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You're a pro, I'm not.

If I was using it all the time I'd buy a good one too but the last Stanley I bought (with S/S tank) was $25 and that was several years ago. :D

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2 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

You're a pro, I'm not.

If I was using it all the time I'd buy a good one too but the last Stanley I bought (with S/S tank) was $25 and that was several years ago. :D

Valid point.  My main bone to pick with you on that one was a lot more cost for little improvement due to killing em, the CT26 is a tank, really a good example of buy once-cry once.  The reduced exposure to toxic dusts and other features is valuable(or should be) to many.  The crazy part is that they are more money now on craigslist beat to shit than I paid for my new one, I can't believe it!  So if you had a multi-year project to do you could probably do a little better than breaking even at the end, not many electrical appliances do that these days!  I could have sold my flogged to death one for a hundred dollars more than I paid at least. 

 

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I watched with trepidation after I gave my Dad my Yankee #131 to run some screws into the hinges of a gate we were installing. It took some getting used to them and my Dad nearly disembowled himself with it before I took it away from him. Slotted screws were a challenge but Phillips were not too bad. I probably still have a few scars and at one shop we came up with the term 'Yankee Seppuku' after a kid did a number on himself with one.

 

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On ‎3‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 8:30 PM, jgbrown said:

They look good on paper but... In person I played with one and wasn't all that impressed.  Rather have a Midi if size is an issue or a CT26 if you can live with a little bigger vac.  Midi is hardly bigger, and has wheels.  Plus you can still stack systainers on top and lock them just like that one. 

It was interesting that when my son and I got the Mirkas he looks at its case and walks across and clips it right onto his Festool vacuum, the cases are essentially the same. I don't have a festool vacuum and while he loves his I have personally had a few Fein vacuums over the years and they have not lasted and to me are way too heavy, even empty. We have a bunch of the Feins in the shop currently but to be honest I tend to pass them up for the big shopvac which will beat them all in a suck off and you can get bags for most vacuums these days so disposal is the same. The lack of the automatic switching when using a power sander with it is also a non issue as I use a device I bought at Sears many years ago for $20 that gives that function to any tool. We use one at present to turn on a dust collector that services a router table, 12" disc sander and a spindle sander so as soon as you turn on any of the tools the dust collector comes on. Of course I also use a remote with the shopvac for other uses. I don't sweat it if a remote gets lost, the whole remote is less than $10 so we have a few of them of different brands so we have different RF frequencies. They rarely remain lost and usually show up at some point.

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A $20 HEPA filter goes a long way in making the cheap ones last longer but you're still gonna hit a ~2000 hour life limit on a consumer-grade motor that's unserviceable. 

I can live with that as a non-pro.

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7 hours ago, IStream said:

A $20 HEPA filter goes a long way in making the cheap ones last longer but you're still gonna hit a ~2000 hour life limit on a consumer-grade motor that's unserviceable. 

I can live with that as a non-pro.

In a shop I used to work in 30 years ago before you could buy all these fancy high buck European vacuums we had a big, 16 gallon I think, black craftsman vacuum  with the 2 1/2" hose, it was loud and there were no bags back then and over the years a sucession of Fein vacuums have come and gone and Linda (named after a porn star of the day) has outlasted them all and will still out suck them all like her namesake. I still stop over there most Fridays after work for dark and stormys and Linda is still there doing her job so I disagree about them not lasting.( like her namesake she has not been treated well either but comes back for more)  I personally no longer have an expensive one but have about 5 or 6 Rigid in an assortment of sizes  and 1 shopvac as well as an 18v Ryobi wet vac and they all do just fine. Of the fancy ones I have only owned Fein and am unimpressed with longevity and they are too heavy. Almost all vacs have disposable bags now and washable pleated filters are available and  rigid has mufflers available. I still use the hoses from the Feins though as I kept them when I shit canned the vacs. The biggest problem I find with the cheaper ones is they don't gasket them and put decent latches on them so before the days of bags when the filter got clogged they would blow all the dust back out but not such a problem now.

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This gadget for silicone normally. Works amazingly for epoxy fillets. I've done it the old school way, put bog in, use a bit of pipe or shaped filler knife etc, then scrape off the excess. I just piped in the filler, and ran that doohickey along, job done. Wipe it off, then do the next fillet, it scrapes the sides as it goes along and leaves a mint finish.

$8 

winner 

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On 3/28/2018 at 2:44 PM, Steve said:

In a shop I used to work in 30 years ago before you could buy all these fancy high buck European vacuums we had a big, 16 gallon I think, black craftsman vacuum  with the 2 1/2" hose, it was loud and there were no bags back then and over the years a sucession of Fein vacuums have come and gone and Linda (named after a porn star of the day) has outlasted them all and will still out suck them all like her namesake. I still stop over there most Fridays after work for dark and stormys and Linda is still there doing her job so I disagree about them not lasting.( like her namesake she has not been treated well either but comes back for more)  I personally no longer have an expensive one but have about 5 or 6 Rigid in an assortment of sizes  and 1 shopvac as well as an 18v Ryobi wet vac and they all do just fine. Of the fancy ones I have only owned Fein and am unimpressed with longevity and they are too heavy. Almost all vacs have disposable bags now and washable pleated filters are available and  rigid has mufflers available. I still use the hoses from the Feins though as I kept them when I shit canned the vacs. The biggest problem I find with the cheaper ones is they don't gasket them and put decent latches on them so before the days of bags when the filter got clogged they would blow all the dust back out but not such a problem now.

The fein vacuums are disappointing. For a company that does so much so well, they suck.  

Like 3m spray adhesive.  

Head scratcher why it can't be better but it isn't. 

 

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22 hours ago, Alcatraz5768 said:

This gadget for silicone normally. Works amazingly for epoxy fillets. I've done it the old school way, put bog in, use a bit of pipe or shaped filler knife etc, then scrape off the excess. I just piped in the filler, and ran that doohickey along, job done. Wipe it off, then do the next fillet, it scrapes the sides as it goes along and leaves a mint finish.

$8 

winner 

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Got a link?  I've never seen one with replaceable tips, and want one. I have a socket set I use for fillets.(don't laugh, 6" extension and smooth chrome sockets up to 1.5" in a cheap set will do any size fillet you want).  They suck in corners though.  

 

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55 minutes ago, jgbrown said:

Got a link?  I've never seen one with replaceable tips, and want one. I have a socket set I use for fillets.(don't laugh, 6" extension and smooth chrome sockets up to 1.5" in a cheap set will do any size fillet you want).  They suck in corners though.  

 

I think it was the Danish Youtube guy that I saw using a plastic spoon and it seemed to work quite well. The economics seem good too.

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Big tongue depressors work well but they leave a strip along both edges that has to be cleaned up separately.

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I have used all of those things and done hundreds of meters of fillets, and this thing is absolutely the best invention ever. Simply run along, wipe the excess on a bit of cardboard or similar, and continue. no cleanup of the fillet at all. It nearly makes them fun, like cleaning windows with a battery window cleaner nearly makes it fun.

I bought my kit at Bunnings,but i live in NZ so i have no idea where you are from.

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2 hours ago, Alcatraz5768 said:

I have used all of those things and done hundreds of meters of fillets, and this thing is absolutely the best invention ever. Simply run along, wipe the excess on a bit of cardboard or similar, and continue. no cleanup of the fillet at all. It nearly makes them fun, like cleaning windows with a battery window cleaner nearly makes it fun.

I bought my kit at Bunnings,but i live in NZ so i have no idea where you are from.

Do you have a brand name?  I've found a few but they are all non-replaceable tips.  I'm in Canada, but I want a few so even ordering overseas would do.  On an unrelated note(out of scope of the thread) http://www.srpglassrestoration.com/systems.htm

Is about the coolest fucking tool ever for cleaning windows. 

The first run I did with the tool was on all the windows on the bridge of a Princess cruise ship as a demo.  We did 2 decks worth the next week, I'm pretty sure the company I was subbing for charged over 30k$ for that first job and got contracts for many more ships out of it.  Fucking thing kept losing pressure and I was sweating like crazy trying to troubleshoot without looking like there was a problem, the captain and about 2/3 of the bridge crew were all lined up inside watching the magic happen, wish they'd let me start on some out of the way windows first.  Turned out to be a weak power receptacle, and switching to two circuits fixed the problem but I was nearly crapping my pants when it kept popping off the glass.  When the first window was finished and rinsed there was a solid round of applause, I guess they were tired of staring out shitty stained glass at sea.  I couldn't believe how well it worked.  We coated the windows with nanoshell after, one of the early high quality hydrophobic coatings, wipe it on, mist with water and as soon as the water fell off the window was dry.  Looked like magic.   I have thought about buying one, and doing a tour of coastal towns around here giving every business near the ocean one window for free.  I reckon I'd make a mint, but haven't come up with the 5 grand to buy one yet.  

It vacuums itself onto the glass, and can grind out even significant scratches relatively quickly.  Using the wide pad it polishes a glass window in about 3 minutes removing rust, light scratches.   It sprays water around the outside and produces a constant vacuum so it actually sucks itself right onto the window.   It uses cerium oxide which you can run on a felt pad on a buffer, it chemically reacts with the glass as well as far as I understand, to produce a absolutely smooth surface.  On a buffer it's slow and messy and hard work but with the huge pressure from the vaccum system it's literally a matter of guiding it around the window once, and even the worst stained/messed up windows are now immaculate sheets of glass where water beads off perfectly.   It's fascinating to watch from inside and really fun to use.  

 

 

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6 hours ago, hard aground said:

I think it was the Danish Youtube guy that I saw using a plastic spoon and it seemed to work quite well. The economics seem good too.

 

4 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Big tongue depressors work well but they leave a strip along both edges that has to be cleaned up separately.

Both of these are OK, but nowhere near as good as a quality socket on an extension, because it keeps a much more consistent shape.  Stainless spoons work better and are cheap too, I keep a few around with varying shapes for doing dow 795/sika on Meridian pilothouse windows(they use a HUGE width of sealant, stupid large).  Tongue depressors are fine if you want a little radius, but mostly I use a 1-1/4 or 1-1/2"socket.   The ball bearing on a stick type tools are slightly better still(and handle corners best).   Either is fine in a pinch for DIY, but if someone says an 8$ tool beats them, I want to try it.    

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16 hours ago, jgbrown said:

Got a link?  I've never seen one with replaceable tips, and want one. I have a socket set I use for fillets.(don't laugh, 6" extension and smooth chrome sockets up to 1.5" in a cheap set will do any size fillet you want).  They suck in corners though.  

 

find it on amazon

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073Y8GMPP/ref=psdc_553140_t2_B075T1GT76

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http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/caulking-tools-kit-0641017p.html#srp

Just ordered one of these to try.  Doesn't look as nice but I'm going to have a play with it and see if I want to import some of the better ones you guys have got.

After two days of shopping and bargaining it's starting to look like a proper shop again.   Building a Frankenstein compressor rig at the moment I'll post pictures of once the hydraulic shop finishes building me some short air lines.  It's a 5.5-6.5 CFM oil lubed compressor(with good duty cycle) on a cart with a 6-7CFM dual cylinder aluminum compressor on top(with 60% duty cycle).  Cart actually tips and moves better with the second one on top. Both have double fittings so they're getting tied together with a one way valve and a custom line, then I'll have a single cart that gives me a choice of 3 dedicated lines with: well filtered air at 13.5CFM for spraying, oil free air @ 6 CFM with just a basic water trap(staple gun on upholstery, glue sprayer) or potentially oily air at either 5.5 or 11.5CFM(rivet gun, regular air tools) and it'll run off either 1 or 2 15A breakers depending on air requirements.    Comes in at same capacity, 20% less weight, 1/2 the cost of a 100% duty cycle 7CFM compressor, 3 years of warranty on the oiled, 4 on the oil-less.  The oiled compressor should take most of the load with the oil-less kicking in when demand is high, but staying under duty cycle limits(I think) After I play with it for a bit I might change the pressure switch on the top one to kick in and out lower. 

 

 

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Used my Weller portable soldering iron on board today and thought about this thread.  These things are just great.  Works as a soldering iron and a hot knife.  Heats up in seconds 

 

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On 3/22/2018 at 2:25 AM, jgbrown said:

Flexzilla air hose.  Or any of the super flexible no memory air hoses.  

 

We have had a couple of them 

they each lasted less than a year 

the second one was tossed after an accidental discovery

part of it was dangled into a half filled with water five gallon bucket.

the hose was bleeding air through it’s walls.

in fact , as we dipped the entire hose in the water it pretty much aerated the bucket from every immersed inch.

no wonder our compressors kept cycling!!!We had been  searching for the air leak for months.

we loved the light weight but no way we can waste compressed air 24 /7 

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Gouvernail said:

We have had a couple of them 

they each lasted less than a year 

the second one was tossed after an accidental discovery

part of it was dangled into a half filled with water five gallon bucket.

the hose was bleeding air through it’s walls.

in fact , as we dipped the entire hose in the water it pretty much aerated the bucket from every immersed inch.

no wonder our compressors kept cycling!!!We had been  searching for the air leak for months.

we loved the light weight but no way we can waste compressed air 24 /7 

 

 

The Flexzilla brand or a knock off?  I had really bad luck with one of the knock off brands(the thin walled with visible braid) but the Flexzilla ones have been good to me, other than cuts caused by idiots they have been leak free from the day I bought them until they were stolen.  The easy repair was a bonus(push on fitting kits from the manufacturer, replace a cut section in about 2 minutes).  There's another brand I'm trying out this year as well, supposed to be a bit tougher and I like the fittings even better  but not quite as flexible. I bought end connectors and made myself a 6' flexzilla whip for the end with a swivel fitting on both connections.  I'm really liking the combination so far. 

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On 5/26/2018 at 7:51 PM, Plumbean said:

Used my Weller portable soldering iron on board today and thought about this thread.  These things are just great.  Works as a soldering iron and a hot knife.  Heats up in seconds 

 

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I like the Weller ones, but they don't take the good heat gun attachments.  They have the best trigger system and better soldering tips. I wish the better ones used the same trigger.

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7 hours ago, jgbrown said:

The Flexzilla brand or a knock off?  I had really bad luck with one of the knock off brands(the thin walled with visible braid) but the Flexzilla ones have been good to me, other than cuts caused by idiots they have been leak free from the day I bought them until they were stolen.  The easy repair was a bonus(push on fitting kits from the manufacturer, replace a cut section in about 2 minutes).  There's another brand I'm trying out this year as well, supposed to be a bit tougher and I like the fittings even better  but not quite as flexible. I bought end connectors and made myself a 6' flexzilla whip for the end with a swivel fitting on both connections.  I'm really liking the combination so far. 

We bought the brand name ones... have you tried dipping one in a bucket of water?? 

Had we not seen the bubbles we would still be using them 

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9 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

We bought the brand name ones... have you tried dipping one in a bucket of water?? 

Had we not seen the bubbles we would still be using them 

Nope but I'll try that this week on both lines. I have to reconfigure my valving and filters so I'll do it after that.  I will be displeased if that's the case.  I know my old line didn't leak even after a couple years because the compressor would sit all night without losing pressure after shutdown.

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9 hours ago, jgbrown said:

Nope but I'll try that this week on both lines. I have to reconfigure my valving and filters so I'll do it after that.  I will be displeased if that's the case.  I know my old line didn't leak even after a couple years because the compressor would sit all night without losing pressure after shutdown.

Who knows?! I may have bought the worst one they ever built...

or maybe the solvents in Awlgrip ate the hose ... although we didnt use that hose to run the sorsyguns, it did supply the big stinking filter from which we drew spraygun air. ... so it sat on the floor by the exhaust fan while we sprayed a lot of boats. 

Or we just bought a bad section.. that can happen to the best of suppliers 

 

if you dont find any keaks i will go buy another 

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After 38 years of working in , under and around boats the things i treasure the most are my knee pads . They become more valuable to me every day .

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at office depot I picked up an 8 slotted expanding file folder, i read somewhere, maybe here,  to use it to store sandpaper..

I've got a 1/4 sheet and an orbital,   the file folder fits 8x11 sheets no problem and I have one slot for  partial sheets..   I got rid of 8 carboard sandpaper boxes..

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On 6/8/2018 at 2:40 PM, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

at office depot I picked up an 8 slotted expanding file folder, i read somewhere, maybe here,  to use it to store sandpaper..

I've got a 1/4 sheet and an orbital,   the file folder fits 8x11 sheets no problem and I have one slot for  partial sheets..   I got rid of 8 carboard sandpaper boxes..

it's called a 6 pocket cascading file tote,  it's plastic, so no worries about falling apart

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14 minutes ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

it's called a 6 pocket cascading file tote, 

Easy for you to say.

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1 hour ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

it's called a 6 pocket cascading file tote,  it's plastic, so no worries about falling apart

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You can buy this type of tote already loaded with 50 sheets of sandpaper.  Don't know who manufactures it, but it is available at Canadian Tire.  http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-50-piece-assorted-sandpaper-set-0542281p.html#srp  Of course you wait until they go on sale for $10.

The sandpaper is pretty much garbage, but you don't buy it for that.

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18 hours ago, 12 metre said:

You can buy this type of tote already loaded with 50 sheets of sandpaper.  Don't know who manufactures it, but it is available at Canadian Tire.  http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-50-piece-assorted-sandpaper-set-0542281p.html#srp  Of course you wait until they go on sale for $10.

The sandpaper is pretty much garbage, but you don't buy it for that.

mine rang up for less than $8 us..       wish 3m or some other abrasive manuf.  would do that down here, haven't seen anything like you mentioned..

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