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Is the US Navy doing Navigation Seminars now?

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Iranian tanker heading to China hits other ship and gets 'a-burning. Following USN Protocol? Or perhaps just a copycat. Film was posted at 11.

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Anyone know what the tracklines into collision were?   Tanker sailing from Iran to South Korea would be sailing generally north.

Container ship from Pacific Northwest of US with grain for China, would be sailing generally west or southwest. 

This was open water so not in or near a traffic zone as were the two Navy/ship collisions. 

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Photos appear to show tanker SANCHI listing to starboard, which could indicate having been struck, and holed, on her starboard side.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tanker+sanchi+ablaze+photo&qpvt=tanker+sanchi+ablaze+photo&FORM=IGRE

And damage to CRYSTAL described as moderate, which may mean Crystal's bow  t-boned Sanchi.  This would be roughly consistent with the voyages each were on, unless of course either or both altered course before impact.   So this is half WAG and half semi-SWAG on my part. 

Wondering if anyone has seen any AIS-based tracklines of the vessels leading up to collision.

Hope they find some survivors, but does not look good.

 

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1 hour ago, nolatom said:

Photos appear to show tanker SANCHI listing to starboard, which could indicate having been struck, and holed, on her starboard side.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tanker+sanchi+ablaze+photo&qpvt=tanker+sanchi+ablaze+photo&FORM=IGRE

And damage to CRYSTAL described as moderate, which may mean Crystal's bow  t-boned Sanchi.  This would be roughly consistent with the voyages each were on, unless of course either or both altered course before impact.   So this is half WAG and half semi-SWAG on my part. 

Wondering if anyone has seen any AIS-based tracklines of the vessels leading up to collision.

Hope they find some survivors, but does not look good.

 

and they want to automate cars on US roads...       probably another set it and forget it..

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40 minutes ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

and they want to automate cars on US roads...       probably another set it and forget it..

The thing is, in many collisions, if all the navigators on both ships had walked off the bridge 10 minutes prior, they wouldn't have collided.  It's when they begin to make evasive movements too late, fake each other out, and "turn into" each other rather than away, and can't recover because it's too late and there's no room left to correct it.

That's not to say empty wheelhouse is a good idea.  Other times timely action saves the day.  But a collision in open water with no other vessels nearby, suggests someone wasn't paying attention.

We'll find out in due course.  I was just wondering if there was a site showing their AIS-based tracklines as they approached each other.  What little the destinations of each, and wreck photos show, suggests a crossing situation with bulker on the right of the tanker.

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