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One of the advantages of a yawl over a ketch is, the mizzen is usually stepped outside the cockpit, and nearly always aft of the cockpit sole. Seems that would be an intrusion on the Swan. I like the boat though, I'd try to live with it. It needs it's kick-ass for speed! :)

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53 minutes ago, slug zitski said:

It is a bit busy with a mast in the cockpit...but there are some advatages.   i sailed a sparkman and stevens ketch for few years...that mizzen allowed a beautiful sun awning that protected the helmsman , yet didnt interfere with sail handling and cockpit crew movements. 

Good place for antennae , radar and whatnot

when boomed out downwind the mizzen boom performed Perfectly as a outrigger for dragging fish lures outside the  disturbed water of the  wake

in rolley seas that mizzen could be sheeted in hard  to temper the roll period.

on a close reach the boat hauled ass. 

in regatta  mode , upwind downwind , we sailed bald of mizzen sails for a rating advantage

i liked that boat 



You liked a Swan 65?

Ya think?

One of the most beautiful boats ever built. Legendary.

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On 1/6/2018 at 3:06 PM, SloopJonB said:

No "might be" about it - that boat is what started the Swan reputation. I imagine it would perform right on par with a Tartan 41 but with way more class.

I'm puzzled about the Yawl comments though - I only see any sign of a mizzen in one pic.


I think 99% came from the factory as sloops. Many had/have soft decks behind the mast. 

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