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Seven arrested during bar fracas at Volvo Ocean Race stopover at Rhode Island

Last updated 09:52, May 16 2018

VOLVO OCEAN RACE

The Volvo Ocean Race fleet docked at Newport, Rhode Island in the United States.

United States police arrested seven people linked to the Volvo Ocean Race after a rowdy night in Rhode Island during the current stopover.

The arrested included 55-year-old Australian Andrew Cape who is navigator on Peter Burling's Dutch entry Team Brunel.

Cape was arrested on charges of assaulting a police officer and disorderly conduct, according to a report in the Providence Journal on Wednesday (NZT).

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Team Brunel's Australian navigator Andrew Cape.

Cape appeared in court and pleaded no contest to the disorderly conduct charge.

The charge was filed, meaning it could be removed from court records in a year provided they faced no new charges.

The charge against Cape of assaulting a police officer was dismissed.

He was ordered to pay a US$200 contribution to Boys & Girls Clubs of Newport County.

The clubs benefited to the tune of US$1300 as the court took a measured approach to all involved.

The report said the incident started when police were called to the popular Clarke Cooke House, a bar and restaurant built in 1780 that sits on Bannister's Wharf on Rhode Island, around 1am.

The full watch of nine Newport police was called to get control of the situation. 

They found about 100 people at the scene but, according to police, several people refused to leave the building and move away from fire trucks so firefighters could go inside to reset an alarm.

The report said police alleged Cape, a veteran of six round the world races, pushed patrol officer Bradford Coyle in the chest and swore at him, saying he wasn't going anywhere.

Police said Coyle tripped while trying to get control of Cape's arm and fell on top of him onto a curb. According to police, Stefan Coppers, 36, of Amsterdam, Netherlands, then jumped on the officer's back.

When patrol officer Brittany Foster stepped in to help Coyle, Coppers turned and came at her in a threatening manner, police alleged.

Coppers had charges of assaulting a police officer, obstructing police and resisting arrest dismissed.

Police said all seven arrested were linked to the round the world race and records show several were part of the race's administration.

All of them had their disorderly conduct charges filed.

The other five who appeared in court were Simon Botes of Spain, Isabel Hall of Britain, Timothy Newton of Britain, Martin Ostrowski of Poland and Deirdre Waters of Australia.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/103939766/seven-arrested-during-bar-fracas-at-volvo-ocean-race-stopover-in-newport-rhode-island

 

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(Windin' them up here).  Just appalling bloody behavior for professionals in our sport (Handcock where are you).  There's more.

Police said the following people were also arrested after an investigation:

-Simon M. Botes, 33, of Palma De Mallorca, Spain, on a disorderly conduct charge. He was taken to Newport Hospital and later treated and released. Botes pleaded no contest to the charge, which was filed.

-Isabel Hall, 30, of London on a disorderly conduct charge. Hall pleaded no contest to the charge, which was filed. She was also ordered to make a $100 contribution to the Boys & Girls Club.

-Timothy F. Newton, 55, of Apthorpe, England, on charges of disorderly conduct, resisting arrest and assaulting Patrol Officer Matthew Sardinha. He pleaded no contest to the disorderly conduct charge, which was filed. He was also ordered to make a $300 contribution to the Boys & Girls Club. The resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer charges against Newton were dismissed.

-Martin Ostrowski, 33, of Olsztyn, Poland, on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Police said Ostrowski was taken to Newport Hospital and later treated and released. He pleaded no contest to the disorderly conduct charge, which was filed. He was also ordered to make a $200 contribution to the Boys & Girls Club. The resisting arrest charge against Ostrowski was dismissed.

-Deirdre Waters, 31, of Queensland, Australia, on a disorderly conduct charge. She pleaded no contest to the charge, which was filed. She was also ordered to make a $100 contribution to the Boys & Girls Club.

Attorney Craig Hein of Newport, the attorney for all seven who were arrested, told The Daily News on Tuesday he had no comment.

Newport police Lt. Frank Rosa said it was his understanding all the people involved in the incident were connected to the international sailing race, which is in town until May 20. He also said no police officers were injured in connection with the incident. Otherwise, Rosa referred questions to Sail Newport, the host organization for the race stopover here.

“At this point, we’re going to refrain from any comment,” Rosa said.

A call from The Daily News to a Sail Newport spokeswoman Tuesday afternoon was not immediately returned.

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20180515/newport-police-7-in-town-for-volvo-race-arrested-outside-restaurant

 

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It's already been taken care of. The Mayor, DA, police chief are all aligned. 

:lol:

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Just a little bit of sailing anarchy.

Actually sounds like the cop awarded an assault charge to explain why he fell over his own feet and landed on top of Cape. Did Coppers jump on the cop’s back, or start helping him up?

Anyone see it? Or even better, anyone got footage?

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One way to raise funds for Boys and Girls Club.

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wonder just how far away the last straw is ?

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Why were they ordered to donate to a specific club that’s seemingly unrelated to a bar scuffle? Is BGC a known kids sailing club in Newport or is it run by the cop’s sister in law?

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This Stephan Coppers?

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3 minutes ago, HFC Hunter said:

Why were they ordered to donate to a specific club that’s seemingly unrelated to a bar scuffle? Is BGC a known kids sailing club in Newport or is it run by the cop’s sister in law?

Pretty common in weathy New England small towns. Your defense attorney plays golf with the DA. The DA is friends with the Mayor. The Judge is everyone's godfather. Police chief is everyone's personal friend. 

 

They meet up. Talk about re there's no real public harm. No officers hurt. Rowdy crowd of 100 and the foreign drunks mess about with American cops. DA gets a concession to plea no contest. Mayor says donate to the charity. Judge says everyone happy? 

Not sure why this is a big deal. Not a felony charge. No victims. 

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10 minutes ago, Mid said:

wonder just how far away the last straw is ?

Maybe Cape found out the VOR is being taken over by World Sailing.

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I don't know anything about the American legal system but seems very very very light!

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2 minutes ago, SCANAS said:

I don't know anything about the American legal system but seems very very very light!

As in, those cops were let off light?

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4 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Good Australian  International representation and gender balanced. Way to go.

FIFY

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I'm not an expert on the US legal system,  but is this likely to have visa implications for any future US visits?? 

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40 minutes ago, SCANAS said:

I don't know anything about the American legal system but seems very very very light!

They would all go apeshit if it was like the Rumble in Rocky.

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1 hour ago, southerncross said:

(Windin' them up here).  Just appalling bloody behavior for professionals in our sport (Handcock where are you).  

So is Cape going to become Random's new target?

1 hour ago, southerncross said:

(-Deirdre Waters, 31, of Queensland, Australia, on a disorderly conduct charge. She pleaded no contest to the charge, which was filed. She was also ordered to make a $100 contribution to the Boys & Girls Club.

from her Linkedin

 

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Working with both Volvo Group and Volo Cars at each of the 12 Volvo Ocean Race Stopovers. 
Travelling with the race coordinating corporate hospitality, VIP guest experiences and on site operations.

 

 

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Swashbuckling returns to Volvo Ocean Race

Published on May 15th, 2018

Newport, RI (May 15, 2018) – As the Volvo Ocean Race teams prepare for the In-Port Race on May 19 and Leg 9 to start May 20, which will take the fleet across the Atlantic Ocean to Cardiff, UK, a bit of mischief has made the headlines during their USA stopover.

In contrast to the 2017-18 edition, in which the highly commercialized race has occasionally lacked transparency at times of trouble, the Providence Journal report how seven people apparently connected to the race were arrested early this morning after an incident outside the Clarke Cooke House.

https://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2018/05/15/swashbuckling-returns-volvo-ocean-race/

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Volvo Ocean Race: Apology For Ruckus Outside Clarke Cooke House

Police arrested seven people after a crowd gathered outside the Clarke Cooke House early Tuesday morning.

By Margo Sullivan, Patch Staff | May 15, 2018 7:47 pm ET

NEWPORT, RI—Police arrested seven people with the Volvo Ocean Race partying at a downtown night spot on Bannister's Wharf. The race officials released a statement Tuesday. In the statement the organizers apologized to the people of Newport. Here it is.

On Tuesday, following an incident in downtown Newport, seven people associated with the Volvo Ocean Race were detained by local police. All were released after pleading to misdemeanour in disorderly conduct.

On behalf of the Volvo Ocean Race we apologize to the Newport community for any disturbance caused and we thank the authorities for their assistance.

https://patch.com/rhode-island/newport/volvo-ocean-race-apology-ruckus-outside-clarke-cooke-house

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1 hour ago, southerncross said:

The arrested included 55-year-old Australian Andrew Cape who is navigator on Peter Burling's Dutch entry Team Brunel.

Interesting wording here.  I wonder if Bouwe has any thought on this!

BTW - The fracas sounds like the police came in and started throwing their weight around, drunk sailors didn't appreciate it and then someone fell over.  End of story.

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At a Volvo Ocean Race event earlier in the day, the incident was the talk of several team members of Vestas 11th Hour Racing. During conversations among people wearing team jackets, several said it seemed police overreacted to the incident and things got out of hand unnecessarily.

“We’ve partied around the world and we’ve never had anything like this,” one team member said.

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Do you think we'll get the full skinny on the next episode of "Gybe Talking"?

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11 minutes ago, southerncross said:

At a Volvo Ocean Race event earlier in the day, the incident was the talk of several team members of Vestas 11th Hour Racing. During conversations among people wearing team jackets, several said it seemed police overreacted to the incident and things got out of hand unnecessarily.

“We’ve partied around the world and we’ve never had anything like this,” one team member said.

This is a very reasonable explanation. Foreigners are generally unprepared for the American state security apparatus, particularly this business about making sure they know you respect their authoritah, to use Eric Cartman's famous term. The fact the United States is such an outlier relative to other European and commonwealth countries in the way the security apparatus behaves is a worry, but it has been this way for a long time. 

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 Sorry Officer, just upholding the age old traditions of ocean racing.

Capey rocks!

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1 hour ago, Foiling Optimist said:

This is a very reasonable explanation. Foreigners are generally unprepared for the American state security apparatus, particularly this business about making sure they know you respect their authoritah, to use Eric Cartman's famous term. The fact the United States is such an outlier relative to other European and commonwealth countries in the way the security apparatus behaves is a worry, but it has been this way for a long time. 

indeed -- sounds like a complete beat up.

 

One thing travellers need to understand, is that when talking to coppers in the US, the conversation is expected to be 'yes sir, no sir', whilst in the UK and Oz its more like 'fuck off, are you for real?' and everyone moves on their way if no foul.

Explains how mr plod fell over and six or seven disorderly conduct charges came out of it.

 

I'd like to see the New England coppers deal with the crowd at the Customs House after a Hobart race.

 

Wouldn't take much to upset this neighbourhood: 

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Well they had shortening chances to tick off the Group W Bench bucket list with Cardiff, G-burg and Holland remaining - the authorities are good at letting golden gooses enjoy their time rather than demand fealty to the badge. Good to see the girls involved :)

“Have you ever been arrested?” “Do you feel you’ve rehabilitated yourself?”

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Go Capey...! Obviously had a few drinks. Nevertheless a dangerous scenario especially if he had fallen and landed on his head? Upsetting US cops also isn't recommended especially the tigger happy ones.!

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17 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Go Capey...! Obviously had a few drinks. Nevertheless a dangerous scenario especially if he had fallen and landed on his head?

Hardly dangerous.. restitution would simply include a new floor.

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1 hour ago, duncan (the other one) said:

.... Id like to see the New England coppers deal with the crowd at the Customs House after a Hobart race.......

Not condoning what Cape et al did, until you know the cops involved can take a joke, it is pretty dumb to tell them to fuck off.... No matter how pissed you were....

I recall many, many years ago, when all the boats used to be moored inside Constitution Dock, helping to consume three eighteen gallon kegs of beer, side bet wins, on the dock on a Sunday morning. Two police were in attendance, but if you went up and had a chat, you couldn’t help noticing that they were wearing tie bars with enamelled blue pigs on them....

And what would have the New England cops made of the QLD?

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Volvo, really keeping it classy.

Only reason these people got off with a donation is David Ray and Brad Read made a couple of calls to make this all go away.

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35 minutes ago, sunseeker said:

Volvo, really keeping it classy.

Only reason these people got off with a donation is David Ray and Brad Read made a couple of calls to make this all go away.

so there are two problems here:

1/ the local US constabulary can't ignore a few pissed idiots (or more likely, their job has become so fraught with real danger that they can't take the chance).

2/ the system is corrupt enough that a few words from a local identity will sort it out. 

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A South American stopover in the old days involved enough social behaviour to keep a Newport Court House busy today for a year. Keeping crew from ending up in jail, or sometimes getting them out of there before the  start was a full time job for someone on a boat, preferably a teetotaler who didn't fancy hookers. Job vacancy was high.

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4 hours ago, SPORTSCAR said:

 Sorry Officer, just upholding the age old traditions of ocean racing.

Capey rocks!

First time I met Capey he was doing a damn fine job of preventing one of our crew mates from getting beaten up in Waikiki in '84

Worked with him at Sobstory Sails in Hamble

Good bloke

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2 hours ago, Sidecar said:

And what would have the New England cops made of the QLD?

Dunno ..in Old England you got sent to Australia in chains for not wearing matching shoes.

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 I'll bet the coppers were flexing, all bloated up with the bullet proof vests.

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

A South American stopover in the old days involved enough social behaviour to keep a Newport Court House busy today for a year. Keeping crew from ending up in jail, or sometimes getting them out of there before the  start was a full time job for someone on a boat, preferably a teetotaler who didn't fancy hookers. Job vacancy was high.

That's what happens when a ship finally returns to shore after a long ocean voyage. Drunken sailors have been around for a long time. Capey was still pissed about losing to Mapfre and he needed to take it out on someone. LOL. Good to see the boys and girls having a good time and all's well that ends well. Sailing for months at sea with Bouwe will do that to you!. :D

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

A South American stopover in the old days involved enough social behaviour to keep a Newport Court House busy today for a year. Keeping crew from ending up in jail, or sometimes getting them out of there before the  start was a full time job for someone on a boat, preferably a teetotaler who didn't fancy hookers. Job vacancy was high.

Capey was probably at the '94 piss-up in Punta. No fights, but ambulances were commandeered. Half a dozen of the La Poste crew ended up in a Uruguayan gaol, but that was a separate incident.

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2 hours ago, Expedition said:

Capey was probably at the '94 piss-up in Punta. No fights, but ambulances were commandeered. Half a dozen of the La Poste crew ended up in a Uruguayan gaol, but that was a separate incident.

Expedition I'm sure you were tucked up in bed early that night under your motorcycle blanket :-)

 

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5 hours ago, wal' said:

First time I met Capey he was doing a damn fine job of preventing one of our crew mates from getting beaten up in Waikiki in '84

There was an ulterior motive ;-)

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Meanwhile, back on the S/V Brunel, things stayed very civilized:

 

You can't make this shit up.

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16 minutes ago, Forestdawg said:

Meanwhile, back on the S/V Brunel, things stayed very civilized:

I don't know.  Looked like Bolzan was about to throttle the violist.

Haydn?  Probably great acoustics.

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Clarke Cooke house is a very famous bar normally frequented by sailors in Newport (also known as the Candy Store).  If you ever get the chance you should give it a visit. 

As far as the police go....Damn Puritans....

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1 hour ago, Forestdawg said:

Meanwhile, back on the S/V Brunel, things stayed very civilized:

 

You can't make this shit up.

The only thing the VOR media saturation  person did wrong here roping poor Brunel cardboard  cutouts into this shit was they and the band were not sitting in a Volvo Station Wagon/SUV driving over a fuckin glacier singing Abba tunes.

Patience with these RO fuckwits is running out here faster than a Welsh tide ...which has only just sunk in their end.

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A few sailors get drunk in a town that is benefitting hugely from the event, a fire alarm goes off and the town police send the WHOLE ON WATCH POLICE FORCE.

If that isn't heavy handed what the F is.

In the UK they would probably have sent along the village bobby (on his bike) and it would gently have been a non-issue.

I know Capey and he has never struck me as a guy who would go looking for trouble.

And the lightness of the fines and the fact the case was filed looks like it was only a short step above the judge saying "Really? You brought this to court?"

Just sayin'

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Those "sailors" are lucky they are not black - if they were, they'd likely be lying dead in the street. 

More white privilege. 

Cue the Reichista outrage machine. 

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16 hours ago, HFC Hunter said:

Why were they ordered to donate to a specific club that’s seemingly unrelated to a bar scuffle? Is BGC a known kids sailing club in Newport or is it run by the cop’s sister in law?

Fucking Newport police are a bunch of tools.

They make things worse every time they show up, things get escalated. 

I think the DA and the police are in cahoots to extort money from the tourist. In this case around $1200

I guess the the Boys and Girls club needed some money 

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1 minute ago, AJ Oliver said:

Those "sailors" are lucky they are not black - if they were, they'd likely be lying dead in the street. 

More white privilege. 

Cue the Reichista outrage machine. 

My first thought when I read the article. Not the nicest image the US has abroad.

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I'm not sure why everyone is defending the sailors here (and I know two of the people involved).  The story says that a fire alarm went off, in that case everyone is required to leave the premises.  I think this goes for Anytown, USA, not just Newport.  It sounds like people wouldn't leave, maybe it was Cape and his party, maybe not though it sounds like he told a policeman he wasn't going anywhere.  One of the reasons everyone is required to leave is so the Fire Dept. can access and assess the building to re-set alarms, they want it evacuated in case there is a fire.  I don't know how the rest of the world works but this sounds like a reasonable request. It also sounds like there wasn't a full compliment of police there when this started, the story states that the full watch was called to take care of an escalating situation.  What happened with Cape and the policeman is surely up to debate,  the cop probably tripped but in any case it sounds like he was trying to move Cape out of the area by grabbing his arm.  I don't think there's any puffed up cop stuff going on here, Bowens has brick sidewalks that are uneven, I've seen plenty of people trip on it.  The fact that another sailor then jumped on the policeman seems like a pretty good reason for the cops to say "enough is enough" and get the group out of there.  

Newport cops generally don't over react, they see way more out of control drunks on a summer weekend than most towns in the country and for the most part deal with it pretty well.  Just because sailors often end up in this "boys will be boys" type of situation (and I've been in more than enough of them and been to jail because of it) doesn't mean you have to trash the town or the cops.  I've never been in a situation where I didn't later say "well, I guess this is really my fault", the cops aren't looking for confrontations, they try to mediate them.  In this case, Cape didn't want the mediation, nor did Coppers.

Now giving them a slap on the hand by having them pay restitution to kids, what exactly is wrong with that.  The broke the law but won't have anything on their records if they don't repeat the behavior in the next year.  There's no back room wheeling and dealing as to where the money goes, most of the fines in Newport go to charities.  Admittedly, they got off easy with intervention from Brad and the Mayor (maybe) but what kind of stink would you guys be making if they got fully arraigned and had a permanent record?  All they had to do was walk out of the building and there would be a whole lot of nothing going on.  Get over it and think about what you would have done if you were in either the cop's or Capes shoes.  I know I'd blame myself for not listening to a cop before anything else.

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Looks like the VOR needs to hire a couple of bobbies to help the local force :

 

 

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The one time I didn't come to the VOR stopover in the US and I miss out on this.  I would have been right there in that bar...damn!

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8 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

There was an ulterior motive ;-)

?

Hmmm......... cryptic......

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20 hours ago, SCANAS said:

I don't know anything about the American legal system but seems very very very light!

As noted above....No brown-skinned people involved. 

Rowdy white yachties in an expensive Newport pub ($55 steaks), just an annoyance.  Next thing is likely taking a leak over the railing at Ida Lewis or on the NYYC Outstation lawn. 

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13 hours ago, terrafirma said:

Capey was still pissed about losing to Mapfre and he needed to take it out on someone. 

That or Butterworth was back in town egging the youth on ;)

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Capey and co are to be congratulated. Bringing the sport back to its roots. And speaking of roots I wonder if Deirdre from QLD's mother was ever in Gladstone around Easter time back in the day...   

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1 hour ago, Left Shift said:

As noted above....No brown-skinned people involved. 

Rowdy white yachties in an expensive Newport pub ($55 steaks), just an annoyance.  Next thing is likely taking a leak over the railing at Ida Lewis or on the NYYC Outstation lawn. 

I've done that more than once, also on AYC lawn

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4 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

Those "sailors" are lucky they are not black - if they were, they'd likely be lying dead in the street.

Unfortunately it is a bad rap I'm sure many coppers don't deserve. This little kid probably thinks so.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-16/us-boy-receives-guard-of-honour-after-police-father-dies/9766700

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2 hours ago, MR.CLEAN said:

The one time I didn't come to the VOR stopover in the US and I miss out on this.  I would have been right there in that bar...damn!

Mate how is the new business going?

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20 hours ago, Foiling Optimist said:

This is a very reasonable explanation. Foreigners are generally unprepared for the American state security apparatus, particularly this business about making sure they know you respect their authoritah,

If the US was ever to host a European soccer event someone better tell the coppers.

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

If the US was ever to host a European soccer event someone better tell the coppers.

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Well, they are probably getting used to Association Football fans by now. 

I was in an Irish pub, the Emerald Inn, on the west side of Manhattan the year NY hosted the World Cup.  It was Ireland vs. Italy the next day.  It was the same night that OJ was doing his low-speed chase on the LA Freeways and the NY Knicks were on TV in the NBA Playoffs (for the last time ever?).  Everyone was wondering what the fuck a white bronco was doing just driving along in an inset across the basketball court.  

There were maybe a dozen solid Irish fans visiting from Dublin having more than a few pints. 

It got interesting when a group of Italian fans (dressed in red, white and green) came in trying to sell forged tickets.  A bit of a ruckus was in the works.  

It got more interesting when about 10 athletic guys in pastel nylon running shorts came in, having just run in the gay olympics in Central Park.  

It got a good bit louder and a "three-way" altercation began in earnest.  

The cops did a pretty good job of sorting it all out.

While I sat high up on the back of my booth, a little old lady at the bar quietly ate her regular Irish stew dinner without a glance up.  

 

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7 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

Those "sailors" are lucky they are not black - if they were, they'd likely be lying dead in the street. 

More white privilege. 

Cue the Reichista outrage machine. 

Haven't you got a bag of dicks you should be eating?

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8 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

Those "sailors" are lucky they are not black - if they were, they'd likely be lying dead in the street. 

More white privilege. 

Cue the Reichista outrage machine. 

Black - in Newport ?

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1 hour ago, Left Shift said:

While I sat high up on the back of my booth, a little old lady at the bar quietly ate her regular Irish stew dinner without a glance up.  

Probably a Belfast woman thinking were all a bunch of pussies and wouldn't know a pipe bomb if they fell over one.

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So the Brunel thugs get kid gloves treatment, and their supporters still whine about it. Yes, that it totally how white privilege works. 

What a buncha just so delicate Reichista snowflakes. 

And if you are too punky to post your own name here when you bash someone, . . 

you are likely a sniveling coward who is into personal responsibility only when it is convenient for y'all. 

If Pete Burling wants to save a smidgen of his dignity, he should jump off that boat posthaste. 

(I would have responded sooner, but I was actually out sailing, what a concept!) 

 

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33 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

So the Brunel thugs get kid gloves treatment, and their supporters still whine about it. Yes, that it totally how white privilege works. 

What a buncha just so delicate Reichista snowflakes. 

And if you are too punky to post your own name here when you bash someone, . . 

you are likely a sniveling coward who is into personal responsibility only when it is convenient for y'all. 

Wow.... However are you really being honest here about your level of social tolerance?

I Googled your name and up flashed this Facebook pic of you having dinner at your Muslim girlfriends place.

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Some may recall an epic party in Rio where some belly sliding resulted in the main pole of the tent being knocked out and the tent collapsing and subsequent mass evacuation before the police arrived

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5 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

So the Brunel thugs get kid gloves treatment, and their supporters still whine about it. Yes, that it totally how white privilege works. 

What a buncha just so delicate Reichista snowflakes. 

And if you are too punky to post your own name here when you bash someone, . . 

you are likely a sniveling coward who is into personal responsibility only when it is convenient for y'all. 

If Pete Burling wants to save a smidgen of his dignity, he should jump off that boat posthaste. 

(I would have responded sooner, but I was actually out sailing, what a concept!) 

 

wow - that's a tight panty wad you have there

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First of all, they weren't in the Candy Store at 1 AM...they were in the Boom Boom Room.  There aren't $55 steaks served in the basement, there are moderately cold beers and piss warm shots served.  The floor is sticky, the music is loud, and there is a camera focused on the dance floor so you don't miss a minute of the action while you're waiting for your drink.

Based on the story I was told, the fire alarm went off due to some sort of smoke or vapor triggering the alarm.  It's 1 AM in Newport, everyone is hammered outside of the Cookhouse and stupidity occurred.  No victims, no damage, just a bunch of hangovers and a few regrets in the morning.  This shit happens almost every night in Newport.  The donations were made as a way of apologizing to the community, not because of some corrupt legal system.  Yes, Rhode Island is historically the most corrupt state in the Union, but that really has nothing to do with this incident.

And for all of you conspiracy theorists declaring this "white privilege" or implying that the Newport police department would have controlled the situation differently if anyone involved was a person of color, you can all fuck right off.  Stop turning every story into a political drama.  If anything, you should be happy that the women were behaving the same as the men and treated as equals by the cops.

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You had us all until here...

47 minutes ago, RumLine said:

Based on the story I was told, 

As for the rest of your expose being one of the Rhode Island community being somehow different to other US postcodes when it comes to prejudice and therefore perceptions of those from the outside to comment in any form, humourous or other wise..dream on if you think that is not justified.

Rhode Is is place of wealth concentration and therefore privalge so just happens to be a place where different social rules are at play. Some out of towners playing by the same rules got caught out and being in the public eye were treated accordingly.

And yes arguably lucky they were not nobody people of colour, hence comments made here.

Own your own backyard and don't critisise those looking over the fence.

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

You had us all until here...

As for the rest of your expose being one of the Rhode Island community being somehow different to other US postcodes when it comes to prejudice and therefore perceptions of those from the outside to comment in any form, humourous or other wise..dream on if you think that is not justified.

I wasn't there, so I'm going off what I was told by someone involved in the VOR Newport stopover.  Then again, I was also told that the donations were made to the MLK Jr. center, and not the Boys and Girls Club of Newport County as reported in the Newport Daily News.

https://www.mlkccenter.org/

http://www.bgcnewport.org/

 

And yes, I believe the Newport police would have acted exactly the same regardless of skin tone.  They dispatched their entire on-duty force (9 officers) to control the situation.  This isn't some flyover state where race plays a part in every day interactions, this is a waterfront town in liberal New England that only cares about bringing in tourism dollars.

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15 hours ago, duncan (the other one) said:

Black - in Newport ?

I guess  you never looked out behind the Best Western just out by the bridge, plus the Newport school district is one of the worst the state.

Newport is not just Thames St and Ocean Drive, open your eyes the next time you are their.

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The black population of Newport is about 5 % - if they do not exist to you, that says something about you. 

I don't raise the issue of white privilege just to hack people off. I guess it is the old educator in me, but I see those 

situations as teachable moments. Occasionally, a light bulb will go off in someone's brain and they will start to see

the world in a new way. 

And of course it is not just the US by any means. The Cubans and Brazilians both say its just a coincidence that 

darker skinned folks are generally lower in socio-economic status. No. it is not a coincidence. In Costa Rica, when a 

new baby is presented, people are expected to exclaim "Tan Rubio !!" (how blonde!) no matter how dark the child is. 

It would be funny if it were not pretty sad. 

Our local sailing club has come a long way - really quite racist 40 years ago, but now makes a real effort 

to make sailing available to low income folks and minorities (our town is recovering rust belt - one third 

minority, and two thirds poor. Lots of struggling people.) 

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3 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

The black population of Newport is about 5 % - if they do not exist to you, that says something about you. 

I don't raise the issue of white privilege just to hack people off. I guess it is the old educator in me, but I see those 

situations as teachable moments. Occasionally, a light bulb will go off in someone's brain and they will start to see

the world in a new way. 

And of course it is not just the US by any means. The Cubans and Brazilians both say its just a coincidence that 

darker skinned folks are generally lower in socio-economic status. No. it is not a coincidence. In Costa Rica, when a 

new baby is presented, people are expected to exclaim "Tan Rubio !!" (how blonde!) no matter how dark the child is. 

It would be funny if it were not pretty sad. 

Our local sailing club has come a long way - really quite racist 40 years ago, but now makes a real effort 

to make sailing available to low income folks and minorities (our town is recovering rust belt - one third 

minority, and two thirds poor. Lots of struggling people.) 

Our yacht club is very inclusive. We even have had a Jewish Comadore and several Catholic board members. Whilst we don't have any dark skinned members we did have a couple of gardners that are- and I made a point of being nice to them (I don't want my car scratched after all). Sadly we did have to let them go after someone stole a hose fitting. We did have a program to teach some indigenous youths but the extra security guards needed became quite expensive so we moved it to a local park. Those kind of people feel more comfortable in their normal environment anyway. As for your stupid comment implying we don't sail, here are the results from yesterday's beer can race-

1st - Slave Trader

2nd- Cotton picker

3rd- Black hearted Women.

4th- Gollywog

Sorry I took so long to reply but I had to pick up my Blazer from the dry cleaners.

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There are really some PC contributors here....no wonder all the fun is / has gone out of the whole sailing experience. Sounds like the police throwing their weight around after a few of the patrons decided to assist the false alarm call out. As for the post about Burling???? He's  only crew...it's not 'Burling's Brunel'...talk about being convicted by association.... Get a life A J Oliver  et al !

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5 hours ago, jesposito said:

I guess  you never looked out behind the Best Western just out by the bridge, plus the Newport school district is one of the worst the state.

Newport is not just Thames St and Ocean Drive, open your eyes the next time you are their.

I've never been to the place.

I'm just observing the invisible blackness from this side of the pond.

The way some of you get riled up about this sort of idle banter is quite amusing.