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Help with stuck spinnaker pole

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Hi,

My spinnaker pole is stuck in the retracted position and will not release forward... any ideas...  I was able to move the pole aft to inspect the rear bushing... looks like the bushing may need to be sanded down some ... anyone experience a similar problem...

 

Thanks

Tony

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Forgetting to release the tack line before attempting to launch pole is the beginners error on a Magic 25

Some more details of your setup would help

My first guess is the red line is jammed 

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Mine would bind severely at times. Had to use a metal grinder to shave material off the black bushing. Regular sandpaper and even metal file would not do it. That’s assuming it’s not something else. You can remove the cap off the front and push the pole further back to see in from front. 

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19 hours ago, gjbike said:

Mine would bind severely at times. Had to use a metal grinder to shave material off the black bushing. Regular sandpaper and even metal file would not do it. That’s assuming it’s not something else. You can remove the cap off the front and push the pole further back to see in from front. 

Thanks

 

I called the dealer... he's checking with the manufacturer... sounds like they should send us out new bushings

 

Tony

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I am confused....

Is the pole stuck and can't be moved forward past the point that the bush engages the other tube?  (Bush problem)

or

Is it really hard to move in either direction?  (Jammed pole out line, cracked sheave, foot cleat, trailer in the way, tack line still cleated)

 

 

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The first is the issue...   working with the manufacturer.. to get a new slightly smaller bushing.. as soon as I insert it and  get past the 1/4 bevel it binds up

 

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17 hours ago, godspell said:

The first is the issue...   working with the manufacturer.. to get a new slightly smaller bushing.. as soon as I insert it and  get past the 1/4 bevel it binds up

 

So this is a new boat and the pole has never been extended?

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You need some more batten tension, bit of a bubble at the mast end

What sort of boat?

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Just get in there with a grinder with a fibre disc on it and take a bit off. Probably easier than fucking around with the rivets. 

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same issue for me... is that a 23r?

Mine worked great on day 1 but got progressively stiffer until it could barely be launched or retracted even hauling on the tack line hard so forget about the bungee retractor system...

i did  a bunch of stuff... drilled out the rivets on the two aft bearings and tapped the pole for flat head  machine screws to make the thing serviceable, ground down the aft bushing, reamed out the front one. added two Harken micro blocks into the bungee retraction system instead of just running across the ss straps. all good now, but you’d think it should work right from the factory and last for a while before needing a major service.

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The pole on my Fareast28R was stuck from day one.  Spraying dry lube in it works for a while before it binds up again.

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Vaseline? On my smaller sportie, I thorouthly clean the sprit and surrounding bits, the apply a couple of coats of Rejex. Key is how well it retracts. Typically lasts all season, but if it doesn't fully retract, redo and all is fine again.

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If it's been longer than 4 hours, you should seek medical attention.

 

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Tony - PM me.  this is third season for my boat.  Replaced bushing last year, after having problems in the first year.  Then took the original one and had it milled down, so when the replacement froze this year --- last week. I put the old, milled down one back on and works perfectly.  The replacement Fareast bushing from last year, shown in the attached photo, seems show a calcium like buildup/ridge.  It appears to be corrosion or calcium.  Wonder if it is galvanic reaction to the stainless rivets and the aluminum pole, but I"m in fresh water.   Replaced my stainless rivets with 3/16" aluminum rivets, so we will see whether that works. If I could figure out what will dissolve the deposit, I will put that on the pole.  Notice that the deposit on the inside of the bushing also shows near where the fasteners go thru the bushing.  Anyway you look at it, is a pain in the ass to take apart and reassemble, so I hope this time is the charm.  By the way, I'm not sure using a petroleum based lubricant would be helpful.  I understand, that the delrin can swell -- so no KY gel:) 

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Harry

I’m glad you reached out 

nice catching up

you can email to

ajpurchase@embarqmail.com

Tony

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