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We can learn from one part of Mexico

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Parties are not necessary

All across Mexico, political billboards are springing up and candidates are hitting the streets, as campaigning starts for elections to pick a new president, renew the congress and replace hundreds of state and local officials.

Everywhere, that is, except for one small corner of the violent western state of Michoacán, which has found a simple solution to the vote-buying and patronage which plague Mexican democracy.

The indigenous Purépecha town of Cherán threw out all political parties after a popular uprising in 2011 – and it doesn’t want them back.

“The only thing the parties have done is divide us,” said Salvador Ceja, Cherán’s communal lands commissioner. “Not just here – in the entire country.”

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My parents always said you should vote for the party, not the candidate.

I always knew they were wrong.

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12 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

My parents always said you should vote for the party, not the candidate.

I always knew they were wrong.

People who think like that shouldn't breed.

 

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59 minutes ago, Saorsa said:

People who think like that shouldn't breed.

No-one told your parents that.

Oh, wait.... you never liked Trump, didn't vote for him and don't support him.

And Clinton was worse.

Yeah, you think for yourself alright.

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38 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

No-one told your parents that.

Oh, wait.... you never liked Trump, didn't vote for him and don't support him.

And Clinton was worse.

Yeah, you think for yourself alright.

 There's always another asshole on the other side of the fence.

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Political parties are generally corrupt regardless of their left or right leanings.  The truly strong leaders have always worked well above the leaders of their parties (FDR, Reagan, Truman, even Eisenhower). That is probably why Romney didn't get elected either. 

Unfortunately in the US each party has a huge pool of money so candidates have to tow the party line in order to have enough money to get elected.

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With Trump and his gang I don't think there IS a bottom.

They sank lower than I thought was possible months ago.

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19 hours ago, Saorsa said:

Parties are not necessary

All across Mexico, political billboards are springing up and candidates are hitting the streets, as campaigning starts for elections to pick a new president, renew the congress and replace hundreds of state and local officials.

Everywhere, that is, except for one small corner of the violent western state of Michoacán, which has found a simple solution to the vote-buying and patronage which plague Mexican democracy.

The indigenous Purépecha town of Cherán threw out all political parties after a popular uprising in 2011 – and it doesn’t want them back.

“The only thing the parties have done is divide us,” said Salvador Ceja, Cherán’s communal lands commissioner. “Not just here – in the entire country.”

The linked article with the back story is interesting.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37612083

Their little militia appears to have kept a peaceful community for several years now.

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18 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

My parents always said you should vote for the party, not the candidate.

I always knew they were wrong.

 

I was raised and trained to be a good Republican, like Grandpa and Uncle Bill.  But, after Bush Jr. wrecked the economy, I started thinking for myself....

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For people born in the first 1/2 of the 20th century that attitude of voting for the party, not the man was pretty well the norm.

Still works - as demonstrated by Trump.

 

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