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IDK if they started at 9. Wind at my house is 8-10, no gustier than 12.

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Yes, I was just checking FB and they did get off at 9. Not seeing tracker updates yet.

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22 minutes ago, DaveK said:

Where on facebook???

 

It was a post of the Watertribe FB page. And the tracker is showing them on the water.

Tracker hint: Randy Smyth (SewSew) isn't listed in the EC2018 tracker, he's listed in the UF2018 (Ultimate Florida) tracker.

its difficult to follow as the boats update at different times, but it appears Spawn is in 2nd behind Randy. A couple multis and a couple Coresounds close behind. Leaders should be in Gulf now. Fast ride down coast. Entering Stump Pass at 1-2pm?

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3 minutes ago, smokeandoakum said:

I assume all competitors must check-in at the checkpoints?  I.e. they can't just start and go all the way to the finish?

 

 

Yes. They must sign in at each check point. 

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Spawns tracker finally updated. They're off Longboat Pass doing just under 13kn. A couple miles ahead are a Tornado and Hobie Tiger doing just over 14kn. I assume Randy is well out in front. The second place monohull  appears to be the Coresound 20 Dawn Patrol , many miles behind.

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Leaders are probably closer than I first estimated.

At 1055, Randy (SewSew) was at 27.37 Lat, doing 10.7 kn.  At 1045,  the Toronado (Swamp Monkey) was at 27.41 Lat doing 14.35 kn. The Hobie Tiger alongside them. At 1032, Spawn (Two Beers) was at 27.43 Lat doing 12.62 kn. As near as I can roughly calculate, they're all nearly tied.

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Behind Spawn is several more multis, inc my buddies on Moko Jumbie just ahead of Arch Angel on the custom tri. 2nd monohull is Dawn Patrol (Dances With Sandy Bottom/SOS) about 6 miles behind Spawn. At 1116 they were at Lat 27.45 doing 8kn.

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There's another tracker update in a few minutes. Right now, the order appears to be:

SewSew (custom tri),

Scrappy (Hobie Tiger), Spawn (custom 22' monohull), Swamp Monkey (Toronado) all in a pretty close cluster.

Moko Jumbie (Prindle 19)

Archangle (custom tri),

Seadog Rocket (Nacra Inter 20).

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Leaders are south of Big Pass. About 22 miles to Stump Pass where they enter the ICW to CP1.

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Tracker is a mess ATM, as some boats haven't pinged in a while. 

Best guess: SewSew is probably a bit south of Venice. I think Swamp Monkey may be in 2nd, they haven't pinged in 2 hrs. Spawn 3rd, Scrappy 4th. That group of 3 are probably still close together, a bit north of Venice.

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4 hours ago, SailBlueH2O said:

Fred Bremen said they started at 9...I had to leave Bean Point...would have been a awesome spot to watch them go by....

That is a name that I had not heard in a long time.   Bremen Sails made some of my first high performance wave sails for windsurfing back in the early 80s.

- Stumbling

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47 minutes ago, RKoch said:

Tracker is a mess ATM, as some boats haven't pinged in a while. 

Best guess: SewSew is probably a bit south of Venice. I think Swamp Monkey may be in 2nd, they haven't pinged in 2 hrs. Spawn 3rd, Scrappy 4th. That group of 3 are probably still close together, a bit north of Venice.

Thank you, RKoch for the close tracking of the race.   I have been following at work the posts here, as well as anything else I can glean from the Interwebs.   I check in and am able to catch up on where they are from your posts.   Its a lot easier than either the Watertribe tracker or the RaceOwl.

- Stumbling

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Randy entered Stump Pass at about 225. Pic from FB.

 

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34 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

What is the team name for the electric boat ? 

Rocking Baby. They're the only class 6 entry afaik 

Edit , there's a second entry called Weed Warrior

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12 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

Long time friend ...his brother Tommy is sailing in the Dovkie...team name Halfbaked...I've know them since the 60's

Bremen was THE Optimist sail in the late 60s.

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Among class 4, Spawn leads Dawn Patrol by 12+ miles, a good 2 hours. SAist Zero the Hero sits about 11th of 18, but he may pick off a boat or two that's taking the ICW

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RKoch, do you think they will sneak over the bar and run around the north side of the point in the swash channel to get in Stump Pass or beat up the main channel in?

- Stumbling

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3 minutes ago, stumblingthunder said:

RKoch, do you think they will sneak over the bar and run around the north side of the point in the swash channel to get in Stump Pass or beat up the main channel in?

- Stumbling

They did take the swash channel, and about wiped out. Mr Moon posted video.

Scrappy entered the pass second, about 30 minutes behind Randy. Spawn was about 2 minutes behind Scrappy (Hobie Tiger F-18)

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6 minutes ago, stumblingthunder said:

I take it that Spawn has taken the monohull record to checkpoint 1 today?

- Stumbling

I don't think there's a record for that, except boats finishing the Ultra Marathon at CP1. They did beat their 2016 time by a couple hours. Averaged about 10 knots...I doubt any monohull has done it quicker. The Tornado is in, about 20 minutes behind Spawn. 

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5 minutes ago, MisterMoon said:

@RKoch please reach out to me on FB. 

My FB messenger doesn't work, I'll hit you on your page.

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So psyched for my fellow sailing trimaran pal Mark Zollitsch - Archangel - for getting to 1st checkpoint within an hour or so of the other double handers in class 5. Of course Randy is in a league all to himself aboard SewSew! Stay the course Mark and continued safe passage aboard Lil Osprey!

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6 minutes ago, trimejust4fun said:

So psyched for my fellow sailing trimaran pal Mark Zollitsch - Archangel - for getting to 1st checkpoint within an hour or so of the other double handers in class 5. Of course Randy is in a league all to himself aboard SewSew! Stay the course Mark and continued safe passage aboard Lil Osprey!

Yes, he's doing well. Right in the middle of some very light and fast beach cats. Tonight's the tough part...if he's able to keep pushing he may catch the tide window at Chocko.

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10 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

Why does Sew Sew/synergy not show up on the list of challengers or on the tracker ?....he should have ideal conditions tonight...good breeze smoother water and a HUGE moon~~~~~actually it will be great conditions for all...

You have to switch tracker event to "UF2018". He's doing the Ultimate Florida Challenge.

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Does anyone know if SewSew actually portaged/slipped under the Boca Grande Causeway? His Race owl track looks like he is taking the shortest distance !

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19 minutes ago, RKoch said:

Yes, he's doing well. Right in the middle of some very light and fast beach cats. Tonight's the tough part...if he's able to keep pushing he may catch the tide window at Chocko.

 Yea, whole different ball game going solo eh? Seems as if he was regrouping a bit at the checkpoint as it doesn't look as if he has move on yet! I see he is back under way! Appreciate all of your local knowledge :)

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1 minute ago, trimejust4fun said:

 Yea, whole different ball game going solo eh? Seems as if he was regrouping a bit at the checkpoint as it doesn't look as if he has move on yet! Appreciate all of your local knowledge :)

It looks like several are taking/took a long rest or minor repairs. Solo is tough, double-handed is much better but still not easy. If Archangel makes it to Key Largo that's quite a feat. Crossing Florida Bay is usually slow and frustrating.

 

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The bad news for Randy is that low tide at Choko is 1042 tonight, about the time he arrives. He'll be against the tide the whole way in. Spawn and the boats near them should have incoming tide all the way, and be at CP2  before high tide at 346 am. 

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4 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

how long is that Choko leg each way?....so Randy could have a foul tide in and out ?.....

Is that to say that as the tide ebbs the water is flowing in a SE to NW direction up the coast and as it floods it is flowing the opposite. Can't really fathom navigating the Everglades!

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45 minutes ago, RKoch said:

It looks like several are taking/took a long rest or minor repairs. Solo is tough, double-handed is much better but still not easy. If Archangel makes it to Key Largo that's quite a feat. Crossing Florida Bay is usually slow and frustrating.

 

Archangel (Mark) has no desire to cross Florida Bay. I've read so many interesting stories about that crossing and have talked at length to Smyth about how he does it... at night. But Mark told me he wanted to play it safe unless there was good west wind. The "bomb" storm on the east coast is sliding south so he will for sure go outside. I guess it's the safer route.

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17 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

how long is that Choko leg each way?....so Randy could have a foul tide in and out ?.....

It depends whether you enter Choko Bay at the north end or at Indian Key Pass. It's about 6 miles in, about 3 out Rabbitt Key Pass which is very shallow with oyster bars. Yea, Randy might catch it at the worst window.

Spawn went out Gasparilla Pass and is booking it south of Boca Grande Pass at 11.16 kn. Seadog Rocket (Nacra 9.5 kn) and Scrappy (Hobie Tiger 10.5 kn) are in vicinity.

Sambasailor (Coresound 17) caught Dawn Patrol (Coresound 20) and they're going in Stump Pass to CP1 now. I think they are 2nd and 3rd class 4 boats.

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13 minutes ago, trimejust4fun said:

Is that to say that as the tide ebbs the water is flowing in a SE to NW direction up the coast and as it floods it is flowing the opposite. Can't really fathom navigating the Everglades!

Ebb tide flows out the Thousand islands, generally SW direction. Flood the opposite. Down in Fla Bay the tide flows on and off the flats, direction varies. Wind has a big influence, a strong easterly just blows the water out towards the west no matter the tide.

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Randy is off the south tip of Pine Island, about to reenter Gulf, doing 13+. Spawn in 2nd, in Gulf abeam of Sanibel doing 12+. Moko Jumbie moved into 3rd, just ahead of Archangel, with Swamp Monkee tailing. They're all in the Gulf, doing about 9.5. Seadog Rocket is heading down Pine Is Sound, doing 8 kn. Scrappy appears to have stopped back at Boca Grande Pass, tracker issue, maybe?

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Andyman was the first finisher in the UltraMarathon which finishes at CP1. He was solo in a Sea Pearl 21. Averaged 6+ knots! From same YC as Spawn and Moko Jumbie.

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5 hours ago, RKoch said:

They did take the swash channel, and about wiped out. Mr Moon posted video.

Scrappy entered the pass second, about 30 minutes behind Randy. Spawn was about 2 minutes behind Scrappy (Hobie Tiger F-18)

That was a wild jibe on a wave!

The swash channel was blue-green and distinct when we went out it at around noon. It had clouded up some when we went out it to meet Sew Sew. It was downright scary when we went out it to meet the Hobie Tiger and Spawn. Completely clouded up so you couldn't tell where it was shallow until a wave broke. We took a couple over the bow and one over the stern out there. Steep and nasty!

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Tried to juggle the UF tracker and EC tracker, and the different ping times. As near as I can tell Spawn and Randy are about the same latitude, with Spawn about 12 miles further offshore. Rough guess, Spawn is about 3-4 miles behind. It's going to be a horse race.

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Hmmm...might be an issue. Randy's last 2 pings 10 min apart both showed less than 1kn speed. Distance barely changed. I don't think it's a tracker glitch. Possible boat problem? Worth keeping an eye on. Spawn is still trucking offshore at 10 knots. If last pings are correct, they are even with Randy. Moko Jumbie is leading the trailing pack, but Seadog Rocket may come out of Pine Is Sound in good shape. 

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Damn tracker hasn't updated Randy or Spawn in over an hour. Grrrr....

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24 minutes ago, ~HHN92~ said:

From the last track it looks like Spawn is leading with Moko Jumbie not too far behind? 

Neither Randy or Spawn has been pinged by tracker in over 2 hours. IDK what's up. Randy doesn't appear on EC tracker b/c he's in UF tracker. The rest of the boats are tracking, Moko J is in 3rd....Swamp Monkee gaining. I'm guessing Spawn is south of Naples with Randy a bit ahead. 

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And now that I posted that, Spawn finally pinged. They're off Naples, about 8.4 miles ahead of Moko. Spawn-4.5 kn, Moko 7.1 kn. breeze may be getting patchy. Randy still hasn't pinged since 8:25

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No ping from Randy in 3 hours. IDK where he is. Swamp Monkee is hauling ass,11kn, and has overhauled Moko J for 3rd. They look to be 4 or 5 miles behind Spawn, I can't get a handle on Spawn's speed. I think the sailors may miss the tide window at Choko...gonna be ugly.

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As of about 11:15,

Randy is somewhere out front. Vicinity of Marcos Is as a wild guess. Spawn is 2nd, doing 8.4, about 5 miles ahead of Swamp Monkee doing 12.5. Mojo J is a couple miles behind SM, doing about 8. Archangel is 5th and starting to lag behind, doing 6.5. No one else is close. DWSB/SOS in the Coresound 20 are picking off boats that stopped, they're still in Pine Is Sound though. About 45 boats have cleared through CP1.

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Sounds like Randy is out. Word just went out on FB looking for somebody to pick him up at the Ft Myers CG station.

Swamp Monkee got by Spawn to be new leader, IDK why Spawn is off the pace.

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Moko Jumbie got by Spawn to pick up 2nd. IDK why Spawn is slow...rudder issues? hypothermia?  Swamp Monkee is well offshore, taking Cape Romano really wide. I think Moko and Spawn are likely to take Caxambas Pass to cut the corner, and may pick up a lot of ground on Swampie. None of them will make the tide window at Choko, so it will be settled there.

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1 hour ago, RKoch said:

Sounds like Randy is out. Word just went out on FB looking for somebody to pick him up at the Ft Myers CG station.

Swamp Monkee got by Spawn to be new leader, IDK why Spawn is off the pace.

Sorry to hear Randy broke the boat.   Glad he was picked up safely.

NOAA forecast is 10-15 out of the N-NE, but real time wind is showing 5-7kts in the same direction.   I'm not surprised that Spawn is being passed by cats, but given the pressure (wind) they are experiencing, they are moving well.   Wind will probably come back up after sunrise, as well as boat speed.

- Stumbling

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Yes. Moko is leading Spawn in the Pass. From there to CP2 they are nearly even distance as Swampie, and might have a better wind angle. The three of them will have a slugfest into Choko Bay against the tide. And the last couple miles is really shallow and gooey mud.

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8 minutes ago, stumblingthunder said:

Sor

Sorry to hear Randy broke the boat.   Glad he was picked up safely.

NOAA forecast is 10-15 out of the N-NE, but real time wind is showing 5-7kts in the same direction.   I'm not surprised that Spawn is being passed by cats, but given the pressure (wind) they are experiencing, they are moving well.   Wind will probably come back up after sunrise, as well as boat speed.

- Stumbling

Spawn beat both those guys to CP1 handily, and had an 8-10 mile lead on them earlier this evening. Something is up...maybe a rudder issue or hypothermia?

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1 minute ago, RKoch said:

Spawn beat both those guys to CP1 handily, and had an 8-10 mile lead on them earlier this evening. Something is up...maybe a rudder issue or hypothermia?

Very possible, or lost/broke a component to the spin gear.

We will learn in the next few hours when they get in at Choco.   Back to the office.   I will be lurking.

- Stumbling

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Spawn got back by Moko in the winding channel inside the pass.  Swampie is actually south of the checkpoint, they'll have to go close hauled to get there. IDK why they passed Cape Romano so wide...they're way outside the shoals.  Spawn and Moko should have a beam reach most of the way. They are all about 15 mi from the CP.

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Spawn has stopped at an island...I think they're repairing something.

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Swampie appears to have really fucked up. They missed Indian Key Pass into Choko Bay. They have to sail 15 mi at 65 deg to get there. Moko J has to sail 12 mi at 115 deg to get there.

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Moko has entered Indian Key Pass. They might get in before the max ebb, but they'll still have to make dozens of tacks. Swamp Monkee was so far south they couldn't lay it, they're beating upwind from several miles out just to get there. Spawn is back underway, they might get there ahead of Swampie. 

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I saw that Spawn is moving.   Given how long they were on the beach, I am leaning much more towards your theory of rudder damage.    I don't know if they carry a a spare blade or rudder assembly, but that would be the estimated time I would think it would take to swap the rudders with each other.   I bet that the Stump Pass run damaged the port rudder, and this being one long port tack, probably showed signs of letting go between Naples and Marco, thus taking the foot off the accelerator.   RKoch, do you know if they carry a spare rudder/blade, besides what is mounted on the transom?

Swampy is just sailing off the edge of the Earth.  I would not be surprised if it is either a waypoint whoopsie or that the Naviguesser has astral projected to another planet.   I have not detected that they have changed to upwind mode to get to Choco.

 

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From FB:

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If there's anybody that can pick up SewSew at the Ft. FatGrifter Coast Guard station please private message me.

Apparently someone is already going to get him. The comments say only that he is OK and the boat is "unknown."

(Slightly edited due to SA filter)

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I know what this is: ridiculously overpowered. And FAST.

I managed to get two pictures. I thought I had plenty of time to get in his way but he blew by quickly. Pursuing him into the breakers at his speed was out of the question. Took a wave over the stern learning that one.

SpawnStump.jpg

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Hobie Tiger approaching Stump Pass. He went wide into the main channel and it was darn rough out there and Spawn was heading toward the inside swash channel so I didn't have time or inclination to get all that close.

HobieTigerStump.jpg

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25 minutes ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

Someone's going to have to tell me who/what this is.

BluSpinStump.jpg

Swampmonkee and Chainsaw’s Tornado. 

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1 hour ago, stumblingthunder said:

I saw that Spawn is moving.   Given how long they were on the beach, I am leaning much more towards your theory of rudder damage.    I don't know if they carry a a spare blade or rudder assembly, but that would be the estimated time I would think it would take to swap the rudders with each other.   I bet that the Stump Pass run damaged the port rudder, and this being one long port tack, probably showed signs of letting go between Naples and Marco, thus taking the foot off the accelerator.   RKoch, do you know if they carry a spare rudder/blade, besides what is mounted on the transom?

Swampy is just sailing off the edge of the Earth.  I would not be surprised if it is either a waypoint whoopsie or that the Naviguesser has astral projected to another planet.   I have not detected that they have changed to upwind mode to get to Choco.

 

I was standing right there at stump when they came through. I’m pretty sure they didn’t hit anything.  

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When we got to Stump Pass yesterday about an hour before Randy came through, there was a bit of a swell running but was reasonably smooth. By the time folks started coming in the wind had shifted NW and built a little bit  and it got pretty rough. I was glad not to be on Toms boat offshore. 

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8 minutes ago, MisterMoon said:

When we got to Stump Pass yesterday about an hour before Randy came through, there was a bit of a swell running but was reasonably smooth. By the time folks started coming in the wind had shifted NW and built a little bit  and it got pretty rough. I was glad not to be on Toms boat offshore. 

Hee hee. Smart man. My wife was wishing to be on shore. I was surprised by how ugly it got. We had time to go watch more boats in the Gulf but went fishing instead. One undersized redfish and a tiny snook. Beats capsizing our boat in the pass!

Here's Sew Sew just before he turned into the Stump Pass main channel. My wife shot a good video which is on FB now but I don't feel like putting it on Vimeo right now.

SynergyOutsideStump.jpg

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21 minutes ago, MisterMoon said:

I was standing right there at stump when they came through. I’m pretty sure they didn’t hit anything.  

Those not on FB are missing out. Moon's video shows Spawn almost losing it just a few feet off the beach. Yikes.

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5 minutes ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

Those not on FB are missing out. Moon's video shows Spawn almost losing it just a few feet off the beach. Yikes.

What is the page? I have searched but have not found this.

 

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5 minutes ago, ~HHN92~ said:

What is the page? I have searched but have not found this.

 

I put it on the watertribe fb this morning. It had been on my personal page only before then. 

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6 minutes ago, ~HHN92~ said:

Link? I have looked up all combo's water tribe and EC 2018.

I sent you a friend request. 

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The WaterTribe always seems to bring interesting weather.

For weeks we've had the same weather every day: lows in the 60's, highs near 90, some flavor of E wind or other.

40 degrees and blowing out of the N right now. I didn't bring my orchids inside because, you know, it's March! Some won't be happy.

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7 minutes ago, MisterMoon said:

I sent you a friend request. 

Thanks, good vid. Looks like a hiking stick has broken.

edit: saw pics of Moko at Chokoloski posted a few minutes ago.

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Wizard's latest magic trick is a great one. He made JF Bedard's River of Grass look HUGE! Swiped from FB.

WizardRoG.jpg

Edit for those who don't follow this stuff: that would have been taken shortly after the start. The yellow things are inflatable rollers used to push the boat off the beach. Presumably, Wizard simply levitated his boat into the water.

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1 minute ago, SailBlueH2O said:

What is the long pole looking thing hanging over the transom ?

Probably the tiller extension for the stbd side.

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I keep getting a runtime error on the tracking map! Anyone else having this problem?

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I got it to work. It appears my guy, Archangel, is the solo lead boat just behind swampmonkee. They are approaching Everglades City. Is that CP2?

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From Spawn's SPOT tracker it looks like they may be spending some time there, possibly repairs?

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