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Clean!  Great job on your reporting and giving air time to the need for diversity in our sport and way of life.   I watched and listened with interest your post and interview on the FP called Black Celebration.  Good for you!  It is way way long overdue and nice to see that there is some minuscule semblance of activity out there for African Americans and other non white ethnic groups who would like to sail and/or learn how to sail, being a part of the sailing community.  The Outdoor Industry was just shown its economic numbers by the Gov't.  2% of America's GDP to be exact!  Here is the article.
 
 
Given that, the only way I see for the Outdoor Industry, which in my mind Sailing is a big part of, to survive and not die on the vine within the next 20-25 years, is to begin to start accepting and including and making it more possible for a more diverse population that the US has become.  Within the next 20 years, if not sooner, most of us will be a minority racial group in this Country.  Those figures and more are in these two articles I have included below.  The first is an excellent op-ed, and the second is a look at several of those individuals who are beginning to break that glass ceiling, or just buck the trend altogether.  
 
Enjoy the read!  And again, very nicely done, Mr. Clean!
 
From Outdoor Magazine online:
 
Last week we published an op-ed that argued the outdoor industry is dragging its feet when it comes to inclusion. But not everyone feels that way, and here are six emerging industry leaders—of varying backgrounds—sharing their opinions on the matter.
 
 
 
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14 minutes ago, VWAP said:

Wallace has got a lot of talent and potential. Wendell Scott is the true pioneer. Had his own team that operated on a shoestring budget, substituting brains for dollars. Even won a race, and over 100 top-ten finishes in a 12 year career. Natural born driver.

 

 

 

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Loved this quote from the OP's second article: “It’s important to acknowledge that people of color are already outside,” says Williams. “We’re simply absent from the stories that America tells herself about the outdoors. Let’s get rid of the damaging stereotypes.”

Sailing needs more people. Young people, people of color, queer people. Sailing is something awesome and more people should experience it. On top of that, the "getting young people into sailing" mission coincides with increasing diversity, as the youngest generation in America is also the most diverse.

 

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Jackson park yacht club is cool as hell 

one of the few yacht clubs that I have been to that is trying to be inclusive rather than exclusive 

get people ,all people, in the door and have some fun

great breakfast as well!!

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Darrell 'Bubba' Wallace ran in the top ten all race, finished second. Pretty damn good for a rookie driving for a single car team, even if it's Petty. Outstanding even. 

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My yacht club has had near 50% female commodores since its inception.  We're a very incluse club; candidates are accepted regardless of diversity, but not many (1 or 2) black members over the years, fine people, but didn't want to pursue the commodoreship.  That's OK too.

 

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And here in the States, tomorrow is a national day of morning. Enjoy your day off and please try to live your lives and conduct yourselves as anything other than mindless "shitholes". Peace!

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Bizarre that while on this thread we have people promoting inclusion in sailing - which any sane sailor, to say nothing of any decent human being, should agree is a good thing - simultaneously we have Mr. Angry Man spewing hatred of blacks, homosexuals, Europeans, Canadians, and probably a few other groups I've forgotten (his bigotry is so wide-ranging that it's difficult to keep up). :(

 

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24 minutes ago, Svanen said:

Bizarre that while on this thread we have people promoting inclusion in sailing - which any sane sailor, to say nothing of any decent human being, should agree is a good thing - simultaneously we have Mr. Angry Man spewing hatred of blacks, homosexuals, Europeans, Canadians, and probably a few other groups I've forgotten (his bigotry is so wide-ranging that it's difficult to keep up). :(

 

Mr Angry Man hatred has a bit of an equal opportunities feel to it: he seems to hate everyone. Including most of SA.

In my experience that's usually a sign of someone who hates themself.  Which just makes him even more inclusive

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I don't know if this is inappropriate to post here but I saw the interview with Karen Harris and thought it was pretty great! My college (University of Chicago) sailing team is working with Jackson Park Yacht Club to purchase a fleet of 420s jointly. While we used to sail out of Columbia Yacht Club, the financial challenges that posed became unrealistic for the team. In order to make the team sustainable in the long run, we've decided to move our team closer to campus at Jackson Park. We recruit and develop sailors, as well as train people who have never been in boats before - this summer, one of my freshman teammates who hadn't sailed before joining the team sailed a return delivery for the Mac race. If anyone would be willing to help support our club in our mission to create lifelong sailors and a competitive Midwestern collegiate sailing team, we've put together a crowdfunding page here: http://c-fund.us/e8m. Thanks!

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The University of South Florida also has a sailing team that includes a lot of sailing newbies along with a handful of experienced racers. IDK if any AAs have participated, but there have been Latinos and Asians actively participating. AAs are certainly welcome! The head coach is Olympic Gold Medalist Allison Jolly, she does a fantastic job teaching and coaching the sailors into a competitive team. I think she's the longest tenured coach in the entire athletic dept. 

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Many people talk about increasing diversity in sailing; but this is the story of Jon Holt, a man who walked the walk and actually did something about it. Well done to him and his crew!

 

 

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3 hours ago, Svanen said:

Bizarre that while on this thread we have people promoting inclusion in sailing - which any sane sailor, to say nothing of any decent human being, should agree is a good thing - simultaneously we have Mr. Angry Man spewing hatred of blacks, homosexuals, Europeans, Canadians, and probably a few other groups I've forgotten (his bigotry is so wide-ranging that it's difficult to keep up). :(

 

And he was promptly smacked down for his bullshit.

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7 hours ago, Svanen said:

Many people talk about increasing diversity in sailing; but this is the story of Jon Holt, a man who walked the walk and actually did something about it. Well done to him and his crew!

 

 

Good shows and spotlight on what this is all about.  I can show these to my students and they can see there are students who look like them being active participants in the outdoors and sailing.  Thanks for the post!

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6 hours ago, Geff said:

Good shows and spotlight on what this is all about. I can show these to my students and they can see there are students who look like them being active participants in the outdoors and sailing. Thanks for the post!

You're most welcome!

What I liked most about this program was that it required the kids to earn their place on the team, through fundraising, fixing up old boats, and training. Sure, they required some adult support and guidance; but they can rightly feel proud of their accomplishment, without feeling that it was just handed to them.

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1 hour ago, AJ Oliver said:

Bill Pinkney led the way too.

Absolutely.

Anyone who doesn't know his story, a video for you:

 

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25 minutes ago, nolatom said:

We need to get everyone the chance to get out sailing and see if (that) they like it.

Agreed!

Sailing is not for everyone: no sport or activity is. But we should all work to ensure that it is accessible to all people - regardless of race, religion, physical or mental disabilities, gender, age, or economic background - and that everyone is aware of the opportunities. Besides just being the right thing to do, it's in our self-interest.

I'm okay with special clubs or programs specifically targeting marginalized groups; sometimes that is required to get the ball rolling and build a critical mass. But ideally that will be unnecessary as all YCs and sailing schools eventually become fully accessible.

The key is to simply welcome and relate to people as fellow sailors, without focusing on individual circumstances or limitations.

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37 minutes ago, Svanen said:

Agreed!

Sailing is not for everyone: no sport or activity is. But we should all work to ensure that it is accessible to all people - regardless of race, religion, physical or mental disabilities, gender, age, or economic background - and that everyone is aware of the opportunities. Besides just being the right thing to do, it's in our self-interest.

I'm okay with special clubs or programs specifically targeting marginalized groups; sometimes that is required to get the ball rolling and build a critical mass. But ideally that will be unnecessary as all YCs and sailing schools eventually become fully accessible.

The key is to simply welcome and relate to people as fellow sailors, without focusing on individual circumstances or limitations.

Right on!  The one thing I am learning as I delve into this more, working with those on the advocacy side of the Outdoor Industry, is that just because we love (insert outdoor sport here), we can't assume that everyone in our diverse country will want to like it.  As you said though, and is most important, "Sailing (or whatever outdoor sport) is not for everyone: no sport or activity is. But we should all work to ensure that it is accessible to all people - regardless of race, religion, physical or mental disabilities, gender, age, or economic background - and that everyone is aware of the opportunities. Besides just being the right thing to do, it's in our self-interest."

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The Corinthian movement of the late 19th century is what killed off any acceptance of black American sailors in American yachting. Great black sailors from other countries (Bahamas etc) have been racing uninterrupted for generations. American black racing sailors were most often professionals. They were very purposely left out of the game with the change to amateurism.

Coincidentally I think it is worth noting that the America's Cup was defended repeatedly by a Scotsman with a Scandinavian crew...

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2 hours ago, Svanen said:

Absolutely.

Anyone who doesn't know his story, a video for you:

 

I met him once many years ago. Good guy.

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By "self-interest", I don't just mean that our sport and clubs will benefit from wider public support. While that is accurate, and important, it's not the entire story.

A bigger benefit is that meaningful exposure to people of very different backgrounds and circumstances helps us to realize the falseness of the barriers we all construct. We learn that there is no "us" and "them"; there is just people, trying to do their best. And in that process, we become bigger, more caring people ourselves, and our lives are enriched.

The above may sound a bit Pollyannaish, but in my own experience it has been true.

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On 2018-02-18 at 3:55 PM, Moosebone13 said:

Jackson park yacht club is cool as hell 

one of the few yacht clubs that I have been to that is trying to be inclusive rather than exclusive 

get people ,all people, in the door and have some fun

great breakfast as well!!

I’d put Ashbridges Bay YC up here in that category as well. Very diverse, welcoming and generally chill. Also seems to be skewing younger these days; and by younger I mean mid-30’s/40’s vs. 70’s...

I’d join if I didn’t happen to be able to throw a stone at National from my window.

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1 hour ago, Svanen said:

 

 

I agree about the vibe at ABYC. It's a nice club.

National also is welcoming, and very supportive of diversity. The club hosts both Broad Reach Foundation and Disabled Sailing Association of Ontario. Quite a few rainbow flags on NYC boats, too. It's the opposite of the stuffy, exclusionary YC stereotype.

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Always impressed by the disabled sailors. Must take balls of steel to make your way around the harbour/lake blowing through a straw. 

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Yep: super-inspiring, high quality people. And they are not necessary restricted to harbours and lakes, either (see below).

 

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9 hours ago, Svanen said:

Yep: super-inspiring, high quality people. And they are not necessary restricted to harbours and lakes, either (see below).

 

Wow. 

Now why haven’t more media picked-up on this? 

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Not to be too crass about it, but good relations with the community, and the minority communities in particular, can 

come in mighty handy when it's time to re-do your lease with local pols. 

And of course, community sailing is also simply the right thing to do. 

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