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Thanks to excellent advice here with regards to boatyard negotiations, installing part of some toe rail, gel coat repair and possibly a few other topics, 'Savage', (who anyone who raced in YRALIS events in the '90's and early 2000's will know the boat well) is close to making an improbable comeback. 

Breaking off her mooring in a storm, there was serious damage to the port side, with holes in the deck, coaming, cabin roof and more.  The rigging took a beating and winches were turned into scrap.  Stern rail, stanchions, toe rail, lifelines and more were all pretty messed up.  But the hull, being a balsa core Kevlar hybrid, held up well, and there was really no reason NOT to rebuild.

So, many years and a fist full of dollars later, I'm close to a relaunch.  Goal is June first.  New halyards, batteries, electronics, fuel plus a thousand and one other details are in hand.    As I get closer to launch I'll post a few pics.

 

Alan

Oh, and Espo, as a pre-emptive strike of venom in your general direction,  before you start, just shut the fuck up.  Everyone here will appreciate that.  Oh,wait....thanks for the gel coat guy recommendation.  Now you can STFU :) 

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On 4/3/2018 at 1:52 PM, 2savage said:

Thanks to excellent advice here with regards to boatyard negotiations, installing part of some toe rail, gel coat repair and possibly a few other topics, 'Savage', (who anyone who raced in YRALIS events in the '90's and early 2000's will know the boat well) is close to making an improbable comeback. 

Breaking off her mooring in a storm, there was serious damage to the port side, with holes in the deck, coaming, cabin roof and more.  The rigging took a beating and winches were turned into scrap.  Stern rail, stanchions, toe rail, lifelines and more were all pretty messed up.  But the hull, being a balsa core Kevlar hybrid, held up well, and there was really no reason NOT to rebuild.

So, many years and a fist full of dollars later, I'm close to a relaunch.  Goal is June first.  New halyards, batteries, electronics, fuel plus a thousand and one other details are in hand.    As I get closer to launch I'll post a few pics.

 

Alan

Oh, and Espo, as a pre-emptive strike of venom in your general direction,  before you start, just shut the fuck up.  Everyone here will appreciate that.  Oh,wait....thanks for the gel coat guy recommendation.  Now you can STFU :) 

No Worries Alan, I will STFU, but one last piece of and information, insure the boat this go around;)

Call Total Dollar insurance 516-833-1566 they special in marine boat insurance. 

Ask for Arthur Buhr

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Arthur is a good friend and past crew member.  And btw a superb racer and tactician.  I credit Arthur with winning the Greenwich Cup (and some perpetual thing that comes along with it) when we did the Fall Series with my least successful boat 'Vicious'.  A front had gone through and the advice 'guys, lots of tacks today' did not take away from the savvy to not get hung out to dry coming into the windward mark on a header.  Thank you Arthur.

and thank you John, thanks for zipping it :)

 

Oh and John, at least I own a boat that is worth enough to insure  :)  Are you going to the club pub opening this w/e?  If I am feeling OK I might even buy you a beer.

 

Alan

 

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51 minutes ago, 2savage said:

Arthur is a good friend and past crew member.  And btw a superb racer and tactician.  I credit Arthur with winning the Greenwich Cup (and some perpetual thing that comes along with it) when we did the Fall Series with my least successful boat 'Vicious'.  A front had gone through and the advice 'guys, lots of tacks today' did not take away from the savvy to not get hung out to dry coming into the windward mark on a header.  Thank you Arthur.

and thank you John, thanks for zipping it :)

 

Oh and John, at least I own a boat that is worth enough to insure  :)  Are you going to the club pub opening this w/e?  If I am feeling OK I might even buy you a beer.

 

Alan

 

Well that's to be determined on whether it's worth enough.:P

Probably not going to the pub opening, nobody their I want to see.:D Except for you;)

You can buy me a beer another time if you feel ok.

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By the way, looking forward to seeing The Savage floating again!

Best of luck to you!

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Seems things are going to plan.  The mast is sanded, repainted, has four new halyards and I decided to rewire everything too.  The spreaders were an issue (siezed machine screws in the end caps) so were sent off to Offshore Spars in Michigan for some TLC.   KVH are working on the mast 103AC Maxi display and my issues with the toe rail are solved and the installation with butyl tape and some woodworking clamps is doing the trick.

On track for May 31st launch date.   First major trip will be a cruise to Maine in August. 

Still little help from the yard.  At least Bob Fenton is very supportive and is offering good advice on gel coat projects. And the yard owner is now removing some of the road blocks such as 'no outside help'.  

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On 5/13/2018 at 2:46 AM, 2savage said:

Seems things are going to plan.  The mast is sanded, repainted, has four new halyards and I decided to rewire everything too.  The spreaders were an issue (siezed machine screws in the end caps) so were sent off to Offshore Spars in Michigan for some TLC.   KVH are working on the mast 103AC Maxi display and my issues with the toe rail are solved and the installation with butyl tape and some woodworking clamps is doing the trick.

On track for May 31st launch date.   First major trip will be a cruise to Maine in August. 

Still little help from the yard.  At least Bob Fenton is very supportive and is offering good advice on gel coat projects. And the yard owner is now removing some of the road blocks such as 'no outside help'.  

Is that even legal?

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OK, so it's a few days past the deadline, but looks like we launch next week once lifelines are in place and insurance requirements are satisfied (need a full survey, including rigging).  The bills continue to stack up but as I mentioned, it's not about the money, it's about past memories and future escapades.  This boat has won Key West Race Week, the Sappho Trophy, Manhasset Bay Series, American YC Series, Larchmont Race Week, City Island Cup, and too much more to remember.  It would have been a shame to let 'Savage'  die.

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I agree it will be nice to see you out there again!

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Alan,

Great to hear you are close to finally getting back in the water.

--Matt

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Bizarre thing is, they have no workers in my yard.  Not only do I have to do everything, they prevented a friend from helping with buffing the topsides saying he does not have insurance.  Finally, a person of importance at the yard suggested I get the yard next door to step the mast because the crane operator  in my yard sucks.  Well, I appreciate the sentiment but I've already paid to get my mast stepped and the guys next door wand $600 to do what I already paid for.

Would it be unreasonable to ask for a reduction in my yard fees if some work is moved to the yard next door?

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No, but I reckon I know what the response will be !!

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I would take the advise from the person of importance. It's $600 BUCKS IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS. The last think you want is the rig broken or dropped.

Good to see you at the Moose Hall yesterday 

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best of luck...and congrats...

 

slight thread drift but WLIS sailors, but does anyone know what happened to the J109 Emoticon?  I heard she punched her keel through her hull ??

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she's sitting at mcmichaels  ill be there later and let you know what I see

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19 minutes ago, 2savage said:

Get your stinkin' J109 comments off my thread!

what mackes that j109 so stinkey?

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10 hours ago, 2savage said:

Get your stinkin' J109 comments off my thread!

brain fart....

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21 hours ago, jesposito said:

I would take the advise from the person of importance. It's $600 BUCKS IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS. The last think you want is the rig broken or dropped.

Good to see you at the Moose Hall yesterday 

Looks like I'm sorted.  Survey and rig inspection booked.  Barrons will be stepping the rig, not Jack, the new owner of Fenton Marine.  Should all happen later this week.  BTW the 'person of importance' is Bob Fenton.  Good guy and straight shooter.  Misses a lot of deadlines though.  I was supposed to get finished and launched in 2015!

John, did you realize it's been over ten years since you saw me?  Maybe that's why you didn't recognize me at first at the Moose Hall?  I've had a lot of stress during that time and grew old fast!!

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4 hours ago, 2savage said:

Looks like I'm sorted.  Survey and rig inspection booked.  Barrons will be stepping the rig, not Jack, the new owner of Fenton Marine.  Should all happen later this week.  BTW the 'person of importance' is Bob Fenton.  Good guy and straight shooter.  Misses a lot of deadlines though.  I was supposed to get finished and launched in 2015!

John, did you realize it's been over ten years since you saw me?  Maybe that's why you didn't recognize me at first at the Moose Hall?  I've had a lot of stress during that time and grew old fast!!

We have all grown old fast, I like it was the scruffy beard as to why I did not recognize you

It was good to see, you and looking forward to seeing the old girl back on the water

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jeez why no pictures in this thread? 

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Yeah, pics.  And TooSavage, didn't you have some sort of Bob Evelyn product?   We need some damn pix and your phone may even have a camera.

And "jesposito," who are you and what have you done with Espo?

 

 

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Finally after twelve years, we are going back into commission!

Launching June 2018.jpg

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12 hours ago, 2savage said:

Finally after twelve years, we are going back into commission!

Launching June 2018.jpg

Mission Man!!!

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The rig is in and we get splashed today.  Engine tested ashore and fired up first time.  So long as I remembered to put all the thru hull hoses back we should be OK.  I'll take a few more pics for everyone but since I am typically directing operations my head is elsewhere.  The yard I'm at fired all the workers and the yard owner knows nothing about sailboats.  Yesterday I had to direct operations to get the rig in place and with a thru-deck rig it was a challenge.  Today should be a little less stressful. 

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Alan,

Awesome news, I'm sure you are happy and relieved.

Now the important question.  When is the first booze cruise?

--Matt

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Well, it would have been July 4th, but as I check through systems I noticed some slop in the steering and suspected the cable.  As I tightened the bolts on the quadrant the idler pulley under the pedestal just came backwards!  So, realizing I now need to unbolt the pedestal to see what's going on underneath, today I get a wrench on the securing bolts and proceeded to rip the heads of all four securing bolts. 

Time to get the drill out and drill the remains of the bolts.  So, no cruising for a while.  But the booze is flowing freely at our mooring :)

The list of remaining jobs is massive as this has turned into a major refurbishment.  Savage is now 28 years old and needs lots of TLC.  That said, the survey was clean and valuation was excellent.  I've owned this boat for 23 years now and it has depreciated just $16,500 on paper.

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Sounds like a trip to City Island is in the cards soon.

We are quite nuts, bringing boats back to life.

--Matt

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Make it happen by Larchmont Race Week.  There are a couple of funnier races now on the two Sundays that don't involve as much boathandling.  Plus you can rate almost boat-for-boat with a Viper 640 and give us a good run in the Around Execution Rocks Race.  There's an option for a slightly longer course this year if the wind is up to add G1 off Hart Island as a turning mark - it'll be good to see you back out there.

- Peter

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Hi Peter!!  Great to here from you!  How's your Dad doing?  Do you still own 'Vertigo'?

As for racing, I've hung up my sailing gloves for a while.      OPB's maybe but not Savage.  What are you doing?

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I have a great view of the mooring field from my new place and its great to see Savage out there. I'll keep an eye on her for you. Let me know when the first booze cruise is.

and hey Matt, if you need a reason to come to CI just let me know, BBQ and beach!

Peter

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5 hours ago, Kevlar Edge said:

I have a great view of the mooring field from my new place and its great to see Savage out there. I'll keep an eye on her for you. Let me know when the first booze cruise is.

and hey Matt, if you need a reason to come to CI just let me know, BBQ and beach!

Peter

You can watch it break loose from it's and then salvage it.

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8 hours ago, 2savage said:

Hi Peter!!  Great to here from you!  How's your Dad doing?  Do you still own 'Vertigo'?

As for racing, I've hung up my sailing gloves for a while.      OPB's maybe but not Savage.  What are you doing?

When you hung up the gloves did you have to use a step ladder? :D

 

 

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Alan that’s the baddest sunshade I eva saw. Whatcha doing out there?

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And can you tell me why the boat behind you right now has it’s mast down and in the water?

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Sunshades are cool no matter how they look.  (It's what they do).     I asked the launch people about the downed mast.  Apparently the owner knows about it.  I guess some people just can't keep it up! 

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yeah i meant baddast as in bad ass. yeah the guy called me for replacements sails. apparently his forestay broke, hadn't been looked at in 25years

 

 

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Time to wrap up this thread.  Although delayed maintenance continues to crop up, Savage is truly back.  Here's a pic of  a recent single handed shakedown cruise in 25 knots under #3 alone.   6.75 knots ain't bad and at the time everything was working.   Now I just have to fix the autopilot, head, port cabin lights, courtesy lights, etc etc.  Yawn.  Sheesh.  Anyway, off to Oyster bay NY for the next two nights.  At least the inverter works good so I can watch movies and get internet.

I now have four weeks to get ready for a trip to Maine.  Happy times.

 

Alan 

Savage is back.jpg

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23 hours ago, 2savage said:

Time to wrap up this thread.  Although delayed maintenance continues to crop up, Savage is truly back.  Here's a pic of  a recent single handed shakedown cruise in 25 knots under #3 alone.   6.75 knots ain't bad and at the time everything was working.   Now I just have to fix the autopilot, head, port cabin lights, courtesy lights, etc etc.  Yawn.  Sheesh.  Anyway, off to Oyster bay NY for the next two nights.  At least the inverter works good so I can watch movies and get internet.

I now have four weeks to get ready for a trip to Maine.  Happy times.

 

Alan 

Savage is back.jpg

Porn?

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