire zone. The Cedar’s toll was 15 people and 2,820 structures.

The Thomas fire has claimed 1,063 structures and one firefighter’s life. The terrain it consumed is more rugged, most of it protected or prohibitively steep to build on.

The population center hit the hardest, Ventura, was on the low edge of the foothills — vulnerable, but easy to evacuate. Homes that burned were less than a mile from the relative safety of the flat Santa Clara River Valley and the coast. No one died there.

Among the streets worst hit: Via Ondulando, a typical postwar street of ranch and Spanish homes, diamond grid windows, lush front lawns, birds of paradise, baby blue plumbago, Italian cypress.

Raul Gamino, a retired car salesman, had lived on the street for 42 years and used to hike in the hills above his home with his grandchildren. But he never gave much thought to how those dry-grass hills connected to the mountains beyond, how fire from far away could whip across it in his sleep. He never imagined a fire that would cover 440 square miles, as the Thomas would. His thoughts generally followed the view, the green coastal plain to Point Mugu and the Pacific.

Over the years, Gamino, 75, had watched countless hours of news reports on flames in Montecito or Santa Barbara. Those disasters seemed distant to him, way up the coast, the way a Lawndale or Culver City resident might watch a blaze in Malibu. He could smell the smoke, ponder the ash and the strange orange light. But they lived in fire country; he did not, he thought.

On Dec. 4, when a friend told him fire was burning up the valley in Santa Paula, he said, “Ah, it never gets here. It never happened before. I’ve been in Ventura for 53 years.”

That night, embers machine-gunned southwest down a boot heel of eroded ravines known as Sulphur Mountain.

As the sky lit up orange, he and his wife Yolanda fled with just a pillow and blankets. They slept in their SUV in a Walmart parking lot.

The fire followed the hills to the heart of downtown Ventura, burning right up to the back of City Hall, before that finger was stopped by flatter terrain and firefighting.

The Gaminos drove back up their hill three days later. In spots, the gutters had become adorned by the braided sculptures of melted alloy rims, wildfire’s ubiquitous signature on the urban edge.

Of 63 homes on the street, 32 burned to the ground. The Gaminos’ yellow stucco-and-tile house survived, as if nothing had happened at all. The lawn was still green. Their king palms luffed in the breeze. Yolanda cried out of relief and sadness and pure shock. He was calm, a perpetual optimist.

Their neighbor across the street, Debbie, a retired teacher who was giving Yolanda English lessons, lost her home. Only the book exchange box on the curb survived.

She and Raul had moved in the same year. They had both lost spouses to cancer. The death of Gamino’s first wife taught him that property didn’t mean much.

“The only thing that is important is your life. We worry too much about property,” he said.

But the scope of personal loss on a street like this is as hard to fathom as is the scale of the fire itself.

On Via Ondulando, you can see hints of it.

Debbie’s book box.

The old meticulously kept Rambler with whitewall tires, scorched in a driveway.

The silence of a ruined home but for the handmade tin windmills still clanging and spinning in the wind. The melted children’s swings.

The bowls of dog and cat food left in the driveway out of desperation.

VENTURA,CA --FRIDAY, DECEMBER 29, 2017--Raul Gamino and his wife Yolanda, are photographed at their
Raul Gamino and his wife Yolanda, at their east Ventura home that survived the Thomas Fire. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

By the time the Gaminos returned, the wind had turned northwest and pushed the fire deep into the mountains, at times shifting to the north and northeast. The air parched throats and cracked lips and chapped the chaparral that already hadn’t had water for nearly 10 months.

“The constant was the dryness,” said Patzert, the climatologist.

The most worrisome finger of the conflagration crawled west along the Santa Ynez into the territory of another fearsome downslope wind, the local sundowner, which hits just after sunset as interior temperatures in the valleys drop fast. For over a week, crews bulldozed and hand-cut lines along the ridge to keep the sundowners from driving the fire straight into Montecito, to limited success.

Now the fire’s prolonged tour came to some of the wealthiest real estate in the world, dragging castle owners into the collective experience of modest suburbanites, avocado growers, beach shack dwellers, crop pickers and back-to-the-landers.

On Dec. 20, strong sundowners were predicted, this time threatening Santa Barbara.

On Via Ondulando in Ventura, the fire had passed and the Gaminos went about their routine — drove to the local L.A. Fitness for a Zumba class, raked the avocado leaves in the side yard. But their street was a ruin.

On East Camino Cielo, 3,600 feet above Santa Barbara, fire crews shored up lines on the ridge. The fire was skunking now, as they say, smoldering in the fallen leaf duff. It needed a hard wind to bring it back up to flame.

But as the sun sank over San Miguel Island, the wind rustled up only a few heavy gusts — the last gasps of the Thomas, as far as the threat to humans and property went.

Deep in the Los Padres National Forest, the fight was to protect the wilderness now. Firefighters had driven an hour up Highway 33 from Ojai, through a landscape so charred that only the raw rock along road cuts showed color, an almost incandescent yellow against the gray.

At the Hartman Ranch, they were trying to create a space void of fuel to keep the fire from running north into thick vegetation, then spreading east into the Sespe Wilderness or west into the footprint of the Zaca fire, which burned 240,000 acres in 2007. No one was quite sure if the chaparral there had grown back enough to burn again. And if it burned twice in such short succession, would it ever recover?

Such were the questions of the new fire era.

All the top five wildfires in California by size have occurred since 2003. It is a cliche by now for commanders at every big fire to say they have never seen “anything like this.”

But Kevin Chargois, an engine captain from San Bernardino National Forest overseeing the back-burn, had to deal with conditions he says he honestly never encountered during regular fire seasons. For one, at 4,500 feet in December, his hoses and valves kept freezing at night. The crews had to wait for them to thaw in the morning to use.

“Here we are, a few days before Christmas, 16 days of fire, and 15 have been red-flag warnings for Santa Anas,” he said.

As he spoke the air was getting moist, and the backfire was not taking off like they wanted it to.

They brought out a flame-throwing terra torch to blaze it up. But the weather kept getting colder and more humid — bad for their backfire effort, but good to dampen the main fire.

Their prescribed burn was petering out. An onshore wind picked up.

Suddenly, they were quickly packing up the trucks to get out while they could.

It was snowing.

The Gaminos’ yellow stucco-and-tile house survived, as if nothing had happened at all. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)



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Now, Mon-Wed weather is predicted to be a major storm dropping 3+ inches in the burn area. That is not good news.....I’m sure very little if any rehab has been done yet. Mudslides are almost a certainty......

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1 hour ago, Point Break said:

Now, Mon-Wed weather is predicted to be a major storm dropping 3+ inches in the burn area. That is not good news.....I’m sure very little if any rehab has been done yet. Mudslides are almost a certainty......

that 3" of rain won't likely soak in more than 1/8"

But Cut away Dirt like a Knife

Would suck to have yer house spared of fire only to have it slide down a hill or have a hill slide over it

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Green Sheet (Preliminary Report) on the entrapment fatality on the Thomas Fire. Another fatality working mid slope........sigh.


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It ain;t over when the fires are out.............nice save by SB County FD of a 14 year old girl trapped in a home absolutely destroyed by a mudslide/debris flow.

WFD boys...............WFD.



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NoDAGO we barely got licked compared to the Thomas fire and far less rain too

BUT that doesn't mean it isn't a Mess around these parts


Public Safety

Board Continues Local Emergency Proclamation for Lilac Fire

Volunteers remove ash and debris from homes burned in the Lilac Fire.
Volunteers remove ash and debris from homes burned in the Lilac Fire.
By Yvette Urrea Moe, County of San Diego Communications OfficeJan. 9, 2018 | 2:43 PM

The County Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday to continue the county-wide local emergency proclamation for the Lilac Fire due to ongoing debris and erosion control tasks as well as cost recovery efforts from state and federal agencies.

A month after the fire, County officials also updated the Board on the progress of those efforts.

The Lilac Fire began in the Bonsall area on Dec. 7 during extreme Santa Ana conditions. Supervisors ratified a proclamation of local emergency on Dec. 11.

During a presentation Tuesday, County recovery manager Amy Harbert said 113 homes were destroyed and 55 others were damaged. Two business structures were destroyed and another five damaged. Additionally, 90 other out buildings, sheds, or barns were destroyed and 18 damaged. On public property, 200 acres of brush burned in County parks.

As of Jan. 9, the projected costs to the County for Lilac Fire response and cleanup is estimated to be $3.9 million, said Holly Crawford, director of the County Office of Emergency Services. The final overall cost of the fire has not yet been calculated due to the ongoing work with cleanup and erosion control.

Crawford said that about half of that cost may be eligible for reimbursement through a federal Fire Management Assistance Grant. The grant reimburses eligible local governments for up to 75 percent of fire response costs.

The County is also requesting additional state and federal reimbursement assistance that would cover efforts beyond the initial response for erosion control, repairing damaged roads and infrastructure, debris removal, cleanup of facilities and other government costs.

Crawford noted that the Federal Emergency Management Agency did not make direct assistance to fire survivors available, but the County’s Recovery Team is working with voluntary organizations to try to assist individuals with debris removal and other services.

The County opened a Local Assistance Center for residents just four days after the fire began and more than 269 households visited the center during the nine days it was open. The center was staffed by 30 service providers including County, state and federal agencies, and Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster. Many of the people served had lost their homes or had their home damaged by smoke.

Crawford said the San Diego Foundation has received a little over $300,000 in donations to fund Lilac Fire Recovery which will be directed to those organizations helping Lilac Fire survivors.

Harbert said the website has been available for residents since the fire began with information and resources related to recovery and rebuilding efforts. The County also has a dedicated recovery hotline and email address for unincorporated county residents affected by the fire.

Additionally, Harbert said, the County has assigned individual liaisons to each homeowner who lost their home to help them navigate the recovery and rebuilding process.

To date, the County Department of Environmental Health has overseen the removal of over 14,500 pounds of household hazardous waste. It has also offered a one-day household hazardous waste collection event and placed disposal bins in the communities to help fire survivors with ash and debris removal. Additionally, to date, 62 of the 113 destroyed homes have been cleaned of ash and debris or are in the process of this cleanup.

The County has opened an Erosion Control Assistance Center to help private property owners by giving out free sandbags, gravel bags and fiber rolls.

Harbert said County Public Works has repaired 1,300 feet of guardrail damaged by the fire along Old Highway 395, replaced 15 road signs and posts that were damaged, and removed 15 trees that fell in public areas.

Harbert told supervisors there are fire survivors still working with their insurance companies, private contractors or volunteer groups to clean up ash and debris, and that the County will continue to work with the community through the recovery process.

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I've got a good buddy from Santa Barbara that has his sister in law in the hospital and her twin daughters missing in a slide.

This just sucks.

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1 minute ago, pbd said:

I've got a good buddy from Santa Barbara that has his sister in law in the hospital and her twin daughters missing in a slide.

This just sucks.

That’s awful. I’m sorry.

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1 hour ago, pbd said:

I've got a good buddy from Santa Barbara that has his sister in law in the hospital and her twin daughters missing in a slide.

This just sucks.


1 hour ago, Point Break said:

That’s awful. I’m sorry.


harder to remain positive each day after the last .....

people can say we are having a huge impact on the Earth

But in the Bigger picture of NATURE we don't even count anymore than the things we have built

Hope the Kids turn up OK

in some ways this is worse than the Fire

Perhaps after the fact ya sudda known ahead of time

But this doesn't creep up from miles away

All is Good Till It's NOT

"IF" you are on top of a mountain of Solid Rock the Mud won't get ya

Lightning ?????

No Place else to hide !!

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43 minutes ago, Point Break said:

Latest count. Over 100 homes destroyed, many more damaged. 17 dead and still around 13 missing. Awful......

sounds like a bunch of people checked in as OK

SAR spokesperson this morning said numbers of dead could go 3 digits

Could is a Stupid was to say I have No Fucking Idea - let's hope for the Best !!

In a perfect world Opra lost all ambitions to run for POTUS 

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On 1/9/2018 at 7:53 PM, pbd said:

I've got a good buddy from Santa Barbara that has his sister in law in the hospital and her twin daughters missing in a slide.

This just sucks.

One daughter dead, one in ICU suffering multiple coronary events and a step daughter still missing

Hug your kids as tight as you can.

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Thomas Fire now 100% contained at 281,893 much misery. Fortunate I'm retired....after a while you just can't see those things anymore.


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3 hours ago, Point Break said:

Thomas Fire now 100% contained at 281,893 much misery. Fortunate I'm retired....after a while you just can't see those things anymore.


you mean that fucking fire is still going 

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Nothing in the Head-Lines about the fire anymore :(


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I hear Nothing on the fire

has it been 100% out gor a while ?

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