Herman

VOR Leg 10 Cardiff to Gothenburg

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5 minutes ago, Mambo Kings said:

Heart breaking for Charles and team.  Hope they can get back up to pace .

See my post upthread. They may have had a woopsie.

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11 minutes ago, gelbrossi said:

They are sailing in daylight for at least 5 hours.

 

try about 15

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6 minutes ago, JeronimoII said:

DF consistently 1-2 knots slower than the top 5. Breakage?

was thinking they might have broke a sail or something, but looking at the speeds in pro mode, you don't see any significant point on this north sea crossing

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14 minutes ago, Mambo Kings said:

If Brunel passes Mapfe it changes everything, we go from:

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TO....................

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Can you imagine???? A three way tie going into the last leg?

 

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Or even this.......

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That's it, DF now 5th, the ambiance on the boat ...

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Weather updates due any time will be interesting.

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0.1 mile.....they are basically on top of each other now . Mapfre playing Defense.  Its daylight so its hard for Brunel to be hiding any secrets.

Its brutal hand-to-hand combat in 33 knots of breeze.  Very hard to overtake. Brunel controls the angles.....they should push forward to keep the separation from 3rd and wait the opportunity.

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8 minutes ago, paps49 said:

Or even this.......

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You are missing DF's bonus point for fastest elapsed time. It really matters at this stage of the race.

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5 minutes ago, yl75 said:

was thinking they might have broke a sail or something, but looking at the speeds in pro mode, you don't see any significant point on this north sea crossing

If it's not a breakage or a sail ripped to threads, it must be the crew venting of steam (reef/peel more). Weather conditions in the 2 deck action vids I saw were brutal. Like I posted up-thread a bit earlier; a superbe test for the determination and stamina of the crews. May the best win!

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14 minutes ago, yl75 said:

was thinking they might have broke a sail or something, but looking at the speeds in pro mode, you don't see any significant point on this north sea crossing

Maybe something happened to one of their sails that caused this little kink in their track 3 hours ago

3 hours ago, paps49 said:

I've been wondering if this little jig had something to do with it?

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It's hardball up the front alright.

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Just now, paps49 said:

It's hardball up the front alright.

No kidding. zig zagging up and down, trying to find a lane .

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Mapfre is losing this fight and instead of carting the Bananas off to leeward should be worrying about the Paintwagon.

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5 minutes ago, albanyguy said:

Maybe something happened to one of their sails that caused this little kink in their track 3 hours ago

 

Nice find! That NE track is 0,25 nm long before DFRT reverses their ESE course within 2 minutes. Look at the TWS at that moment - 37,5 knots. That's a windforce 8 on the scale. I think they had trouble controlling the boat. Two minutes seem very short if a sail was ripped to cut away the remaining stuff.

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DongFeng definitely wounded I reccon.

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3 minutes ago, paps49 said:

DongFeng definitely wounded I reccon.

DongFeng has been 2 knots slower than the rest of the fleet for a good part of the night. I hid Scally's line, not in same wind.

Now we need to wait to hearing from them to know what's wrong onboard... 

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This is mesmerizing watching on the 3D tracker zoomed in as far as it can go watching Brunel inch up then possibly get into a bit of bad air then Mapfre gains back 50m.

Not getting anything done at work!!!

Edit: Brunel within 200m now and getting closer

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11 minutes ago, Herman said:

Nice find! That NE track is 0,25 nm long before DFRT reverses their ESE course within 2 minutes. Look at the TWS at that moment - 37,5 knots. That's a windforce 8 on the scale. I think they had trouble controlling the boat. Two minutes seem very short if a sail was ripped to cut away the remaining stuff.

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This is between Gudrun and Miller platforms.

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Feel like Brunel are the peoples champions at the moment.  Hope they don't fucking break it.

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Finally Brunel has said fuck that we're going for this big rocky thing!

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Seems the GFS model has the current wind speed (30 to 38 knots) better modeled @ 33 kts than the ECMWF @ 28 kts. When trusting the GFS model more atm, ETA could be just before midnight. Tricky passage from waypoint Trubaduren bottom-left to the finish. And 25 kts of wind SSW.

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MAPFRE fighting back. They're not done, by a long shot.

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55 minutes ago, N1772 said:

This is between Gudrun and Miller platforms.

That is also a good thought, but when looking at the Navioncs chart overlay zoomed-in there is no platform to sail around. When they changed to a NE course, they were heading for a well +/- 6 nm further to the NE before reversing course again.

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Brunel have closed up again and were on windward hip of Mapfre and then dived down to leeward.

Edit: Now about 100m dead astern.  It's on!!!

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Brunel a BIG dive to leeward. Mapfre followed them down. They are side by side.

Edit: Brunel BIG move to windward, Mapfre luffing up.

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Does one-design racing ever get better than this before the VO65's get dumped for the flying Imoca's? Looks like TBRU is alongside to MAPFRE, windward side. 

 

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1 minute ago, yl75 said:

Is DF waking up a bit ?

Indeed, noted that their avg boatspeed has gone up

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I think Brunel and MAPFRE are manoeuvring for boarding action and hand-to-hand combat. 

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Jeesus this is crazy. If it wasn't for the 30knts of breeze Pete and Blair would probably be discussing fishing spots or tactics for the next Americas Cup.

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Meanwhile, The Paintpot is mounting a flanking action of its own. Better not lose the war to win the battle, BRUNEL and MAPFRE.

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Wow.

Whatever happened to DFRT, RaceExperts aren't saying

 

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I have grave fears for upcoming sleep depravation!

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4 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

Meanwhile, The Paintpot is mounting a flanking action of its own. Better not lose the war to win the battle, BRUNEL and MAPFRE.

Agreed. How many times does a personal battle favour the boats behind? Perhaps Blair, Justin and Brad will soon be discussing  their favourite spearfishing spots in the BOI?

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This is the battle we missed in the Southern Ocean while MAPF was competing with a cunningham

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3 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

Meanwhile, The Paintpot is mounting a flanking action of its own. Better not lose the war to win the battle, BRUNEL and MAPFRE.

I think Mapfre have been guilty of that  for a while.

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Note to BRUNEL. Just sail it like you stole it guys. No heroics needed.

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Distance to finish is what, about 240 -250nm?

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Gotcha.

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2 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

Gotcha.

as TBRU said to MAPF :D

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Grind, MAPF, grind! You know how to do this.

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Amazing effort. Got their noses in front..Maybe with the pressure off Mapfre can hang on to them and look for an opportunity down course...

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Just now, Sea Breeze 74 said:

Time for MPRE to luff BRU?  :ph34r:

 

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Too late. TBU clear ahead on that last surf

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1 minute ago, Sea Breeze 74 said:

Time for MPRE to luff BRU?  :ph34r:

 

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Too late. Brunel are through

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3 minutes ago, Murph said:

Amazing effort. Got their noses in front..Maybe with the pressure off Mapfre can hang on to them and look for an opportunity down course...

If BRUNEL gas 'em Murph, they'll be off like a rocket, flaming their afterburners.

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5 minutes ago, Sea Breeze 74 said:

TBH, I'm surprised it took this long.

As Mambo said, daylight and MAPF can see the beast mode. Question now is whether they have experience using it 

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Can't wait to see what the OBR's captured of that battle

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1 minute ago, albanyguy said:

Can't wait to see what the OBR's captured of that battle

Maybe their respective drones are locked in a dogfight, AG?

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9 minutes ago, stief said:

 

Broadcast has ended

 

 

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Néti speaks. "They are faster"

 

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3 minutes ago, Herman said:

Broadcast has ended

Right. Then the Live switched to Conrad and (clench) Niall. Sending out the heli, apparently.

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That TSS is not an exclusion zone according to the SI's, but sailing through it not at an almost 90 degrees angle is prohibited AFAIK.

 

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Posted (edited)

Brunel has the afterburners still on, already a 0,2 nm lead on MAPFRE within 20 minutes of being alongside with each other

Edit 0,3 nm - MAPFRE giving up the fight?

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wow 0,3 nm lead

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It's more like watching F1.

The Dong seems to have sorted themselves.

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MAPFRE back in front.

 

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DF passed TTOP, la remontada on its way ? :)

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And in boats that must be getting close to 100, 000 miles on them!

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Can any Kiwis smarter than me advise an approx finish time? I have to work tomorrow so can't follow this through blindly to the end! Will happily set my alarm tho ...

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10 minutes ago, Herman said:

Edit 0,3 nm - MAPFRE giving up the fight?

Regrouping?

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1 minute ago, Sea Breeze 74 said:

Can any Kiwis smarter than me advise an approx finish time? I have to work tomorrow so can't follow this through blindly to the end! Will happily set my alarm tho ...

About 210nm to go at 20knots. So that's what? 8:00am Friday. Might as well stay up all night, SB.

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Tracker crystal ball says 2018.06.14 20:39:12 UTC but the routing stops before the last bit to enter Gothenburg

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3 minutes ago, Sea Breeze 74 said:

Can any Kiwis smarter than me advise an approx finish time? I have to work tomorrow so can't follow this through blindly to the end! Will happily set my alarm tho ...

My guesstimate is around midnight CEST,  that is UTC + 2. So +/- 22 UTC or a bit earlier.

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App says ETA 14 Jun 2100-23:00 UTC for top 6 boats. about 12 more hours of this 

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Just now, yl75 said:

Tracker crystal ball says 2018.06.14 20:39:12 UTC but the routing stops before the last bit to enter Gothenburg

They rout up to Trubaduren, like me. Add +/- 45 minutes to get to the finish. So an ETA between 21 and 22 UTC seems fair.

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9 minutes ago, Sea Breeze 74 said:

Can any Kiwis smarter than me advise an approx finish time? I have to work tomorrow so can't follow this through blindly to the end! Will happily set my alarm tho ...

I don't expect them to finish before 6am my time, which is 10am your time, or 2200UTC

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6 hours ago, paps49 said:

The Cloggies are coming.

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Bananas?????

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What a leg again, unbelievable, and I love that this battle is decided sailing... sailing at the top of their game, just awesome!

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OBR on DF just said that they can't see Brunel and Mapfre on AIS. I thought the boat-to-boat AIS goes further than those roughly 5 nm ????

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VOR live again

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, stief said:

Bananas?????

In pajamas .

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Have to admit, the Norwegians certainly like their lighthouses.

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Maybe it's because sailing in a North Sea Gale makes that a lee shore.

Anybody know the sea state now along that coast? It's only about 40 nm distant from the fleet.

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Could we perhaps even see the Painters overtake the Spaniards and have 1Brunel 2Akzo 3Mapfre 4 TTOP and 5DongFeng? :ph34r:

I won’t put it in  the calculator yet... don’t want to jinx it. 

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11 minutes ago, Marty6 said:

OBR on DF just said that they can't see Brunel and Mapfre on AIS. I thought the boat-to-boat AIS goes further than those roughly 5 nm ????

It does, range is about 12 miles in a flat calm sea, with the boat completely upright....

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13 minutes ago, albanyguy said:

I don't expect them to finish before 6am my time, which is 10am your time, or 2200UTC

Thanks all. Up at 6am (local) tomorrow anyway so will flush the missus and kid out of bed to watch things unfold. Goodnight ........

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6 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

I just had lunch

What did you have?

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