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Holy christ! How in the fuck is this guy not in jail? It's more than a bit concerning that this has gone on and that Cowes Race School is still operating as if nothing ever happened, although he has now been banned from all yacht clubs in Cowes and been thrown out of a few events here in the UK.

The individual in question sails on many super yachts and classics and I believe the sailing fraternity should be made aware of what has gone on especially individuals that may sign up and want to use Cowes Race Schools services. 

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best check this one Ed .

was dumped here before with no link nor anything to be found on the net .....................

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no publication date, no reporter name, no name of the paper, no other stories on the internet about it and no way to verify it, and you put it up on the front page? This is how people get sued by the way, so have fun with that.

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8 minutes ago, Mark Set said:

no publication date, no reporter name, no name of the paper, no other stories on the internet about it and no way to verify it, and you put it up on the front page? This is how people get sued by the way, so have fun with that.

Can you say Dan Mayers? 

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It is possible to have info and photos removed by google at your request if they feel it defames or otherwise compromises your reputation or ability to get work from what I heard...

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He must be a pretty good sailor though- winning Cowes week with that dog.

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non story....

in the other thread we never found the "offending photos" so it never happened.

1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

He must be a pretty good sailor though- winning Cowes week with that dog.

I won the best start bottle of wine sailing a pursuit with my dog. Best tactician i've sailed with.

However I've never put cameras in the ladies change room. Given the club members average age......:blink: 

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Non story...right

The real story is that James Gair finally found true love and is happy as hell to share pics of his bitch with the world.

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On 5/17/2018 at 6:46 PM, PuckSoppet said:

Isle of Wight county press. Friday April 6th 2018. F80AF487-1966-47F0-83D6-F6A959FB4441.thumb.jpeg.0ca41a75369c9c71dacda5397c567e72.jpeg

 

I went looking and cannot find anything there. "Right to be forgotten" is on search engines, not the original material. I do note your only posts under this handle are about that story.

So true? Not true? Damned if I know.

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21 minutes ago, dogwatch said:

I went looking and cannot find anything there. "Right to be forgotten" is on search engines, not the original material. I do note your only posts under this handle are about that story.

So true? Not true? Damned if I know.

The image of the article looks credible. However there are good reasons to be sceptical.

1.       The inability to find the information on search engines May 3 when the “shower spy” posting was first made on SA...that is less than a month after the reputed publication on April 9. That would be a staggering fast turnaround for a right to erasure/right to be forgotten request.

2.       If this article is true then a request for “right to erasure” would probably be refused as it is recent, newsworthy and in the public interest. At the very least it would take an extended period to process/grant the request. Requests can be refused for a range of reasons: “decisions not to delist pages include the existence of alternative solutions, technical reasons, or duplicate URLs. We may also determine that the page contains information which is strongly in the public interest. Determining whether content is in the public interest is complex and may mean considering many diverse factors, including—but not limited to—whether the content relates to the requester’s professional life, a past crime, political office, position in public life, or whether the content is self-authored content, consists of government documents, or is journalistic in nature.”  

3.       A successful request for erasure would probably not affect the ability to find the article on the website of the actual publication.

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We need to figure out a way to keep folks from trying to get SA offline.  

Website moves offshore with a dog as the official ed?  

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On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 5:46 AM, PuckSoppet said:

Isle of Wight county press. Friday April 6th 2018. F80AF487-1966-47F0-83D6-F6A959FB4441.thumb.jpeg.0ca41a75369c9c71dacda5397c567e72.jpeg

 

well it looks real enough, and real sickening  schoolboy stupid type stuff or this guy really does need help, these girls/ women have brothers, fathers, boyfriends , husbands  who may not be quite so lenient suspending a sentence of a well deserved gelding

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16 hours ago, Lying Malarky said:

I forgot what the court ruling was. Is he a g*****r or not?

 

I wonder how ************ is travelling these days ? A couple of  years ago he was on the receiving end of a court judgement for roughly $60 million. He sold his loan business for $65 million but not all of that money was his to keep. Given the way his company share price plunged he probably was not able to pay out the judgement in one hit. He still works at the company which is now called Cognition Financial Corporation but seems to be off the boating scene.

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Chippy (James Gair) was out sailing his mills 39 in the RORC vice admirals cup this weekend. He wasn’t allowed in the club and I gather he had a frosty reception in the marina. 

Amazingly he still had (I assume) customers on his boat, including women. No idea if they knew of his conviction before they signed up. 

He had to have a separate skipper on board as the RYA have rescinded his commercially endorsed yacht master. 

Also a lot of respect to Ed for sticking to his guns and putting the story back up. 

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4 minutes ago, PuckSoppet said:

 

He had to have a separate skipper on board as the RYA have rescinded his commercially endorsed yacht master. 

 

RYA believe they are above the court?

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No they look at each case on its merits. There was a school owner accused of having child pornograhy in his possession a few years back- he was convicted ( due to poor legal advice) but after conducting an investigation the RYA rightfully found that he was innocent or maybe just careless (he had inadvertently clicked on the wrong website when he was pissed!) and he was allowed to continue teaching. And no it wasn't me!  The RYA don't think they are above the law, but they are a very fair and responsible organisation. In this case he may have lost his accreditation for something else.

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I understand all of that & today's SJW culture but bit of an overreach by RYA. Its not their business to go above & beyond the court & punish criminals. 

If he was teaching RYA & they wanted to suspend him for a time, or make him disclose his conviction to potential students, I understand, but taking his skippers ticket is too far. 

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10 minutes ago, SCANAS said:

I understand all of that & today's SJW culture but bit of an overreach by RYA. Its not their business to go above & beyond the court & punish criminals. 

If he was teaching RYA & they wanted to suspend him for a time, or make him disclose his conviction to potential students, I understand, but taking his skippers ticket is too far. 

How would you feel if it was your wife or daughter he was teaching a few months ago? 

Or in a few weeks time when you find out after the fact and that the RYA decided not to disclose the information?

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52 minutes ago, mad said:

How would you feel if it was your wife or daughter he was teaching a few months ago? 

Or in a few weeks time when you find out after the fact and that the RYA decided not to disclose the information?

I knew someone would use that analogy. I can feel however I want to feel about it. It's still not up to the victims associates to exact revenge, it's up to the court to determine a fair course of action, that's a mark of civilised society. 

I had a look through his website. There is no mention of the RYA. Was he operating an RYA school? Seems very harsh to pull his skippers ticket if no. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, SCANAS said:

I understand all of that & today's SJW culture but bit of an overreach by RYA. Its not their business to go above & beyond the court & punish criminals. 

If he was teaching RYA & they wanted to suspend him for a time, or make him disclose his conviction to potential students, I understand, but taking his skippers ticket is too far. 

IF it's true I think they should take away his right to breath but I don't speak on behalf of the RYA.  The YM still allows him to work with people - mostly charter guests. 

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1 hour ago, SCANAS said:

I knew someone would use that analogy. I can feel however I want to feel about it. It's still not up to the victims associates to exact revenge, it's up to the court to determine a fair course of action, that's a mark of civilised society. 

I had a look through his website. There is no mention of the RYA. Was he operating an RYA school? Seems very harsh to pull his skippers ticket if no. 

 

 

Character is all part of the assessment. That is why I can't examine you mate. After that unfortunate business with that goat...

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17 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

IF it's true I think they should take away his right to breath but I don't speak on behalf of the RYA.  The YM still allows him to work with people - mostly charter guests. 

Proposing murder for 4 x voyuerism? 

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QE2 is the patron and HRH Anne is the Prez. I am sure they can still 'off with someone's head' if they really wanted to.

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11 hours ago, SCANAS said:

I understand all of that & today's SJW culture but bit of an overreach by RYA. Its not their business to go above & beyond the court & punish criminals. 

If he was teaching RYA & they wanted to suspend him for a time, or make him disclose his conviction to potential students, I understand, but taking his skippers ticket is too far. 

The RYA is the national governing body for all forms of boating sport in the UK. Part of the YM commercial qualification is called "Professional Practices and Responsibilities". If you are a Doctor/Architect/Chartered Engineer and you get convicted for sexual offences (or pretty much anything else!) then you can expect that your accrediting body will strike you off. The RYA is no different. How angry would you feel with the RYA if a friend family member went away for a weeks sailing with an accredited school and it turned out their lead instructor had convictions and they were ok with him covering it up?

In my opinion the RYA were duty bound to make sure this guy cannot represent them or deliver their services.

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Well, not really as Gair's company isn't an RYA-recognised school and he is no sense "representing them or delivering their services". This is about the commercial Yachtmaster endorsement, which the RYA is delegated to provide and allows the holder to skipper a yacht for money.

That's assuming these reports are in fact true, of which I remain uncertain.

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11 hours ago, SCANAS said:
12 hours ago, mad said:

How would you feel if it was your wife or daughter he was teaching a few months ago? 

Or in a few weeks time when you find out after the fact and that the RYA decided not to disclose the information?

I knew someone would use that analogy. I can feel however I want to feel about it. It's still not up to the victims associates to exact revenge, it's up to the court to determine a fair course of action, that's a mark of civilised society. 

I had a look through his website. There is no mention of the RYA. Was he operating an RYA school? Seems very harsh to pull his skippers ticket if no. 

 

Feel like answering the question?

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4 hours ago, LB 15 said:

QE2 is the patron and HRH Anne is the Prez. I am sure they can still 'off with someone's head' if they really wanted to.

An underpass in Paris is the preferred option these days. :ph34r:

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45 minutes ago, dogwatch said:

Well, not really as Gair's company isn't an RYA-recognised school and he is no sense "representing them or delivering their services". This is about the commercial Yachtmaster endorsement, which the RYA is delegated to provide and allows the holder to skipper a yacht for money.

That's assuming these reports are in fact true, of which I remain uncertain.

I’m amazed that anyone can defend a convicted sex offender. That’s assuming these reports are in fact true, of course they are true. He was caught, tried and convicted, end of. I have know Chippy for the last 15 years as a friend. But no more, that trust has been broken. He is no longer a friend and I would not piss on him if he was burning. I work with children and would never want to be associated with a sex offender.

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I'm not defending him, my whole point is should the RYA go above & beyond the court & punish him. 

If he was a forklift operator should he have to retrain as a garbo?

I understand forklift drivers don't have students showering at their house, I feel the court addressed that: 

6mth suspended sentence, 40 days rehab, a sexual harm order & "other restrictions" + being outcast & being on the front page of the paper. 

There is no mention of children. 

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36 minutes ago, SCANAS said:

I'm not defending him, my whole point is should the RYA go above & beyond the court & punish him. 

If he was a forklift operator should he have to retrain as a garbo?

I understand forklift drivers don't have students showering at their house, I feel the court addressed that: 

6mth suspended sentence, 40 days rehab, a sexual harm order & "other restrictions" + being outcast & being on the front page of the paper. 

There is no mention of children. 

it's not a case of the RYA going above and beyond the courts, its more that case as stated below.

 

2 hours ago, tomcheney said:

The RYA is the national governing body for all forms of boating sport in the UK. Part of the YM commercial qualification is called "Professional Practices and Responsibilities". If you are a Doctor/Architect/Chartered Engineer and you get convicted for sexual offences (or pretty much anything else!) then you can expect that your accrediting body will strike you off. The RYA is no different. How angry would you feel with the RYA if a friend family member went away for a weeks sailing with an accredited school and it turned out their lead instructor had convictions and they were ok with him covering it up?

In my opinion the RYA were duty bound to make sure this guy cannot represent them or deliver their services.

 

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Outside SA there's no sign of this story, including "Isle of Wight county press. Friday April 6th 2018" from which the clipping is supposed to come. The "right to be forgotten" applies to search engines, not to the original content. Excuse me if I find this just a little puzzling and am so far hesitant to join the lynch mob.

FWIW I have met James Gair a couple of times but that was 15+ years ago and I've no interest in defending him if he actually did what has been stated.

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4 minutes ago, dogwatch said:

Outside SA there's no sign of this story, including "Isle of Wight county press. Friday April 6th 2018" from which the clipping is supposed to come. The "right to be forgotten" applies to search engines, not to the original content. Excuse me if I find this just a little puzzling and am so far hesitant to join the lynch mob.

FWIW I have met James Gair a couple of times but that was 15+ years ago and I've no interest in defending him if he actually did what has been stated.

Their is no lynch mob, if you know him then simply ask him the question. It would be interesting to hear his reply. I know him very well and I can assure you that everything that has been said on SA is totally justified.

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On 5/21/2018 at 5:34 PM, PuckSoppet said:

 

He had to have a separate skipper on board as the RYA have rescinded his commercially endorsed yacht master. 

False.  

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I have re read my conditions of recognition and whilst not putting cameras in the shower is not specificity mentioned it is generally accepted and implied. 

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

I have re read my conditions of recognition and whilst not putting cameras in the shower is not specificity mentioned it is generally accepted and implied. 

I'll setup a live feed at my place so you can watch me $5/minute. Will that be visa or MasterCard sir :) 

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2 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

Cane we see afoto fisrte?              :)

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19 hours ago, VWAP said:

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According to the rules here, you’ve now officially outed yourself like proasailor. 

Nice selfie! ;)

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On 5/24/2018 at 12:09 PM, SCANAS said:

Ok $4 minute

shouldn't you be increasing the price?

EDIT.. ohh, I thought you were offering to pay LB $5 to watch you. Now I realise you wanted that money.

good luck..

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13 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

According to the rules here, you’ve now officially outed yourself like proasailor. 

Nice selfie! ;)

Thats probably the third stupidest thing you have written on this site. 

 

 

I would never wear clashing colors like that

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I’m getting good at putting my foot in my mouth.

i apologize. I am color blind and thought the outfit was from Little Mismatch and looked great!

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16 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

I’m getting good at putting my foot in my mouth.

i apologize. I am color blind and thought the outfit was from Little Mismatch and looked great!

Image result for beer goggles

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