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On 9/5/2019 at 7:41 AM, Horn Rock said:

^^ Douche bag can't even write original copy for his own blog. This is lifted from here.

Link?

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53 minutes ago, RobG said:

Link?

It's somewhere back in this thread. To be fair it's his own prose he's copying.

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4 hours ago, Horn Rock said:

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The Dolphin shows how much more interesting a design contest is, than a boring one design circuit. That's an in-fucking-disputable fact - period, end of line, full fucking stop.

You are so right there, HR.

Is TOR still a thing?

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1 hour ago, Horn Rock said:

What's TOR Sailbydate?

Exactly! What a fuck up. There's been a bit of debate about its demise. I reackon the move to OD was a major contributor.

The Ocean Race (TOR) used to be the Whitbread and then the Volvo Ocean Race.

Looks terminal to me. So sad. Never mind.

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Will this thread just die. We have a build up and event that is going to so interesting, that this series will fade into the ether imo

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5 minutes ago, Rskiff said:

Will this thread just die. We have a build up and event that is going to so interesting, that this series will fade into the ether imo

Of course, let's not talk about it here.  Let's go to another thread dominated by a GPFail shill.

See you there.

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So Team New Zealand launch their boat, invite a thousand people and get the media to shove their cameras in the cockpit and have a good rummage around.

 

Anyone wanna talk about their attitude toward providing coverage for the Americas Cup?

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Oh let's see how Marseille goes and who gets to divvy up the prize, then see if interest sustains after September. 

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8 hours ago, Rskiff said:

Will this thread just die. 

Your post will definitely kill it, especially if you get angry about it

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11 hours ago, Forourselves said:

The AC50's/ F50's are the past, they're relics. The AC75 is the future. 

The SailGP boats are as fast today as they were yesterday and, like with the AC75’s too, are on an up-kitting development path. All good!

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4 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

The SailGP boats are as fast today as they were yesterday and, like with the AC75’s too, are on an up-kitting development path. All good!

Ha.smaller sails is not up kitting really.

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23 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

The SailGP boats are as fast today as they were yesterday and, like with the AC75’s too, are on an up-kitting development path. All good!

"Upkitting"? Really? They're not new, they're not the cutting edge of technology, they're not revolutionary like they used to be, they're not unique, and they're no longer the fastest sailboat on the planet. yesterdays AC75 launch was more exciting than anything SailGP has done so far. Wouldn't be surprised if Russell abandons SailGP back to the Americas Cup. 

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I dont mind really but all the people who want the thread to dwindle and die off, you DO realize that every time you post a "FailGP" or photo of another class of boat, people see a new entry in the index or a boldface thread heading and go look and blather on...right? Like I am. Just wondered what the new post was then felt I might as well say something...lol

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1 hour ago, NeedAClew said:

I dont mind really but all the people who want the thread to dwindle and die off, you DO realize that every time you post a "FailGP" or photo of another class of boat, people see a new entry in the index or a boldface thread heading and go look and blather on...right?

Foryourselves is pretty good at placing the circus in front of the TNZ thread. :)

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2 hours ago, Stingray~ said:

The SailGP boats are as fast today as they were yesterday and, like with the AC75’s too, are on an up-kitting development path. All good!

The F50 is the fastest present racing sailboat, broke the 50 kts barrier while racing, will improve again.

The AC75 will be even faster, compare with the F50, or provide us a demolition derby show. All good :)

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For goodness sake there is PLENTY of room for the F50's and the AC. Still plenty of sailors, designers etc looking for a job. And just watching both beats doing quite a few other things.

Sit back and enjoy them both for what they are. 

 

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1 hour ago, Tornado-Cat said:

Foryourselves is pretty good at placing the circus in front of the TNZ thread. :)

I don't really give a rats ass what thread is at the top. We all know the TNZ thread is far more important.

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5 hours ago, Forourselves said:

Wouldn't be surprised if Russell abandons SailGP back to the Americas Cup. 

Should save this for 2021 poll: where would Russell go?

Presumably not NYYC.

Do you want him back in NZ?

Maybe another all-American team except for Russell, who can get a syndicate together for S+S 2.0?

China?

Japan?

 

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1 hour ago, NeedAClew said:

where would Russell go?

He'll stick with Lazza unless booted. Billionaires don't grow on trees.

1 hour ago, NeedAClew said:

Do you want him back in NZ?

Nope.

1 hour ago, NeedAClew said:

China?Japan?

A possibility.

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Ibuki Koizumi helming the G32! Ibuki sails with Leo Takahashi on the 49er and was the skipper for Team Japan during the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup in Bermuda 2017!

Wonder if Outteridge will be continuing with Japan? Maybe switching to the AC?

 

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6 hours ago, NeedAClew said:

Should save this for 2021 poll: where would Russell go?

Presumably not NYYC.

Do you want him back in NZ?

Maybe another all-American team except for Russell, who can get a syndicate together for S+S 2.0?

China?

Japan?

 

China.

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Forourselves is a bit lazy at pushing this thread up, so an interesting video to make us wait for Sailgp Marseille: How to gybe in 45 kts of wind.

 

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2 hours ago, Tornado-Cat said:

Forourselves is a bit lazy at pushing this thread up, so an interesting video to make us wait for Sailgp Marseille: How to gybe in 45 kts of wind.

 

FYI, no ones waiting for SailGP Marseille

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Memo - From Russell Coutts, cc Larry Ellison, to all SailGP crew and employees.  Subject: Discussion of the recently launched AC75's.

Please refrain from any discussion whatsoever about the recently launched AC75's, especially the very cool Te Aihe. Crew and employees heard discussing these boats or prospective employment opportunities in AC36, will have their SailGP contract immediately terminated.

Regards

Russell

 

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6 minutes ago, Horn Rock said:

Memo - From Russell Coutts, cc Larry Ellison, to all SailGP crew and employees.  Subject: Discussion of the recently launched AC75's.

Please refrain from any discussion whatsoever about the recently launched AC75's, especially the very cool Te Aihe. Crew and employees heard discussing these boats or prospective employment opportunities in AC36, will have their SailGP contract immediately terminated.

Regards

Russell

 

^^ Why do you put in Russells' mouth what he did not say but that you found in the prot ? :)

A Competitor shall not participate, without the prior written approval of COR/D, in any non-Event regatta that is presented in a way that is or could be perceived

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15 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said:

A Competitor shall not participate, without the prior written approval of COR/D, in any non-Event regatta that is presented in a way that is or could be perceived

Approvals are obviously going out as Burling, Tuke, Jensen and I'm sure others have been in numerous other regattas. Is Jensen the only one doing GP and AC36?

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3 minutes ago, Horn Rock said:

Approvals are obviously going out as Burling, Tuke, Jensen and I'm sure others have been in numerous other regattas. Is Jensen the only one doing GP and AC36?

No, he you read  correctly the prot they mentiion "competitor", not crew ;)

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GD, Burling, Ashby and others like and support SailGP. 

ForMyself is FullOfShit, still!

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36 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

GD, Burling, Ashby and others like and support SailGP. 

ForMyself is FullOfShit, still!

Link? But really, I don't care whether they support it or not. Pete supports the Vodafone Warriors (NRL) and they can't even make the playoffs! So each to their own. This isn't about who they personally support, because they can support who they like! At the end of the day, Pete, Glenn, their contracts ended after Bermuda, and they no doubt would've been offered huge contracts to compete in SailGP, but didn't. Only an idiot wouldn't offer those guys a ridiculous amount to head a fledgling regatta like SailGP, so you can guarantee Russell made a play for those guys, but they chose to stay where they were. You can support who you like, but actions speak louder than words.

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32 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

GD, Burling, Ashby and others like and support SailGP. 

ForMyself is FullOfShit, still!

Everyone is saying it!

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40 minutes ago, Forourselves said:

. Only an idiot wouldn't offer those guys a ridiculous amount to head a fledgling regatta like SailGP, so you can guarantee Russell made a play for those guys, but they chose to stay where they were. 

And it sure would have increased the revenge content of the spite cup.

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1 hour ago, Stingray~ said:

GD, Burling, Ashby and others like and support SailGP. 

....

GD? Not a fucking chance in hell!

Neither will he ever like and support Prickray...

 

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1 hour ago, Fiji Bitter said:

GD? Not a fucking chance in hell!

Neither will he ever like and support Prickray...

 

In this article GD was "mum on the matter".

https://www.sailingillustrated.com/single-post/2018/10/17/SailGP-NZ-Herald-takes-a-shot-at-Larry-Ellisons-NZL-based-company-Core-Composites-calls-it-a-Kiwi-funded-bid-to-take-the-wind-out-of-the-sails-of-the-next-Americas-Cup

Interestingly, while Larry is injecting money in NZ for Sailgp most kiwi posters here keep hating his event, and while we know that many Southernspars employees post their spite we don't see one from Core defending Sailgp here.

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59 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said:

In this article GD was "mum on the matter".

https://www.sailingillustrated.com/single-post/2018/10/17/SailGP-NZ-Herald-takes-a-shot-at-Larry-Ellisons-NZL-based-company-Core-Composites-calls-it-a-Kiwi-funded-bid-to-take-the-wind-out-of-the-sails-of-the-next-Americas-Cup

Interestingly, while Larry is injecting money in NZ for Sailgp most kiwi posters here keep hating his event, and while we know that many Southernspars employees post their spite we don't see one from Core defending Sailgp here.

Ya know, perhaps if Russell and/ or Larry had come out publicly when it was first announced and said "we want to be an event associated with the Americas Cup and acknowledge that SailGP would not exist without the technology and innovation which originated from the Americas Cup.

We at SailGP wish to congratulate Emirates Team NZ on their Americas Cup win in Bermuda and look to work closely with Americas Cup Management, as well as future Americas Cup Management Organisations  to ensure sustainability of both circuits and Sailing as a whole" 

If you look at it, SailGP's tagline is: Sailing Re-imagined and re-defined. If you compare the AC to SailGP, which one has really re-imagined sailing?

This:

F50FoilFront.jpg

Or this:

ETNZ-AC76-Launch-Live-Sail-Die-9.jpg?fit

 

 

 

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Larry succeeded, he will never again lose a yacht race.

Every boat in the race is his!

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1 hour ago, Tornado-Cat said:

In this article GD was "mum on the matter".

You obviously tried to find a quote from Dalts liking FailGP, and failed. And I dare Spinray @Stingray to find a favourable quote.

And apparently you don't know that Smacker is Core's pr-manager and d_g Wussell's sweeper-upper!

Oh, and that Laurent Esquier is a smart arse, just like his Prada boss, and not universally liked by all AC players, I can tell you...

 

 

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"Core Composites spokesperson Susan Lake isn't worried about taking taxpayer money for a company owned by an American worth US$58.5 billion ($88.8b)."

That doesn't pass the pub test does it?

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6 hours ago, Stingray~ said:

GD, Burling, Ashby and others like and support SailGP. 

ForMyself is FullOfShit, still!

Of corse they do. They know they’re not in competition with it, and it builds the base of professionalism within the sport.

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27 minutes ago, Ex-yachtie said:

Of corse they do. They know they’re not in competition with it, and it builds the base of professionalism within the sport.

Of course!  But do they know what FailGP's program is for the dates the AC is on?

Can't wait to see that!

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2 hours ago, random said:

Larry succeeded, he will never again lose a yacht race.

Every boat in the race is his!

22rotk.jpg

 

3 hours ago, Forourselves said:

Ya know, perhaps if Russell and/ or Larry had come out publicly when it was first announced and said "we want to be an event associated with the Americas Cup and acknowledge that SailGP would not exist without the technology and innovation which originated from the Americas Cup.

We at SailGP wish to congratulate Emirates Team NZ on their Americas Cup win in Bermuda and look to work closely with Americas Cup Management, as well as future Americas Cup Management Organisations  to ensure sustainability of both circuits and Sailing as a whole" 

If you look at it, SailGP's tagline is: Sailing Re-imagined and re-defined. If you compare the AC to SailGP, which one has really re-imagined sailing?

This:

F50FoilFront.jpg

Or this:

ETNZ-AC76-Launch-Live-Sail-Die-9.jpg?fit

 

Larry and Rusty lose that one hand's down.

Assuming it performs as expected, and I have no doubt it will,Team NZ's Te Aihe has "re-imagined sailing."

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16 minutes ago, KiwiJoker said:

 

Larry and Rusty lose that one hand's down.

Assuming it performs as expected, and I have no doubt it will,Team NZ's Te Aihe has "re-imagined sailing."

What's that "re-imagined" sailing anyway? Don't you need water, wind, manpower, one or more hulls/boards, a stick and some form of cloth anymore for sailing?

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5 hours ago, Forourselves said:

Ya know, perhaps if Russell and/ or Larry had come out publicly when it was first announced and said "we want to be an event associated with the Americas Cup and acknowledge that SailGP would not exist without the technology and innovation which originated from the Americas Cup.

Given it it was Larry's ACs where the AC72 started it all, and his AC where the AC50s continued development, maybe you should recognise his contribution to development that resulted in the F50.

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14 minutes ago, RobG said:

Given it it was Larry's ACs where the AC72 started it all, and his AC where the AC50s continued development, maybe you should recognise his contribution to development that resulted in the F50.

Haha - that is funny. Yes. Larry got 72s foiling. /s  If not for ETNZ that would have not happened we would still be watching non-foiling cats waiting for wind to allow them to change direction.  I guess what you are saying is that history is unpredictable. Come on. Other than court battles and wing Larry had not even tried. To him it's all about cost cutting and rule manipulation. 

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59 minutes ago, Enzedel92 said:

Really wish the mods would move this thread out of AC Anarchy as GP50 IS NOT the America’s Cup

Not going to happen now that there is the ShillGP thread in MHA. 

BTW that sailing redefined/reinvented slogan they use? IIRC, LE used it in his victory speech to the assembled OTAUS masses after they won in SF.  

 

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4 hours ago, RobG said:

Given it it was Larry's ACs where the AC72 started it all, and his AC where the AC50s continued development, maybe you should recognise his contribution to development that resulted in the F50.

They have done nothing to revolutionize sailing. ETNZ introduced foiling to the AC, not Oracle. The AC72's would've been non foiling if not for the Kiwi's. Larry lost the AC, and Multi's were out. All Oracle evr did was copy what the Kiwi's had done and improve on it, just as the F50's have done. They couldn't come up with their own innovative solutions so they used the old stuff, and took a few ideas from the Kiwi's and tried to adapt them. Problem is, they still haven't got it right. 

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Yeah, but RC kept that jug of Kool-Aid in the fridge for a LOOOONG time ;)

 

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44 minutes ago, Forourselves said:

They have done nothing to revolutionize sailing. ETNZ introduced foiling to the AC, not Oracle. The AC72's would've been non foiling if not for the Kiwi's. Larry lost the AC, and Multi's were out. All Oracle evr did was copy what the Kiwi's had done and improve on it, just as the F50's have done. They couldn't come up with their own innovative solutions so they used the old stuff, and took a few ideas from the Kiwi's and tried to adapt them. Problem is, they still haven't got it right. 

 Full of s..., nothing was new, foiling existed, wing existed, cats existed, it was just improvement, adaptation, innovation for both teams.

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15 hours ago, Forourselves said:

Ya know, perhaps if Russell and/ or Larry had come out publicly when it was first announced and said "we want to be an event associated with the Americas Cup and acknowledge that SailGP would not exist without the technology and innovation which originated from the Americas Cup.

We at SailGP wish to congratulate Emirates Team NZ on their Americas Cup win in Bermuda and look to work closely with Americas Cup Management, as well as future Americas Cup Management Organisations  to ensure sustainability of both circuits and Sailing as a whole" 

If you look at it, SailGP's tagline is: Sailing Re-imagined and re-defined. If you compare the AC to SailGP, which one has really re-imagined sailing?

This:

F50FoilFront.jpg

Or this:

ETNZ-AC76-Launch-Live-Sail-Die-9.jpg?fit

 

 

 

These 2 photos together kind of reminds me of the Michael Fay/Dennis Conners1988 cup. Hopefully things work out better for the kiwis this time.

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5 hours ago, Tornado-Cat said:

 Full of s..., nothing was new, foiling existed, wing existed, cats existed, it was just improvement, adaptation, innovation for both teams.

Foiling existed but not anything like the way ETNZ  did it, I could be wrong but all foiling multi hulls prior to the tractor had two foils and the rudder/s in the water at the same time. 

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9 minutes ago, Woolfy said:

Foiling existed but not anything like the way ETNZ  did it, I could be wrong but all foiling multi hulls prior to the tractor had two foils and the rudder/s in the water at the same time. 

And this go around, we're down to two!

So a 2:1 reduction. One wonders where to next! 

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10 hours ago, RobG said:

Given it it was Larry's ACs where the AC72 started it all, and his AC where the AC50s continued development, maybe you should recognise his contribution to development that resulted in the F50.

Actually, it was Conner's AC28 defence with a hard-winged catamaran against the Big Boat  DoG Challenge in 1988 that "started it all". Ellison's dubious "contribution" was to elevate cheating to a way of life for his teams...

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31 minutes ago, Woolfy said:

Foiling existed but not anything like the way ETNZ  did it, I could be wrong but all foiling multi hulls prior to the tractor had two foils and the rudder/s in the water at the same time. 

Not to speak of foiling sailboards, foiling moths and else.

 

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9 minutes ago, Indio said:

Actually, it was Conner's AC28 defence with a hard-winged catamaran against the Big Boat  DoG Challenge in 1988 that "started it all". Ellison's dubious "contribution" was to elevate cheating to a way of life for his teams...

Sure, the Stars and Stripes catamaran was the first multi in the AC, but no lifting foils and a hard wing that was only new to the AC. BMW Oracle was the first multi in the AC with hard wing and lifting foils in AC33. You can slice and dice it as much as you want and quibble over detail, but the fact is that his money in the AC helped development of large foiling multis. BMW should also get some kudos (or blame, however you want to spin it).

Larry is an entrepreneur, an enabler. He just sets out a vision and goals and leaves it up to others to work out the best way to achieve it. To me it seems perfectly sensible to leverage the AC50 to develop the F50. And anything he'd done with foiling cats would have been characterised as a rip–off of ETNZ anyway.

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33 minutes ago, Indio said:

. Ellison's dubious "contribution" was to elevate cheating to a way of life for his teams...

He must be pretty sad with fail gp, no one to cheat except his own teams.

 

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27 minutes ago, barfy said:

He must be pretty sad with fail gp, no one to cheat except his own teams.

 

He gets #rulesredefined since no one cares or holds anyone accountable for anything they say or do and they rewrite the website verbiage at will. 

The training time handicapping to level the field, was that #defined when the teams started or did they get that #redefined for them?

 Didya notice the SGP Team USA is now some sort of "developing country" that can use other-nationality sailors?  Tom Johnson is now the trimmer. Nothing against him, but he is an Australian addition  to our "national" team. The dudes shrieking USA USA on shore and online  probably don't  care, if they notice. 

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5 hours ago, NeedAClew said:

The dudes shrieking USA USA on shore and online  probably don't  care, if they notice. 

After the San Fran win, Spithill was paraded around the US talk show circuit.  I forgot which one but after the introduction and while he was walking out, the USA USA chant went up.  Funni as.

Not only do they not care, they don't even know what is going on.

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3 hours ago, random said:

After the San Fran win, Spithill was paraded around the US talk show circuit.  I forgot which one but after the introduction and while he was walking out, the USA USA chant went up.  Funni as.

Not only do they not care, they don't even know what is going on.

you're pretty happy that glen's your skipper though hey

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41 minutes ago, inebriated said:

you're pretty happy that glen's your skipper though hey

More significantly, he's very happy to stay with a team whose ideals and principles he shares and relates to. Otherwise he'd have followed the money just as Spithill and others did and continue to do.

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1 minute ago, Indio said:

More significantly, he's very happy to stay with a team whose ideals and principles he shares and relates to. Otherwise he'd have followed the money just as Spithill and others did and continue to do.

yeah i agree

however spithill was out of a job, it's not like he just quit on oracle to go and make more money elsewhere like wussle did

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1 hour ago, inebriated said:

you're pretty happy that glen's your skipper though hey

Not my skipper.

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31 minutes ago, inebriated said:

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however spithill was out of a job, it's not like he just quit on oracle to go and make more money elsewhere like wussle did

Wussell got sidelined by Bertarelli for a year or more. A total embarrassment, but with full pay or more, with a non-disclosure agreement. When Dickson fucked up badly he got a very good deal from Ellison with a hell of a bonus.

I bet Spithill got a good deal now, and probably a bonus too if he gets to steer the boat that is, and wins.

 

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4 hours ago, Indio said:

More significantly, he's very happy to stay with a team whose ideals and principles he shares and relates to. Otherwise he'd have followed the money just as Spithill and others did and continue to do.

So he didn't follow the money to ETNZ? He's doing it for the love of sailing and because ETNZ is just such a wonderful bunch of people? Wow.

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3 hours ago, RobG said:

So he didn't follow the money to ETNZ? He's doing it for the love of sailing and because ETNZ is just such a wonderful bunch of people? Wow.

Well something has kept Glenn at etnz, and I bet not just money

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On another tack...

SailGP model: pay for crazy hot foiling cats and dashing young folk to sail them in a stadium circuit to thrill a reinvented sailing audience

And a potential rival? Premiere Sailing League: pay to use small keelboats in a stadium circuit to resuscitate sailing audiences and clubs.

As the resident legend would say, heh.

http://www.premieresailingleague.com/2019/09/04/the-pay-to-play-future-of-sailing/

 

 

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Back to the Circus.  Even the sailors know they are part of "the greatest show on earth" (original reference P. T. Barnum & Bailey's Circus). 

Phil R says he can't grizzle about scarce training because it's all for the big show...

And it's tough being on a development team. Godspeed to them all.

https://www.sail-world.com/news/221794/Soybean-or-Peanut-Oil

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On 9/8/2019 at 5:14 PM, Enzedel92 said:

Really wish the mods would move this thread out of AC Anarchy as GP50 IS NOT the America’s Cup.

 

 

I wish the Mods would completely lock this Thread ASAP.

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DG! Thought you liked SGP! Or have you turned on poor Phil? Is he on your list to have sacked? I was just quoting HIM. Can't help it if my news feed beat yours.

Need this thread so SA has fair and balanced SGP coverage. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, RobG said:

So he didn't follow the money to ETNZ? He's doing it for the love of sailing and because ETNZ is just such a wonderful bunch of people? Wow.

Precisely!! When he was first approached by Grant Dalton circa 2011, he already had a very lucrative offer from the OR-Xerox cheaters after he was instrumental in their AC33 DoG Challenge success against Alinghi. He flew over to Auckland initially on his own to check out ETNZ, before returning with his family to have a further look to see how they might feel living in Auckland for a couple of years (up to AC34). The rest is, as they say, history.

When interviewed later by Aussie media, he stated unprompted that he liked the all-inclusive culture within ETNZ and the quality of the people in the team. BUt the great family man in him was convinced to sign for less money with ETNZ because his wife said they would be very happy in Auckland.

"Wow" in-fucking-deed!! Put this in your pipe and smoke it...

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9 hours ago, Fiji Bitter said:

 

Wussell got sidelined by Bertarelli for a year or more. A total embarrassment, but with full pay or more, with a non-disclosure agreement. When Dickson fucked up badly he got a very good deal from Ellison with a hell of a bonus.

I bet Spithill got a good deal now, and probably a bonus too if he gets to steer the boat that is, and wins.

 

And he's probably getting daily reminders from the OR-Xerox cheaters about the NDA he signed  - and to keep his mouth shut about all the goings-on during AC34 - AC35.

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22 minutes ago, Indio said:

Precisely!! When he was first approached by Grant Dalton circa 2011, he already had a very lucrative offer from the OR-Xerox cheaters after he was instrumental in their AC33 DoG Challenge success against Alinghi. He flew over to Auckland initially on his own to check out ETNZ, before returning with his family to have a further look to see how they might feel living in Auckland for a couple of years (up to AC34). The rest is, as they say, history.

 When interviewed later by Aussie media, he stated unprompted that he liked the all-inclusive culture within ETNZ and the quality of the people in the team. BUt the great family man in him was convinced to sign for less money with ETNZ because his wife said they would be very happy in Auckland.

"Wow" in-fucking-deed!! Put this in your pipe and smoke it...

I did 20 minutes with glen on video after Bermuda and another one with him after the previous cup when we met at Moth Worlds.  anyone who thinks GA is primarily or even significantly motivated by money is a dumbass.

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1 hour ago, NeedAClew said:

DG! Thought you liked SGP! Or have you turned on poor Phil? Is he on your list to have sacked? I was just quoting HIM. Can't help it if my news feed beat yours.

Need this thread so SA has fair and balanced SGP coverage. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

We already have a Thread. We don't need this one AND I'd rather have unbalanced subjective SailGP Coverage without you or anyone else trolling!

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1 minute ago, dg_sailingfan said:

We already have a Thread. We don't need this one AND I'd rather have unbalanced subjective SailGP Coverage without you or anyone else trolling!

You really don’t understand the meaning of the words you use, do you. 

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4 minutes ago, Ex-yachtie said:

You really don’t understand the meaning of the words you use, do you. 

12-year-olds rarely do!

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9 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

We already have a Thread. We don't need this one AND I'd rather have unbalanced subjective SailGP Coverage without you or anyone else trolling!

That is a perfect description of the MHA thread: "Unbalanced and subjective."

Maybe you can get SA to lock it as read-only except for its curators.  Oh, but isn't that a blog? Isn't there already a famous one you could use?

Or maybe they can take any spare SGP media budget and buy you a website where you can have fantasy forums where you play all the "unique" viewers and contributors? 

SailGP #UnbalancedandSubjective got to run off and trademark that, real moneymaker.

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Why the fuck does anyone care about in which SA Forum this AC35-evolved SailGP event happens? Surely it makes no difference to that or any other event?

Seems like just a bunch of thin-skinned, conspiratorial Kiwi wankers who go on, and on and on, about it! Grow the f up ;)

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1 minute ago, Stingray~ said:

Why the fuck does anyone care about in which SA Forum this AC35-evolved SailGP event happens? Surely it makes no difference to that or any other event?

Seems like just a bunch of thin-skinned, conspiratorial Kiwi wankers who go on, and on and on, about it! Grow the f up ;)

Why? I tell you because these Kiwi Clowns then cannot troll anymore.

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