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3 hours ago, random said:

Looking at the other pics of her sailing, it could have been part of the shoot.  That's their call.

The interesting part is that the editor thinks that posting it is a good thing for ... sailingah female participation in sailing?  the old white guy community.

Shows what he thinks we all are.  Sad thing is he's right.

I blame global warming for women having to wear those inappropriate tiny little bathing suits that show off excessive amounts  ass and b00bs

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On 8/17/2018 at 5:21 PM, RATM said:

She made a choice to put on an outfit that would draw attention to her ass. Mission Accomplished. 

The old ‘she was wearing it, so she deserves it excuse’  

FFS. <_<

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On 8/17/2018 at 8:12 PM, Editor said:

only a douche like you would make a factually incorrect statement. there is no crotch. her crotch is covered in a bikini bottom. oh, the horror...

How are your relationships with women going???

don’t bother answering, we already know. 

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On 8/17/2018 at 10:53 PM, Pokey uh da LBC said:

Take it Down! I like Tits and Ass as much as the next guy, and loved the series of sexy ads posted recently, but that photo crosses the line. Its one thing to post a photo of a scantly clad hottie, but catching a girl in an extremely unfaltering pose, while doing something we all love, is just bullshit. 

Do you think she's gonna be excited to go out sailing again? How about all the other girls and women that read the front page? 

Ed, your an influential guy. Do you think posting this photo will help attract girls to the sport? If you're answer is 'no', then, take it down before any more damage is done.

  

The Ed ceased to be influential years ago......if he ever was. 

Now it’s just click bait. 

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This page would have gotten more hits if this were the scotw!

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SCOTW wanted everyone to know that the boat was righted and all is great!

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14 hours ago, mad said:
  On 8/17/2018 at 12:12 PM, Editor said:

only a douche like you would make a factually incorrect statement. there is no crotch. her crotch is covered in a bikini bottom. oh, the horror...

   -  Then MAD said:

How are your relationships with women going???

don’t bother answering, we already know. 

only a douche who calls himself an "Editor" would not know the meaning of a common English word.

Crotch: In humans, the crotch is the bottom of the pelvis, the region of the body where the legs join the torso, and is often considered to include the groin and genitals. By extension, the crotch of a tree. 

So, no, her crotch is not covered by the bikini, her sphincter and vulva are covered.  For which we (I hope all of us) are glad.  A very large percentage of us also wish that her crotch was covered, and/or that you had the good sense to not post that picture.

 

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Jeez guys, it was her taint that was covered, get your terminology straight.

They finally got some proper hiking shorts on the girl, can we let this go now?

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The prurient mindset of pious prudes is strong in this thread. She's apparently not uncomfortable with what she is wearing, are you uncomfortable with your thoughts? Should you be?

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You are exactly right daddle. The young lady in question is obviously very lovely and seems to be a keen competitor and that photo posted on the FP looks to be taken with a motor drive and that particular image was cherry picked by the Ed or perhaps the Aussie Opti site editor for whatever reason. This image would have far better suited the SCOTW title and this all would have been a non issue. Pious Prudes, that is a great characterisation. PPOTW. (Pious Prude of the Week)

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It's not a matter of prudeness (prudity?), it's a matter of consent. If she's given her consent to publish the photo, no harm, no foul. If she hasn't, the Ed deserves all criticism and any legal liability.

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She looks like she can handle a  little boat though... And seems to be smiling... Should be more of it.

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36 minutes ago, Rasputin22 said:

You are exactly right daddle. The young lady in question is obviously very lovely and seems to be a keen competitor and that photo posted on the FP looks to be taken with a motor drive and that particular image was cherry picked by the Ed or perhaps the Aussie Opti site editor for whatever reason. This image would have far better suited the SCOTW title and this all would have been a non issue. Pious Prudes, that is a great characterisation. PPOTW. (Pious Prude of the Week)

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That is a much more tasteful picture. I like tasteful.

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50 minutes ago, Rasputin22 said:

You are exactly right daddle. The young lady in question is obviously very lovely and seems to be a keen competitor and that photo posted on the FP looks to be taken with a motor drive and that particular image was cherry picked by the Ed or perhaps the Aussie Opti site editor for whatever reason. This image would have far better suited the SCOTW title and this all would have been a non issue. Pious Prudes, that is a great characterisation. PPOTW. (Pious Prude of the Week)

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This photo does more to celebrate Women in sailing than the front page.

There was something just a little bit "off" about the front page image.  If a man preferred the picture on the front page compared to this one, then it says more about the man than the subject of the image. That would be the kind of guy most women hope we were not going to meet on a date.

I hope its okay for young women to look good and wear swimwear when sailing....but if you are judging looks by the cover page..... then score yourself as sad.

Nice swim wear but I wouldnt be caught in that PFD :(   and for chrissakes, sail the boat flat.

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17 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

SCOTW wanted everyone to know that the boat was righted and all is great!

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Bullshit.

 

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This place is what it is. There is nothing unusual about that pic being used on the front page. Whether pics like that grow or shrink the membership here is up for debate, but you don't have to visit here for long to know what the neighborhood is like. That works for some and not for others. There will never be a consensus as to what this site should be- the members are just too diverse for that.  When I was a moderator on a motorcycle site it was clear you had a choice- use a large group of moderators to keep the site clean or have an anything goes approach. We chose to go the heavy handed moderating route and after letting a small  group of members know they were not welcomed it went well. Some of those banned then started an anything goes site that didn't last long due to infighting. This place is has minimal moderating. For some it means freedom of speech and for some it will mean a high noise to info ratio. Either way it is what it is

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On 8/21/2018 at 10:00 AM, gjbike said:

This place is what it is. There is nothing unusual about that pic being used on the front page. Whether pics like that grow or shrink the membership here is up for debate, but you don't have to visit here for long to know what the neighborhood is like. That works for some and not for others. There will never be a consensus as to what this site should be- the members are just too diverse for that.  When I was a moderator on a motorcycle site it was clear you had a choice- use a large group of moderators to keep the site clean or have an anything goes approach. We chose to go the heavy handed moderating route and after letting a small  group of members know they were not welcomed it went well. Some of those banned then started an anything goes site that didn't last long due to infighting. This place is has minimal moderating. For some it means freedom of speech and for some it will mean a high noise to info ratio. Either way it is what it is

I really feel badly for the girl in the photo and feel that this is almost as low as Clean's caption contest for a girl in a school uniform.. I have no issue with photos of pretty girls, but this is just an embarrassing photo of a *sailor* climbing back in the boat. I was 12 years old once and would have been all excited to "OMFG I can see her ass wow you guys come look wow that girl has 2 legs and an ass too OMFG I bet she has boobies too!!!!!!" but then I turned 13 :rolleyes:

There are - as we have now seen - photos of this girl sailing and not climbing around that show her both as quite attractive and a competent sailor. What the hell does any young girl think seeing this and what do her parents think? Hey, go down to the club and learn to sail. Sure it will be hot and you'll be in the water half the time, but don't dare wear a bathing suit or some perv from SA will be waiting to take a photo if you bend over climbing into the boat and looking at your crotch is really the main interest anyone has of you coming to the club.

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Jesus. The mob came out for this one...

Every good looking sailing girl I’ve met, knows it, uses it and still gets every credit for being the badass sailor they are. It’s not like they’re still considered “boat candy”. Since when was it bad taste to acknowledge that some people are attractive? In public no less. It’s not like some peeping Tom snuck into the changing room...

Yeah, some girls like dressing like that, ever been to a pool or water park? Are they expecting privacy?

The photographer likely wanted the action shot. Don’t blame him.

Ed surely covered his ass legally. What the hell more do you want?

Anyone remember this?

But go ahead and rack up your feminist points...

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That photo is NOTHING like the photo of the girl falling off/in the boat and nothing like the other photos of the SAME GIRL.

1. Look at the pretty girl sailing :)

2. Look at her butt while she falls over hehehehe wow we are so edgy :rolleyes:

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6 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said:

That photo is NOTHING like the photo of the girl falling off/in the boat and nothing like the other photos of the SAME GIRL.

1. Look at the pretty girl sailing :)

2. Look at her butt while she falls over hehehehe wow we are so edgy :rolleyes:

You’re right, it is different. She’s even more scantily clad.

What makes it better? The eye contact?

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Because taking photos up between a girl's legs while she is falling over something isn't cool or sexy or edgy, it is 6th grade giggle perv stuff.

Also imagine your daughter seeing that and then you try and send her to the club for junior sailing. She'll probably decide to pass.

The girl on the windsurfer besides for being pretty and nude appears competent and enjoying herself.

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This is not even a difficult question...

you just don't publish a photo of a woman, like that photo, without asking her first.., and if she is a minor, you don't publish it no matter what she says...

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12 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said:

Because taking photos up between a girl's legs while she is falling over something isn't cool ...

So let’s clarify. Your issue is because she’s in the process of capsizing? If she was sailing along with her ass hanging out from hiking, it’s all good? 

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3 minutes ago, OutofOffice said:

So let’s clarify. You’re issue is because she’s in the process of capsizing? If she was sailing along with her ass hanging out from hiking, it’s all good? 

Are you all REALLY this sex starved? Try www.pornhub.com, it seems to have a lot of nude girls.

Can you not get the idea that you can have girl look sexy, expose some (or all) of her body, and also look like sailing is a cool thing for girls to do??????

What if the mainsheet caught your daughter's top and knocked her over and exposed her nipple? Cool for SCOTW?

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Is not the entire classical art of ballet based on this very type of exposure?

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Guys,

    I guess that you didn't see earlier that my curiosity about the origin of the inappropriate for the FP photo led me to the photographers webpage and found that the subject was indeed of age, and the photographer was a rather cute woman herself and had shown the photos and gotten consent to publish the crotch shot. No harm, no foul. There are lots of photos of that regatta race with other girls, women, boys and girls in various states of distress and postures but none as disturbing or titillating depending on your personal predilections. All these posts just plays into the Ed's hands by generating hits and I guess I'm guilty to of that. Just let it go or go find the original webpage yourselves. 

     Hint: Russian collusion to influence our erections...

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10 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said:

Are you all REALLY this sex starved? Try www.pornhub.com, it seems to have a lot of nude girls.

Can you not get the idea that you can have girl look sexy, expose some (or all) of her body, and also look like sailing is a cool thing for girls to do??????

What if the mainsheet caught your daughter's top and knocked her over and exposed her nipple? Cool for SCOTW?

So then the answer to my question is, Yes. Ok. That’s cool. Odd justification, but so be it.

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9 minutes ago, Rasputin22 said:

shown the photos and gotten consent to publish the crotch shot.

There. Now we can stop this nonsense.

Rest assured though guys, your feminist cred is still intact...you came to the defense of an attractive sailor who saw no problem with the photo. Never stop being outraged for others.

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     Not much SailBlue. When I saw how much consternation folks here were making of it I found that it was also posted to an Australian Optimist web page. There they gave the photogs credit and even in Russian Google search and Translate is your friend. Lots of good photos there and the comments from the Russian sailing enthusiasts show some similar concern but they took it more in stride. 

    Spent way less time finding the rest of the story and facts from the source that I've spent reading all the 'holier than thou' outrage here. 

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BTW NippleGate is still in the news cycle 15 years later in the lead up to JT playing an upcoming Super Bowl.

Meanwhile, all over the south of France, women who chose to, are enjoying their summers free of tan lines, and in general, free of a somewhat more intrusive male gaze than deemed socially acceptable.

 Whether or not some reactions might seem a tad puritanical doesnt really clear the editor of acting in poor taste. IMHO

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2 hours ago, kent_island_sailor said:

I really feel badly for the girl in the photo and feel that this is almost as low as Clean's caption contest for a girl in a school uniform.. I have no issue with photos of pretty girls, but this is just an embarrassing photo of a *sailor* climbing back in the boat. I was 12 years old once and would have been all excited to "OMFG I can see her ass wow you guys come look wow that girl has 2 legs and an ass too OMFG I bet she has boobies too!!!!!!" but then I turned 13 :rolleyes:

There are - as we have now seen - photos of this girl sailing and not climbing around that show her both as quite attractive and a competent sailor. What the hell does any young girl think seeing this and what do her parents think? Hey, go down to the club and learn to sail. Sure it will be hot and you'll be in the water half the time, but don't dare wear a bathing suit or some perv from SA will be waiting to take a photo if you bend over climbing into the boat and looking at your crotch is really the main interest anyone has of you coming to the club.

I speak as a woman sailor.  The original photo on the FP does not help the cause for women in sailing , but in all honesty it doesnt really hurt the cause for women in sailing.  It says far more about the minority of men who felt titillated by such a silly shot than it does about women who sail or most men who sail.

We already know that a certain small  proportion of the male population never turned 13.  It is not new news.  Its a shame that the testosterone levels of the editor of the best website of sailing never got in balance but that is not new news either. You dont have to go much further than his facebook page to see that.

What bothers me more and offends much more is some of the images and comments posted on the subsequent forum.  It started as a vigorous  discussion about the images that sailing portrays to women sailors, with strong opinions on both sides. I think both men and women sailors could have chimed in ...but then the usual small minority showed up and the thread  turned just plain offensive. I could give the editor a hall pass for some of his SCOTW images if only he shut down and/or banned the truly offensive images and the internet misogynists. 

So here's the truth about women sailors.  We love the sport as much as the guys.We share a passion for sailing.  In all my years at dinghy parks and yacht club docks and sleeping on damp sails on distance races, i have nothing but good things to say about the real men I have met through sailing.  As a sample population of the male of the species, they are better than average. I have had to knock one or two into shape but generally they are more respectful,  more adventurous and smarter than the average.  Heck I married one of them, and although the poor thing probably doesnt realize it,  20+ years later , he is still the best thing that ever happened to me and vice versa.    

But there is always a small sample of sad smutty men, who wonder why they are good looking but unattractive.  The good news is that you meet less of them at  sailing regattas than fishing competitions!  :)  

 

 

 

 

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On 8/19/2018 at 11:09 AM, GauchoGreg said:

Yeah, keep trying to convince yourself you aren't a most monumental douchey dick.... I'm sure the girl would love to have her crotch highlighted since it has cloth coverint a small area.

As the girl posted above, no girl is going to dig this, and no girl is going to  dig this e-rag pumping this shit on the FP.

Are you hoping chicks are attracted to the illiterate?

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5 hours ago, OutofOffice said:

Jesus. The mob came out for this one...

Every good looking sailing girl I’ve met, knows it, uses it and still gets every credit for being the badass sailor they are. It’s not like they’re still considered “boat candy”. Since when was it bad taste to acknowledge that some people are attractive? In public no less. It’s not like some peeping Tom snuck into the changing room...

Yeah, some girls like dressing like that, ever been to a pool or water park? Are they expecting privacy?

The photographer likely wanted the action shot. Don’t blame him.

Ed surely covered his ass legally. What the hell more do you want?

Anyone remember this?

But go ahead and rack up your feminist points...

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Your well chosen in your login, you’re obviously much better out of the office, than in it. 

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5 hours ago, SailBlueH2O said:

Life was so much simpler in the 60's-70's and early 80's before the PC re education police arrived...that said the photo in discussion was in poor taste on the front page...a thread of it's own no problem.....IMO

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My guess is that this was posed for a photo shoot, as opposed to EDs front page click bait efforts. 

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1 minute ago, mad said:

My guess is that this was posed for a photo shoot, as opposed to EDs front page click bait efforts. 

Perhaps both were photo shoots.

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4 hours ago, OutofOffice said:

So let’s clarify. Your issue is because she’s in the process of capsizing? If she was sailing along with her ass hanging out from hiking, it’s all good? 

Which little trolling sock do you belong to?? 

Tiresome little shit that you are.  

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24 minutes ago, random said:

Perhaps both were photo shoots.

Another conspiracy? 

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10 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Another conspiracy? 

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and taking the pictures. He’s a master of disguise and is only shipped out from DFG for special operations. 

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Meh. She's a gal, and she doesn't have hanging down bits. Not there, at least. Shouldn't be a surprise. The only reason it's an issue... is because someone's making an issue out of it. Otherwise we'd all just move on.

Darn good thing I wasn't born (a good lookin') female. I'd be creating drama all over the place. "If they want something to see, I'll give 'em something to see." I carry that same attitude as a guy, but hardly anyone ever wants something to see from me. The ones that do are kinda creepy, too...

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And another one rolls out of the woodwork. 

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The pictures look more like a photo shoot of someone in a sailboat rather than pictures of someone sailing. She is poised on the rail looking in the boat instead of where she is going. The picture of her on the rail with the hiking stick and sheet is just weird. Like she is not engaged in what she is doing.

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2 hours ago, mad said:

Your well chosen in your login, you’re obviously much better out of the office, than in it. 

So are you capable of making a damn argument or do you just downvote and launch ad hominem attacks. Who’s the troll again? Piss off.

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3 hours ago, mad said:

And another one rolls out of the woodwork. 

Dude... half of us got the same bits, more or less. The other half have different bits, but mostly the same between our half. Some folk get some sort of angst over it, on one end of the spectrum (titillated) or the other (horrified). The rest of us nod, smile, and go on with life. Enough of us have likely been in just as compromising of a situation, but lucky enough not to have been on the business end of a camera with someone interested enough to hit the shutter button. Some weren't as lucky.

Ever heard of a Streisand effect? Best to just let it go and get buried with the rest of the detritus on the Internet. Smile, laugh, and move on. Give 'em something to look at, if it floats your boat, then move on.

"For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow
Forget about your sin
Give the audience a grin
Enjoy it, it's your last chance anyhow"

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On 8/17/2018 at 8:37 AM, USA 5184 said:

Donald Trump himself would find this in poor taste and not post it on his twitter feed.

 

 True. He'd just post it on twitter instead.

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4 hours ago, Proneshooter said:

The pictures look more like a photo shoot of someone in a sailboat rather than pictures of someone sailing. She is poised on the rail looking in the boat instead of where she is going. The picture of her on the rail with the hiking stick and sheet is just weird. Like she is not engaged in what she is doing.

Yep that is exactly what I thought.  No wonder she produced the FP pic, the direction of her attention shows that she cannot sail.  Looks like a shop dummy.  The outfit was selected for a photo op.

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I forgot to point out the bleeding obvious.

There was no breeze on, the boat had made contact with the rounding mark ... and she was cunt up and totally out of control?

Have the old Rich White Cunts been too fascinated by the view to think about how the fuck she could possibly get in that situation?

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22 hours ago, us7070 said:

This is not even a difficult question...

you just don't publish a photo of a woman, like that photo, without asking her first.., and if she is a minor, you don't publish it no matter what she says...

Well, you do publish it if you are a pubescent turd.  As others said, most of us grow out of that crap by the time we are 14-15, and know it is just in poor taste, even for a site like this.  It is nothing like a girl going out in a thong for a staged photo shoot.  It is nothing like posting shots of models wearing nothing, or next to nothing, in a thread about girls.  And it is not just about the girl, but about what it says about the jackass Ed and how those (such as young girls) see what some assholes think of them even when they pretend to care about women in the sport.

But on the other hand, no one should probably let their young boy or girl see this site in the first place...

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On 8/22/2018 at 7:18 PM, SailBlueH2O said:

Life was so much simpler in the 60's-70's and early 80's before the PC re education police arrived...that said the photo in discussion was in poor taste on the front page...a thread of it's own no problem.....IMO

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This was a poster back then in the late 70's.   I had it up on my wall at school.

Ahhh, Teak... booms and mast bases!

- Stumbling

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On 8/23/2018 at 3:30 PM, SailBlueH2O said:

Yep...the photographer was asking her to sail the boat in that position....back in the day I did some sailing background scene for commercials the directors ask for to boat to be in unrealistic sailing configuration to fit their vision of what a sailboat looks like

Summer Rental, John Candy movie filmed in the Tampa Bay area.   Lots of making sailboats do unnatural things per the director.

- Stumbling

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On 8/23/2018 at 7:38 AM, GauchoGreg said:

It is nothing like a girl going out in a thong for a staged photo shoot. 

 

You requested a thong?

 

 

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