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40 minutes ago, NRA_MEMBER said:

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Care to compare the number of times President Obama lied to the number of times President Trump lied?

I'll bet not.

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On 3/15/2018 at 8:37 AM, Bent Sailor said:

Off topic rant... to be fair, Steve Jobs was a talented & driven man but I wouldn't consider him a "genius". Kind of like the word "hero" shouldn't be applied to every cop, fireman, and lines man - I don't think the word "genius" should be applied to everyone that is smart and successful. 

Steve Jobs IQ was estimated to be above 160.

That is six standard deviations above the mean

 

Genius is four standard deviations above the mean. 

Standard  deviation from the mean is about 16% at each end of the bell curve 

 

above 140 is genius 

150 and above is  16% of geniuses. 

Let’s call them Genius Plus.  (GP)

Jobs was among the top 16% of GP

 

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summary analogy 

Let’s say “tall” is over 6’3.

lets say 16% of tall guys are over 6’5”

let’s say 16% of those guys are over 6’11”

A guy who measures in at 7 feet is tall 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Gouvernail said:

Steve Jobs IQ was estimated to be above 160.

Having seen the kinds of IQ "estimates" celebrities get given, I'm going to have to pass on taking it as gospel. The source of that 160 IQ is from a pop psychologist, taking Jobs at his word about what he supposedly ranked in a test in the 4th grade , despite there being no proof of said result nor such stark advancement evident in his educational history. A single anecdote, from a renowned ego-maniac, with no paper trail or evidence of any kind to back it up? Next you'll be telling me Trump is most certainly the best president ever! :rolleyes: 

Most engineers I know were considered "gifted" as children. Every one of my kids is in the gifted program at school, with my youngest being advanced by years in his school. I am super proud of my boys and overly happy with their intelligence... but once again, I would not consider them geniuses. 

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On the IQ and genius thing I am probably in the same General area as @Bent Sailor

there is an IQ text called Stanford Binet 

it was originally administered to children as a tool for predicting their success in school.  

The results were astoundingly accurate but, because the home where you live is the very most important factor in schooo success, the test is absolutely biased by economics, parental education level, and a whole lot of other factors that have zip nada to do with the actual physiology of the brain of the kid being tested. 

A kid who lives in a one parent home where mom is drugged senseless most days is going to get a very low score and a kid, like me, living in suburbia with two college educated parents is going to score very high. 

Genius wasn’t about “how smart a kid was.” Genius meant the kid had such a fantastic head start he was virtually guaranteed to prosper in school.

but... people just had to use the  Stanford Binet terms ( moron, imbecile, gifted, genius and others) as general descriptions of the kids. ... and pretty much everybody.

ego clubs like MENSA invented tests for adults so those who tested well on the particular tests could label themselves as genius. 

Sooo... back to modern use

Genius should be a guy who is four standard deviations from the mean .

If I remember my high school math right, that is a rate of a little over  one in 15,000 

was Jobs a 1 in 15,000 kind of guy?? Certainly!! 

160 would be six standard deviations or something over a half million.

in our country of  300,000,000 was Jobs computer and  business acumen sufficientbto call him one of a special group of 600?  

Once again, I gotta go with yes. 

Seven standard deviations , I think, puts us in the vicinity of 400,000,000,000. 

Nobody has any way to test the accuracy of such a claim. There haven’t been that many people yet. Not even Buddha, Christ, Mohammed, or Einstein can legitimately claim Membership in that club.  

There is no IQ above 160 because there is no way to test hypothesis “this person is the smartest of 400,000,000,000.  We cannot even count on any real measurement  to establish the one in 15,000 claim 

except in sports.

anybody who makes it into a major league roster is at least a 1 in 15,000 talent.  

Certainly a guy who plays for ten years is a 150 baseball IQ guy.

of all the kids who pick up a bat and glove, those who have made  it into the Hall of Fame are absolutely in that 600 of the 300,000,000.

 

summarizing:

 

Statistically, Genius is one in 15,000

in the world  of computer geeks, Jobs qualifies. 

In fact, pretty much everybody who is well known , is a statistical  genius 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

In fact, pretty much everybody who is well known , is a statistical  genius

Kim Kardashian?

George Bush II?

 

You may want to revisit that hypothesis.

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On 3/9/2018 at 12:49 AM, Bus Driver said:

I look forward to Jeff owning that lie.

Ok, one did.  I was wrong.

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On 3/19/2018 at 12:28 AM, Righty_tighty_lefty_dumbas said:

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Ok, that's actually kinda funny!  :D

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On 3/27/2018 at 8:08 PM, Bus Driver said:

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Ha!  :lol:

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6 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

Ok, that's actually kinda funny!  :D

Not surprising - it's the kind of vacuous ignorance that seems to appeal to you.

How about posting s mindless meme about how cars kill more people but........

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2 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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He was on holiday. You think God has a locum?

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Apparently I imagined for a group of liberal women at the exclusive Women only club called The Wing today how things would be different if I was president, which I'm not, but should have been except for ... Whirrrrrrr clack clack . clack .. clack .... clack ......... clack  

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Oh, so you do know where the vapid meme thread is. Good to know your other one was just another plaintive cry for attention, Jack. I was worried your mind hd completely deserted you... you know, more than usual.

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Hapless, FFS find something funny to post. The stuff you pick is just so lame it's embarrassing.

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At least @Hillary, I mean @Happy Jack, isn't displaying his hypocrisy by crowing about how much hotter the Republican women are, after chastising other posters for objectifying women.

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But he's so right about R women.

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2 hours ago, badlatitude said:

I just do not know what to say.

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"What a doofus" springs to mind.

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4 hours ago, badlatitude said:

I just do not know what to say.

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"I knew I should have gone with the 'Extra Hold' spray"

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4 hours ago, badlatitude said:

I just do not know what to say.

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My barber wouldn’t let me get out of the chair with eyebrows like that. 

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Kinda looks like one of the older nuns in sister Petrel's convent on "The Flying Nun".....

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On 2/19/2018 at 9:48 AM, Mid said:

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3 hours ago, Mid said:

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The only thing wrong with this picture is that Pence would be smiling, as always..... well, no, I think his smile would be bigger and more genuine

-DSK

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Our resident dumbass responds to a flurry of pictures posted as being a "hissy fit", and responds with his own flurry.

Simpleton.

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58 minutes ago, Dunyazad said:

Cleese the rapper. Is this reality or are you just meming?

 

doesn't ring true ..Cleese is funny.

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28 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

doesn't ring true ..Cleese is funny.

And yet, despite how it "rings" to you, it is indeed true.

 

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8 hours ago, Mid said:

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Lefty lies.

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The only time melania looks happy? At a funeral.

Captions? 

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4 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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You really can't hear that Chinese fiddle music can you?

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4 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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As is typical of Lyin's posts, that is a lie.

 

"This is not a statement that appears in any translation of any of Freud's works. It is a paraphrase of a statement from the essay "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution" (February 1990) by Don B. Kates, Jr. where Kates summarizes his views of passages in Dreams in Folklore (1958) by Freud and David E. Oppenheim, while disputing statements by Emmanuel Tanay in "Neurotic Attachment to Guns" in a 1976 edition of The Fifty Minute Hour: A Collection of True Psychoanalytic Tales (1955) by Robert Mitchell Lindner:

Dr. Tanay is perhaps unaware of — in any event, he does not cite — other passages more relevant to his argument. In these other passages Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons. The probative importance that ought to be attached to the views of Freud is, of course, a matter of opinion. The point here is only that those views provide no support for the penis theory of gun ownership.


Due to misreading of this essay and its citations, this paraphrase of an opinion about Freud's ideas has been wrongly attributed to Freud himself, and specifically to his 10th Lecture "Symbolism in Dreams" in General Introduction to Psychoanalysis on some internet forum pages: alt.quotations, uk.politics.guns, talk.politics.guns, can.talk.guns , etc.

One of the statements by Freud which Kates summarized from in Dreams in Folklore (1958), p. 33, reads:

"The representation of the penis as a weapon, cutting knife, dagger etc., is familiar to us from the anxiety dreams of abstinent women in particular and also lies at the root of numerous phobias in neurotic people." "
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On 5/8/2018 at 3:00 AM, Mid said:

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The blood of patriots refreshing the tree of liberty

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2 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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old news mid.gif.530035aa5f00b2c73ebd5f79001fe731.gif

 

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2 minutes ago, Mid said:

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Since we all came from Africa the Abos were probably the first boat people.

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6 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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Yup. The fifties and sixties were a time of great racism both here and in the USA. If that is news to you, I'd suggest quietly slinking back under your rock when the adults talk about serious issues.

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6 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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I'm glad you agree on the need for a "standard firearms license". Perhaps you can stop humping the yanks legs for a minute or two to explain that to them.

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On 5/15/2018 at 10:17 AM, Bent Sailor said:
On 5/15/2018 at 4:01 AM, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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Yup. The fifties and sixties were a time of great racism both here and in the USA. If that is news to you, I'd suggest quietly slinking back under your rock when the adults talk about serious issues.

Also, if you think racism is one of the good things about "the good old days" then you should also slide back under that rock and shut the fuck up.

-DSK

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On 5/15/2018 at 4:02 AM, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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I don't understand the basis of this. Mueller is investigating and has yet to make any accusation against Trump that I am aware of.

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56 minutes ago, inneedofadvice said:

I don't understand the basis of this. Mueller is investigating and has yet to make any accusation against Trump that I am aware of.

But you aren't a moronic right wing shill.

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