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This seems to be a reasonable place to ask this question:  We (at RMYC)  are in the planning stages of LCMR 2018.

Initially, we were gonna can the ocean race and just run the usual onshore races for race div and cruising div (sans extra sails) 

 

However, there was an outcry from the hundreds of active Australian offshore Multihull sailiors (yeah, right!) but we thought we’d atleast see if there was a desire by enough to make it viable. 

We need decent numbers (atleast 5, we already have atleast 3) to commit for us to run the ocean race. (Cat. 4) 

So, if we put it on who would like to and will be able to participate? (Yes, there’ll be OMR- but remember it’s a friendly regatta so we won’t be weighing boats but I’m happy to measure sails etc  if you have a fairly recent certified weight and inventory form etc) 

Also if you got any strong suggestions that would make it even more attractive to you- apart from mermaids and nymphs, of course, then speak up here or contact me via RMYC??

Cheers,
Stephen Barton. 

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Good one Pil. I hope you can make it.  What’s the boat that you bought and you’re sailing back from NZ via LHI? 

(A couple of little errors in my original post; Obviously “onshore” races was meant to read “inshore” races. And I’m Not sure why there’s question marks at the end. New proof reader required). 

Anyway, point is we need a few more boats to commit to the offshore race on the October long weekend Friday if we are to run it. 

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I will know more next week after a survey so I'd prefer not to say at this point

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Oooo Mr Pil ... exciting!

The lil Dessert boat will be there Sat/Sun barring misfortune/boat sold/more surgery ... ;-)

 

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Cool Mr Chidz. Plenty of questions there: misfortune, sold boat, surgery. Cripes! 

Well, if any of that comes to pass you can always sail with me if you need a lie down on a slow moving comfy couch or I might even pull my Oui Oui! out of mothballs.

Def 4 boats so far for offshore race.

Sat/ Sun 4 inshore races. Should be fun. All sorts of boats. Hopefully, foiling TF 10 will show up and show it’s wares if he dares. (I had to. It rhymes) 

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16 hours ago, LionIsland said:

Cool Mr Chidz. Plenty of questions there: misfortune, sold boat, surgery. Cripes! 

Well, if any of that comes to pass you can always sail with me if you need a lie down on a slow moving comfy couch or I might even pull my Oui Oui! out of mothballs.

Def 4 boats so far for offshore race.

Sat/ Sun 4 inshore races. Should be fun. All sorts of boats. Hopefully, foiling TF 10 will show up and show it’s wares if he dares. (I had to. It rhymes) 

Someone down under has TF10 on it's way...?

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1 hour ago, PIL007 said:

Someone down under has TF10 on it's way...?

Where u been pill? Tf is the new Mad Max 

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2 hours ago, plywoodboy said:

Where u been pill? Tf is the new Mad Max 

I've been away for quite a while... but I will know in a day or two if I'm back

Can't wait to see it

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1 hour ago, PIL007 said:

Ok .... I'm officially in

Ya can't drop a bombshell like that without letting the cat (or the tri) out of the bag! ^_^

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On 6/4/2018 at 7:45 PM, Jethrow said:

Ya can't drop a bombshell like that without letting the cat (or the tri) out of the bag! ^_^

Ok

I now own the Grainger 38 Ex- Cynophope now Panther and soon to be ....? 

So there it is.... I'm back

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19 minutes ago, PIL007 said:

Ok

I now own the Grainger 38 Ex- Cynophope now Panther and soon to be ....? 

So there it is.... I'm back

Congrats!

Where will she be sailing from?

 

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21 minutes ago, plywoodboy said:

Congrats!

Where will she be sailing from?

 

Cronulla

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2 hours ago, PIL007 said:

Ok

I now own the Grainger 38 Ex- Cynophope now Panther and soon to be ....? 

So there it is.... I'm back

When I look out the window at work I can see Panther and it was the boat I thought of when I first saw your post. Great to hear she'll be campaigned.

Also, hopefully I'll get my boat out for it's biannual or triannual LCMR.

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4 hours ago, PIL007 said:

Ok

I now own the Grainger 38 Ex- Cynophope now Panther and soon to be ....? 

So there it is.... I'm back

'Blown again'?  Or 'Just Blow'!

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4 hours ago, plywoodboy said:

Congrats!

Where will she be sailing from?

 

yeehah!

Wangi Nationals November 18-25 just up the road.

Cyathere.

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6 hours ago, plywoodboy said:

yeehah!

Wangi Nationals November 18-25 just up the road.

 

do we have confirmation of them yet?

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9 hours ago, plywoodboy said:

yeehah!

Wangi Nationals November 18-25 just up the road.

Cyathere.

Sounds good

9 hours ago, Rohanoz said:

'Blown again'?  Or 'Just Blow'!

Haha  "Blow Me Two" "Blow Me Again".....Everything I've ever raced in any sport I've had 66 race number so maybe just "66" 

No.. Not sure at this point but definitely not Panther

Suggestions...?

BTW .. Rohan... If I did Wangi would you be keen to crew...?

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Root 66... I didn't realise that panther was ex Cyno that had a stint (and a lot of work done, plus a capsize) in Tassie? Quick boat:)

 

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13 hours ago, PIL66 said:

Sounds good

Haha  "Blow Me Two" "Blow Me Again".....Everything I've ever raced in any sport I've had 66 race number so maybe just "66" 

No.. Not sure at this point but definitely not Panther

Suggestions...?

BTW .. Rohan... If I did Wangi would you be keen to crew...?

I'll steer if you like ;)

 

Yeah, I'd be keen - I'll pencil it in the calendar.

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If you call it 66, make sure it doesn’t end up being 99 !!

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As discussed in the other thread by Jethrow

Is anyone keen to weigh their boat for OMR at the LCM regatta...? 

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On ‎6‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 4:44 AM, Chidz said:

do we have confirmation of them yet?

its on chidz, details going live in the next couple of days.

 

 

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Looks like a fast fleet forming with Top Gun, Quickstep and Sixty Six at the front end of the fleet. It should be interesting for line honours between these three cats. I'd have to think Sixty Six has the most potential being the lightest and probably as powerful if not more so as in power to weight. Although Quickstep could be around the same weight as Sixty Six which id think would be around half the weight of Top Gun. As alway the Top Gun guys should sail this evergreen Lock Crowther cat well.

Any thoughts on this battle for Line Honours?

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1 hour ago, square top said:

Looks like a fast fleet forming with Top Gun, Quickstep and Sixty Six at the front end of the fleet. It should be interesting for line honours between these three cats. I'd have to think Sixty Six has the most potential being the lightest and probably as powerful if not more so as in power to weight. Although Quickstep could be around the same weight as Sixty Six which id think would be around half the weight of Top Gun. As alway the Top Gun guys should sail this evergreen Lock Crowther cat well.

Any thoughts on this battle for Line Honours?

Probably my poor googling skills, but I can't find any information on Sixty Six, what design is she? ... Actually, she'd be Pil's new boat, the Grainger? Good luck to all.

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Ah OMR.

For the LCMR we will accept and encourage reasonable proof of weighing and measuring but if boats have been chopped and changed, new sails added and/ or replacing old ones etc then it’s not fair to your fellow competitors and the class to try to use old numbers. 

With the LCMR we’re trying to encourage multi owners to 1) take an interest in offshore racing and all that that involves with, you know, sailing on nice long legs, amazing scenery, with marine life around, great racing and “bigger picture”  tactics, having a safe boat with reliable systems and practices on board (cat 4), while using waves and currents and a bit of navigation, 2) inshore racing fun for any cat 7 multi, encouraging not only some skill and competence in lining up for starts, boat handling, following a course, knowledge of the rules and simply to be involved in the socialisation of a regatta with a good number of multis where boats that have sailed above expectations and history get rewarded using PHS, and 3) for those interested, some semi-serious racing using OMR. 

So if you fancy yourself as a racer and want to participate in OMR pointscores in this and other regattas then you need to be more organised. Eg, boat optimised for racing, weighed and measured in advance of the regatta. 

Note that the Wangi regatta, not to mention more serious offshore racing such as Pittwater/ Coffs, Brissy/ Gladstone etc are not too far away where there’s a lot more emphasis on OMR. 

When it comes to measuring your boat for OMR “Rough enough is good enough” weakens the rule, and isn’t fair to you, your crew, your fellow competitors or the class in general.

Yes,  OMR is a fairly simple equation and brushes boat designs with a fairly broad brush but it is pretty easy to apply and the rule has proven to reward well designed and developed boats that are competently sailed and in that it has met it’s objectives and served the Multihull class well.

 There are people far more technically and mathematically minded than me who attest to it. 

When it comes to the more serious side of racing and competition, if that’s your thing, unless you sail in a one manufacturer One Design class (and they are not without a history of heaps of problems) then it’s just gonna take some forward planning, time, effort (eg weigh bridge for trailerables, recording and weighing equipment inventories, measuring hulls and sails) and possibly some expense (every few years for a crane for non trailerable and/or bigger boats- but not too bad if a bunch of boats do it together) and it’s definitely worth it, me thinks.

Point being, go on the MYCQ website, check out all the OMR stuff, get yourself sorted well in advance (I for one, being away until the LCMR regatta can’t be measuring sails and boats the day before this year’s regatta but very happy to help there after), get measured and let’s go racing. 

For the LCMR if you want to be included in the OMR pointscore (as well as the default Topyacht PHS one) and you can prove that your measurements and resulting OMR are relevant and true and you’re happy to present your boat’s measurements to your fellow competitors (and race organisers) then let’s weigh your crew, get your TCF and lets go (OMR) racing. 

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On 9/7/2018 at 12:26 PM, ALL@SEA said:

Probably my poor googling skills, but I can't find any information on Sixty Six, what design is she? ... Actually, she'd be Pil's new boat, the Grainger? Good luck to all.

 

On 9/7/2018 at 11:00 AM, square top said:

Looks like a fast fleet forming with Top Gun, Quickstep and Sixty Six at the front end of the fleet. It should be interesting for line honours between these three cats. I'd have to think Sixty Six has the most potential being the lightest and probably as powerful if not more so as in power to weight. Although Quickstep could be around the same weight as Sixty Six which id think would be around half the weight of Top Gun. As alway the Top Gun guys should sail this evergreen Lock Crowther cat well.

Any thoughts on this battle for Line Honours?

66 is a Graniger 11.2 "Panther" Design...  Ex Cynaphobe... Now with smaller rig and centre pod added.

 

Thanks for Square Top... Nothing like a bit of pressure..... 66 is a very new to me and crew. The boat has the potential and the gear but can we figure it out in time..... I hope so

We had our first race on Saturday and all went well with minimal breakage in 20 knots but a dying breeze.  

The boat will not be weighed in time unless someone has scales they can get me this week as it's getting slipped. All sails are measured now. I would like to ask to use the old OMR weight from the past as now I have added around 500kgs in a centre pod with 20hp honda motor and other comforts. 

We will see... 

There are other boats that will be competitive in Pittwater's small courses like Paul's Two Tribes.

The other thing is the weather has to cooperate for the delivery. 

Pil

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I saw two more cats I didn't recognise sail into RMYC this arvo. Starting to hot up on Pittwater!

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Pil et al, the actual scales (certified hanging single cell with remote read out) is the easy bit.

However, having something to hang it (and obviously the boat- derr) from/with, say a crane, is the  trickier bit. Well it’s not that tricky just a bit costly and needs organising but your boat (I believe) and most trailerables will hang from a “Franna.” 

So with the cell, either book ahead a little to rent a cell from a hire place, say Kennards, or get MYCQ’s one down here (I don’t know much about that one- Mr Hackett?) and we’ll hopefully make some  more use of it over the next month or so.  

Also, definitely read all the MYCQ guff online about OMR, weighing (eg sans all fuel and water, comprehensive inventory etc) and preferably have someone experienced and definitely an independent party to check it all out on weighday and help you make sure that you’ve checked all tanks and compartments are empty and are open for inspection and take plenty of photos and don’t forget to subtract the weight of chains, straps, people etc who are below the weigh cell. 

Anyway, if you don’t get it done pre LCMR bring your numbers with you and some way of showing us where those numbers come from and if we and your fellow colleagues/competitors are satisfied we might be able to use them. 

But I reiterate, I’m all for accuracy. However, if we don’t put them in the “official” OMR  pointscore we can still have some fun and plug ‘em in and see how things went.  

I think if you get the boat up to Pittwater and sail 4 races (or five including the offshore), weather permitting of course, have a beer or two, do the presentation etc and then get the boat and crew back home in one piece with out too much drama then that’s a bloody good effort with your “new boat” right there.  

Btw, we have a fair bit of performance hcp “history” for that (very nice) boat that we can transpose for your phs starting hcp. 

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On 9/12/2018 at 7:04 AM, LionIsland said:

Pil et al, the actual scales (certified hanging single cell with remote read out) is the easy bit.

However, having something to hang it (and obviously the boat- derr) from/with, say a crane, is the  trickier bit. Well it’s not that tricky just a bit costly and needs organising but your boat (I believe) and most trailerables will hang from a “Franna.” 

So with the cell, either book ahead a little to rent a cell from a hire place, say Kennards, or get MYCQ’s one down here (I don’t know much about that one- Mr Hackett?) and we’ll hopefully make some  more use of it over the next month or so.  

Also, definitely read all the MYCQ guff online about OMR, weighing (eg sans all fuel and water, comprehensive inventory etc) and preferably have someone experienced and definitely an independent party to check it all out on weighday and help you make sure that you’ve checked all tanks and compartments are empty and are open for inspection and take plenty of photos and don’t forget to subtract the weight of chains, straps, people etc who are below the weigh cell. 

Anyway, if you don’t get it done pre LCMR bring your numbers with you and some way of showing us where those numbers come from and if we and your fellow colleagues/competitors are satisfied we might be able to use them. 

But I reiterate, I’m all for accuracy. However, if we don’t put them in the “official” OMR  pointscore we can still have some fun and plug ‘em in and see how things went.  

I think if you get the boat up to Pittwater and sail 4 races (or five including the offshore), weather permitting of course, have a beer or two, do the presentation etc and then get the boat and crew back home in one piece with out too much drama then that’s a bloody good effort with your “new boat” right there.  

Btw, we have a fair bit of performance hcp “history” for that (very nice) boat that we can transpose for your phs starting hcp. 

Thanks 

We will go with the OMR number we know and if not official then no biggy. As you say, just happy to be there playing with you all again.

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Well, there were 7 starters and a very nice fleeting multis it was too. 

We started in a nice Nor’easter in Pittwater less than a mile from open ocean. Unfortunately, that wind dropped out and we were all left floundering in very annoyingly sloppy conditions. 

That would be all the boats bar one. 

I’ve done enough races against Top Gun now to know that the boat used to be fast but with the changes made to it and the way it is sailed it basically just fucks off into the distance every time, now. And so it was again!

Its rather annoying to be bouncing around in (barely any) wind over tide slop going nowhere not even a mile from the start and your competitor is already a little black dot on the horizon. 

Anyways, thevwind eventually started to fill in and all the boats then had some really nice sailing but as the wind built to 25 knots with a boisterous little seaway things changed.

Quickstep who were giving chase to Top Gun and was going pretty well  decided that the strong conditions were a bit much and  the cautious crew pulled out.  

The Raider, also going well, had bounced its bow sprit into the water with the usual damage to the front end that results from that fun exercise forcing them out. 

Nusa Dua, who was going really well doing his first ocean race on that boat was way way ahead of J’ouvert and 66 (ex cynaphobe, ex Panther) ran into something in the vicinity of where whales were sighted and the rig collapsed.

Bulletproof, who was the worst affected by the crap conditions at the start, pulled the pin about half way around when he realised that they weren’t possibly gonna make the five hour cutoff time. 

So up the big beat from Newport back to Maitland Reef J’ouvert and 66 were having their own private battle and we got a long and enjoyable view of a very spunky 38’ open bridgedeck catamaran charging upwind in full gear in 25 knots. Spectacular!! They slowed for what appeared to be only about 30 seconds putting a reef in the main. Slick. 

We rounded that top mark in close vicinity but by that stage we were desperately trying to find Nusa Dua to see if they needed assistance so we left the kite in the bag and just beelined it (at 15 knots) straight down wind and got to another no wind zone off the heads and parked again in slop.

By that stage we’d found out that Nusa had towed the resulting rig down schmozzle into Pittwater and was retrieving all the gear on deck in the calm waters behind Barrenjoey. 

Meanwhile Top Gun has finished long before and we finally got some wind and had a nice kite run down to the finish with 66, I suspect, left languishing in the slop for a bit longer. We were both well and truly outside the time limit and soon after packing up there was 40 knots blowing down Pittwater. 

Very odd conditions. 

So Top Gun was first (and I amuse myself by saying they were also last as they were the only boat to finish).

And very well done to them. 

Stephen (J’Ouvert)

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2 hours ago, overlay said:

Update....

Once again most multihulls have proved incapable of handling 25 knots in a short coastal race. WTF.  

I wonder if the custodians of the OMR will wake up and realise that the type of multi the rule favours is all fucked up.

OMR is not used in this race series so not sure how that is relevant 

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On 9/30/2018 at 9:55 AM, Hangtime said:

Results update please Lionisland?

Wazza. Full results posted soon possibly already as I write this. 

For the moment I can tell you this:

Quality fleet. 

Top Gun was quickest. Offshore, inshore, for sure. 

Shane, daughter Kimberley and regular Lukim Yu crew Estelle won the overall trophy (in the race division) in a last second and very generously supplied borrowed Corsair Sprint after Foxy had to return home to Wangi with further rudder development requirements after installation of new transoms last week. 

There was lots of good fun close racing and Pittwater was, I believe (but we’ll take the opinions of others, shall we?), a very good place for boat racing this weekend except for the ridiculousness of the wind (or lack thereof) at the beginning and end of the ocean race (off, ahem, Lion Island) which bookended some pretty full on conditions out there for most of the race.

As getting boats into ocean races (eg.B2G barely double figure entries) in Australia seems to be a challenge at the moment 7 boats starting (but with 2 having some spar damage including the unfortunate collapse of one 25 year old mast -that is probably now out of warranty- on a great old boat that is being run on a budget) was pretty encouraging. I think we will have some reasonable numbers in the future.

The stresses and strains on boats in those conditions at the speeds they’re doing is enormous but so is the satisfaction of racing in the ocean and competing in and completing (or atleast trying) ocean races.

Bouncing around and shaking the shit out of your boat in slop with no wind or charging along over, down and through waves in 30 knots can be heart rendering and very taxing on our beloved boats. Boats like Raider and 66 are really testing the limits of skill, engineering and maintenance in those conditions and it takes some balls (and to be happy to getting well wet) to be going out there in boats like that (including your green machine) 

You’ve gotta be pretty tough and really want to do it to enjoy it in that sort of boat otherwise it’s just hideous. 

But mainly I t’s a matter of building comraderie among competitors to get the numbers up. 

Oops, went off topic- again . 

Wazza, you would’ve had good racing against 66 and others. (Where the hell were you??!!)

Anyway, conditions were beautiful but Race 2 day 1 was prudently cancelled (besides, most had pulled the pin before the announcement was made) because it was well windy and no doubt there would’ve been damage and therefore possibly boats missing out on Sunday’s great racing in much more mild conditions. 

Presentation dinner and prizes were awesome. 

So there. Next year, maybe?  

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21 hours ago, Tony Considine said:

OMR is not used in this race series so not sure how that is relevant 

Actually, OMR has been used for many years in this series, and we encourage all boats to be OMR’d and included in that pointscore. 

However, the LCMR pointscore and trophy has always (that’s near on 25 years now) been awarded on the basis of PHS and a lot of effort goes into using data from history, OMR comparisons etc to set them right. 

This, we believe, is the way to attract boats of all designs, levels of development and sailors of all abilities. 

For us idiots who feel we have more to prove (aka hardcore racing heads) there’s always the OMR pointscore. 

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On 9/30/2018 at 2:26 PM, overlay said:

Update....

Once again most multihulls have proved incapable of handling 25 knots in a short coastal race. WTF.  

I wonder if the custodians of the OMR will wake up and realise that the type of multi the rule favours is all fucked up.

As to the relevance (and logic) of the above comments in response to:

a) a request for results update and,

b) what the OMR rule has to do with boats;

1)timing out or realising they would 

2 losing a 25 year old rig (quite possibly after hitting something big black and blubbery) or bouncing a bowsprit into the drink or 

3)or pulling out because they weren’t enjoying bashing the shit out of their large (and un Omr’d) boats. 

Well, I’ve got nuffin. 

 

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Let me declare at the outset I have nothing against OMR or those who love the theory. In fact the reality of the situation at the Crowther this year is that of the 11 boats starting in the racing division 7 were registered under OMR. Fine.  Now if we take those 7 boats and calculate the spread of corrected times over the 3 races we get a spread of about 22.8% from fastest to slowest. Not bad. Pretty tight in fact. However as Stephen has mentioned,  in running a successful regatta we are mostly interested in attracting boats as well as providing close racing. Hence our primary objective here at RMYC is to  create an enjoyable experience for all participants and judging from the feedback received so far this was achieved in spades. Finally, a comment about a boring, irrelevant "Ma and Pa" historically PHS-based regatta. With just a small amount of knowledge about the ACTUAL (as opposed to theoretical) relative boat performance, for those very same OMR registered 7 boats over the 3 races, the corrected time PHS spread is about 15.6%. Do the sums yourself if you like. Mission accomplished. Good close racing, great experience, happy customers, nothing whatsoever to do with rating systems nor should it.

Cheers

Alan

 

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As a former competitor at this regatta, all be it some years back now, it frustrates me and I'm sure others who are on the couch looking for the daily results. This is the only regatta that I'm aware of that in the past 5-10 years never makes results available until after the end of the regatta and that no one knows their PCF handicap until after the results are published. The sailing instructions states that results will be available on line on the Saturday night, which I couldn't find anywhere.

Any chance of one the organisers could advise why this regatta is done the way it is where this one off handicapping method of after the regatta is used?

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Yes, well, apologies for that and we’d love that too, but the forces of evil conspired against that happening. 

With the number of late boat and crew changes, gathering of OMR info is time consuming and various helpers (?) such as myself who got pulled out last minute with illness or spouse hospitalisation etc it all pretty much fell to one volunteer person (Alan) who, oddly enough, loves to sail in the regatta.

However, we’d be stoked if you wanted to be here to help organise it, and or participate. 

Also don’t forget it’s just a two day regatta, so there’s not much opportunity to get a roll on going. 

But the regatta is only in its infancy, and hopefully the next 25 years will see us getting it comes completely right. 

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Back at work now and I'm just dog tired

This regatta was a heap of fun for our first race on 66. Thanks to all that came and organised.

Our take..... The ocean race started with a very light breeze and then died. Some got out of the "Circle Of Doom" (COD) to the east and Top Gun got out to the west. We missed it but this was partly due to me not keeping momentum as I'm learning the boat.

Breeze kicked in from the NE and with 20 bags and a run out tide creating a very nasty short chop that was very hard on equipment and bodies. (BTW It would have been hard on any boat, mono or multi). The boat was launching into the air and through the next wave where we very nearly lost  our prodder by not having a halyard on. (I believe the Raider had the same issue). We rounded Maitland reef and had a blast run with Masthead A3 to Newport reef which I over shot letting J'Ouvert in front of me. J'Ouvert is sailed so well and pushed hard which was great to see.

The upwind leg for us was eventful with 2 x broken reef lines (Shit double braid with no friction rings) and mast jammer eating the Jib halyard case.... We got to the top and with full main and over 20 so we went with no kite.

We almost got back in but then the COD got us again and by the time we got out and up Pittwater we were informed of the cut off time.... 

Saturday after some repairs to the cases in the morning we just got to the start.. (2 minutes late) sailed the race with half boards due to the repairs and wet epoxy.  Of course our old friend COD turned up at Tailors mark... 

2nd race was cancelled with easily 30 knots which tested my 20hp to limit motoring home.

Sunday was a huge improvement and we were more competitive and learnt a lot as the day went on..

Great presentation dinner on sunday.

We sailed home to Cronulla with a great  NE breeze that helped top off a good regatta.

Thanks for all the help from all the locals and the spare halyard from Jason Gedes  (Funny guy)

Lastly. . .. . Darren on Top Gun was on fire, Stephen on J'Ouvert sailed a "cruising" boat around like a F40 and us... well we learned a shit ton. We will return.

Pil

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1 hour ago, square top said:

As a former competitor at this regatta, all be it some years back now, it frustrates me and I'm sure others who are on the couch looking for the daily results. This is the only regatta that I'm aware of that in the past 5-10 years never makes results available until after the end of the regatta and that no one knows their PCF handicap until after the results are published. The sailing instructions states that results will be available on line on the Saturday night, which I couldn't find anywhere.

Any chance of one the organisers could advise why this regatta is done the way it is where this one off handicapping method of after the regatta is used?

Dear couch sailor, if the implication in your post is that we "fiddle" the handicaps to derive a particular outcome, let me positively and honestly reassure you this is NEVER done. What happened this time with results not appearing Saturday night is that late boat and crew changes worked against having final starting OMR handicaps available to post Saturday night and as organiser I took the decision not to post "half" results (PHS) on their own and field questions from the OMR fraternity  "where's OUR results?" The PHS starting handicaps were set prior to Race 1, checked for sensibility and fairness following Race 1 AND NOT ALTERED from then on apart (obviously I hope) from race to race as determined by the TopYacht software settings. 

Alan (Xena)

 

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Thanks for the reports Steve and Pil.

Its a long way for me to sail to go to your regatta so im happy to relive it by reading all about it

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