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Hmmm. IJ getting pumped too, judging by the Noticeboard. 

S! Leg Amendment a couple of days ago.

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(a) The text of RRS 64.1 first paragraph is deleted and replaced with:

“When the IJ decides that a boat that is a party to a protest hearing has broken a rule the IJ may impose penalties other than disqualification and may make any other scoring arrangements it decides is equitable. A penalty shall be imposed whether or not the applicable rule was mentioned in the protest. If a boat has broken a rule when not racing the IJ shall determine whether to apply any penalty to the race sailed nearest in time to that of the incident or make some other arrangement. However,”

Gotta run. 

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"We just had confirmation of the race course--around Ireland, around the north of Scotland" but not which of the courses is confirmed.

at 6:20

 

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11 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Reaching for content be buggered stief. 

Like I had a dream last night where God said to me he would make sure any boat that had a livery of either Red or Yellow would not make the finish line of the next two legs. 

It took me an hour to work out that they are the only two colours not incorporated in Akzo's vomit like colour scheme. So I went, you beauty God, "so what is the price of your generosity"?

He simply said; "You have to forgive Randumb"

So gallop on Mr Ed.... Bouwe and Capey riding you are now really sick of those "empty feed bag" blues.

 

I can't stop laughing. Well done, Jack.

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Course is set (was Course 2)

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Course 2 - Pennant 2, Start - Mark 1 to port - Mark 2 to port - Mark 1 to port - Mark 3 to port –Mark 2 to Port - Leaving Gate - Mizen Head to Starboard – North Ronaldsay Lighthouse to Starboard - Trubaduren to port -Brede Bade to port - Buskar Gate - Botto to starboard - Vassakaren to port - Gaveskar gate - Gothenburg Channel Limits - Alvsborg Gate - ÄlvsborgBridge Finish

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13 hours ago, stief said:

We just had confirmation of the race course--around Ireland, around the north of Scotland" but not which of the courses is confirmed.

Word is Capey and Mr Ed are very happy as they reakon it fits their steady course.

Hello, I'm Mr. Ed 
A horse is a horse, of course, of course, 
And no one can talk to a horse of course 
That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed. 

Go right to the source and ask the horse 
He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse. 
He's always on a steady course. 
Talk to Mr. Ed. 

 

That is of course providing Bouwe doesn't lose his head.

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5 hours ago, despacio avenue said:

Yey!!! Washington Capitals win the Stanley Cup! Stief, their goalie is from a farm in Saskatchewan.

[OT] Goalie story. Can't recall if Mr Ed covered this contest, Jack ;) 

 

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On 5/29/2018 at 10:54 PM, southerncross said:

Brain working on all caffeinated cylinders. But tongue in cheek in case you missed it.

Sorry we missed it SC.

On 5/30/2018 at 4:08 PM, Terrorvision said:

The pressure is definitely on Brian T for this leg.

Please explain.

On 6/5/2018 at 4:10 PM, jack_sparrow said:

The Kiwi press is turning this leg into the Burling Tuke Show. The Dong might have something to say about that.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503448&objectid=12064260

 

Pesky devils those Kiwis.

On 6/6/2018 at 12:01 AM, southerncross said:

 

Thanks Chas.

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On 6/6/2018 at 12:58 PM, shanghaisailor said:

The Mapfre team would know about that - Telefonica hit one of them.

Wait a minute, wasn't Bowwe the skipper that day?

SS

Fuck me Shang. You told me you paid some creepy French/Chinese Exorcist USD$5,000 to evict the demons of the word "Telefonica" that have possessed you since the Dong left Itajai in exactly the same 1/2 position then crashed at the USA stopover, then a fender hit into Cardiff where the Clogs now want to steal the show.

Yet you can still now type that T word??? What's going on?? Can you get a refund? I hope so to at least to offset the cost of those sleeping pills you are now swallowing now by the bucket load.

Sleep well mate :-)

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1 hour ago, stief said:

Can't recall if Mr Ed covered this contest, Jack ;) 

Stief Mr Ed likes grass not ice, he is sleeping well, has his head on and is course focused.

On the other hand Charles and Xabi are having this recurring blood red nightmare since Itajai when they wake up every morning.

Someone is trying to mind fuck them is my guess.

 

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Cardiff in-Port about to start in 15 mins and no chatter here. Strange.

I haven't even looked for what the tide is doing. Anyone know?

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Looks like Akzo wasn't paying attention to the tide either... gave up the lead to DF, and now looking over their shoulder at Mapf.

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InPorts are like kissing your sister. Turner's brain fart of commissioning a multi for this bullshit was the genisus to his demise nothing else, no matter what is quoted.

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Yes SC - they used good course management for a commanding performance while extending.

Mapfre didn't to shabby either.

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Interesting stats. TBRU looks like they had the best VMG, but gave up too much by doing many more  maneuvers.

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3 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

So to put all kidding aside for a bit, now the Pre-start Presser.

Catching up--Witty trying to get a bet here was hilarious. Thanks for the post, Jack.

(Weather points were good to hear.)

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16 minutes ago, stief said:

Catching up--Witty trying to get a bet here was hilarious. Thanks for the post, Jack.

(Weather points were good to hear.)

Stief I haven't even watched that Presser vid I put up. There is a reason behind why they are what they are, but I will take that discussion to the future thread where it belongs.

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Oooops, only 23 posts or so, although there wan an in-port race ongoing? What'S wrong with you guys and gals???

By the way, who from here (here = SailingAnarchy VOR fan) except Shanghaisailor will be in Göteborg?

The presser summary:
 

 

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19 minutes ago, Rennmaus said:

Oooops, only 23 posts or so, although there wan an in-port race ongoing? What'S wrong with you guys and gals???

By the way, who from here (here = SailingAnarchy VOR fan) except Shanghaisailor will be in Göteborg?

The presser summary:

Can't speak for the others, but rushing around getting ready to head out to the boat for a few days trumps posting here. Wiill probably miss the start of Leg 10 too, unless the forecasted front comes through and can't be out sailing :P

Will be with you in spirit in Gotenburg, and would love to pick up a thank-you round (paypal? :lol:). Enjoy.

As for the presser, they kept the betting part and some of the gender points, but the final minutes were --- incomplete?

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12 minutes ago, stief said:

Can't speak for the others, but rushing around getting ready to head out to the boat for a few days trumps posting here. Wiill probably miss the start of Leg 10 too, unless the forecasted front comes through and can't be out sailing :P

Will be with you in spirit in Gotenburg, and would love to pick up a thank-you round (paypal? :lol:). Enjoy.

As for the presser, they kept the betting part and some of the gender points, but the final minutes were --- incomplete?

"Will be with you in spirit in Gotenburg, and would love to pick up a thank-you round (paypal? :lol:). Enjoy."
Thanks, and no way (paypal)! Most of my stuff will be on SA.de, but I'll drop in here whenever I can.

Enjoy your time on the boat :wub: 

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Haha. Machine trans of latest Tip and Shaft form guide

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# 1 VOLVO OCEAN RACE: THREE QUESTIONS FOR A WINNER 

After Cardiff's In-Port Race won Friday by Dongfeng Race Team ahead of Mapfre and Brunel , the tenth and penultimate stage of the Volvo Ocean Race rushes Sunday to Gothenburg before a final stage to the Hague (starting on 21st of June). With three teams in three points overall, Dongfeng Race Team ,Mapfre and Brunel, the outcome of this 2017-2018 edition has never been so uncertain. How dynamicare the three teams? What strategies to adopt? Does the format of the last two stages favor one crew more than another? Tip & Shaft interviewed four specialists: the winner of the event Ian Walker,winner in 2015 on Abu Dhabi , Thomas Rouxel, who ran a stage on Brunel , Nicolas Lunven , navigator on Turn the Tide on Plastic , and Gilles Chiorri , team manager of AkzoNobel . 

How dynamic are the three teams? 

Indisputably, the dynamic since mid-race is favorable to Team Brunel who, after being 17 points behind Auckland on Mapfre , then leader, returned to three points of Dongfeng , now in the lead, and two of Mapfre , by the grace of his victories at Itajai and Cardiff and his second place at Newport."Until Auckland, Mapfre and Dongfeng were the main actors of this edition, since Brunel has clearly regained speed and inspiration, " confirms Gilles Chiorri, while Nicolas Lunven adds: " Brunel is the team that has made the most progress on this Volvo , having experienced some setbacks at the start.In the final stages, they are more than in the game, whether in speed or strategy, we feel a good symbiosis on board . A progression that is partly explained, according to Thomas Rouxel, who ran and won the Auckland-Itajaí stage, by the serenity broadcast to his crew by skipper Bouwe Bekking , seven Volvo on the clock (but no win): "Bouwe never gets upset, I saw a video of the arrival in Newport where he was very disappointed to be overtaken by Mapfre , this is the first time I've seen him like that. he is always very positive and it is felt on the crew, it is really an asset " . 

In contrast, Mapfre , having dominated the first part of the race, first in Cape Town and Melbourne, is on a reverse dynamic, fifth in Itajai and Cardiff, very happy winner in Newport. "They had a lot of success in Newport, otherwise the game would already be over for them," said Ian Walker. "Even if they do not let anything sweat, it is probably the team that has the most doubts , they were not very fast on the last stage," notes Gilles Chiorri, while Thomas Rouxel An explanation for this sharp drop in speed is: " They are a bit burnt, they had a policy of not changing crews all the time, I do not think it was a good option . " The Spaniards, however, seem to retain some ability to return, as shown by their perf of this Friday, where they finish 2nd after choosing the wrong side of the water at the start. 

What about the current leader, Dongfeng ? "At the accounting level, they are in an interesting position, they have a small margin, especially with the bonus point that is promised [attributed to the team with the best time accumulated on the entire Volvo, Ed]. it's the fastest boat, even if they made some big mistakes, assures Ian Walker.The good thing for them, considering their position, is that if they finish behind Brunel and Mapfre in Gothenburg, they will still have a chance on the last leg. " For Gilles Chiorri, " Dongfeng has no reason to catch fire : they are very consistent, have a strong desire to win a stage and have the best cumulative time point" . And their victory this afternoon in Cardiff's In-Port Race can only put them in confidence. 

What strategy to adopt on the last two steps? 

The Dongfeng-Mapfre duel turned into a match for three, difficult for the teams in contention for the final victory to define a specific strategy on the end of Volvo, including the leader, Dongfeng , who necessarily has the most to to lose . " If we look at the final stages, Mapfre and Dongfeng have probably spent 30,000 miles looking at each other and that's one of the reasons Brunel was able to come back ," says Ian Walker " If it were me, I would try to go as quickly as possible in the first 24 hours and see what happens next, if you are in front of the other two at that time, of course, you keep an eye on them, but if you do it from the start, you can very easily find you in the back of the fleet, it's a bit like what happened on the last edition between Lisbon and Lorient: the girls of SCA [who had won the stage, Ed] had certainly sailed well, but they had also benefited from the fact that the others had spent their time to score. " In the game tips, Nicolas Lunven adds: " I'm probably a little player, but if I was in place of Dongfeng , I would try to sail as free as possible without marking a particular boat. In my opinion, we should not focus too much on this notion of marking, at least on this first stage " . 

What about the strategy of Brunel who, in the last stages, was just enough player, which allowed him to return to the game? "They were sailing quite freely so far, I think it will be less the case, it will become more difficult for them to attack, " said Thomas Rouxel, relayed by Gilles Chiorri: "I do not think Brunel has a They have a strong intention to open the risk box, because they have proven they are pretty fast, they will try to stay in the lead pack and find an opportunity . " Based on his experience, Ian Walker concludes: "On the last edition, we had been on the podium from all stages to Newport, so we started to look at the other boats and we started sailing very badly, so I think they should keep their freedom to do, because if they want to win, they have to beat Dongfeng on the last two stages . " 

Does the short format of the last two steps favor one team more than another? 

1,300 miles between Cardiff and Gothenburg, 700 between Sweden and The Hague: the last two stages are like essentially coastal sprints that make Ian Walker skeptical of everyone's chances of shining: "We do not know who will be the strongest on these coastal stages, very different, during which it is necessary to make decisions much faster : it is not every 4-5 hours, but every 20 minutes it will be necessary to decide " . 

In this game, the experience of the field but also of these coastal sleeves, type Solitaire du Figaro, can be an asset according to Gilles Chiorri, especially for Dongfeng : "They have for me the keys to perform , especially on the first stage It's a bit like a stage of the Solitaire, with choices between going ashore or off, current reversals, many transition phases and crossings, there is a real work of navigator. [Bidégorry, the navigator, Ed] likes to play in the pebbles, he masters the currents, he has been to the school of Figaro for a long time, it can help.And they have a very good coach and navigator on the ground, Marcel Van Triest, we can imagine that the road book will be well prepared. Nicolas Lunven on his side, relativizes the possible advantage of the field: "It is inevitably a small help to have sailed in these corners, as Charles or Pascal did, but Andrew Cape [navigator of Brunel, NDLR ] lives in England, he had to make a package of Fastnet, the Spanish have also come here to sail, I would not put any advantage on that point. " 
First verdict next weekend ...

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1 hour ago, stief said:

Can't speak for the others, but rushing around getting ready to head out to the boat for a few days trumps posting here. Wiill probably miss the start of Leg 10 too, unless the forecasted front comes through and can't be out sailing :P

Have a enjoyable cruise. We - My son, an old service bud and another old friend are heading out on the early AM tide on Tuesday as well, for mosey up the inside passage to Alaska, be back sometime near the end of July. Will have to follow the race sporadically when we get a cell signal.

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Added to the pre-start playlist:

VNR 8 June, interview in Spanish, Xabi Fernández, Mapfre
VNR 8 June, interview in French, Charles Caudrelier, Dongfeng
VNR 8 June, interview in Chinese, Liu Xue 'Black', Dongfeng
 

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13 hours ago, Rennmaus said:

Oooops, only 23 posts or so, although there wan an in-port race ongoing? What'S wrong with you guys and gals???

Personally recovering from Stanley Cup celebrations
 

 

 

18 hours ago, stief said:

[OT] Goalie story. Can't recall if Mr Ed covered this contest, Jack ;) 

 

Stief, Actually I was referring to the Caps star goalie, Braden Holtby, from Lloydminster.  But yeah, Stephenson also.

18 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Word is Capey and Mr Ed are very happy as they reakon it fits their steady course.

Hello, I'm Mr. Ed 
A horse is a horse, of course, of course, 
And no one can talk to a horse of course 
That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed. 

Go right to the source and ask the horse 
He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse. 
He's always on a steady course. 
Talk to Mr. Ed. 

 

That is of course providing Bouwe doesn't lose his head.

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Jack, Stop with the Mr. Ed stuff. I now cannot get those frickin' lyrics out of my head, in addition to the Godfather horse head in the bed and of course the Brunel horse head (love that one though).

13 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Stief I haven't even watched that Presser vid I put up. There is a reason behind why they are what they are, but I will take that discussion to the future thread where it belongs.

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Pretty much characterizes the skippers' pressers, though Witty and Dee (with her blunt honesty, which she was obviously quite well aware of its intended effect re MF crews in this VOR) did add a little levity and non-rote responses to predicted, albeit a couple of awkward questions. 

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Ian Walker and Richard Mason good adds to race commentary.  IW as noted very pro DF. 

Some good strategic racing. Good manuevers. The best shots were from a drone on the last leg. Not enough big picture shots overall.

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15 hours ago, Rennmaus said:

Oooops, only 23 posts or so, although there wan an in-port race ongoing? What'S wrong with you guys and gals???

By the way, who from here (here = SailingAnarchy VOR fan) except Shanghaisailor will be in Göteborg?

The presser summary:
 

 

Charles did explain his crew changes for this leg.

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17 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

InPorts are like kissing your sister. Turner's brain fart of commissioning a multi for this bullshit was the genisus to his demise nothing else, no matter what is quoted.

Yeah, that decision was particularly nuts.

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4 hours ago, despacio avenue said:

Jack, Stop with the Mr. Ed stuff. I now cannot get those frickin' lyrics out of my head, in addition to the Godfather horse head in the bed and of course the Brunel horse head (love that one though).

Yeah it is infectious...someone I know in the  US got off a drink driving charge reciting the lyrics word perfect and quickly while hanging onto his car so he didn't fall over, knowing he was a fail if was asked to do the walk a straight line test. He said the two cops pissed themselves laughing.

I remember as kid glued to the B&W TV thinking my horse must be a dumb prick as he couldn't talk.

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16 hours ago, boomer said:

Have a enjoyable cruise. We - My son, an old service bud and another old friend are heading out on the early AM tide on Tuesday as well, for mosey up the inside passage to Alaska, be back sometime near the end of July. Will have to follow the race sporadically when we get a cell signal.

Boomer,

Have a great cruise. If you have been there before, you know it's gorgeous scenery, great wildlife, there. Take a Sat phone, is my recc.

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Thanks Despacio - Yes both cruised and done deliveries. Many of the fisherman use Sat phones, but only use them if they really need to or to let a crewman call home.

We usually have enough to stay busy, without having to rely getting on the net -  when near a town, do get on the net, it's just to check the weather or download videos.

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Some Mapfre IVs added, the first is in English:

VNR 8 June, interview, Xabi Fernández, Mapfre
VNR 8 June, interview in Spanish, Xabi Fernández, Mapfre
VNR 8 June, interview in Basque, Xabi Fernández, Mapfre
VNR 8 June, interview in Gallego, Tamara Echegoyen, Mapfre
VNR 8 June, interview in Catalan, Joan Vila, Mapfre
 

 

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Horsing around with some Table stats.

Since Auckland there has been a max of 38 points up for grabs. Xabi has scored 20, Charles has collected 26 and Bouwe has chalked up 36. 

Can Mr Ed keep this purple patch going?

Can the Red Tide really afford to go back to shadowing each other?

Can the Paintwaggon screw up the trifecta party and finish on the Podium?

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^ Will DongFeng ever win a leg?

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3 hours ago, Sailbydate said:

^ Will DongFeng ever win a leg?

Sail statistically the Dong don't have to but first that probably means relying on others down the table below Mr Ed to blitz the next remaining leg or two to assist that. I can't see that happening from anyone other than the Paintwaggon.

Secondly I have a feeling Mr Ed's #1 purple patch is over, though they will do well, but that won't be good enough.

Finally it will require the guy second on the left at the Skippers presser in pic below having to admit at the Hague he fucked up with limited crew rotation on the Spanish Fly.

The latter is the most interesting question as Xabi watches nearly everyone else load up with short course Euro talent (and for the Dong maintain a Chinese crew member policy) for the next two  legs and he is not varying his consistent crew approach.

I'm a betting man like Witty so I'm going for the two bloke's who actually look like the statues in the Skipper's Presser and have a belief in their team building methodology. The rest simply had basalt masks on.

Firstly, the 4th basalt jawed guy from the left will create some Points Table mayhem and that will impact on Mr Ed more than the Red Tide. I think the Paintwaggon have the edge getting out of the Bristol Channel and just this small section could be instrumental to the entire leg outcome. They also have had the least amount of crew rotation behind Mapfre of all teams at the front of the bus. I put a lot of stock in that in shorter legs.

Secondly, the guy second from the left since leaving Auckland has picked up 6 less points than the Dong and 16 less than Mr Ed. Yet when you drill down into that you start with a blown main at the Horn, had to be at the pointy end to pick up lucky #1 in Newport and then to Cardiff a major tactical error by Vila gybing north too late to follow the Dong instead of keeping south and sticking with Mr Ed and the Paintwaggon.

Then if you crank back a leg or three to find a comparison to the next two legs, the sprint down the east coast of NZ comes to mind. The Spanish Fly made everyone else look as they were dragging a bucket then.

So my prediction is it will come down to Mr Ed and the Dong/Telefonica fighting for a end of race podium. Number 1 and Number 3 are in the bag me thinks.

That prediction does not sit well with me as nothing I would like to see more is Mr Ed carry his two aging jockeys over the line in the Hague and they get a well deserved reward for their long contribution in this their last RTW crewed outing.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Sailbydate said:

^ Will DongFeng ever win a leg?

Now would be a good time for them to do so. Their apparent raw boatspeed has got them out of trouble before and dis again in the Cardiff in-port leg. good tactical ability also helped them deal with Akzo.

I believe this leg will be more about reading tides and land effects than others, who will come out top in that battle alongside the required boatspeed.

Coming down to the vinegar stokes now

SS

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12 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Sail statistically the Dong don't have to but first that probably means relying on others down the table below Mr Ed to blitz the next remaining leg or two to assist that.

Secondly I have a feeling Mr Ed's #1 purple patch is over, though they will do well.

Finally it will require the guy second on the left at the Skippers presser in pic below having to admit at the Hague he fucked up with limited crew rotation on the Spanish Fly.

The latter is the most interesting question as Xabi watches nearly everyone else load up with short course Euro talent (and for the Dong maintain a Chinese crew member policy) for the next two  legs and he is not varying his consistent crew approach.

I'm a betting man like Witty so I'm going for the two bloke's who actually look like the statues in the Skipper's Presser and have a belief in their team building methodology. The rest simply had basalt masks on.

Firstly, the 4th basalt jawed guy from the left will create some Points Table mayhem and that will impact on Mr Ed more than the Red Tide. I think the Paintwaggon have the edge getting out of the Bristol Channel and just this small section could be instrumental to the entire leg outcome. They also have had the least amount of crew rotation behind Mapfre of all teams at the front of the bus. I put a lot of stock in that in shorter legs.

Secondly, the guy second from the left since leaving Auckland has picked up 6 less points than the Dong and 16 less than Mr Ed. Yet when you drill down into that you start with a blown main at the Horn, had to be at the pointy end to pick up lucky #1 in Newport and then to Cardiff a major tactical error by Vila gybing north too late to follow the Dong instead of keeping south and sticking with Mr Ed and the Paintwaggon.

Then if you crank back a leg or three to find a comparison to the next two legs, the sprint down the east coast of NZ comes to mind. The Spanish Fly made everyone else look as they were dragging a bucket then.

So my prediction is it will come down to Mr Ed and the Dong fighting for a end of race podium. Number 1 and Number 3 are in the bag.

That prediction does not sit well with me as nothing I would like to see more is Mr Ed carry his two aging jockeys over the line in the Hague and they get a well deserved reward for their long contribution in this their last RTW crewed outing.

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Do you have a code breaking manual to go along with that post Jack?

Charles has a renewed determination, Newport got to him and probably to Bowwe as well but this is a time for the fire to grow not a flegmatic Dutch approach. I also think that Xabi's guys have let the flame die a little - same crew all the way round? Bound to be some tired people on board.

Am I biased? Shit yeah!

Not much sleep in the days ahead - in some ways Damn the live tracker ha ha! Especially as they approach the Scottish West Coast into waters I remember well I will be willing them on all the way and don't forget TTOP. Didn't Brian Thomson hold the Round Britain & Ireland record at one point? maybe that's your wild card.

SS

 

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12 minutes ago, shanghaisailor said:

Do you have a code breaking manual to go along with that post Jack?

Charles has a renewed determination, Newport got to him and probably to Bowwe as well but this is a time for the fire to grow not a flegmatic Dutch approach. I also think that Xabi's guys have let the flame die a little - same crew all the way round? Bound to be some tired people on board.

Am I biased? Shit yeah!

Not just biased but with no substantiating argument other than weasel words like determination, Dutch can't spit phlegm and flames growing and some dieing out???

Shang that Dong/Telefonica Hoodoo thing is really playing with your mind :-)

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Tea leaves, Voodoo and suportering aside, simple truth is that this is a very close race. Agree top three seems reasonably well locked in, but the order of the final standings is completely open. These short legs will be testing and tricky. It will be very easy to loose 3 or 4 places over your nearest rival with one bad descision and no runway to claw back the deficit.

I am expecting Vestas to show its head again at the sharp end of the fleet. They need something to redeem themselves and somehow I feel the shorter legs may suit them.

On the one hand it is great to see that it is still all on for the win during the last legs, but a nostalgic corner of my heart finds it a little sad that the race was not decided during the long ocean legs. Though, if Brunel wins one could argue that they put down the basis for victory on the last 2 double points legs.

 

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9 minutes ago, Zander said:

Tea leaves, Voodoo and suportering aside.....I am expecting Vestas to show its head again at the sharp end of the fleet. They need something to redeem themselves... 

Zander you get the combined monthly contradiction and tautology prize with that. Not even Randumb has won that medal. It is put up with conviction time.

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I'm thinking the Scallywags have a big one coming up. It's way past time they got lucky again.

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29 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

I'm thinking the Scallywags have a big one coming up. It's way past time they got lucky again.

Sail the reality is that Scally were not in the hunt at Day 1. The HK leg was a weather routing aberation and the Auckland leg really gutsy routing by Libby but supported by one other team, who beat them, then with Libb helped by a lucky Doldrums crossing.

The really great thing about Witty's team is like Dee they both have blooded people like this guy which ordinarily would not get a ride in a top tier RTW event.

People like Beatles here are the future of this race. Hats off to both Scally and Dee for investing in the future wider than most who are intent on and have the means to chase the big prize.

 

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

Zander you get the combined monthly contradiction and tautology prize with that. Not even Randumb has won that medal. It is put up with conviction time.

I am happy to take any prices going.

Maybe it would be slightly less contradictory if I clarified that the first para referred to the overall leaderbard and the Vestas thing to the individual legs coming up. As far as tautology, forgive a none native speaker pre-coffee :).

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23 minutes ago, Zander said:

Maybe it would be slightly less contradictory if I clarified that the first para referred to the overall leaderbard and the Vestas thing to the individual legs coming up.

Zander it is not you but I have a very strong aversion to Team Vestas who has not finished three legs but still sit atop the leaderboard of two teams, one who has completed every leg and one save for a guy not making it dropped one.

A shit scoring system.

I suspect in the future we will see the ability to drop one bad score to be comensurate with wanting people to push the  envelope, but then punish non finishers after that one get out of jail free card to avoid the inequitable scoring nonsence of this edition.

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11 minutes ago, Francis Vaughan said:

Interesting poster/pic for the next leg from SHKS.  Note the billing credits.

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Pedro only lasted one leg?

I guess he has been replaced by Jack Macartney.

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Watching the live coverage from the race village and it looks like there is plenty of space to swing a cat! The Abu Dhabi start I went to was busier and the people of Abu Dhabi give zero fucks about sailing. 

Cardiff on a sunny Sunday isn't a far run from the Mecca of British sailing along the south coast or many of the lakes and clubs up to the Midlands.

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47 minutes ago, yl75 said:

Why starting so late ?

Tide is max outgoing during the start time. It would be an anchor show with the tide against them if there was no wind.

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Anybody know how if there is a proper youtube live feed that can be cast?   Any way to throw the video from either the app or the website? 

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Weather routing leg 10 at start

 

input

- GFS 0,25 degrees

- 1 hour timesteps

- routing start 1615 UTC due to some racing around the cans first

- routing finish to Trubaduren, the waypoint/lighthouse 10 nm west of Gothenburg. Add another 1 or 2 hours on the ETA for that depending on the tide and wind at that time.

- I forced the routing outside of Lewis and Harris Island as advised in the thread earlier by Shanghai Sailor and Tunnel Rat.

output

- 5 days sailing.

- ETA evening of the 15th. 

- Some serious close hauled sailing projected at the NW of Ireland (30 knots avg) and below the Shetlands (30 knots avg).

Leg 10 start.jpg

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4 minutes ago, Rennmaus said:

Does anyone have sound?

nothing for them to say :-)

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2 minutes ago, Admirals said:

earliest programme start 16:10 UTC... 

1610 local, 1510 UTC. Although now amended to start show at 1615 local, in about 10 minutes.

 

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I missed the start of the leg, only a replay of the line crossing in slow-mo. How did Dongfeng manage to get that far behind after that?

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13 minutes ago, Hydrogene said:

I missed the start of the leg, only a replay of the line crossing in slow-mo. How did Dongfeng manage to get that far behind after that?

slow.PNG

Not sure, was watching Nadal butchering the poor Thiem, but indeed impressive that they managed to get behind even TTOP ..

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