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LOL....Germany is paying for the Russian pipeline into their country before the invasion....LOL...read a bit of recent history....SMH

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Free trade is a foundation of conservative economic principles.

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So is he saying that Germany is going to invade Russia? Didn't work so well the last time or the other way around?  Add in that trading partners have no incentive to fuck with each other.   If anyone has a Nutter to English translator please help us out. LOL SMH sputter

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Germany can't have a pipeline with Russia, but we can have a pipeline with Canada. GOP Logic.

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The agreement between Germany and Russia for this pipeline breaks lots of EU rules but then EU rules don't apply to Germany. 

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1 hour ago, SailBlueH2O said:

LOL....Germany is paying for the Russian pipeline into their country before the invasion....LOL...read a bit of recent history....SMH

Yep, they can't import enough as it is.  They need that Russian oil titty but nobody wants to believe that.

 

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While Trump's articulation of the issue was as clumsy as anything he ever says, there is indeed a dichotomy in claiming that Russia is the biggest NATO threat while concurrently funding Russia's ability to grow that threat by purchasing energy from them.   They need to figure our which way they want to spin it, and behave consistently IAW that decision. 

 

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Posts 2, 3, and 4 illustrate a level of comprehension of the issue that approximates that of a garden slug.  For your protection you 3 are banned from further discussion until you post a cogent thought.

You’re welcome!

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And yet, here we are importing oil from Venezuela, Mexico, and Canada. Isn't Canada a security risk now? The Canuk's have us by the balls!

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17 minutes ago, bhyde said:

Germany can't have a pipeline with Russia, but we can have a pipeline with Canada. GOP Logic.

Germany can have a pipeline with Russia but we can't have a pipeline with Canada...Liberal logic

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Just now, bhyde said:

And yet, here we are importing oil from Venezuela, Mexico, and Canada. Isn't Canada a security risk now? The Canuk's have us by the balls!

One difference is that we can meet our own needs if necessary.  Importation maintains our reserves.

We are importing about 10% of our energy and could produce more if we wanted to.  A lot of Canadas exports come through the US and sent out of the country.  We could stop that if we wanted to.

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5 minutes ago, Dog said:

Germany can have a pipeline with Russia but we can't have a pipeline with Canada...Liberal logic

Maybe we should get a pipeline with Russia. Then we could just sell the oil to Germany.

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We'd just have to add a leg from the one that runs through Alaska.

1 minute ago, bhyde said:

Maybe we should get a pipeline with Russia. Then we could just sell the oil to Germany.

 

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1 minute ago, bhyde said:

Maybe we should get a pipeline with Russia. Then we could just sell the oil to Germany.

we could run it by palin's house.  she could keep an eye on it

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3 minutes ago, hermetic said:

we could run it by palin's house.  she could keep an eye on it

That would be too far out of the way.

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"Free trade is a foundation of conservative economic principles."

I thought that was mercantilism, it was liberals that suggested free trade.

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12 minutes ago, learningJ24 said:

"Free trade is a foundation of conservative economic principles."

I thought that was mercantilism, it was liberals that suggested free trade.

Mercantilism is actually closer to what Trump is proposing. A nationalistic trade policy:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

 

Mercantilism is a national economic policy that is designed to maximise the trade of a nation and, historically, to maximize the accumulation of gold and silver[citation needed] (as well as crops). Mercantilism was dominant in modernized parts of Europe from the 16th to the 18th centuries[1] before falling into decline, although some commentators argue[2] that it is still practised in the economies of industrializing countries in the form of individual rights.

It promotes government regulation of a nation's economy for the purpose of augmenting state power at the expense of rival national powers. Mercantilism includes a national economic policy aimed at accumulating monetary reserves through a positive balance of trade, especially of finished goods. Historically, such policies frequently led to war and also motivated colonial expansion.[3]

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3 hours ago, SailBlueH2O said:

Got some dumb fucks down hete

yes wii dew

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4 hours ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

While Trump's articulation of the issue was as clumsy as anything he ever says, there is indeed a dichotomy in claiming that Russia is the biggest NATO threat while concurrently funding Russia's ability to grow that threat by purchasing energy from them.   They need to figure our which way they want to spin it, and behave consistently IAW that decision. 

funny that Trump's temper tantrum distracted from Nato meeting with the heads of the Ukraine and Georgia. It's like he's purposefully playing into Russia's hands or something.

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When is Trump is going to visit Croatia...…????

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7 minutes ago, warbird said:

When is Trump is going to visit Croatia...…????

It'll take a couple months for him to find it on the map, hold your breath.

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3 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

It'll take a couple months for him to find it on the map, hold your breath.

Croatian President...See the source imageThis will help him find it...…..

 

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18 minutes ago, warbird said:

When is Trump is going to visit Croatia...…????

He gets loans from Russia. No need to go to Croatia.

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31 minutes ago, warbird said:

Croatian President...See the source imageThis will help him find it...…..

 

congrats on finding fake pictures on the internet warbird.

In an amusing twist, these pictures are of Coco Austin, wife of "cop-killer" fame rapper Ice-T

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1 hour ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

It'll take a couple months for him to find it on the map, hold your breath.

Why?  It's right next door to his in-laws.

 

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2 minutes ago, Saorsa said:

Why?  It's right next door to his in-laws.

The in-laws live in the US thanks to "chain migration". Croatia is not next to the US, moron.

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5 hours ago, Raz'r said:

Mercantilism is actually closer to what Trump is proposing. A nationalistic trade policy:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

 

Mercantilism is a national economic policy that is designed to maximise the trade of a nation and, historically, to maximize the accumulation of gold and silver[citation needed] (as well as crops). Mercantilism was dominant in modernized parts of Europe from the 16th to the 18th centuries[1] before falling into decline, although some commentators argue[2] that it is still practised in the economies of industrializing countries in the form of individual rights.

It promotes government regulation of a nation's economy for the purpose of augmenting state power at the expense of rival national powers. Mercantilism includes a national economic policy aimed at accumulating monetary reserves through a positive balance of trade, especially of finished goods. Historically, such policies frequently led to war and also motivated colonial expansion.[3]

Actually, if you think about it - it is China and to a lesser degree the EU that is practicing mercantilism with the US.  They have very nationalistic economic policies that promote a positive trade balance with the US at our expense since we are a rival national power to them.  

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Those that think a positive trade balance is very important need to go back to school and read a bit more about economics.

Do you think the EU (a bunch of countries with differing goals and ideas) thinks "The US is our national rival"??"

The EU average tariff is about 2% higher than the US on EU goods. It's not huge on either side except for some large ones like the US chicken tax (or Canada's dairy industry for that matter). Overall trade tariffs are quite small.

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10 hours ago, d'ranger said:

So is he saying that Germany is going to invade Russia? Didn't work so well the last time or the other way around? 

 

No, it was the other way around. Under the codename Operation "Barbarossa," Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, in the largest German military operation the War. Roosevelt intervened on the side of Stalin whom he affectionately referred to as "Uncle Joe". Educate yourself!

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7 hours ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

congrats on finding fake pictures on the internet warbird.

In an amusing twist, these pictures are of Coco Austin, wife of "cop-killer" fame rapper Ice-T

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11 hours ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

funny that Trump's temper tantrum distracted from Nato meeting with the heads of the Ukraine and Georgia. It's like he's purposefully playing into Russia's hands or something.

Not sure I'm getting your point - would you mind explaining? 

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"China and to a lesser degree the EU that is practicing mercantilism with the US."

No first world nation ever achieved that status via free trade because protectionism is required to develop the industries. "Free Trade" becomes a national mantra when an economy matures and the 1 percent want to export their capital for higher rewards.  An add-on benefit is that it reduces the probability of world conflict by interconnecting economies.

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9 hours ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

The in-laws live in the US thanks to "chain migration". Croatia is not next to the US, moron.

If the actual journalists were actually more interested in actual NATO and the actual proceedings, they would have reported on them instead of TRUMPeting the obvious.

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7 hours ago, Mickey Rat said:

No, it was the other way around. Under the codename Operation "Barbarossa," Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, in the largest German military operation the War. Roosevelt intervened on the side of Stalin whom he affectionately referred to as "Uncle Joe". Educate yourself!

Uh, thank you Capt Obvious. Now perhaps you could work on your English comprehension skills.  Good luck!

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2 minutes ago, Saorsa said:

If the actual journalists were actually more interested in actual NATO and the actual proceedings, they would have reported on them instead of TRUMPeting the obvious.

If you weren't a stupid fucking troll you would have found people doing such reporting. Instead your lazy old ass sits whining you don't get spoon fed the news you want, like the entitled geriatric toddler you are.

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1 minute ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

If you weren't a stupid fucking troll you would have found people doing such reporting. Instead your lazy old ass sits whining you don't get spoon fed the news you want, like the entitled geriatric toddler you are.

I did find it and read it.  I just didn't bring it up here.

I have previously commented on Russia's slow motion invasion and annexation of Georgia but when there was no response I figured that nobody gave a shit or didn't know what was going on.

I don't know if Trump has commented on it.  If not, I am sure you were entirely unaware of what you should think about it.

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8 hours ago, Saorsa said:

If the actual journalists were actually more interested in actual NATO and the actual proceedings, they would have reported on them instead of TRUMPeting the obvious.

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Perhaps Europe could massive invest in help Iran to expand its oil production capacity in a JV.

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8 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Perhaps Europe could massive invest in help Iran to expand its oil production capacity in a JV.

I would vote for that.  But it would mean another war to take over the smallest country the pipeline needed to go through.

The below story puts a completely different complexion on the shooting down of the Russian Jet and and attempted destabilisation of the Turkey-Russia relationship.  It also makes you think about the purge in the Turkish Military.

The TurkStream (The named Turkish Stream) project was announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin on 1 December 2014, during his state visit to Turkey.[1]

In November 2015, after the Russian Sukhoi Su-24 shootdown, Russia's Economic Development Minister stated that the TurkStream gas pipeline project falls under the restrictive measures against Turkey. Talks on the project were unilaterally suspended by the Russian side.[3] On 5 December 2015, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Turkey terminated the TurkStream project, on the grounds of Russian "non-compliance" with Turkish demands surrounding the project.[4] In late July 2016, following a reconciliation meeting in Moscow, both sides brought the project back on table.[5][6] On 10 October 2016, Russia and Turkey officially signed the intergovernmental agreement in Istanbul, confirming commitment in the execution of the project.[7]

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Germany in particular has had an aggressively mercantilistic foreign policy for many years.

interesting article from about a year ago that makes the point that Germany is more of a challenge re trade than China.  Very timely in light of the recent NATO summit and the  Nord Stream issue.  

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/03/06/the-real-trade-challenge-is-germany-not-china/

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22 hours ago, J28 said:

Germany in particular has had an aggressively mercantilistic foreign policy for many years.

interesting article from about a year ago that makes the point that Germany is more of a challenge re trade than China.  Very timely in light of the recent NATO summit and the  Nord Stream issue.  

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/03/06/the-real-trade-challenge-is-germany-not-china/

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2 hours ago, random said:

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Nicely done

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