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Shootist Jeff

Trump calls out Pakistan

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In the "About fucking time" category!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42536209

Trump attacks Pakistan 'deceit' in first tweet of the year

Certainly not the most diplomatic of messages, but its about time we called a spade a spade.  The Pakis have been fucking us around for years now and they needed to be called out on their fuckery.  Hundreds if not thousands of US service and civilian people are dead as a direct result of their sliminess and two-faced positions.  The fact that we didn't swat them on the nose after the Bin Laden raid when it was clear they were harboring him right next to their military academy still pisses me off to no end.  Fuck those lying cunts!  I'm more than happy to let them be Jhyna's or Russia's problem.

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2 minutes ago, Shootist Jeff said:

In the "About fucking time" category!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42536209

Trump attacks Pakistan 'deceit' in first tweet of the year

Certainly not the most diplomatic of messages, but its about time we called a spade a spade.  The Pakis have been fucking us around for years now and they needed to be called out on their fuckery.  Hundreds if not thousands of US service and civilian people are dead as a direct result of their sliminess and two-faced positions.  The fact that we didn't swat them on the nose after the Bin Laden raid when it was clear they were harboring him right next to their military academy still pisses me off to no end.  Fuck those lying cunts!  I'm more than happy to let them be Jhyna's or Russia's problem.

Um Jeff, in some parts of the world, the term "Paki" is considered deeply racist and offensive.

Just thought you should know that.

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So anyway, It warms my heart that the Pakis are going apeshit over this.  Excellent, they need their panties bunched up a bit.

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I gotta say I don't have a lot of sympathy for Pakistan. How the fuck did OBL manage to build that fort of his a couple of miles from a major Paki military installation and live there for years with no-one knowing about it?

Gonna be interesting to see how India reacts to this.

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13 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

In the "About fucking time" category!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42536209

Trump attacks Pakistan 'deceit' in first tweet of the year

Certainly not the most diplomatic of messages, but its about time we called a spade a spade.  The Pakis have been fucking us around for years now and they needed to be called out on their fuckery.  Hundreds if not thousands of US service and civilian people are dead as a direct result of their sliminess and two-faced positions.  The fact that we didn't swat them on the nose after the Bin Laden raid when it was clear they were harboring him right next to their military academy still pisses me off to no end.  Fuck those lying cunts!  I'm more than happy to let them be Jhyna's or Russia's problem.

Kind of like Israel finding Hitler living in Eastport in 1949 :rolleyes:

* Eastport is a 15 minute walk from the Naval Academy

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57 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said:

 

* Eastport is a 15 minute walk from the Naval Academy

But 2000 miles away ideologically! 

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15 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

In the "About fucking time" category!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42536209

Trump attacks Pakistan 'deceit' in first tweet of the year

Certainly not the most diplomatic of messages, but its about time we called a spade a spade.  The Pakis have been fucking us around for years now and they needed to be called out on their fuckery.  Hundreds if not thousands of US service and civilian people are dead as a direct result of their sliminess and two-faced positions.  The fact that we didn't swat them on the nose after the Bin Laden raid when it was clear they were harboring him right next to their military academy still pisses me off to no end.  Fuck those lying cunts!  I'm more than happy to let them be Jhyna's or Russia's problem.

It's been done. 

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 "It's like that old story - you can't keep snakes in your backyard and expect them only to bite your neighbours. Eventually those snakes are going to turn on whoever has them in the backyard," 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/snakes-in-your-backyard-wont-bite-only-neighbours-hillary-to-pak-573412

 

 The two problems: One, the Pakis view that as their only means of exerting any measure of control in Afghanistan, and two, the Paki military uses our whining about it as evidence the US is a bad actor, due to the history of them losing about 10,000 guys fighting the mountain tribes, but we do nothing but complain they "aren't doing enough", which they constantly message to the Paki public. 

 

 It's a tricky bidness. 

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4 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I gotta say I don't have a lot of sympathy for Pakistan. How the fuck did OBL manage to build that fort of his a couple of miles from a major Paki military installation and live there for years with no-one knowing about it?

Gonna be interesting to see how India reacts to this.

Somewhere there is a Pakistani official that is living large off the $25 mil bounty on OBL...  the whole "Zero Dark Thirty" thing... a rouse.  Made for a good movie though!

 

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 hope they know what they're doing.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/pakistans-imran-khan-calls-for-retaliation-after-trump-ignorant-insults-20180105-h0ech0.html

Pakistan's Imran Khan calls for retaliation after Trump's 'ignorant' insults

 
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Islamabad: Pakistani Opposition Leader Imran Khan, a former cricket star tipped as the next prime minister, said it was time for Pakistan to "delink" from the United states and run down American diplomatic and intelligence presence in the country. 

It comes as Pakistani Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif said the United States was behaving towards his country as "a friend who always betrays" after Washington suspended aid and President Donald Trump accused Islamabad of lies and deceit over many years.

  • Former cricketer, now Pakistan's Opposition Leader Imran Khan, centre, said Trump was "ignorant and ungrateful" after ...
Former cricketer, now Pakistan's Opposition Leader Imran Khan, centre, said Trump was "ignorant and ungrateful" after the US leader accused Pakistan of harbouring terrorists. Photo: B.K.BANGASH

Washington accuses Pakistan of playing a "double game" by assisting Afghan Taliban and Haqqani network militants causing chaos in Afghanistan. Islamabad denies this and accuses the US of disrespecting its vast sacrifices - casualties have numbered in the tens of thousands - in fighting terrorism.

Anti-American sentiment and tense US-Pakistan ties are some way off their recent nadir in 2011, when Osama bin Laden was killed in a secret US raid inside Pakistan, but the harsh rhetoric is likely to make it harder to mend future ties.

"The US behaviour is neither that of an ally nor of a friend," Asif told local Capital TV. "It is a friend who always betrays."

 

Small groups of students chanting "Death to America" and "Death to Trump" burnt American flags and torched photos of Trump after Friday prayers in capital Islamabad and the eastern city of Lahore. The organised protests ended swiftly.

Worsening ties may push Pakistan further into the arms of long-time ally China, which backed Islamabad after the fallout from Trump's tweet. Beijing's diplomatic and financial support has also strengthened Pakistan's hand, analysts say.

You DO Know who Imran Khan is don't ya ?
In a nutshell Imran Khan is indisputably the greatest cricketer to emerge from Pakistan, and arguably the world's second-best allrounder after Garry Sobers. He took a mediocre side and transformed them into world-beaters, leading them to the World Cup title in 1992.
Image result for imran khan cricketer He Was the hottest man in the wirld :D

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Does anyone with any sense think that Trump could identify Pakistan on a map?  100:1.  Would he know what continent?  10:1.

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5 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

Does anyone with any sense think that Trump could identify Pakistan on a map?  100:1.  Would he know what continent?  10:1.

It's right next to Nambia.

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7 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

I have to start being less subtle.

You earned a belly laugh from me.  Don't change.

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But seriously..if Khan wins the election next year and the USA think they can play games with and insult Pakistan under HIS leadership There might be a real shake up in Asia.

Khan is a pacifist, popularist , You'd certainly call him a socialist , anti military, wants to make peace with the Taliban (I think) actually negotiate with India..and no body's puppet...and he is enormously popular..the USA won't know what's hit them.

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Other than Mark, not a single one of you swinging dicks has bothered to even comment on the veracity of trump's statement.  For someone who habitually lies, this is the one time he speaks the truth and none of you can even recognize it.  Do any of you idiots actually think that the Pakis are not playing a double game?  That they are not a den of two-faced snakes?  That they want to have their cake and eat it too?  

In the early days, I could understand the real politik of looking the other way while the pakis played their Game of Thrones because we had bigger fish to fry at the time right after 9/11.  And it was hoped that over time, we could build trust and bring the pakis around through aid and cooperation.  But this has gone on for so long and they are directly responsible for many thousands of our people being dead.  The fact that they harbored OBL and his AQ network from the very start is unforgivable.  And it is common knowledge that the Paki's routinely tipped off AQ and Taliban militants whenever the US would alert Paki officials about an impending drone strike.  Which is why we eventually just stopped telling them ahead of time.

Seriously, fuck them and the goat they rode in on!

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14 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

But seriously..if Khan wins the election next year and the USA think they can play games with and insult Pakistan under HIS leadership There might be a real shake up in Asia.

Khan is a pacifist, popularist , You'd certainly call him a socialist , anti military, wants to make peace with the Taliban (I think) actually negotiate with India..and no body's puppet...and he is enormously popular..the USA won't know what's hit them.

WTF would we care?  Who cares if they get in bed with the Chinese or the Soviets?  I think they will quickly find out the US was a far better friend than either of those will ever be.  I think we need to throw all in with India just to teak the pakis' feathers.  The US-Paki relationship has become untenable and its time to cut our losses.  

And yes I realize that means that we would lose a significant logistics pipeline for Afghanistan.  So be it.  Time to leave there too.  I'm happy for the pakis to inherit that shithouse too.  Let it be their problem.  Once the full weight of that hits them, the pakis will come begging the US for help once they realize their rabies ridden pitbulls (Haqqanis and other groups) they've tried to keep on a leash turns and bites them instead.  

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10 minutes ago, Shootist Jeff said:

Once the full weight of that hits them, the pakis will come begging the US for help once they realize their rabies ridden pitbulls (Haqqanis and other groups) they've tried to keep on a leash turns and bites them instead.  

Hmm..you're too used to the old Pakistani leaders. Imran Khan is quite different. I don't think he'd beg for anything..OTOH he'll probably get assassinated before his first term is out...He's a bit of a dreamer.

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45 minutes ago, Shootist Jeff said:

Other than Mark, not a single one of you swinging dicks has bothered to even comment on the veracity of trump's statement.  For someone who habitually lies, this is the one time he speaks the truth and none of you can even recognize it.  Do any of you idiots actually think that the Pakis are not playing a double game?  That they are not a den of two-faced snakes?  That they want to have their cake and eat it too?  

In the early days, I could understand the real politik of looking the other way while the pakis played their Game of Thrones because we had bigger fish to fry at the time right after 9/11.  And it was hoped that over time, we could build trust and bring the pakis around through aid and cooperation.  But this has gone on for so long and they are directly responsible for many thousands of our people being dead.  The fact that they harbored OBL and his AQ network from the very start is unforgivable.  And it is common knowledge that the Paki's routinely tipped off AQ and Taliban militants whenever the US would alert Paki officials about an impending drone strike.  Which is why we eventually just stopped telling them ahead of time.

Seriously, fuck them and the goat they rode in on!

Looks like you approve selling out your brothers in the Intel community. Typical.

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8 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

Looks like you approve selling out your brothers in the Intel community. Typical.

How do you figure that?

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4 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

Other than Mark, not a single one of you swinging dicks has bothered to even comment on the veracity of trump's statement.  For someone who habitually lies, this is the one time he speaks the truth and none of you can even recognize it.  Do any of you idiots actually think that the Pakis are not playing a double game?  That they are not a den of two-faced snakes?  That they want to have their cake and eat it too?  

In the early days, I could understand the real politik of looking the other way while the pakis played their Game of Thrones because we had bigger fish to fry at the time right after 9/11.  And it was hoped that over time, we could build trust and bring the pakis around through aid and cooperation.  But this has gone on for so long and they are directly responsible for many thousands of our people being dead.  The fact that they harbored OBL and his AQ network from the very start is unforgivable.  And it is common knowledge that the Paki's routinely tipped off AQ and Taliban militants whenever the US would alert Paki officials about an impending drone strike.  Which is why we eventually just stopped telling them ahead of time.

Seriously, fuck them and the goat they rode in on!

The whole uneasy relationship has been going on since the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, with, I hasten to add the British playing their part in it as well. 

This is what happens when you start fighting proxy wars.  Especially when you start backing the wrong tribes!

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4 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

WTF would we care?  Who cares if they get in bed with the Chinese or the Soviets?  I think they will quickly find out the US was a far better friend than either of those will ever be.  I think we need to throw all in with India just to teak the pakis' feathers.  The US-Paki relationship has become untenable and its time to cut our losses.  

And yes I realize that means that we would lose a significant logistics pipeline for Afghanistan.  So be it.  Time to leave there too.  I'm happy for the pakis to inherit that shithouse too.  Let it be their problem.  Once the full weight of that hits them, the pakis will come begging the US for help once they realize their rabies ridden pitbulls (Haqqanis and other groups) they've tried to keep on a leash turns and bites them instead.  

Maybe it would be a good idea if both the US and anybody else just pull out and leave them all to clean their own house for a change. 30 plus years of us meddling over there hasn’t accomplished a bloody thing in the long term. 

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18 hours ago, mad said:

Maybe it would be a good idea if both the US and anybtody else just pull out and leave them all to clean their own house for a change. 30 plus years of us meddling over there hasn’t accomplished a bloody thing in the long term. 

Maybe the US etc pull out and leave them as bait for the Chinese to swallow. 

Then we can see how it pans out for them.

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On 1/5/2018 at 10:56 PM, Shootist Jeff said:

How do you figure that?

You’re smart, you’ll figure it out when the body bags start coming out.

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On 1/5/2018 at 11:45 PM, Shortforbob said:

hope they know what they're doing.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/pakistans-imran-khan-calls-for-retaliation-after-trump-ignorant-insults-20180105-h0ech0.html

Pakistan's Imran Khan calls for retaliation after Trump's 'ignorant' insults

Did anyone else read this and hear the theme song?

 

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On 1/6/2018 at 2:46 PM, mad said:

Maybe it would be a good idea if both the US and anybody else just pull out and leave them all to clean their own house for a change. 30 plus years of us meddling over there hasn’t accomplished a bloody thing in the long term. 

Zactly!

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3 hours ago, Raz'r said:

You’re smart, you’ll figure it out when the body bags start coming out.

Fuck you.  Just say what you mean to say.  Why are you being so cryptic?  

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Wasn't it "pulling out of the region and letting it stew" a large factor in Pakistan becoming a nuclear power and the rise of OBL?  Pulling back certainly didn't work out well in the '20's.  All the actors in the region are "two faced" in the sense that they have their own interests while dealing with the interests of the last remaining superpower. Abrogating our role in supporting a world that we, primarily, created will have consequences far beyond that region.

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On 1/6/2018 at 5:46 PM, mad said:

Maybe it would be a good idea if both the US and anybody else just pull out and leave them all to clean their own house for a change. 30 plus years of us meddling over there hasn’t accomplished a bloody thing in the long term. 

30 plus years of success at the tax cattle's expense? 

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4 minutes ago, learningJ24 said:

Wasn't it "pulling out of the region and letting it stew" a large factor in Pakistan becoming a nuclear power and the rise of OBL?  Pulling back certainly didn't work out well in the '20's.  All the actors in the region are "two faced" in the sense that they have their own interests while dealing with the interests of the last remaining superpower. Abrogating our role in supporting a world that we, primarily, created will have consequences far beyond that region.

I don't think so.  The Pakis were going to pursue nukes irregardless of what we did or said given that India was doing so. 

And OBL did not "rise" in the region due to lack of US engagement.  Yes, he got his start in the Mujahideen and was trained by Pakistan to fight against the Soviets.  But the US was fully engaged then and even supplied the Muj most of their weapons.  He stayed in Afghanistan for a bit but left when he fell out with the Afghan warlords and went back to Saudi.  He got his "rise" when the US invaded Iraq in 91 and stationed troops in Saudi.  He didn't necessarily hate the US until we stationed troops in the land of Mecca.  That really got OBL going and he relocated to Sudan after criticizing the KSA Royal family and stayed in Sudan until he was expelled in 95 and fled back to Afghanistan.  

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With the fall of the Soviet Union, we pulled out of Afghanistan, leaving groups trained in bringing down a superpower. The invasion of Iraq gave OBL the religious justification for targeting the US (although you left out the US support for Israel v Palestine in OBL's justification for 9/11) but our disengagement from the region left the power vacuum for OBL and others to exploit.  My point is that pulling out and ignoring the region is likely to cause more problems than not.  I DO agree that the failure of the millitary mission to do more than create a never ending supply of antagonists is reason to pull THEM out and try something different.  A middle east Marshall plan has as good or better chance of success (success being stable governments with majority support that don't utterly hate us).

 

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Jeff - this is *exactly why* Trump is so dangerous. he told the truth * this time*, but people grow weary of sorting through his daily lies to find a nugget of truth in them.

See the boy who cried wolf ;)

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On 1/5/2018 at 11:02 PM, Shootist Jeff said:

Other than Mark, not a single one of you swinging dicks has bothered to even comment on the veracity of trump's statement.  For someone who habitually lies, this is the one time he speaks the truth and none of you can even recognize it.  Do any of you idiots actually think that the Pakis are not playing a double game?  That they are not a den of two-faced snakes?  That they want to have their cake and eat it too?  

In the early days, I could understand the real politik of looking the other way while the pakis played their Game of Thrones because we had bigger fish to fry at the time right after 9/11.  And it was hoped that over time, we could build trust and bring the pakis around through aid and cooperation.  But this has gone on for so long and they are directly responsible for many thousands of our people being dead.  The fact that they harbored OBL and his AQ network from the very start is unforgivable.  And it is common knowledge that the Paki's routinely tipped off AQ and Taliban militants whenever the US would alert Paki officials about an impending drone strike.  Which is why we eventually just stopped telling them ahead of time.

Seriously, fuck them and the goat they rode in on!

I try to teach my children something I call "personal responsibility." When they make a decision that then goes sideways, I want them to accept that they were the ones who set that all in motion and not blame others.

 

We decided to go to war in that part of the world, JBSF. Pakistan didn't force us, nobody held our face into our tapioca pudding at the lunch table until we said "uncle."

We decided to send Americans there, and the femtosecond that we decided to do that, that American blood was on our American hands.

I have had two physicist friends in the Guard, both deployed to Afghanistan, neither of them blame Pakistan for anything they experienced, for friends they lost. They have personal responsibility.

But the operator of a remote control flying killer robot, while sipping his mocha latte in Nevada, blames Pakistan. Even deliberately insults them with an ethnic slur, even after at least 138 women, children and civilian Pakistani men were blown to smithereens by American missiles.

JBSF, my seventeen year old daughter is going to learn about personal responsibility today, she broke something rather expensive in her car. She's going to accept personal responsibility for that. Do you need to sit in on that daddy lecture too? I might even buy you both your beloved mocha latte to ease the sting of "personal responsibility."

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On 1/5/2018 at 10:02 PM, Shootist Jeff said:

Other than Mark, not a single one of you swinging dicks has bothered to even comment on the veracity of trump's statement.  For someone who habitually lies, this is the one time he speaks the truth and none of you can even recognize it.  Do any of you idiots actually think that the Pakis are not playing a double game?  That they are not a den of two-faced snakes?  That they want to have their cake and eat it too?  

In the early days, I could understand the real politik of looking the other way while the pakis played their Game of Thrones because we had bigger fish to fry at the time right after 9/11.  And it was hoped that over time, we could build trust and bring the pakis around through aid and cooperation.  But this has gone on for so long and they are directly responsible for many thousands of our people being dead.  The fact that they harbored OBL and his AQ network from the very start is unforgivable.  And it is common knowledge that the Paki's routinely tipped off AQ and Taliban militants whenever the US would alert Paki officials about an impending drone strike.  Which is why we eventually just stopped telling them ahead of time.

Seriously, fuck them and the goat they rode in on!

True, but we haven't wanted to foment a revolution there so we've just dealt with it. Most think that if a revolution came it could well result in a radical Islamic regime...and one with nukes. Bitching them out publicly feels good but what's the end game? 

  

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On ‎6‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 3:45 PM, Shortforbob said:

 hope they know what they're doing.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/pakistans-imran-khan-calls-for-retaliation-after-trump-ignorant-insults-20180105-h0ech0.html

Pakistan's Imran Khan calls for retaliation after Trump's 'ignorant' insults

 

Islamabad: Pakistani Opposition Leader Imran Khan, a former cricket star tipped as the next prime minister, said it was time for Pakistan to "delink" from the United states and run down American diplomatic and intelligence presence in the country. 

It comes as Pakistani Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif said the United States was behaving towards his country as "a friend who always betrays" after Washington suspended aid and President Donald Trump accused Islamabad of lies and deceit over many years.

  • Former cricketer, now Pakistan's Opposition Leader Imran Khan, centre, said Trump was "ignorant and ungrateful" after ...
Former cricketer, now Pakistan's Opposition Leader Imran Khan, centre, said Trump was "ignorant and ungrateful" after the US leader accused Pakistan of harbouring terrorists. Photo: B.K.BANGASH

Washington accuses Pakistan of playing a "double game" by assisting Afghan Taliban and Haqqani network militants causing chaos in Afghanistan. Islamabad denies this and accuses the US of disrespecting its vast sacrifices - casualties have numbered in the tens of thousands - in fighting terrorism.

Anti-American sentiment and tense US-Pakistan ties are some way off their recent nadir in 2011, when Osama bin Laden was killed in a secret US raid inside Pakistan, but the harsh rhetoric is likely to make it harder to mend future ties.

"The US behaviour is neither that of an ally nor of a friend," Asif told local Capital TV. "It is a friend who always betrays."

Small groups of students chanting "Death to America" and "Death to Trump" burnt American flags and torched photos of Trump after Friday prayers in capital Islamabad and the eastern city of Lahore. The organised protests ended swiftly.

 

 

Did meli see the Imran Khan fatwa from the bearded nutjobs?

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‘Kufr’ Fatwa to be issued against Imran Khan unless he publicly apologizes, religious group issues serious warning
Pakistan
by Hamza Rao | Published on January 2, 2017

LAHORE – Pir Muhammad Afzal Qadri, a religious scholar who issued Fatwa of infidelity against Shaan Taseer, has written an open letter to Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf Imran Khan over his speech regarding prophet Muhammad (PBUH), warning him of facing ‘dire consequences’ if he doesn’t render an apology.

The Fatwa alleges that Imran Khan, in one of his speeches, had said blasphemous sentences for the Prophet (PBUH) and ‘accused’ him of being mentally ill.

Talking to Daily Pakistan, Pir Muhammad Afzal Qadri said that if the leader doesn’t render an open apology, the organisation will formally issue a religious edict, declaring him a ‘Wajib-ul-Qatal’ (liable to death).

“If the state fails to execute Imran Khan, it wouldn’t be a crime if any ‘aashiq-e-Rasool’ (lover of prophet P.B.U.H) kills him. He will be exempt from Qisas and Diyat (blood money),” Qadri told Daily Pakistan, adding the blood of blasphemer – in this case, Imran Khan’s – has no worth compared to Prophet (PBUH).

Just recently, Qadri had also issued a ‘Kufr’ fatwa against Shaan Taseer, son of the slain Governor Salman Taseer, for allegedly committing blasphemy in his ‘Christmas special’ video message.

It is pertinent to note that under the National Action Plan (NAP), religious extremism and persecution was outlawed. Hate speech and threats under the label of religious beliefs were supposed to be dealt with high sensitivity. However, the majority of the hate speech has gone scot-free.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/kufr-fatwa-to-be-issued-against-imran-khan-unless-he-publicly-apologizes-religious-group-issues-s.470366/

 

 

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On 1/5/2018 at 11:45 PM, Shortforbob said:
 
You DO Know who Imran Khan is don't ya ?
In a nutshell Imran Khan is indisputably the greatest cricketer to emerge from Pakistan, and arguably the world's second-best allrounder after Garry Sobers. He took a mediocre side and transformed them into world-beaters, leading them to the World Cup title in 1992.
Image result for imran khan cricketer He Was the hottest man in the wirld :D

You, too, huh?

I didn't use to know who he was  -  but the number of conversations about Pakistan, that have been completely derailed by the mere mention of that guy, in the presence of my wife...

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55 minutes ago, frenchie said:

You, too, huh?

I didn't use to know who he was  -  but the number of conversations about Pakistan, that have been completely derailed by the mere mention of that guy, in the presence of my wife...

He's not too bad to look at these days either :D

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No. 1 Nation in Sexy Web Searches? Call it Pornistan

They may call it the "Land of the Pure," but Pakistan turns out to be anything but.

The Muslim country, which has banned content on at least 17 websites to block offensive and blasphemous material, is the world's leader in online searches for pornographic material, FoxNews.com has learned.

“You won’t find strip clubs in Islamic countries. Most Islamic countries have certain dress codes,” said Gabriel Said Reynolds, professor of Islamic Studies at the University of Notre Dame. “It would be an irony if they haven’t shown the same vigilance to pornography.”

So here's the irony: Google ranks Pakistan No. 1 in the world in searches for pornographic terms, outranking every other country in the world in searches per person for certain sex-related content.

Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for "horse sex" since 2004, "donkey sex" since 2007, "rape pictures" between 2004 and 2009, "rape sex" since 2004, "child sex" between 2004 and 2007 and since 2009, "animal sex" since 2004 and "dog sex" since 2005, according to Google Trends and Google Insights, features of Google that generate data based on popular search terms.

The country also is tops -- or has been No. 1 -- in searches for "sex," "camel sex," "rape video," "child sex video" and some other searches that can't be printed here.

Google Trends generates data of popular search terms in geographic locations during specific time frames. Google Insights is a more advanced version that allows users to filter a search to geographic locations, time frames and the nature of a search, including web, images, products and news.

Pakistan ranked No. 1 in all the searches listed above on Google Trends, but on only some of them in Google Insights.

“We do our best to provide accurate data and to provide insights into broad search patterns, but the results for a given query may contain inaccuracies due to data sampling issues, approximations, or incomplete data for the terms entered,” Google said in a statement, when asked about the accuracy of its reports. 

The Embassy of Islamic Republic of Pakistan did not reply to a request for an interview.

In addition to banning content on 17 websites, including islamexposed.blogspot.com, Pakistan is monitoring seven other sites -- Google, Yahoo, Bing, YouTube, Amazon, MSN and Hotmail -- for anti-Islamic content, the Associated Press reported in June.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12/data-shows-pakistan-googling-pornographic-material.html

The Land of the Pure...lol

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17 hours ago, learningJ24 said:

With the fall of the Soviet Union, we pulled out of Afghanistan, leaving groups trained in bringing down a superpower. The invasion of Iraq gave OBL the religious justification for targeting the US (although you left out the US support for Israel v Palestine in OBL's justification for 9/11) but our disengagement from the region left the power vacuum for OBL and others to exploit.  My point is that pulling out and ignoring the region is likely to cause more problems than not.  I DO agree that the failure of the millitary mission to do more than create a never ending supply of antagonists is reason to pull THEM out and try something different.  A middle east Marshall plan has as good or better chance of success (success being stable governments with majority support that don't utterly hate us).

 

And prior to the fall of the Soviet Union, we supported Mujaheddin Freedom Fighters. They were a problem when we left? Hmm. The root of the problem seems to be our meddling.

Invading Iraq is similarly NOT an example of our disengagement.

My point is that pulling out and ignoring our meddling in the region is likely to cause more problems than not.

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21 hours ago, mikewof said:

I try to teach my children something I call "personal responsibility." When they make a decision that then goes sideways, I want them to accept that they were the ones who set that all in motion and not blame others.

 

We decided to go to war in that part of the world, JBSF. Pakistan didn't force us, nobody held our face into our tapioca pudding at the lunch table until we said "uncle."

We decided to send Americans there, and the femtosecond that we decided to do that, that American blood was on our American hands.

I have had two physicist friends in the Guard, both deployed to Afghanistan, neither of them blame Pakistan for anything they experienced, for friends they lost. They have personal responsibility.

But the operator of a remote control flying killer robot, while sipping his mocha latte in Nevada, blames Pakistan. Even deliberately insults them with an ethnic slur, even after at least 138 women, children and civilian Pakistani men were blown to smithereens by American missiles.

JBSF, my seventeen year old daughter is going to learn about personal responsibility today, she broke something rather expensive in her car. She's going to accept personal responsibility for that. Do you need to sit in on that daddy lecture too? I might even buy you both your beloved mocha latte to ease the sting of "personal responsibility."

I actually prefer a standard Vente Cafe Latte with one Sweet & Low.  Thanks.

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16 hours ago, Mark K said:

True, but we haven't wanted to foment a revolution there so we've just dealt with it. Most think that if a revolution came it could well result in a radical Islamic regime...and one with nukes. Bitching them out publicly feels good but what's the end game? 

  

This ^^^^

Everyone knows we paid them to hunt OBL and OBL paid them to not find him.

There just seems to be no upside to screwing with them now.

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52 minutes ago, Shootist Jeff said:

I actually prefer a standard Vente Cafe Latte with one Sweet & Low.  Thanks.

Okay, goes with your pedicure, I guess.

For the sake of your future, consider the national drink of the Nation of Man ... gas station coffee, black, faint odor of octane, tastes of angel's wings.

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17 hours ago, Mark K said:
On 1/6/2018 at 10:02 AM, Shootist Jeff said:

Seriously, fuck them and the goat they rode in on!

True, but we haven't wanted to foment a revolution there so we've just dealt with it. Most think that if a revolution came it could well result in a radical Islamic regime...and one with nukes. Bitching them out publicly feels good but what's the end game? 

I'm not sure how you got that I'm advocating fomenting a revolution there???  Quite the contrary.  I'm simply saying that if pakishitistan cannot be a slightly less shitty, two faced actor then they can deal with their own issues without billions in US aid.  they are not even very subtle about it.

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It is nasty realpolitik is what it is - pay the shitheads X dollars or have their country turn into a mess and cause <X or >X problems. Until now the theory was paying them was cheaper than dealing with a cash and carry Jihadi nuke flea market.

Also there is the fake war with a few people vs. real war with India. They go nuking each other and it will be disruptive to the rest of the class to say the least and India may not want to wait to see what happens.

 

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43 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said:

It is nasty realpolitik is what it is - pay the shitheads X dollars or have their country turn into a mess and cause <X or >X problems. Until now the theory was paying them was cheaper than dealing with a cash and carry Jihadi nuke flea market.

Also there is the fake war with a few people vs. real war with India. They go nuking each other and it will be disruptive to the rest of the class to say the least and India may not want to wait to see what happens.

 

Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Shrub and Obama generally understood realpolitik.  Carter at one extreme and Trump at the other did/do not.  

Of course, realpolitik and "full transparency" rarely go hand in hand.  

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5 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

I'm not sure how you got that I'm advocating fomenting a revolution there???  Quite the contrary.  I'm simply saying that if pakishitistan cannot be a slightly less shitty, two faced actor then they can deal with their own issues without billions in US aid.  they are not even very subtle about it.

 Some believe that without aid from the US and the KSA  Pakistan would collapse, and fairly quickly too. Seems plausible to me, at minimum. It's a messed up place, bigly. Best to wait until we are completely out of Afghanistan before we let that happen, maybe?  

 Trump doubled down on Afghanistan, btw. We are sending more military there now, not less.  

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5 hours ago, Mark K said:

 Some believe that without aid from the US and the KSA  Pakistan would collapse, and fairly quickly too. Seems plausible to me, at minimum. It's a messed up place, bigly. Best to wait until we are completely out of Afghanistan before we let that happen, maybe?  

 Trump doubled down on Afghanistan, btw. We are sending more military there now, not less.  

Shhh, I’m waiting for Jeffie to figure it out...

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7 hours ago, Mark K said:

 Some believe that without aid from the US and the KSA  Pakistan would collapse, and fairly quickly too. Seems plausible to me, at minimum. It's a messed up place, bigly. Best to wait until we are completely out of Afghanistan before we let that happen, maybe?  

 

 

Creating Pakistan by carving a huge chunk from India was a huge fucking mistake perhaps it would have been better to not carve out a muslim shithole in the first place, do we have to keep throwing billions at it in the hope it will one day become better?

 

Are the Pakistanis incapable of improving things on their own or will it become another Islamist shithole?

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Partition of India

The Partition of India was the division of British India[a] in 1947 which accompanied the creation of two independent dominions, India and Pakistan.[1] The Dominion of India is today the Republic of India, and the Dominion of Pakistan is today the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the People's Republic of Bangladesh. The partition involved the division of three provinces, Assam, Bengal and the Punjab, based on district-wide Hindu or Muslim majorities. The boundary demarcating India and Pakistan became known as the Radcliffe Line. It also involved the division of the British Indian Army, the Royal Indian Navy, the Indian Civil Service, the railways, and the central treasury, between the two new dominions. The partition was set forth in the Indian Independence Act 1947 and resulted in the dissolution of the British Raj, as the British government there was called. The two self-governing countries of Pakistan and India legally came into existence at midnight on 14–15 August 1947.[2]

The partition displaced over 14 million people along religious lines, creating overwhelming refugee crises in the newly constituted dominions; there was large-scale violence, with estimates of loss of life accompanying or preceding the partition disputed and varying between several hundred thousand and two million.[3] The violent nature of the partition created an atmosphere of hostility and suspicion between India and Pakistan that plagues their relationship to the present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India

 

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4 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

Are the Pakistanis incapable of improving things on their own or will it become another Islamist shithole?

Become???

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On 1/3/2018 at 7:41 PM, Shootist Jeff said:

The Pakis have been fucking us around for years now and they needed to be called out on their fuckery.

The entire planet has, bit slow mate, no one likes the school yard bully. 

It is their country, what . the . fuck is the US interfering with them for anyway? 

Jesuz fucking christ you guys are truly fucked up

 

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On 1/9/2018 at 2:23 AM, random said:

The entire planet has, bit slow mate, no one likes the school yard bully. 

It is their country, what . the . fuck is the US interfering with them for anyway? 

Jesuz fucking christ you guys are truly fucked up

Nah. We're no more fucked up than any other country. The total fucked up quotient of any given country always asymptomatically tends toward 1. So yeah, Saudi Arabia is fucked because of the religious police, but that makes it more fun to break the rules, totals 1. Canada is lovely with great people, but it's cold as a witch's iron titty, tends to 1. Brazil has half naked beauties, terrific soccer, incredible food, but you have religious guilt from that giant statue, tends to 1. Finland, yes on friendly ladies and Finnish baseball, uh, maybe some countries tend above 1.

Lessee ...

USA, we have an odd President, but he's amusing as all git out, and we have truly excellent fish tacos, tends to 1. New Zealand has some of the best fishing and outdoor sports on the planet, but it's right next door to Australia, tends to 1. Australia is redeemed a little bit by being so close to NZ, New Caledonia and PNG, but they are a nation of Bundaberg drinkers, which is a big ratings ding against them, tends to 1.

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5 hours ago, mikewof said:

Nah. We're no more fucked up than any other country. The total fucked up quotient of any given country always asymptomatically tends toward 1. So yeah, Saudi Arabia is fucked because of the religious police, but that makes it more fun to break the rules, totals 1. Canada is lovely with great people, but it's cold as a witch's iron titty, tends to 1. Brazil has half naked beauties, terrific soccer, incredible food, but you have religious guilt from that giant statue, tends to 1. Finland, yes on friendly ladies and Finnish baseball, uh, maybe some countries tend above 1.

Lessee ...

USA, we have an odd President, but he's amusing as all git out, and we have truly excellent fish tacos, tends to 1. New Zealand has some of the best fishing and outdoor sports on the planet, but it's right next door to Australia, tends to 1. Australia is redeemed a little bit by being so close to NZ, New Caledonia and PNG, but they are a nation of Bundaberg drinkers, which is a big ratings ding against them, tends to 1.

Nicely done, mike. Golf clap. 

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Trump squandered an opportunity when he came into office.  Trump had the chance to end America’s longest war, the fifteen-year long US war in Afghanistan.  On the campaign trail, Trump had made semi-isolationist noises indicating that he was open to a smaller US role in the world.

The damnedest thing is that Trump seems to have realized that he was throwing away an opportunity.  The President spoke about his Administration’s “new” strategy in a national address on August 21, 2017.  The President said: “My original instinct was to pull out—and, historically, I like following my instincts.”  Indeed, as Americans learn more and more about the shenanigans of the Trump children, we are likely to agree that Trump should pull out more often.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/01/11/pakistan-and-afghanistan-feel-trumps-touch/

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