Shootist Jeff

The debate over assault weapons

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Uh oh.

I started off with this:

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And now you guys want some sculpted metal flower with gold leaf on it to decorate the end of my new .22 assault weapon? I admit it would look good but there's a budget to consider here!

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2 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

I have this shottie.  Its a Huglu from my last trip to Turkey.  Its not a pic of mine, but its the exact model and decorative work and stock. 

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Beautiful gun and it shoots well, although its nowhere as nicely machined and crafted as my Ruger Red Label.  The RRL is just total sex in an O/U.  

Interesting about the Ruger. Had to google that. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Red_Label

Did you buy the Huglu in Turkey? How did you deal with the shipping and transportation etc? 

 

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5 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

Back on subject.... I made this reply to woofers in another thread, but thought it more appropriate here: 

Cripes, Normy's disease is spreading.

Now you're moving your replies between threads too?

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5 hours ago, mad said:
7 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

I have this shottie.  Its a Huglu from my last trip to Turkey.  Its not a pic of mine, but its the exact model and decorative work and stock. 

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Beautiful gun and it shoots well, although its nowhere as nicely machined and crafted as my Ruger Red Label.  The RRL is just total sex in an O/U.  

Interesting about the Ruger. Had to google that. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Red_Label

Did you buy the Huglu in Turkey? How did you deal with the shipping and transportation etc? 

And this as well, a piece of history. https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/11/3/a-look-back-at-the-ruger-red-label-shotgun/

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, mad said:

Interesting about the Ruger. Had to google that. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Red_Label

Did you buy the Huglu in Turkey? How did you deal with the shipping and transportation etc? 

 

Yes, I bought it in Adana, Turkey when we were deployed to Incirlik AB.  I was actually living in the UK at the time.  I brought it back to the UK in the jet when we redeployed and IIRC, the only requirement was I had to store it at the local gun club in a nearby village.  When I transferred back to the US, it just went into the rest of the furniture stuff that got shipped back to the US.  Easy peasy.  No issue with customs at all.  But that was back in 95-96.  I can't even begin to imagine what an incredible hassle it would be now to do the same thing.  I'm betting pretty much zero chance of being able to do that now into the UK.  

I've actually kicked myself numerous times for not buying more while I was there.  There were several other beautiful rifles and shotguns that I could have brought back that were dirt cheap at the time.  I think I paid around $200 USD at the time for the Huglu O/U above.  Oh well, hindsight and all......

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23 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

I'm wondering if the flower color issue will have any bearing on the important penis size issue.

We all know that someone whose assault weapon looks like this:

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Probably has a much, much smaller weenie than someone whose assault weapon looks like one of these:

marlin-assault-rifles.jpg

But what message regarding penis size does an assault weapon like the Victory .22 send? And does the flower color choice affect this?

(Asking for a friend, btw).

My friend is wondering whether I got any more info on this subject.

What happened to all the people who can discern penis size from gun ownership?

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35 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Tom you are slipping.  Up late and no mention of .22s.

SAD!


I was up early trying to help out a friend. He's also wondering if fancy metalwork has any bearing on penis size. Any thoughts I could share with him?

(If you really want non-gun content, a good place to look would be the NRA/Mueller thread.)

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3 hours ago, Fakenews said:

I don’t give much thought to penis size.

Good thing for you, your wife doesn't either.......  :lol:

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28 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

I read somewhere that you are divorced.  Was it because of your penis?

You "read" somewhere?  You've only been here a month.  How could you read that if you are not a sock of another longtime sock?

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32 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

I did.  I suspected you were divorced.  You sound like a person a woman would divorce.  So I did a search,  you posted freely on the subject.  

NTTATWWT happens to a lot of people

Heh heh. Noob sure has all the right answers. I don't follow the sock issue closely to recognize writing styles but FN is surely a sock. Remember the "kid" from Fiji with the scoop on Rimas? That and "Ian" from Hong Kong were my personal faves.

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18 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

Heh heh. Noob sure has all the right answers. I don't follow the sock issue closely to recognize writing styles but FN is surely a sock. Remember the "kid" from Fiji with the scoop on Rimas? That and "Ian" from Hong Kong were my personal faves.

Ian Dubin was a real person, with Facebook feed and everything. I thought he was very entertaining. The Fiji kid was a pretty obvious sock.

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Now I've got the idea of a metal flower stuck in my head. Maybe one like this?

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It's darn near impossible to find a side view of one of these so I can stick it on the .22 in a picture.

Mounting it would involve metalwork. I hurt myself whenever I open Tom's Metal Shop, so I try to avoid it.

But it might be within my limited skills to stick that on a thread protector and screw it onto an assault weapon.

Just trying to imagine how it would look in place of the pink one...

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On 6/1/2018 at 6:28 PM, Uncooperative Tom said:

I found a rather plain silver plated flower that I think accentuates this assault weapon pretty well.

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There's also a more ornate one but it looks too fancy and fragile for an assault weapon.

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42 minutes ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

I found a rather plain silver plated flower that I think accentuates this assault weapon pretty well.

SWVictory22silver-flower.jpg

There's also a more ornate one but it looks too fancy and fragile for an assault weapon.

That looks kinda lugerish so it must be a bad gun.  I seen it in war movies about Germans.

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5 hours ago, Fakenews said:

Those guns look hideous but I suppose are better than those with bullets in them. OK as a paperweight.

More fake news, those beautiful guns don't shot "bullets"

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12 hours ago, Blue Crab said:

Older style assault weapon.

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I admire the artistry but don't think I can make the flower appear to grow out of the barrel like that.

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7 hours ago, Fakenews said:

Why do you wish to assault people with your assault weapons?  Weird!!


I mostly use our (assault weapons, ordinary .22's) to annoy elk and that's the purpose of the flower gun too.

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7 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

I admire the artistry but don't think I can make the flower appear to grow out of the barrel like that.

Image result for split shotgun barrel

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27 minutes ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

That's a very elegant flower but I don't see where it screws onto the barrel. Amazing craftsmanship to conceal that.

Tom,  it’s important to include “22s” in your posts. otherwise no one knows what you’re droning on about.

 

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5 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Tom,  it’s important to include “22s” in your posts. otherwise no one knows what you’re droning on about.

 

Good point. I edited post 129 to clarify.

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23 hours ago, Fakenews said:

Excellent!  you could also improve your profile by putting .22s under your interests.

Or, more accurately, you could put "Tom's assault weapons" under your interests.

Keeping the ones I have and acquiring a new one to amuse me are among my interests but far from the top. My desire to keep our (assault weapons, ordinary .22's) is the most important thing about me to grabberz, but not to me.

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On 6/8/2018 at 10:20 AM, mad said:

Duck, pheasant, partridge and clays

It’s a multi purpose assault weapon, even more scary, especially as it’s disguised in pretty wood and scrolling. 

What are we looking at here? It looks very nice. And it's good to hear you use it regular. Too many "pretty" shotguns are unused out of fear of scratching something. 

My OU is just a utilitarian piece, no engraving and the stock is plain Jane. 

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On 6/8/2018 at 10:31 AM, Shootist Jeff said:

I have this shottie.  Its a Huglu from my last trip to Turkey.  Its not a pic of mine, but its the exact model and decorative work and stock. 

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Beautiful gun and it shoots well, although its nowhere as nicely machined and crafted as my Ruger Red Label.  The RRL is just total sex in an O/U.  

Nice. Now we are talking my kind of guns. 

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11 minutes ago, chinabald said:

Nice. Now we are talking my kind of guns. 

But pages 79 through 100 of my shopping list:

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/f/d/fdca734c-4855-49f3-aa1d-2ed02e791d6d/E5ECBD1B1D722D5C4AEDAEBB6276AB36.awb-bill-text.pdf

Contain the models of Over/Under shotguns that are NOT assault weapons. So if that fancy gun appears on the list, it's not a subject for discussion in this thread.

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18 minutes ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

But pages 79 through 100 of my shopping list:

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/f/d/fdca734c-4855-49f3-aa1d-2ed02e791d6d/E5ECBD1B1D722D5C4AEDAEBB6276AB36.awb-bill-text.pdf

Contain the models of Over/Under shotguns that are NOT assault weapons. So if that fancy gun appears on the list, it's not a subject for discussion in this thread.

Hmm. Mine was made by one company but branded and sold by another. It's on the list under the manufacturer's list but not under the name branded on the gun. So is it in fact an over under upland game assault weapon? 

Edit: never mind. It's on the list. But my Smith and Wesson pump Trap assault Weapon is not. 

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2 minutes ago, chinabald said:

Hmm. Mine was made by one company but branded and sold by another. It's on the list under the manufacturer's list but not under the name branded on the gun. So is it in fact an over under upland game assault weapon? 

Is it black?

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35 minutes ago, chinabald said:

Worse. It's Russian 

Uh oh, does Mueller know?

There are probably lots of people who are unaware of the existence of over/under upland game assault shotguns, just as they are unaware of the existence of .22 assault target plinkers like the flower gun.

43 minutes ago, chinabald said:

Edit: never mind. It's on the list. But my Smith and Wesson pump Trap assault Weapon is not. 

And assault pump shotguns, and assault bolt action rifles. But the shopping list contains long lists of exemptions for some of those guns, meaning the rest are assault weapons.

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On 6/8/2018 at 10:31 AM, Shootist Jeff said:

I have this shottie.  Its a Huglu from my last trip to Turkey.  Its not a pic of mine, but its the exact model and decorative work and stock. 

a9e7a7285d19ea69195ce5ab80aff749.jpg

Beautiful gun and it shoots well, although its nowhere as nicely machined and crafted as my Ruger Red Label.  The RRL is just total sex in an O/U.  

The Ruger Red Label is among the over/under upland fowl shotguns on the list of exempted guns.

Your Huglu, however, is an assault weapon. It's not on the list of exemptions.

Apparently a side by side version is not an assault weapon. Unless maybe you hold it sideways, gangsta style. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure what mad's gun is so there's no way to tell whether it's really an assault weapon.

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4 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

The Ruger Red Label is among the over/under upland fowl shotguns on the list of exempted guns.

Your Huglu, however, is an assault weapon. It's not on the list of exemptions.

Apparently a side by side version is not an assault weapon. Unless maybe you hold it sideways, gangsta style. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure what mad's gun is so there's no way to tell whether it's really an assault weapon.

It’s a Browning 525

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2 hours ago, mad said:

It’s a Browning 525

Page 84 of my shopping list:

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Browning Citori 525 Series

So it's specifically exempted and is NOT an assault weapon.

The weird part is: exempted from what? The S&W Victory .22 pistol is an assault weapon because of the threaded barrel. My wife's Ruger 10-22 is an assault weapon because of the telescoping stock. I can't see anything in the shotgun definitions that would cover your gun even if it were not specifically exempted.

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15 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

Your Huglu, however, is an assault weapon. It's not on the list of exemptions.

That might or might not be enough. As I said, I don't see anything in the definitions that would require an exemption for any of the bird guns pictured.

Not yet anyway. Perhaps they're planning ahead by putting the list there in anticipation of (again) defining "assault weapons" more broadly.

We've seen how that goes in California with their ever-shrinking "safe gun" list. Once the permitted guns are confined to a list, the task becomes simpler: trimming the list and confiscating previously-legal property.

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On 6/8/2018 at 5:31 AM, Uncooperative Tom said:

I'm wondering if the flower color issue will have any bearing on the important penis size issue.

We all know that someone whose assault weapon looks like this:

FN_SCAR_17S_Rotators_1--1800x897.jpg

Probably has a much, much smaller weenie than someone whose assault weapon looks like one of these:

marlin-assault-rifles.jpg

But what message regarding penis size does an assault weapon like the Victory .22 send? And does the flower color choice affect this?

(Asking for a friend, btw).

Now my friend wants to know if ammo matters. Specifically, does it have to be fancy sea salt or just normal iodized salt?

bug-a-salt.jpg

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